R. Kelly busted for teenie pr0n

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Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"I believe I can fly/I believe I can touch the *CENSORED*"

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Next step -- covering Blowfly's "Please Let Me Come In Your Mouth."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i don't quite understand...was he busted for the infamous tape? or for other child porn he had?

jess, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

for manufacture of child porn, it seems from the reuters article.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

which is a way to bust him for having sex with a minor when nobody is particularly up for testifying against him, i think.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

well, thats what i thought, the inevitable dissemination of The Tape, which he was too stupid or arrogant to keep locked away under his bed like a non-superstar pervert.

jess, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You have confused the word "or" with "and".

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

So in retrospect what was The Best of Both Worlds actually referring to?

Tim, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't see why he's even contesting the charges, I mean he MARRIED a bloody 15-year-old as they're all very happy to point out right now - hello, you obviously like 'em young, Mr. Kelly. Jackass. I love that picture of him in the article linked above though. I mean, he looks like he just ate some bad ham & cheese or something.

Ally, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Illinois law prohibits producing or disseminating child pornography or soliciting a minor to participate in sex acts on tape or film.
You mean there is a state where that is legal?

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well, there's always Utah. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This is bullshit reaction. Consent is fucking consent -- filming ppl w/o their knowledge is a different question.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah wow sterl nobody ever expects you to say something like that

ethan, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Consent only counts as consent when given by a competent adult etc etc.

Josh, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ethan: fuck you smartass.

Josh -- aaliyah said it best. age ain't... i.e. maturity doesn't come at the stroke of midnight but differently for different people. besides, two teen can consentually screw but not an adult and a teen, which makes no sense.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

also i said the same sorta stuff about king and boys, so yes it was to be expected. but then nobody expected you would givve a smartass one line remark, huh? where's the meta-character in your controversy game -- the ethan vs. the padgett and the media out to get you?

I'll buy your persecution complex when your mother sues you.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dont get me wrong sterl sometimes i wanna grow up to be chuck eddy too

ethan, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think that if we wanted to actually argue about it rather than throwing around slogans, it might make a great deal more sense. But I don't want to get into that argument now.

For 'adult' read 'person competent to consent'. I don't mean to imply a hard and fast cutoff is best. (Though there may be good reasons for setting such an age in the law.)

Josh, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I wanna hear Sterling's defense of golden showers. And, please, something more thorough than "diffrent strokes for diffrent folks".

J Blount, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

what about golden showers between two consenting 45 year olds. do you throw one in jail or just shrug yr. shoulders at the weird weird world?

josh: the problem here is there's no way to determine what the sitch was since the gal who they claim it is sez it isn't her. Was she competent to consent? Talking to family and friends if not her might help, but they deny it too. & anyway that'll never happen coz the law only treats age.

ethan: sometimes i think you don't wanna grow up at all.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well for what it's worth, I'm in tight with enough vile niggas in the tenderloin teen pimp game--the actual grimy 9th grade turn-out dupe curcuit, not the fur coat shit you shmucks think is camp and funny-- and I've done own my share of minor yet still regrettable teenie stunt exploitation to know that the 'consent is consent' thing is a bunk line......also I went through a body dismorphic phase before high school in which I'd have 'consented' to anything under the sun.....and i know why Sterling is on this deregulate all shit.......I was AIMing with ethan (who i'm not sticking up for, he's pissed me off too) a long time ago and I predicted to him that if the R.K. tape thing ever blew up, Sterling would take it to heart in precisely this fashion.......basically it's another behavior type I'm really good at clocking and I sniffed it off Sterling 2 weeks into ILX......the teencult obsession+(possible) sterile/late youth recasting+lolita/teenieho idealization triad ==> taste/theory/position alignment thing.....no offense bro cuz I do it to everyone.....I mean I knew Jimmy was asian months before anyone told me......I only bring it up now Sterl cuz you're too smart in most other areas for me to show anything but respect, but in this area, I done seen it all and a hundred guys just like you.......i'll explain myself better when I write my ILE movie review.....eventually......

Ramosi, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dude, there's a thread about funk around here somewhere that has your name on it.

jarv, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ramosi - maybe Sterling's just Dutch?

J Blount, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

r: yes ppl. can be abused and used and mistreated & etc. and age can play a role, but so can many other elements of power & what relationship has ever not involved power? the point for me is not that the girl probably wasn't used but also that she maybe got something out of it (was it worth it? maybe before the tape started making the rounds) or went into it thinking she'd get something out or...

So I want to argue here that my position on this has little to do with what I like in art & elsewhere & much to do with other concerns -- like why should the govt. decide what is and isn't healthy and does it EVER help with they do try to?

I don't want to idealize this stuff (golden showers = ew) but I mean you can regulate consent, but who the fuck can regulate the messy ugly world of emotions & expectations.

