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is this usually OK to use? looks to have a much better selection than ebay, or does anyone know of any good alternatives?

(sorry if this has been asked before, couldn't find anything when I searched?)

vain_bowers, Monday, 29 December 2008 16:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

discogs imho is in the same league as Gemm and Musicstack--generally a slightly more esoteric selection, but the pitfalls and price-gouging remain the same. (i.e. it's a number of individual sellers and so it's dicey no matter what. I guess that's why there's a feedback system? I've never used discogs.)

ian, Monday, 29 December 2008 17:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

i assume you're looking for vinyl? discogs is usually fine, but i wouldn't buy anything labeled below nm-, unless you've scanned the seller's profile and s/he seems like a saint

unclejam79, Monday, 29 December 2008 17:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah just vinyl and CDs that you can no longer get elsewhere really, thanks for the warning!

vain_bowers, Monday, 29 December 2008 17:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

i started using it a few months ago and have found it to be pretty great in general though i would agree about not buying below mint. out of about 30 purchases i've only had to deal with one person who ripped me off. i now look on discogs before ebay if looking for a record.

stirmonster, Monday, 29 December 2008 18:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

I was able to score a highly OOP release from overseas, and as long as you have PayPal, you're quick, and you're picky about feedback ratings, you should be fine. (same goes with Gemm and the like.)

soyrizo headache (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

via discogs that is. Granted, I've only bought one thing from Discogs marketplace, but it was a simple and quick transaction, especially for overseas.

+1 to discogs: they don't have Gemm's crappy UI (Gemm usually contains these impossibly long forms with checkboxes and radio selection buttons all obfuscated while you're trying to buy or sell through them.)

soyrizo headache (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i buy and sell on discogs. have only had 1 bad experience with a guy who tried to charge me 10 dollars to ship a cd single from Canada.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've shopped quite a bit on Discogs, 30+ purchases or so, and I have been satisfied in all but one. And in that instance I filed a claim through PayPal and got my money back. As long as you use PayPal you should be fine and protected, prices are high though and I don't buy anything under NM-, like everyone else here has said.

san frandisco, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've used it once so far without problem. There are some rare and/or hard to get things on there, but the prices seem a little over the odds a lot of the time.

krakow, Monday, 29 December 2008 22:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

lol last post on thread: http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=musicberlin

Um, someone want to try and explain this to me? Also WRT his feedback rating/comments?

you used to sleep with somebody who avoided a soap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

hahaha. so weird. just 5 seconds ago i sent my friend a link to a record that is also $1540.00. 2 days ago it was $15. something's wacky.

jaxon, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

holy shit, so weird. it's actually the same seller. wtf

jaxon, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

discogs allows you to bulk upload items to your marketplace account for sale via a .csv file. I guess with an inventory of 25000 items this is what that seller does and that their prices got out of whack somehow in the process.

krakow, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

what i cant stand about discogs is the inflexiblity of postage rates. if im ordering one white label 12, theres no way the postage will be £2.75 or £3. very fucking annoying.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

should that weigh less than a non white label?

jaxon, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

xp OK that probably explains that

titchy are you saying that's over the odds? It's not if you consider postage plus if you have to buy a mailer!

you used to sleep with somebody who avoided a soap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

i suppose. but white labels are still cheaper than normal lps.

i do like discogs though, the offers system is good too. some of the prices people put on their records though is ridiculous (and i do wonder if they do end up getting the prices they ask for).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

what i cant stand about discogs is the inflexiblity of postage rates. if im ordering one white label 12, theres no way the postage will be £2.75 or £3. very fucking annoying.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:36 (18 minutes ago)

Postage rates have nothing to do with discogs though, they're entirely up to the individual seller, so I'm not sure what you mean by them being inflexible. You should contact the seller if you think they're charging over the odds.

I happily both send and receive offers on prices via discogs, often the listed price is just a ball park, or best hope, or even a stab in the dark if you're the only person selling an item.

Again, if you think something's over priced then just speak to the seller. No big deal. If they don't like your offer they'll ignore it or let you know. Easy as pie.

krakow, Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

well i mean the indvidual seller obv, yeah.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

I need to get rid of lots of dance vinyl - some desirable, some considerably less so - and ebay seems like a busted flush for this kind of thing: a few tumbleweed auctions surrounded by acres of Buy It Now postings from professional retailers. Has anyone here used it for selling recently? Is it better than ebay now? Does stuff shift fairly quickly or sit around for months?

