― james e l, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Ally, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Geordie Racer, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― alex in nyc, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Nicole, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― AP, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
"7UP! Between Sixth and...BROADWAY!"
It was all downhill when Andy Taylor released "Take It Easy," granted.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
Utter classic band for le Bon's voice alone nevermind the awesome ripoff of Japan's best album (Paul Morley-you iz a twit).
Nick Rhodes - holy idol like Ron Mael.
Andy Taylor - your bar in Whitley Bay iz shit !
― Hungry..., Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
Even Biba Kopf (quite) liked Duran Duran.
― mark s, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Omar, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
In many ways the band that remind me most of Duran now are Radiohead.
The only disappointment is that for a band that began wanting to be Chic they were quite rockist, never producing a genuine disco anthem. Perhaps for that failing not a 100% classic.
― Guy, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Tom, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
For me total dud, especially Le Bon's nasal braying. I can't deny that "Rio" and "Hungry Like.." are good pop, but there's only so much billowy-shirted, fake suntan opulence I can bear. Wham did that so much better - I think because they didn't have (or kept hidden until Georges'solo career) the muso tendencies that puffed-up Duran into such an ugly spectacle.
I do like "Ordinary World" though - great melody.
― Dr. C, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Nicole, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Sterling Clover, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
Hungry Like the Wolf is the best song ever, and not just because I've always been convinced it's about oral sex. The video is just the most fantastic thing - I mean, wtf is going on in it? Why do they seem angry? Why are they chasing that girl, and then why is she chasing them? What's with the war paint? Why flip over a table? It's amazing, and so much better than the way overrated Rio video. I think all videos should look like Hungry Like the Wolf. I'd kill to watch Radiohead run around like that, flipping over tables and chasing war- painted girls in the jungle.
― Ally, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
But all of the early videos were quite brilliant. Wild Boys in particular is so OTT that I would kill to see something near its like today.
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Debbie, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
Both are cute, charming, doomy, arty, angsty, made it big Stateside, owe more to Bowie than they’ll ever admit, surf the wave of current political fads (aspiration & no-logo respectively), make the old feel young.
Why are Radiohead not the new Duran?
Not enough hair products or trips to the make-up counter, no aspiring artist in the band, not enough singles.
― Guy, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Ally, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
CLASSIC for image, as everyone has already said, but DUD for Simon LeBon's voice, which only Dr. C seems to have noticed. (Gosh, what could be worse than the "Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)" cover?)
What does mark's post mean? I do feel like I'm jumping on a bandwagon by saying CLASSIC for image cos I've spent many years trying to distance myself from my childhood infatuations...
― youn, Tuesday, 24 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink
― Ally, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
duran duran = roXoR also
― mark s, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Ally, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Arthur, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― stevo, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― di, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
I dug out the 12" of The Reflex a few days ago and the extended version is called the "Dance Mix". Now it would have to be something like the "Chics For Free mix".
― Mike Ratford, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 June 2003 04:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 20 June 2003 05:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
If not, you are obviously very thick and need to check out some prime swampland real estate I'm about ready to sell to you. Either that or you've just started reading this forum.
― Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 20 June 2003 06:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 20 June 2003 06:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Search & destroy? For me, I'd have to search just about every single Duran song out there, with the possible exceptions of "Shotgun" and "UMF" (off The Wedding Album) and "911 is a Joke" and "I Wanna Take You Higher" (off Thank You). Those four could be destroyed, thank you very much.
― Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 20 June 2003 06:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 20 June 2003 06:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 20 June 2003 07:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Hungry Like The Wolf is about ORAL SEX?!?!?!? Oh my god, I never knew that. Hey, I mean, I was 12 when it came out, it never dawned on my horny prepubescent brain! That makes it somehow ever better!
I think I've told the story about my Durannie friend and her super-indie boyfriend who sneered at Duran. She said "What would you say to a band who wanted to be a cross between the Sex Pistols, Chic and Brian Eno?" And he went "That would be my NEW FAVOURITE BAND EVAH!!!" and she shoved Rio at him and said "meet your new favourite band evah, suckah."