Also, why R. Kelley and not like every rock band that's had teenage girl groupies like ever? I mean I don't remember a scandal like this since Jerry Lewis & that was only because they got married and thus threw it in everyone's face and ALSO were cousins.

The U.K. was wrong to fuck with him, but read Tosches' book and you'll see that he wasn't a nice guy to Mrs. Myra Lee neither.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Also, did you know I'm asian too?

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And that I think R. Kelly is sexy, not in particular anyone he slept with?

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Jerry Lee was still married to another woman when he married Myra Lee, and compared to how he treated some of his other wives I'd say he was relatively nice to Myra Lee. At least she survived.

Now then, Sterling, where do you stand on Michael Jackson?

J Blount, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

maybe got something out of it (was it worth it? maybe before the tape started making the rounds) or went into it thinking she'd get something out or...

???!!! since when is that relevant? i don't understand you on this one at all sterl?

yea, age is just a number, and you can nitpick about arbitraryness on the actual number, and its different from country to country, but come on! and yeah minors w/ other minors, theres turning a blind eye, but isn't the whole point to protect from predatory adults?

like why should the govt. decide what is and isn't healthy and does it EVER help with they do try to?

like, thats what its there for. yea, leave private lives alone, but when your an adult (whenever *we* decide that begins - yeah, arbitrary i know but...). i'm sick of laissez-faire bullshit, gov should have a role.

gareth, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Sterling, quit playing, kid.......age's role is massive as a general barometer as to knowing your body, knowing what's what, wising up to bullshit.......don't try to 'etc' and shuck it off like it 'may contribute'.......the precocious-lolita-exception-and-you example youre likely thinking of as counterpoint is valid but hella rare and youre focusing on it because it's what youve idealized......in general the age of consent keeps inSANE amounts of kids from getting fucked over by cats like me, it's necessary.......like I told E I was actually offered last year to help my friend turn out little bitches and push high track, because I'm such a natural born exploiter......you can turn out endless 13-16 year olds with ease if you got decent game but after that it's sketchy and noone in the live game really tries it cuz bitches naturally wise up as they age.......I'll stop there cuz I'm about to son you venomously and like I said I respect you.......and I didn't know you were asian.......not like I'm racist but my sister and I have had mad fun messing with brainy 20-something asian dudes fixated on skinny little white things

Ramosi, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Obv. though Sterling there's a difference between acknowledging that a law doesn't reflect the complexities of real life while still thinking the law should be there.

ie. I had sex while underage (three years underage --> I was fifteen) with a guy maybe ten years older. I don't think the guy was behaving badly towards me, I don't regret it, it was fun etc. BUT that doesn't mean that I don't think the law saying it's technically "non-consensual" shouldn't be there (though age of consent should def. be lowered to 16 for homosexuals, obv.). I know too many people who were in similar situations and who were fucked up by the experience. In that sense maybe the guy I had sex with and R Kelly are both stupid and not evil, but robbing a bank can be stupid and not evil too.

(also do not underestimate Ramosi's powers of classification. I should know!)

Tim, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

By the way, i declined teh pimping offer.....haha

Ramosi, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Tim: you had fun, he had fun -- why was he stupid? Also, do you really want big brother to protect you from emotional trauma? Is that even mildly legitimate?

Ramosi -- does the govt. go after the prostitutes or the pimps? I've mainly seen these laws used in rotten ways and selectively. People are either mature enough to fuck up their own lives or they aren't, and the line is different for each person and each situation. I'm not saying that there is no line, but that you can't draw it always and forever without mainly doing bad stuff. Especially in the hands of the foax who now implement it. I don't trust the govt. with the world, why the hell should I trust it with people's bedrooms?

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

does the fact that laws are used badly or selectively invalidate the laws themselves?

why the hell should I trust it with people's bedrooms childrens bedrooms

if the age of consent is arbitrary and useless, what about voting, drinking, smoking, hell why not abolish the lot then? if people are mature enough?

gareth, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Word to gareth......that's some seriously reaching, batshit NAMBLA style reasoning if i ever seen it.....I just lost all faith in this Sterling kid........let me assfuck your kid when she turns 9 and then I'll teach her how to drive a car at 10, she's wise beyond her years.......I said my piece and I don't repeat myself......I'm going to bed before my ethno-classification blades start dripping plasma......you ain't seen shit homie......good night.

Ramosi, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

-Time for some MTV CRIBS jokes?

dek1, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Sterling -> Does it help or hinder your argument that RK's predilections seem to point to the fact that he sleeps with teenage girls *exclusively*?

I say, check his pockets for lollipops.

Mark, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'who the fuck can regulate the messy ugly world of emotions & expectations'

Exactly, which is why they should be done away with. Bodies are just bags of meat and water, some ppl like it fresher than others

dave q, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

thank you, Dennis Cooper.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This is like the world's least surprising thread, ever. What the hell?