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 25 January 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I use discogs for buying and selling fairly often. For dance vinyl, I'd say it's def better than ebay. It's really quick and simple to list items, and there are no fees unless your items actually sell, whereas Ebay charges a listing fee. I have some things on discogs that have been sitting for quite a while now, but it all depends on what you have vs. how many others are selling the same item.

one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Monday, 25 January 2010 19:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Best to put them on Discogs a couple bucks below whatever is the cheapest copy if you want to move it immediately. if you're in no hurry, put it at a good price, offer a discount for multiple items in the Comments field and wait.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 25 January 2010 19:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good advice. Thanks. Tbh I'm more interested in offloading most of it than making big £££.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 25 January 2010 20:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

ive put some stuff around the lowest price theyre listed at on discogs but still waiting to shift them. starting to think im possibly the only person buying old grime or dubstep 12s.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

what does it mean when there's a color bar to the side of a release in discogs.

there's yellow, grey and orange here http://www.discogs.com/artist/Rolling+Stones%2C+The

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 22:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

If you hover over them it tells you.

Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 22:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

ah! thank you. i've been searching for hours

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 23:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

So, if one were selling off a few hundred records of the psych / noise / jazz / indie variety, discogs over eBay, for sure? My issue with discogs (and, for CDs, Amazon) is the fact that things sell in spurts, with no deadline. It tends to make packing records and regular trips to the post office a full time job. Any advice?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i always buy on discogs, sell on amazon. i don't want to wait for people to stumble over what i'm trying to unload, and on average, i get really good money from ebay sales.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:33 (six years ago) Permalink

i think the upside (sale price) on ebay is (or can be) higher, but the ease of doing stuff on discogs might be better, depending on how much hassle you're willing to go through

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I find Discogs has rarer stuff in the first place, and then for a more reasonable price than Amazon. If what you're selling is aimed at the collectors market or folks that may not look at Amazon first, Discogs is the way to go.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

it feels good to sell rare-ish things on ebay for +£££s to people who don't know about discogs ;)

jed_, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Coincidentally they just linked to this via their Facebook page:

http://www.discogs.com/blog/339369-top-30-most-expensive-items-sold-by-month

boxedjoy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:40 (six years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Advice on this:

Person contacts me on Discogs about an item that I am not listing for sale, offers me a large (but not obscene) amount for it, then paypals me with his "brother-in-law's" account and wants me to ship it to his sister (he's in Europe). Obviously I'm not going to ship it to anyone other than his brother-in-law (since anything else violates PayPal's Seller TOS) but should I even do that? Is this some sort of crazy elaborate scam to get a CD single? His Discogs rating is fine... but the whole thing seems pretty suspicious.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Obviously I will not accept the payment if I don't ship him anything btw.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

I would just make sure to do delivery confirmation/insurance so he can't say it never arrived and file a claim with Paypal. That's the only scam I could think of if he already paid. Unless he somehow got hold of someone else's Paypal account but that seems far fetched.

Does seem a little suspicious to have done enough business on discogs to have a rating and yet you don't have your own Paypal acct?

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sleeve, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:24 (three years ago) Permalink

hmm discogs is really a good database and have often thought it would be nice to be able to look up different editions of books/comics/movies instead of just doing ebay-searches but not sure if this seems like a greedy move or an enthusiast move, also not sure if such databases/market places already exist

also, any thoughts on whether the new tax policy will be very harmful to the 2nd hand market place? (apparently Discogs will add 25% tax or something for all orders going from US to EU)

niels, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Whoa- what? Really?

Evan, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:04 (three years ago) Permalink

It's VAT that's now payable on *fees* paid by sellers at their local rate if they are in the EU. Fees are 8% of sales prices.

Noel Emits, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:53 (three years ago) Permalink

So it only applies to sellers in the EU and it's nothing to do with where orders are going. I think it works out to no more than around 1.8% on the price of a record in practice. Presumably VAT registered businesses would be able to claim it back as well so no need to pass it on to customers.