― kate (kate), Friday, 20 June 2003 07:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
And don't forget to search for Arcadia, another fantastic album.
― Tijn, Friday, 20 June 2003 08:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― cameron, Friday, 20 June 2003 09:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Because it was possibly the worst single they ever released! Come on, even at the age of 13 or whatever, I knew that.
New Moon On Monday was actually kinda ace. Yeah. I have the tendency to completely write off Seven and the Ragged Tiger, but it definitely had its moments.
― kate (kate), Friday, 20 June 2003 09:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― dave q, Friday, 20 June 2003 09:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― cameron, Friday, 20 June 2003 09:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― kate (kate), Friday, 20 June 2003 09:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― cameron, Friday, 20 June 2003 09:55 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Oh, and DD are ace, simply for having such an incredible body of work dedicated to their fan fiction. Maybe it's just cause I've only read good DD FF, (thanks, UMF/Lovely Blue Planet Of There) but it's of such a blatantly higher calibre that you think they must be doing something right.
(The one time that a band's fans can be held in their favour)
― kate (kate), Friday, 20 June 2003 10:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Notorious is a great album, I still remember listening to it in my room on Christmas Day 1986 and my dad stopping in the doorway, listening for a sec, and approvingly saying "This is Duran Duran? I thought they were terrible". It was Winter Marches On playing. So from then on I was like "ah, this is their album that adults like" and now, as an adult, I do still quite like it! The first three albums I love in the uncritical way you love stuff from your childhood, but they're also somewhat inaccessible now for that reason. But I can listen to Notorious whenever and dig it.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 October 2018 15:38 (eight months ago) Permalink
still don't get why "Hold Me" wasn't the follow-up to "Notorious."
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2018 15:39 (eight months ago) Permalink
Can someone please explain?
Please please tell you now
― Yah Mo B. Hawkins (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 October 2018 15:46 (eight months ago) Permalink
yeah, Hold Me makes way more sense as a single than Skin Trade! I would have released Meet El Presidente -> Hold Me -> American Science as singles.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 October 2018 15:56 (eight months ago) Permalink
I remember reading an interview with Nick a while back where he was talking about Skin Trade. The band and the label thought it was the huge hit on the album. When the title track slightly under-performed, they weren't worried because they knew they had Skin Trade as the secret weapon. They were shocked when it did so badly. Not sure why they thought Meet El Presidente would turn things around when it came to picking a third single.
― kitchen person, Friday, 12 October 2018 17:01 (eight months ago) Permalink
They even named the tour after a "Skin Trade" lyric: Strange Behavior.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 October 2018 17:44 (eight months ago) Permalink
Wait, what? Underperformed in the UK, maybe. In the United States, it was a massive #2 hit.
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― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:27 (eight months ago) Permalink
Nah, "Skin Trade" only reached #39 US.
I bought the 45 back in '87, so I did my part!
But it's funny you say Y-100 in Miami broke "Ordinary World." I lived in South Florida at the time and remember it was Power 96 that played that song to death.
― Josefa, Friday, 12 October 2018 19:09 (eight months ago) Permalink
Josefa, I meant "Notorious" in case it wasn't clear.
I remember "Ordinary World" on Y-100, which was inching toward all-A/C in late '92 and early '93, but you might be right.
Wow, after all these years, I didn't know your history! A shout-out!
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2018 19:15 (eight months ago) Permalink
Oh sorry, re Notorious.
Yeah, ancient history at this point, but I cherish the memories and still try to make it down there once in a while
― Josefa, Friday, 12 October 2018 19:18 (eight months ago) Permalink
[South Florida content here:] Power 96 of course was the freestyle station back in those days, but occasionally they would latch on to some power ballad they considered meaningful and play it in high rotation. "Winds of Change" by the Scorpions was another one.
― Josefa, Friday, 12 October 2018 19:30 (eight months ago) Permalink
Ah no way, Alfred. "So Red The Rose" is excellent even if bloated.
― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:38 (eight months ago) Permalink
yeah it's second behind Rio based on what I've heard
tt keeps telling me that SATRT is quite good but I'm really scared to hear it. really I'm scared to hear anything that isn't Rio - it's hard to hear a band capable of all-time brilliance cranking out shit
― imago, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:41 (eight months ago) Permalink
side two of SATRG is perfect, the non-single tracks on side one are kinda weak
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:58 (eight months ago) Permalink
"Strange CO-inci-DENCE each time you. look. my way."
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2018 21:03 (eight months ago) Permalink
Never been entirely sure what's so bad about 7&TRT, tbh, but the "uncritical way you love stuff from your childhood" complicates things for me too. (Everything up to Notorious really.) I'm totally digging "Of Crime & Passion" this instant. Can't face "The Reflex" though, admittedly.
Related: is there an obvious reason why "A Matter of Feeling" is seemingly Spotify's favourite Notorious track by a wide margin?
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 12 October 2018 22:06 (eight months ago) Permalink
Because it's a goddamned amazing song, "Nag! Nag! Nag!". (Medazzaland's still my favorite album of all time, just to be predictable.) (Hello again!)
― deethelurker, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:15 (three months ago) Permalink
of all time
― a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2019 18:24 (three months ago) Permalink
I was watching a press conference of Duran Duran circa '84 where American journalists were comparing the band to The Beatles because of the hysteria of the crowds, and the band essentially saying "The Beatles were 20 years ago, it was a moment in history that won't happen again, we're here to make our own history and we have next to nothing in common with them" ... Fantastic. A lot of respect for the band for saying that. Just goes to show that even back then, when music was as exciting as ever, the likes of Jann Wenner were trying to yank rock back into what they liked as teenagers instead of letting it blossom. I only wish every band had the balls to call out The Beatles for being old news.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 7 April 2019 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink
Having said that, Andy Taylor suddenly wanting to be some sort of RAWK GAWD circa '85 was pretty depressing. Check out the footage of Power Station vs. footage of Duran Duran at Live Aid, and it's clear which band he's more into being in.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 7 April 2019 14:01 (two months ago) Permalink
Watched that documentary from last year on BBC4 last week, it was clearly one the band had editorial control over and was consequentially like some kind of terrible EPK
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 7 April 2019 16:04 (two months ago) Permalink
Whatever, the fan base (for whom the documentary was made) adored it unanimously, and it's fairly difficult to achieve unanimity amongst us Duranies. Though I would really highly recommend the other BBC special that debuted at the same time, "A Night In"; "Something You Should Know" was great, but I already knew everything they discussed in the documentary and found myself constantly fact-checking and seeking out anything at all I might not have heard about before. Sometimes it can be difficult being a walking information bank for one specific musical artist, LOL. "A Night In" did teach me a few things and was a lot more casual and conversational and I truly enjoyed watching that, so watch that one if you can!
Anyway, Turrican completely and utterly OTM on EVERYTHING. And Arcadia was the far better side project.
― The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Sunday, 7 April 2019 17:13 (two months ago) Permalink
Also, for any random Googlers who are on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/ddtorockhall
― The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Sunday, 7 April 2019 17:15 (two months ago) Permalink
the fan base (for whom the documentary was made)This seems like an abrogation of duty on the part of the commissioner, then.
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 7 April 2019 22:07 (two months ago) Permalink
Arcadia was the far better side project.
Oh, I completely agree with this! Power Station don't really hold much of an interest for me, but I play that Arcadia album a lot. Given that two thirds of Arcadia were also two thirds of the main members of Duran Duran on Notorious, part of me finds it really difficult to see it as just a mere side project. I would have been more than happy with it being the follow-up to Seven and the Ragged Tiger if circumstances had been different and they'd managed to get John to lay some bass down on it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 8 April 2019 23:53 (two months ago) Permalink
This seems like an abrogation of duty on the part of the commissioner, then.
Pardon me, I meant "for whom the documentary was PRIMARILY made". If the casual viewer wanted a quick primer about the band, they couldn't have asked for a better one. Besides, it sure as hell beats yet another fucking program about The Beatles or whatever else usually gets that kind of programming treatment.
John DID end up getting involved with the "Goodbye is Forever" video, so it might as well have been the closest thing to DD from the Notorious era onward, you're correct. Besides, only one of those side projects managed to snag David Gilmour and it sure wasn't the one fearing Andy "Lawsuit Lover" Taylor on lead guitar.