Ally, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

look, why can't we say RK is probably a sleezebag AND charging him makes things worse? & where's this 9 -10 yr old logic from ramosi? You sound like a slippery-slope anti-comic book reactionary from the 50s. B-but if not 18, then what... 16, 8, 4, one!?!?! Gimme a break.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

RK probably does prefer teenage girls, but also he videotaped that 33yr old one too remember? I think he sleeps with LOTS of people.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"I sleep with LOTS of people" = best courtroom defense evah

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's up there with his other defense, "It wasn't me." THAT ONLY WORKED IN THE SHAGGY VIDEO YOU DAMNED FOOL. Anyhow, Sterling, not to get involved because secretly I am LAUGHING MY ASS OFF and don't really want to disturb this, but everyone else has a point. Why, yes, obviously, there are different strokes for different folks, and different people mature in different ways, but if there is no standard whatsoever then how do they define crime at all? There are lots of girls who "consent" to sex with much older men who are more "coerced" than "consenting", and that's what the law is for. Is it unfairly used sometimes? Why, yes, of course. But your ranting is just as silly as you seem to think Ramosi's is.

Tracer, check your email, I can't say this comment on the board else I'll get in trubble again :)

Ally, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ally you are very silly.

if r kelly is not imprisoned then there will be no laws and everybody will be in ANARCHY!

So that said, two points: saying that cases are different doesn't mean that they should be given up on, just that there should be something better as a guideline than a birthday.

Second: in the r kelly case it is outrageous because they can't prove anything. They have apparently been "tracking" the case for years (who else EVER is "tracked" for years over this stuff besides certain celebs? Christ they probably tracked him closer than than some of the alleged terrorists [tho he did keep a higher profile]) and NOBODY HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT CONSENT. The settlements were simple on statutory charges. In other words, nobody ever said they were coerced into anything.

At very worst, he lied to 14-16 year old girls to get them in the sack. Which makes him different from most 14-16 year old boys how?

People are bad and lie to other people all the time. Is that what the govt. is there for? To make everyone always tell the truth? Gimme a break.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

At very worst, he lied to 14-16 year old girls to get them in the sack. Which makes him different from most 14-16 year old boys how?

Well, he's 33, for one.... </cheapshot>

Dan Perry, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and one of the most powerful and wealthy entertainers in the world, for two. You are always going to get dogged in that situation. When he's a known freak and eccentric who has a reputation for hookers and young girls and also appears on teenie girls' favorite TV channel every day and does something as stupid as VIDEO himself giving it to a teenie... well you're going to get shunned no matter what your "rights" are. It's too salacious and too easy. But if he was just a normal dude and there was no video, Sterlling arg often prevails, especially if the defense can find a lot of "sleazy" evidence to taint the girl with (often the fact that they're in that situation in the first place seems to be enough)

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and before someone replies with something along the lines of "consensual sex + no public profile + no video = no court case" let me remind you of this little thing called PARENTS.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Tracer I think yr. wrong. You're talking abotu cases of actual rape where the moral character of the girl is called into question -- the disgusting "she was asking for it" defense which should be taken out and shot.

This is a purely statutory case & statutory laws are most often used when there is consent on all sides and therefore they are the ONLY laws which can be used. & further as it is straight age-based and no issues of consent are allowed or permissible, any arguments at all beyond "did they?" and "how old?" rilly matter in court.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

but they can sentence the guy to a) nothing b) community service c) parole d) a little jailtime e) a lot of jailtime, and that all hinges on how predatory the prosec. can paint the picture.

and maybe the guy IS predatory. what about that? even if she says "yes"? if, god forbid, i ever have children, i don't want 20- or 30-somethings convincing my 14 year old to say "yes". is that conservative or reactionary of me?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Fantastic.

Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

(the song parody, not the trial or chinch's comment!)

Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

count me in, very happy about the verdict here.

Jena, Saturday, 14 June 2008 10:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yup.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

still cant believe this shit feelin like dan p up in this

The Reverend, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

still cant believe this shit feelin like dan p up in this

-- The Reverend, Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:35 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

lol lol lol

RabiesAngentleman, Saturday, 14 June 2008 14:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

p

RabiesAngentleman, Saturday, 14 June 2008 14:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

seriously, what the fuck

HI DERE, Saturday, 14 June 2008 14:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

BIRDS MUST NOT BE KEPT IN CAGES

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 14 June 2008 15:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

PISS MUST NOT BE KEPT OFF CHILDREN

HI DERE, Saturday, 14 June 2008 15:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

WOW amazing....don't care if it's offensive but I'm happy, more music from kells

-- chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:35 (Yesterday) Link

I'd probably be leaning toward this reaction a lot more if his current single wasn't as awful as "Hairbraider."

some dude, Saturday, 14 June 2008 15:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://i30.tinypic.com/2sbskf8.jpg

^Best part.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 14 June 2008 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

feelin like dan p = in a mood of r kelly hatred

The Reverend, Saturday, 14 June 2008 16:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is pretty fucked up

deej, Saturday, 14 June 2008 17:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

from an email I received earlier:
"It is my sincere hope that Tim Russert passed from this earth without
the knowledge that R.Kelly had been set free to inflict further pain on
families across this country."

