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Sorry if this album's been mentioned already. Bought this recently and I must say it's excellent (in most places). It's like Pavement but not quite like them which is definitely a good thing and Malkmus's songwriting seems to have matured even further.

Opinions?

dog latin, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

heard this playing in smallfish the other day. was pretty surprised in that it actually seemed ok. but find it difficult to care about malkmus these days. his best days are long gone (wowee zowee was the last decent pavement record no?)

dog latin? didn't you used to frequent the old warp records message board, before they took it down?

gareth, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yes I did (a bit too often)... who were you on that? They've got a new one up now btw, although the people on there get pretty anal at times. I haven't heard Wowee Zowee properly so Crooked Rain is my fave, but I never saw what was so wrong with the last two Pavement albums even though they get slated quite a lot.

dog latin, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I guess the lack of interest kinda sums up latter day Pavement and the Malkmus album - duller than dull. You'll be able to pick up the album in a bargain bin near you VERY soon.

Dr. C, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

It's a good album. I liked it.

james e l, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

dog latin. i was just me. ie. gareth. but i didn't post very often. new warp board is boring

gareth, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

gareth: yes it is a bit. I was a right pest on the old board and people on the new board still hate me for it even though i don't post that regularly nor do i plug my stuff any more... Someone started an "I hate Dog Latin" thread... what a nice thing to do. Needless to say, i was touched.

dog latin, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Haven't heard the album, but I saw him play to a tiny crowd last month when I was in the States. It was very like the last time I saw Pavement - for the first few songs, you think it's fantastic. What seems like two hours later, you're just thinking "piss off"...

Paul Steeples, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Slanted and Enchanted was too good at the time, personally I've been incapable of listening to anything they did since. Maybe it's was the drummer's influence.

K-reg, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

five years pass...
nobody but me cares, but the website's finally been relaunched.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i care

mizzzell (mizzzell), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Finally. I have been wanting to see a picture of his mustache.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i semi-care.
as long as it's not Pig Lib Pt2 i'll take a listen.

edde (edde), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

edde, if you had your druthers, what kinda record would you like to see SM make next? (no sarcasm/snark intended, this is a serious question)

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

more like the 1st.
and a bit of the 3rd.
i didn't mind that one, so much.
so, i guess optimum SM would be a combo of 1+3.
i'm not so into his prog leanings, which Pig Lib seemed to ooze.
truth be told, i just listened to all of SM's stuff Vs. SS's.
and as much as people moan about PSoI, it's way more consistent
and (to me) interesting than SM's stuff. now, that first SM album
seems like a continuation of Terror Twilight but more light hearted.
and Church On White will always kill me!

edde (edde), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

has anyone waded through the boards to find the available recordings of new material?

mizzzell (mizzzell), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG MALK @ IRVING FRI! WITH JANET!

If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw them last month at bimbos w/ janet on skins... she is like 100 times sweeter than that last putz (obviously) but I think they need to ditch "the other guy" and just be a trio - steve and his two ladies. he doesn't really add anything (other than cowbell) and is a total dork.

at least two of the new songs they played sounded like the doors to me. i can't decide if that's a good thing.

tk (tk), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the new stuff is gonna be harder-hitting, mostly cuz Janet's in the group. There's this fantasy floating around in my head where SM doesn't release anything in 2007 THEN BUSTS OUT IN 2008 WITH A 2XCD 24-SONG MONSTER

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

'pig lib' is still sitting on my cd rack waiting to be downloaded onto i-tunes. i'm angry with it for sucking and it can bask in the unceremonious company of all the other hapless records that didn't make the cut.

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 8 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's turn this thread into a "SM + Jicks Covers Album Wishlist":

1. The Zombies "Time of the Season"
2. Yoko Ono "Walking on Thin Ice"

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

3. Status Quo "Down Down"
4. Ian Dury "Sex and Drugs and Rock'n'Roll"

mizzzell (mizzzell), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Pig Lib fucking owns. You're all mad.

Davey D (Dave Depper), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"Pig Lib fucking owns. You're all mad."

no, sir. i am not. if i'm anything, it's disappointed that someone w/ so much potential. so little returns

edde (edde), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been meaning to go back and track down all of the insane b-sides he put out for Pig Lib. A bunch of covers of obscure British psych rock tunes and stuff.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 9 February 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

idk where 2 put this but i liked this a lot in 2005 and it's still dear 2 me

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6424258467693494613

now stefan malkamus is walking around w/ my face

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

This is a very good and interesting interview!
http://www.cowbellmagazine.com/home/2011/8/1/rule-portlandia.html

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Friday, 5 August 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Good interview but interjections like this remind me why I hate (music) journalism:

In the time of Ke$ha and Katy Perry, in the post-empire era of the music-industrial complex, when radio has become the horse-drawn carriage of the Information Age, songs no longer “mean a lot when songs are bought.”

What does this even mean?

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 August 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

I'm so jealous he's moving to Berlin.

o. nate, Friday, 5 August 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

What does this even mean?