Noel Emits, Friday, 17 April 2015 18:56 (three years ago) Permalink

I'll give Discogs credit for hooking me up with a good guy from Norway who had a Neil Young tribute LP I'd been trying to get for eight years (Everybody Knows This Is Norway. It's worth more than I was prepared to pay, so he ripped the CD, put it up on Soulseek, and I got it from him that way.

The other thing I've listed on my want-list is a Velvet Underground tribute that came out in the late '80s. I get an e-mail every few weeks saying one's up for sale, but it's always around 20 pounds, which after conversion and shipping is just way out of my buying range.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 April 2015 01:29 (three years ago) Permalink

It seems to be a good place to buy from. I've only had one negative experience I can think of where a cd arrived shattered because it was sent with neither jewel case or adequate padding.
May have been others but that is the only one came to mind. Think I got a refund but not the cd I wanted.
Discogs is also a reasonably ok resource though it does have gaps. I use it frequently when EACing cds I've bought when they're not in the EAC database. Tends to have tracklisting down for main release version at least.
Gap can be in what releases are listed though.
Would be useful to have reviews of lps and individual release versions too. I think there are some reviews on site but sporadic. There is rateyourmusic I guess. But would be useful.

Stevolende, Saturday, 18 April 2015 07:00 (three years ago) Permalink

I actually appreciate discogs more because of the lack of reviews. Everyone on Rateyourmusic considers themselves geniuses but they're really just a slightly better class of youtube commenter.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 18 April 2015 07:04 (three years ago) Permalink

I had someone buy from me in Argentina but wanted me to ship to his sister in Chile as you are 'not allowed' more than two foreign packages a year or some such.

So I did, and it all went fine.

Mark G, Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:13 (three years ago) Permalink

JUst thinking that it would make it a full resource if people said what they thought of the lp since it could help one work out which lps by an artist were worth getting. also which pressings/releases of which lp.
BUt I guess that most people going to discogs are doing so to buy material they're already aware of. Particularly marketplace.
Just thought if it was done right it could help the experience. But not sure how 'doing it right' would be achieved anyway since I can see what johnny's saying about rateyourmusic being true at least to some extent. Ego/opinion outweighing info etc

Do wonder where you get information on the best sounding versions of things from since it doesn't seem to be fully utilised on RYM and Amazon just mixes all reviews for all releases under a title together.

Stevolende, Saturday, 18 April 2015 15:23 (three years ago) Permalink

Of course anyone can post reviews on there and the entire database is user populated. The process of submitting release data excludes editorialising though, which is as it should or it would never get done and.disagreements would be endless.

I like that the site still feels a bit down-home and ungentrified. Not unlike this place really. My impression is that the staff are still enthusiasts for the most part.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 18 April 2015 15:38 (three years ago) Permalink

discogs are reviews are great, it's either:
a) old school clubbers reminiscing and being crazy hyperbolic about old school house/rave
b) a bunch of people posting "repress please?" or "you gougers should be ashamed or yourself" (hip euro "underground" deep house 12"s on small labels)
c) some person posting "the label on my copy is more periwinkle than violet and 'chuggin gasoline' is about 6 seconds longer than on the original uk chiswick issue"

brimstead, Sunday, 19 April 2015 03:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Need some guidance here. . .

I ordered a CD through the Discogs marketplace and it was set up to have a fixed shipping price, so I was able to just immediately check out through PayPal right then. The amount cleared my PayPal account and a week went by with no communication from the seller. I looked at the order history on my Discogs account and the status was set to "Payment Pending" (which is where it still stands as of right now). I messaged the seller to ask about why it says that and they responded with, "Sorry I'm out of town, blah blah blah." Couple days pass and they respond again saying, "The payment does not show up on my end." I respond with the date it cleared my account and the email address to which it was sent. They respond pretty quickly this time saying, "Oh yeah, I see it now. Sending it out as soon as I can." Couple days go by, they message again saying, "I can't find the disc. Unless you want to wait, I'll just refund you." I respond with, "That's okay. If you can't find it, no big deal, I'll just take a refund." Another two days pass and they respond with, "I'm going to look again. I think I got the disc out when you ordered it and misplaced it. If you get a refund in the next couple days, I couldn't find it."

So now we're ten days from when the payment cleared. First they say they were out of town when the order was placed, then it was pulled out to prepare for mailing and misplaced. I asked for a refund and they respond with a very ambiguous answer. At this point, I don't even want the CD anymore. What should I do?

