i have to confess, most of the voting in this poll is completely bizarre to me. i like that 5ive album but wow that's a high rating.
― lemon dropsy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, I don't know who all voted. I know I didn't, though. (Not out of disrespect for the effort or anything, I just forgot until it was too late.)
― unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I think maybe my poll about them last year raised their profile enough for people to check them out. ILX does have a spacerock division though, but it's not like people only voted 5ive on its own or just with other spacerock type stuff. It obviously must have got votes across the board to place so high.Glenn can tell you how many votes it got along with other stats and the P&J stuff mentioned earlier.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
5ive (12 votes, no #1s) is the highest-ranking album in this poll that didn't even get mentined in P&J.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Shame on Pazz & Jop!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm listening to them now, actually. great stuff! no vocals?
more
― Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
You should check out their other albums.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
check out this dude's review on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hesperus-5ive/dp/B0011F18CW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232731539&sr=8-1
― Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Some more shock high placings to come
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
and the no7 album was my no1 album.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
7http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/9/5/0/195075.jpgEsoteric - The Maniacal Vale (Season of Mist) 183 Points (2 Number One Votes)
What an album! a double cd of the best crushing psychedelic doom/death you are ever likely to hear. Always a favourite band of mine but they REALLY raised the barrier on this. Not only their best album, but album of the year for me. A high point for UK Doom/Metal and quite possibly an album people will be discovering and being blown away by for years to come. If you need to hear one track to be convinced by, check out Circle. Now all we need is the 10LP box set of their entire output as has been promised for a few years now. ILM, check out Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale NOW! ---- pfunkboy
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
You suck, gr80
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Hi Grady!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Esoteric got 10 votes from us, but only 1 in P&J. From this amusingly varied ballot: http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/685977
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone else got anything to say about the Esoteric album?x-post
I'm glad someone else knew about it. A criminally underrated band. It's a shame Kerrang ignores some great bands on it's own doorstep.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Estoeric was another one I downloaded twice, thinking I'd missed something the first time because people kept raving about it. Nope, still did nothing for me. It's not a bad exercise, though. I think I did that with 6 bands this year, and although didn't warm to Esoteric, Krallice or Origin, the second time was what I needed for Evoken and Wetnurse and Septicflesh. Yay, both directly and indirectly, for Rolling Metal!
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I like their first two double-disc sets, but have never made it all the way through anything they've done since. I think it's me, though - they haven't changed much over the years, just gotten better at their basic sound, but I no longer have the time or patience for epic doom.
― unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
i like the psyche/gloom aspect of this ("Circle") a lot; not too sure about the gargling at death's doorstep bit just yet, tho.
― Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I like that esoteric album but it hasn't quite grabbed me yet. I need to give it some more time.
right now metamorphogenesis is still my fave. hearing that and corrupted's llenandose a couple years ago had a pretty big impact on my musical taste... maybe for the worse. ;-)
and maybe they haven't changed all that much over the years... but there aren't really any other bands I know that hit that same psych/doom sweet spot, so I'm somewhat grateful for that. the best of their catalog also is the best of that style, imo.
― original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Esoteric was another one I downloaded twice, thinking I'd missed something the first time because people kept raving about it. Nope, still did nothing for me. It's not a bad exercise, though. I think I did that with 6 bands this year, and although didn't warm to Esoteric, Krallice or Origin, the second time was what I needed for Evoken and Wetnurse and Septicflesh. Yay, both directly and indirectly, for Rolling Metal!
It could just hit you one day in the future. That's happened to me many times over the years, not getting it initially then loads of plays later, something just clicks.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I think vocals do put a lot of people off metal. But the growling stuff you do get used to if it suits the music.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Bands like Khanate would have been silly with clean vocals. It just wouldn't work. I do tend to hate most cookie monster vocals in death metal though. It's not a genre I could ever get into really.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I no longer have the time or patience for epic doom.
Same here. Esoteric's fine, but nothing I'd ever want to revisit.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
6http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/8/8/3/188393.jpgNachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (Century Media) 203 Points (1 Number One Vote)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
11 voters here, 11 in P&J. I don't have anything else to say about this one.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
It's great.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
11 ilxors voted for it, some must have something to say about it!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Apart from it's an awesome piece of psychedelic influenced black metal.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Question: how well did the Dragonforce album do on metal magazines 2008 end of year lists?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the one I dutifully listened to four or five times and . . meh. Is this it?
― Soukesian, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Nachtmystium or Dragonforce?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
The Nachtmystium left me cold as well.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Well I have to say I really love the Nachtmystium, music is great, and unusually for a black metal band, I love the vocals. I dig it.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Yep, Nachtmystium. I know they're the legends of USBM and all, and it's not a bad album, as such, but it didn't seem near as adventurous as it was written up to be.
Actually, it was the hearty spamalot vocals that kind of killed it for me.
― Soukesian, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
the hearty spamalot vocals
Amazing. I might have to rip this off.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Ned Raggett's Spam-a-lot Pi
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
"We're knights of the round circle..."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
"the knights who say Pi"
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway a clue for album no 5?
It's NOT Dragonforce OR Guns N Roses it's....
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.fraterslibertas.com/Images/Separated/pythonits.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Bonnie Prince Billy wasn't nominated
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry, the Python references and the "it's..." made me think of that.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I know
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
5http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/8/9/5/189598.jpgOpeth – Watershed (Roadrunner) 212 Points (1 Number One Album)
Interesting - lots of people (me included) liked it but only one person loved it.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
how many voted for it?
― Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I continue to be of the opinion that Opeth just keeps getting better. The current incarnation of the band is really starting to gel, the keyboards playing a bigger role, Axenrot proving the naysayers wrong, and Akerfeldt's singing voice stronger than ever. Although I will admit that "Porcelain Heart" is the most ordinary Opeth song since the Deliverance album...
― A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Opeth: 13 voters here, 9 in P&J. None of those from me.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
seems strange that it didn't do better P&J wise. did pitchfork diss it or something?
― Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link