I think he's trying to say that it doesn't matter as much as it used to to get a song on the radio.

o. nate, Friday, 5 August 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

haha

I don't want anybody to get hurt.
I can just see the two factions healing their schism
and coming after you with both barrels blazin.
These headbangers are angry and vindictive.
They've been looking for revenge since '92
and let's face it--
you weren't far from the scene of the crime.

new album sounds good! streaming on the npr today.

tylerw, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the new album sounds really good. I've got the NPR thing streaming the thing in full so I'm not sure of the exact track name I'm on right now, but the guitar workout a couple tracks after "Senator" is awesome.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

this album is kinda crazy. all over the place. some of it sounds like demos to me. liking the alex chilton-y Tune Grief.

mizzell, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

no one is (as i are be) sounds like ode to billie joe.

mizzell, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

so excited to listen to this!

tine nic (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

"gorgeous georgie" is song titles v much in character

tine nic (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

i'm only half-listening to this but this is real clean sounding - the short track lengths and the lightness of his vocals give it this real airy feel. it's all very agreeable, this sounds like the style i want malk to be going for at this stage in his career. i think i'm going to like this

tine nic (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

each song is a jam. another great album. malkmus solo > pavement

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

"fall away" is really nice

mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

"stick figures in love"

mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 August 2011 04:28 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I was just listening to this earlier thinking Fall Away is my favourite song, it's really sweet. The whole album is really enjoyable.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 19 August 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

one of these nights i'll have to listen to this when i haven't been drinking but i'm pretty sure i like this album a good amount

mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 August 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link

there was an ad for the this in spotify telling me to listen to it so i clicked on it and it wasn't available for me to play

markers, Friday, 19 August 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link

this album is already growing on me big time

mizzell, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

there was an ad for the this in spotify telling me to listen to it so i clicked on it and it wasn't available for me to play

Yeah, that happened to me too. The ad's popped up several times a day for the past couple of days, not sure who's to blame for that one, but its annoying to keep getting promised something I can't listen to. Luckily we have the NPR stream for now.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

ok serious lols at that whole mail exchange

you never know what an unsophisticated consumer might think.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah honestly, berman and malkmus need to make another record again.

tylerw, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Just the Jicks drummer, I think.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:00 (four months ago) link

backed by The Joggers (Jake's PDX band before he joined the Jicks)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 25 February 2024 23:56 (four months ago) link

I really hope this means we’re closer to a new Malkmus solo record

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 February 2024 00:06 (four months ago) link

Yeah, hoping the same.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 February 2024 15:11 (four months ago) link

More Traditional Techniques, plz.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 26 February 2024 15:48 (four months ago) link

I wouldn't complain, but since it's been six years now I'm primed for another full on Jicks record too.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 February 2024 15:49 (four months ago) link

SM has not one but 2 albums recorded, it's just a matter of getting them released.

Jicks are probably done. Jake (the 7th and final Jick?) is the only one still actively performing music, albeit with Malkmus.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 26 February 2024 16:10 (four months ago) link

!

a (waterface), Monday, 26 February 2024 17:05 (four months ago) link

is it correct to assume one is a traditional techniques follow-up and one is a more typical malkmus rock album (though i guess without the jicks)

ufo, Monday, 26 February 2024 21:31 (four months ago) link

I had totally missed that about the Jicks being done, that's a bummer.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 February 2024 22:48 (four months ago) link

More Traditional Techniques, plz.


This this this

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:24 (four months ago) link

i vaguely remember something about him working on a follow-up with the band he'd put together to tour it since the tour was cancelled due to covid?

ufo, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 06:15 (four months ago) link

My personal dream album would be SM applying his current songwriting approach backwards to the S&E-era sonic palette. Probably never gonna happen.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:37 (four months ago) link

Traditional Techniques suffered so much from the Covid lockdown, I think they cancelled that whole tour but the band was going to be great for that.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 16:17 (four months ago) link

Traditional Techniques and the Dylan album were my soundtrack to the paranoid first months of Covid.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:04 (four months ago) link

Trad Tech should've been right up my alley but I just couldn't get into it beyond a couple of songs. I should revisit.

That electronic album was terrible.

Proggy rock SM is still my favorite SM. I'd take something like Sparkle Hard in a heartbeat.

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:09 (four months ago) link

^^ Yeah, I like Trad Tech a ton and even Groove Denied, to a lesser degree, but an album with some trademark SM prog swerves would be great.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:00 (four months ago) link

Sparkle Hard was such a relief (could they ever really play like that again?) and remains the best of his late records.

Traditional Techniques has been a slow grower for me, but I love it. And honestly, Groove Denied isn’t among his better records; it’s an interesting side path.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:30 (four months ago) link

I'm still bummed the Trad Tech tour dates never got rescheduled. A "normal" Malkmus album along the lines of Sparkle Hard is what I'd most like to hear now though.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:33 (four months ago) link

Trad Tech = best SM album imo

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:56 (four months ago) link

^^^agree

a (waterface), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:24 (four months ago) link

My people!