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 3 August 2018 20:11 (four months ago) Permalink

Dispute it with paypal if you can and leave feedback on discogs

mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 20:12 (four months ago) Permalink

How much was the transaction? If it was less than $20, including postage, I would say just forget about it and accept whatever the eventual outcome is. If it was some kind of expensive rarity, take it up with Discogs.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 3 August 2018 20:14 (four months ago) Permalink

otm

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 August 2018 20:23 (four months ago) Permalink

There's very little Discogs can do unless the seller is not even replying. Yeah, dispute it on PayPal of you used it and want a refund.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Friday, 3 August 2018 20:26 (four months ago) Permalink

I mean, it was around ten dollars. I wish I was at a point where I could just shine that off and say oh well. But that's just not the case.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 3 August 2018 21:29 (four months ago) Permalink

give me your email i'll paypal you $10

brimstead, Friday, 3 August 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Haha, you are the most solid of dudes!

I sent the seller a kind but firm message and they refunded me just now, so all's well. Glad it didn't escalate any further.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 3 August 2018 21:44 (four months ago) Permalink

i have two gripes with discogs: 1) I never seem to get emails from them. I'm not like on there all the time looking at my message box. why don't they send those out via email? or maybe they're getting marked as spam? 2) they won't let you list bootlegs anymore for sale. wtf.

akm, Friday, 3 August 2018 22:43 (four months ago) Permalink

You may need to look into your account settings. Under some settings, they won't email you at all.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 3 August 2018 23:09 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah you can get hella emails from them if you want. I created a list for every single project and appearance by the members of one Australian band, two of whom had an unreleased song covered on an album that also had a cover of Tangled Up In Blue, and discogs email me every goddamn day to tell me about every Bob Dylan pressing that someone adds somewhere in the world.

Dropping bootlegs for sale was annoying when I was trying to turn KLF CDs into orthodontic treatment last year, but "wtf" is surely the least inexplicable "w" ever.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 3 August 2018 23:17 (four months ago) Permalink

I mean they don't email me bcz I switched it off, but ykwim

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 4 August 2018 00:19 (four months ago) Permalink

ah, perhaps that's why. I had several messages in there about things I had listed for sale from months ago that I didn't know about.

akm, Saturday, 4 August 2018 00:36 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i received negative feedback from a seller for leaving them negative feedback without contacting them first. wtf? i appreciate you allowing me to send you back your garbage for a refund but it doesn't make me happy or anything.

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 00:23 (three months ago) Permalink

it's just.. your grading sucks.. and it should be public knowledge

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 00:24 (three months ago) Permalink

Retaliatory feedback is bullshit. I received a record in the mail packaged in wrapping paper. No box, nothing. Like, if somebody gave you a record for your birthday, that's what I got in the mail. It was all jacked up and I immediately left negative feedback and the seller retaliated with "BAD BUYER HAD BUYERS REMORSE DIDN'T WANT RECORD AND TOOK IT OUT ON ME."

I'm still mad about it.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:26 (three months ago) Permalink

you see people list stuff as mint then the description is like "missing disc two" and despair

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 August 2018 02:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Seems like there should be a reporting system for that kind of thing, so it doesn’t have to be handled thru feedback?

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 23 August 2018 02:14 (three months ago) Permalink

you see people list stuff as mint then the description is like "missing disc two" and despair

like, this is fine if they clearly state it? assuming that all the intact parts are mint. someone might have left disc 1 in a friend’s car in 1992 and want a good replacement

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 23 August 2018 02:29 (three months ago) Permalink

no

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 August 2018 02:43 (three months ago) Permalink

the gradings are built-in, the description is the only way to add qualifiers

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 23 August 2018 02:56 (three months ago) Permalink

tends to be best to only call sealed items mint imo, NM w/ a note would probably be fine if you had a missing CD but the remaining one had never been played

still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 23 August 2018 07:27 (three months ago) Permalink

There is a reporting system (there's an arrow next to the listing I think,) but how to grade incomplete items isn't really defined. Mint is really pushing it though. It's kind of a mythical state of perfection even for new complete items.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 23 August 2018 07:42 (three months ago) Permalink

yes yr all correct, I was thinking of the general principle not the specificity of “mint”!

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Re negative feedback: when you bring up the "Leave Feedback" page, it says "Please communicate to try to resolve any problems before leaving feedback." As a seller, I'm grateful for that, as it gives me the chance to resolve a genuine mistake without incurring reputational damage. As a buyer, I do follow this guideline - so if a record is over-graded, I'll message the buyer and suggest a remedy. If the problem is then resolved, I'll then leave positive feedback, but I'll reference the problem in my comments, e.g. "disc was VG+ not NM, but the buyer resolved the problem quickly and amicably".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:20 (three months ago) Permalink

(duh, "the SELLER resolved the problem quickly and amicably")

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:21 (three months ago) Permalink

Nope, sorry, I want to know if a seller overgrades. It should be public. Grading vinyl is not hard! If in doubt, grade down. I'm just done giving these clowns benefit of the doubt. It's happens to me way too often.

What else is feedback there for? Just straight up fraud?? No other negativity allowed?

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 18:43 (three months ago) Permalink

I would never leave negative feedback without first contacting the Seller. I've had several issues with grading and packaging, and in every case they seller has refunded a fair amount.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 23 August 2018 18:53 (three months ago) Permalink

The fact is that site staff can't be expected to mediate disputes sight unseen so all that's asked is that there's a chance to work thing out in case of a mistake made in good faith or a misunderstanding.

It doesn't preclude leaving feedback if you still feel that way, but you do have to contact the seller first.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 23 August 2018 19:14 (three months ago) Permalink

i don't have to do anything.. i just don't like being lied to, or being sold garbage

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:27 (three months ago) Permalink

I would leave negative retaliatory feedback if I received negative feedback from a buyer about item condition / grading without them contacting me to attempt to resolve it / refund / return. Also seems questionable to call out a single instance of overgrading like its a public service for some chronic over-grading problem. It could be a one-off, mistake, human error.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:33 (three months ago) Permalink

here's the thing: the problem isn't resolved when i return something or receive a partial refund (lol, again it's like paying to take someone's garbage from them). it's an inconvenience. a resolution to the "problem" would be for them to send me what i paid for and not making me send their garbage back to them.

just my 11 cents!!!

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:36 (three months ago) Permalink

xp it happens all the time to me, plus these are usually record shops that should really know better

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:36 (three months ago) Permalink

hm yeah if it is record shops that is a bit more suspect.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:45 (three months ago) Permalink

i don't have to do anything.. i just don't like being lied to, or being sold garbage

Of course. But if the seller requests a review there's a very good chance the feedback will be removed if you don't make contact first.

As I said, it doesn't preclude feedback. There's no obligation, it's so that there is a chance of a resolution where possible.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:53 (three months ago) Permalink

this was eBay but i had a guy win a bid for an album and then he completely ghosted, just never paid me. After a couple months i left negative feedback and he left negative feedback for me, saying not only had he paid but he had the record in his possession. like he was trying to "Robert Blake in Lost Highway" me via an Underworld 12".

weird thing is the guy had positive feedback, 100%, a couple hundred transactions' worth. but after that one with me there were a few more left on his page with the same issue. must have lost his mind.

omar little, Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:54 (three months ago) Permalink

Recently I bought a new CD from a shop on eBay that turned out to be a CDr, as well as the digipak being damaged in the post - it did have a tire mark on it but too many people seem to think a padded envelope is adequate.

I wanted to contact them but ended up starting the return process automatically so I guess they just got charged straight away for tracked return post. Not quite my intention initially although I wasn't happy with it, especially as I have the release on Bandcamp anyway.

Not sure if there's a point to this tale.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 23 August 2018 22:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Here's how i break it down

M - doesn't exist but I guess you can use this for new things
NM - the best
VG+ - would be NM apart from a couple minor things
VG - average. There's a wide spectrum of subconditioning within the VG realm. Very dangerous.
G - beat up
F - worthless
P - worthless

brimstead, Thursday, 23 August 2018 23:29 (three months ago) Permalink

If something is missing a disc there is no way in hell it can be mint near mint very good. Maybe good?

Half the media is gone. If I cut the cover in half and throw half of it away, I'm not going to say that the remaining half is mint. That's crazy.

Cow_Art, Friday, 24 August 2018 01:33 (three months ago) Permalink

M - sealed
NM - no marks, no sound issues
VG+ - marks, but no sound issues
VG - sound issues that don't overwhelm
G+ - sound issues that overwhelm
F/P - jumps, sticks, cracked, warp that affects play etc etc

When listing a VG or G+ for sale, I always describe the sound issues in detail. Sometimes a VG will just have a bit of brief, light intro crackle.

mike t-diva, Friday, 24 August 2018 07:31 (three months ago) Permalink

I bought an original UK MC5 "Kick out the jams" recently, it was listed as P. (poor) but I thought hey...

Anyway, yeah it's worn and the sleeve is well worn, but not torn and the LP plays well, bit crackly but hey.. Or indeed ramalama..

Mark G, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:25 (three months ago) Permalink

Anyway, I sell a fair bit on Discogs, most are listed as vg+, I'm not checking every LP and CD

I do check before sending, if I'm in doubt about the condition or the version. I get a few that say no I wanted 'that' version so I refund. Most say they don't mind.

Mark G, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:29 (three months ago) Permalink

Condition is all in the eye of the beholder...

M = "still shrink wrapped"
NM = "if I bought this new in a shop, I would be OK with it"

VG+ = Yeah, owned clearly but no visible damage and a minor LP markings it's seen oxygen.

VG covers a multitude of sins but it depends on the music...

Mark G, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:35 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah I've def taken a punt before on things the seller presumably considered effectively unplayable and found them to be basically OK

still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 August 2018 11:32 (three months ago) Permalink

I play-grade every record I sell, before listing it. Not all the way through, but always at the start of each side (the biggest danger zone), then a few places in the middle, plus if a mark looks significant then I'll play that section as well. With CDs, it's much the same. I'm also rigorous about listing the correct version. It takes longer, but it's helped to keep my feedback at 100% positive, after 1800+ orders in the last two years. Considering how much of my monthly income comes from Discogs sales, that feels like time well spent; even if I dipped to 99.9%, I'd lose out on some orders. (As a buyer, I've had so many over-gradings that I'll now only purchase from 100% sellers, and I suspect many others do the same.)

mike t-diva, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:28 (three months ago) Permalink

I doubt you lose out on some orders, and in truth we'll never know

Mark G, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:37 (three months ago) Permalink

I play-grade every record I sell, before listing it. Not all the way through, but always at the start of each side (the biggest danger zone), then a few places in the middle, plus if a mark looks significant then I'll play that section as well.

Hats off to you! I've been back on a vinyl kick for the past several months, and in addition to hitting up local shops and record shows, I spend a bit of time comparison shopping online. With vinyl being the hot thing right now, I can't begin to tell you how many merchants on Ebay mention something along the lines of "I don't own a record player, so I sight grade only etc."--and not all of 'em are weekend warrior types selling off inherited collections. Would it seriously put them out too much to go pick up at least a Crosley or other, better, entry-level players to spot check for skips and hiss on?

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 August 2018 02:08 (three months ago) Permalink

Can you call a NM album if it has "only been played on a Crossley"?

Mark G, Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:45 (three months ago) Permalink

I think that's an instant P tbh

canary christ (stevie), Monday, 27 August 2018 09:37 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I've been doing a discogs store for the last couple of months as a bit of a lark and a way to extend record collecting as a hobby, and it's been a blast. I'm very, very small scale - just shy of 300 listings, but proud of my 100% positive feedback. Anyway, I get an inquiry from a guy who wants me to listen to 3 of my listed LPs (VG+ all) and tell him if they've got surface noise, with the enticement that if they're quiet enough he's interested in buying a bunch more from me. Because I've got the day off, I listen to all 3 through, report back that these VG+ records have just as many light bits of noise as you'd expect them to... ie, they sound good and within the realm of the condition listed. He writes me back and tells me they're "not clean enough for us". I look him up and he's one of these sellers that go after the Steve Hoffman Red Hot Stampers crowd, and he's looking to turn my $5 MJQ record into a $250 boutique item. Anyway, good riddance.

Aside from that everyone I've sold to has been super cool and excited to get the stuff I send to them. I doubt I'll ever make money off it, but it's a lot of fun.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 24 November 2018 20:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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