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

further piss

jeff, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

am0n, Thursday, 25 September 2008 03:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

^^ needs samples of R. Kelly saying "real talk" after every line

Darryl Strawberry (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 September 2008 04:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

please somebody do this..... it would make my lifetime

Darryl Strawberry (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 September 2008 04:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Eleventh Amendment goes as follows:
Celebrities are always innocent and no celebrity shall ever go to jail.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 September 2008 08:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

ffs

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 September 2008 08:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd though you said you'll leave ILX, Marcello.

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 September 2008 09:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'll retract that one.

It's difficult to touch anybody when you spend the whole of your life locked in one room.

LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 25 September 2008 09:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 25 September 2008 09:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

[ADMIN: post deleted - over the line]

The Plastic Fork (Pashmina), Thursday, 25 September 2008 11:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Good thing you deleted that post, I hope Marcello realizes this sort of bullshit isn't tolerated on ILX anymore.

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

aw what did i miss :[

am0n, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

"that dude"

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Taking up Flex's point about copping some responsibility, why do you think others (industry, DJs, Jay-Z) were comfortable for so long with him when it wasn't a well-kept secret in the first place? Was it just C.R.E.A.M (and the fact he's not on top anymore)? Was there a sense that his private life was private, or just that he wasn't going much further than the regular sex-with-groupies? How does this case work alongside hip hop masculinity / sexuality? Oh no! I just asked for some undergrad Cult. Studies essay...

paulhw, Thursday, 25 September 2008 23:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

Taking up Flex's point about copping some responsibility, why do you think others (industry, DJs, Jay-Z) were comfortable for so long with him when it wasn't a well-kept secret in the first place? Was it just C.R.E.A.M (and the fact he's not on top anymore)? Was there a sense that his private life was private, or just that he wasn't going much further than the regular sex-with-groupies? How does this case work alongside hip hop masculinity / sexuality? Oh no! I just asked for some undergrad Cult. Studies essay...

― paulhw, Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Also keep in mind that industry types, especially rap industry types, are shady characters. This child porn charge is a stand-out, to be sure, but shootouts among entourages, gun charges, anddrugs all around the industry don't really make for a soapbox that anyone can preach to R Kelly from. Dangling modifier. I'll be tmost of his buddies just thought she was another groupie - a little young, sure, they don't really go for them like that - but a groupie nonetheless. I'll bet a lot of them even didn't know he liked that. Plus I'll bet people like label dealers and his agent are pretty much just all about the money like you said. And he's still making hits, so, shit, everyone wins, except the girl that got peed on.

skygreenleopard, Friday, 26 September 2008 21:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

what experience do you have with "rap industry types" exactly...?

ian, Friday, 26 September 2008 21:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe he's a rapper :)

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 26 September 2008 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

everyone wins, except the girl that got peed on.

Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Probably already been posted but what the hey:

jim, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

When you say teenage, how old we talkin'?

jim, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

thanx i wanted to post that with the flex one but couldn't find it

eman, Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Wtf @ this thread

My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:40 (three years ago) Permalink

very happy about the verdict here

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:57 (three years ago) Permalink

Don't forget about can't pee on u

乒乓, Friday, 20 December 2013 18:12 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...
one month passes...

This remains horrendous.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:24 (three months ago) Permalink

Wtf @ this thread

― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 20, 2013 10:40 AM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dunno about right or wrong but Ilx used to be at least interesting. Now its the same vaginal-male perspective you get literally everywhere else

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:29 (three months ago) Permalink

whut

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:33 (three months ago) Permalink

listen I'm just a regular guy, I put my vagina on one leg at a time like everybody else

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:35 (three months ago) Permalink

also lol @ my shaggs/keef dn not my best work

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:36 (three months ago) Permalink

"Internet liberal" might be a better/less self-consciously aggressive term but it does feel a lot more unified politically than it used to. A lot of positions on issues, it's just taken for granted we all agree, there's less discussion. Not sure I mind really, "discussions" used to get p fractious and unpleasant.

albvivertine, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:38 (three months ago) Permalink

i dunno about right or wrong but Ilx used to be at least interesting. Now its the same vaginal-male perspective you get literally everywhere else

― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 02:29 (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah, for the good old days when people were straight-up underage rape apologists.

Pheeel, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:55 (three months ago) Permalink


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