(though I like Pig Lib equally).

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:49 (four months ago) link

I'd go top three:

Pig Lib
S/T
Trad Techniques

Groove Denied was abysmal

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:59 (four months ago) link

I like Mirror Traffic and Real Emotional Trash a lot

a (waterface), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:12 (four months ago) link

Even the albums I don’t much like, when I go back they’re better than remembered - it was startling recently to pull out Real Emotional Trash and Wig Out and feel, finally, like I fully *got* those albums. Everything kinda clicked.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:18 (four months ago) link

real emotional trash is the best thing he ever did

ufo, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:29 (four months ago) link

I must try RET again, I thought it was a bit wanky at the time although I thought that about Pig Lib for years too

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:49 (four months ago) link

I think that on some level, when they came out I thought both RET and Wag Out were a bit too silly or goofy, somehow.

I do like jammy Malkmus tho

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:51 (four months ago) link

leaning into the jams is what makes it so great

ufo, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:51 (four months ago) link

it was startling recently to pull out Real Emotional Trash and Wig Out and feel, finally, like I fully *got* those albums. Everything kinda clicked.

that happened to me with Wig Out recently too. I'd always thought of it as a lesser retread of Mirror Traffic, but for now I'd rather listen to that than MT. Sparkle Hard felt like a huge step up from both of them though. The S/T and Pig Lib are probably always going to be my favorites for sentimental reasons, but Sparkle Hard is my non-sentimental favorite.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:56 (four months ago) link

i have not spent enough time with Sparkle Hard, I need to

a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:48 (four months ago) link

real emotional trash is the best thing he ever did

― ufo, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:29 (two days ago) link

totally otm, really feels like the peak of his playing and arranging post-pavement

intheblanks, Thursday, 29 February 2024 14:30 (four months ago) link

I shrugged at RET back when it came out but I pulled it out last night and idk what kind of shit I had in my ears in 2008 because it really is incredible. Pig Lib has always been my favorite and it sounded like that but more

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 1 March 2024 13:09 (four months ago) link

SM@TTTPDX-022424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFc6q0VNU_A

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:17 (four months ago) link

(shredded vocal tonezzz, raw COVID superspread edition)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:20 (four months ago) link

Funny that I was about 15 feet away from that, but there was a standing crowd between the table I was at and the stage, so only listened to it.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 2 March 2024 21:14 (four months ago) link

Thanks, Steve!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 March 2024 21:58 (four months ago) link

Alright which one of you runs the AcidCasualties youtube channel lol.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:01 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhVUME1SC8E

fpsa, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link

There were rumors... SM was staying with Justine & Damon at the time and ~something happened~ and Damon never brought up SM/Pavement's name again in the press ever afterwards.

also iirc Justine was almost a Jick circa 2001 (to replace Heather or Mike?)

[this is olde internet lore culled from mailing lists]

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:12 (one month ago) link

there's a Magnet interview where Bob is more direct about it:

https://magnetmagazine.com/2001/04/01/stephen-malkmus-being-stephen-malkmus/

fpsa, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:26 (one month ago) link

lol @ Bob

95% off-topic but former-Jick Heather wrote an amazing song with her brother and I must share it with you in the event you, dear reader, have never heard it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKMR8vAarYo

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:31 (one month ago) link

Steve Shasta, while watching that video that’s exactly what I was thinking about! (The subtext of a Malkmus/Albarn conversation about shoes)

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:33 (one month ago) link

steve and justine played a lot of ping pong on lollapalooza, according to a don't-you-wish-this-was-salacious-because-their-haircuts-and-coolness-match spin or alternative press article i read at the time. their x cover of unheard music is an interesting study of contrasts, it reminded me at the time of the gainsbourg duets in its "why am i even singing this" lazy dude singing with an earnest yet ultimately unknowable hot chick. a romcom with them and damon - i'd half watch it, i admit. unheard music doesn't really fit into either elastica or pavement's discography, although i think i have it in my mp3 collections as a pavement middle era nonlp track and it adds some pep to the turgid brighten the corners b-sides.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:34 (one month ago) link

I really like the X cover – I think SM says somewhere how Los Angeles is one of his favorite records

The gossip is not that interesting, but I remember this era of music fondly, as it was the beginning of my formative years of listening and reading about music, so I found the clip today and was just remembering about it! (12 year old in BRA reading about this Brighten the Corners import on the music mag of choice)

fpsa, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:01 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Soft launched tease going on in social media space of new super band:

Stephen Malkmus, Matt Sweeney, Emmett Kelly & Jim White

More details to follow?

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 20:51 (two days ago) link

The Malkmus-Sweeney-Kelly-White Axis

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 20:54 (two days ago) link

There was some talk over on the Malkmus POX thread, but this is probably a better place for it.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 21:06 (two days ago) link

🙂

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 21:56 (two days ago) link

Sweeney-Kelly Sleater-Kinney double bill 2025

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 22:27 (two days ago) link


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