― The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink
You mean the video for "The Flame."
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink
Pardon me, I meant "for whom the documentary was PRIMARILY made"
foh
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/976x549_b/p03c1nsp.jpg
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:29 (two months ago) Permalink
Ha, I loved the fucking Power Station. They played it on rock radio! Chic! Robert Palmer! I was not much into the DD thing, but the campier they got the more I liked them.
― William Wants a Doll (I M Losted), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 21:24 (two months ago) Permalink
It tickles me that when Robert Palmer bowed out of Power Station, they got Michael Des Barres in! Yeah, the same Michael Des Barres who was one of the founders of Rock Against Drugs was also in the same band as three hardcore drug fiends.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 22:53 (two months ago) Permalink
Wow, who would have expected such a passionate defensive of a documentary which wouldn't have shocked me had the words 'Pear Tree Productions' appeared at the end
But good to know the fan club liked it
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:37 (two months ago) Permalink
lol
those fucking Beatles!
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:53 (two months ago) Permalink
I agree, The Beatles have had their fair share of terminally boring documentaries.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:43 (two months ago) Permalink
I couldn't possibly comment on the Duran Duran one because I haven't seen it.
The Anthology series would have been considerably livened up by a section on Nick Rhodes' polaroids
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 10:32 (two months ago) Permalink
Wat? Pamela Des Barres was in Duran Duran?
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:05 (two months ago) Permalink
Anthology and The Compleat Beatles are the only good ones!
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― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:28 (two months ago) Permalink
I believei n shame!.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 01:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink
wow, never realized American Science wasn't a single... that was an oversight.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 May 2019 01:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink
such awful manners!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink
I would've rather seen "American Science" be a single than "Skin Trade", because as much as I enjoy "Skin Trade" I find "American Science" a far superior song. But the #1 gem of Notorious is absolutely "Hold Me", which is way too good to be a single. In fact, I feel DD excels with their album tracks and b-sides, not their singles (though I will forever defend the great ones such as "The Reflex", "Ordinary World", and "Union of the Snake").
― The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 25 May 2019 21:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink
Notorious isn't my favourite album of theirs, but I think the production on it has held up very well and it sounds to me that Nile spent a lot of time working with Simon on the vocals for that record.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink
"American Science" sounds like a Power Station leftover: the use of horns is what I hate about mid eighties use of horns.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 03:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink
I never thought the Reflex was as good as New Moon on Monday.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 26 May 2019 04:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink
Definitely not
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 May 2019 04:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink
Nah, it's too poppy to have fit with the Power Station ethos, in spite of the brief Andy Taylor rock guitar riff in the song. Also, re: your remark about the "mid eighties use of horns", you're crazy.
Could it be simply that you've never listened to NMOM as much as you've listened to "The Reflex"? Also, while the Nile Rodgers dance remix of "The Reflex" is a little on the cheesy side, the original album mix is pure gold. It's definitely better than NMOM, though not as good as "Union of the Snake", the best single from 7&TRT. BTW, I have very fond associations with that album because my late dad actually sat down with me when I was about 13 - 14 and listened to the album to experience his little girl's favorite musical artist, and had nothing but complimentary things to say about the second half of the album.
― The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Sunday, 26 May 2019 14:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink
you're crazy
well, sure. What do you mean? I dislike the use of horns as a garish sound effect -- they work quite well, on the other hand, on "Notorious."
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 14:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink
I dig the horns throughout the album: title track, "American Science", "Skin Trade". Lot more tasteful than many of their contemporaries, though I kind of dig tacky horns in the right mood too. The production of Notorious comes off less dated than any of their other 80s albums nowadays, I find
― Vinnie, Sunday, 26 May 2019 14:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink
this is a "dated"-free zone, son.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink
Don't get me wrong, Rio still slays Notorious, even if Rio sounds more of its time. Maybe that's a better phrase to use, I didn't mean "dated" to sound too pejorative
― Vinnie, Monday, 27 May 2019 01:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink