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Let's just call this the "sideways r&b thread". We can discuss, post youtubes, whatever. This is what I'm really into right now.

I'll go first.

J*Davey: Spaced out, warped, synth jams with sexy-time female vocals

"Mr. Mister" (Future Screw Remix)

Muhsinah: Sometimes off-kilter, lo-fi, samplebased stuff, usually pretty cheerful

"Construction"

More to come.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:50 (ten years ago) link

whoops, forgot the youtube for "Construction"

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:51 (ten years ago) link

you started this for me rev, didn't you

just cataloged the G&D album

snagged tons of this weekend

will be posting tons on this shortly

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:52 (ten years ago) link

really feelin "mr. mister"

usic soulchild (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:55 (ten years ago) link

G&D = Georgia Ann Muldrow and Dudley Perkins

They did one album with 2tall billed to him, and one w/o billed as G&D.

Both in 2007

DL'd so many of your suggestions today too.

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:56 (ten years ago) link

haha, me & brainwasher have been talking this stuff for a couple hours

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:56 (ten years ago) link

Finally checking out Spacek (waaay behind on this one)

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:56 (ten years ago) link

but I knew you'd be down

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:56 (ten years ago) link

ahhh, all I've heard Spacek-wise is the (mostly instrumental) Black Pocket album. Which is pretty good in a dilla x timbo instrumental jam way

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:57 (ten years ago) link

Steve Spacek guests his vocals on several things in this vein outside of Spacek (the group).

Platinum Pied Pipers should be listed here too.

What other Waajeed should I have other than Triple P???

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:59 (ten years ago) link

Right now, listening to this Swedish group called Little Dragon that Brainwasher just introduced me to. Good so far!

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:59 (ten years ago) link

I don't really know much about Wajeed

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:00 (ten years ago) link

Little Dragon's chick singer was famed for her work with KOOP, which is more loungey or whatever.

I'm going to check more into Waajeed this weekened.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Waajeed
Will report back.

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:02 (ten years ago) link

kinda off topic: this 80s jam was remixed by sa-ra...and the original itself fits into this mold w/o the remix effort

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:04 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of 80s jams, Phonte Coleman of Little Brother/The Foreign Exchange and a producer named Zo! have an awesome EP of 80s covers called Zo! & Tigallo Love the 80's. There cover of "Take On Me":

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:09 (ten years ago) link

Where the Erykah New Amerikka fans out on this thread???

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:12 (ten years ago) link

oh cool, you made the thread! here's some stuff I've been into recently:

M$NEY "Future": sort of janelle monae-ish futuristic house&b about aliens and shit:

Little Dragon "Test" : whole album is crazy, this swedish experimental deconstrted r&b type stuff with very soulful half-japanese vocalist:

Flying Lotus & Andreya Triana "Tea Leaf Dancers" - Flying Lotus' album Los Angeles is getting lots of love, but this song >>>>>> that album, it's the song that really got me into him last year... really spacey, reverby, hazed-out dilla-esque production and equally hazy vocals:

Dudley Perkins & Georgia Anne Muldow:

will come back to thread with more later, but really we need jaxon to come back lol

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:13 (ten years ago) link

and Shafiq Husay'n from Sa-Ra released this really cool instumental EP recently, everyone who loved New Amerykah should check it out:

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/s/shafiqhusay_jankrando_101b.jpg

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:16 (ten years ago) link

damn this thread is some hot fire, keep it up

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:22 (ten years ago) link

Fair amount of overlap here: platinum pied pipers/sa-ra/the new downbeat-rnb thing: why don't i like this stuff more?

Just happened to listen to Spacek's Curvatia for the first time in a while -- it has held up really well.

For out-there Waajeed R&B, the epitome is the Tiombe Lockhart feature "O'Bloody Days, O'Starry Nights on the Bowery" off The War LP.

Has anyone heard the Shafiq instrumentals on Poo-Bah?

haha xp

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:26 (ten years ago) link

Not to get too Dilla on this thread, but he overlaps in places:

Dilla's remix of the first Spacek single back in 2000 should get note
Steve Spacek - Eve (J Dilla Remix)

This was my summer jam!!!Soo off kilter
Lucy Pearl - Without You (Jay Dee Remix)

I'm looking to hearing more from Rozzi Daime. She got a hot song currently on Brownswood Bubblers 3, but no youtube yet.

Her with Sa-Ra in 2007:
Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special

xxp

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:26 (ten years ago) link

Though obviously more of a house record, Moodymann's "Freeki Mutha F cker" (finally out, after all these years) deserves mention here.

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:35 (ten years ago) link

hi dere

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:42 (ten years ago) link

so where's the line between stuff like "zo! and tigallo" and stuff like "the cool kids"

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:43 (ten years ago) link

Cool Kids are a rap group

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:45 (ten years ago) link

(a v. boring rap group)

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:45 (ten years ago) link

if youre talking about the retro-humping aspect in particular, the big problem with Cool Kids isn't the retro thing, it's that they can't rap at all

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:46 (ten years ago) link

Before this thread gets too okayplayer-ish, here's Muffy Cakeopia:

http://a913.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/m_e428452480e5806d011bcfa4649696f8.jpg

Muffy is to Bangladesh as Kelis is to he Neptunes .. she's got cool style, she raps & sings, and has one of the craziest producers behind her... check out "Dope Boi" are retarded:

http://www.myspace.com/muffymommy

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:50 (ten years ago) link

lmao that was supposed to say "the beat switches in 'dope boi' are retarded"

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:51 (ten years ago) link

I was all excited about Spacek's Space Shift when I first got it, then I realized that it was so xx-ed out that it almost doesn't exist. Great in places, just wheezy in others.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:52 (ten years ago) link

Am I weird in that I don't really like much Dilla stuff, but I like almost everything influenced by him? There's something about the way his tracks lurch in particular that I find offputting.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:52 (ten years ago) link

how great is her bio:

Muffy Cupcakeopia is Hip-Pop, Alternative-Glam Sweet! Muffy was born in Detroit to musical parents. Her mother sang with funk pioneer George Clinton, her father played the BASS and the "Real MAn" who raised her plays the piano and was a musical engineer out of Detroit "dats How he met mommy". From birth she was always encouraged to express herself creatively. As a teen she was unexpectedly uprooted and transplanted to Newark, N.J. Without the security of home, she felt she had to be "everything at once." This move spawned the emergence of Muffy Cupcakeopia. Cute. Independent. Sexy. Tough. Determination lead Muffy to Atlanta, GA. It was there in the southern music capital that acclaimed Platinum manager Coach K began guiding her career. He introduced her to Maverick Super-Producer Bangledesh . Together they have produced ironically titled tracks like "Dope Boy" which have nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with swag. Muffy now laughs at the days when she had to sneak and sell candy in school to buy her prom dress. Her quirky fashion is a reflection of her musical influences. Blondie to Beyonce. Bjork to Badu. All of these women represent independence. Her song "Let Em hate" dismisses anyone who isn't "On what I'm on." This attitude actually inspired her to coin the phrase YummyPops to describe her fans or anyone doing whatever they do to the fullest. YummyPops identify with her Uncensored lyrics and Unapologetic sexuality. Even though her mouth is Tart, she is still Sweet.

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:53 (ten years ago) link

Come See da Duck (8:32:05 PM): yeah I think it's gonna be big next yr
Reverend Dollars (8:32:55 PM): the thread or the music?
Come See da Duck (8:32:57 PM): 'cuz I think J*davey will blow up next year and ppl will become more interested
Come See da Duck (8:33:02 PM): both
Reverend Dollars (8:33:43 PM): I don't think most of this has any chance of becoming mainstream, maybe j*davey, just because jack davey is such a persona haha
Reverend Dollars (8:33:59 PM): do they have a major deal?
Come See da Duck (8:34:09 PM): haha yeah she is, and their new stuff is sounding more accesible
Come See da Duck (8:34:12 PM): yeah they do
Come See da Duck (8:34:14 PM): I forget which label
Come See da Duck (8:34:24 PM): but they have some new stuff on their myspace
Reverend Dollars (8:34:57 PM): ahh, will check out
Come See da Duck (8:35:27 PM): the first song that plays "end of the world (mama's back)" is amazing
Reverend Dollars (8:38:08 PM): okay, this
Reverend Dollars (8:38:16 PM): this j*davey song
Reverend Dollars (8:38:56 PM): I dunno, I'm not sure j*davey stand much chance of being bigger than, say, janelle monae
Come See da Duck (8:39:25 PM): I think she's gonna be big too
Come See da Duck (8:39:37 PM): I mean, everyone seems to like her
Come See da Duck (8:39:45 PM): like, even people I know that aren't into underground stuff
Reverend Dollars (8:39:45 PM): maybe they have more of a sex sells going for them than monae does
Come See da Duck (8:40:11 PM): yeah thats possible beacuase Jack Davey is sexy
Reverend Dollars (8:40:25 PM): well, that's what I was trying to say haha
Reverend Dollars (8:41:00 PM): I think Monae is a ws, too, but she doesn't seem as confortable trading on sex appeal as davey does
Come See da Duck (8:41:17 PM): yeah thats true
Come See da Duck (8:41:26 PM): but I mean, she had a Gap ad campaign
Reverend Dollars (8:41:30 PM): did she?
Come See da Duck (8:41:31 PM): so she's not like
Come See da Duck (8:41:35 PM): a fringe artist
Come See da Duck (8:41:36 PM): yeah
sargnt88 (8:41:53 PM): critics love her
Come See da Duck (8:41:53 PM): I think she could definitely blow up
Reverend Dollars (8:42:00 PM): the new stuff on myspace seems a bit more streamlined then their earlier stuff
Come See da Duck (8:42:08 PM): yeah
Come See da Duck (8:42:17 PM): I mean, if Kelis can find an audience
Come See da Duck (8:42:22 PM): then I think J Davey can
Reverend Dollars (8:42:28 PM): good point
Come See da Duck (8:43:31 PM): speaking of, I should post about Muffy in the sideways thread
Come See da Duck (8:43:32 PM): brb
Reverend Dollars (8:43:37 PM): I could see J*Davey or Monae getting Kelis-big, but not achieving actual superstardom
Reverend Dollars (8:43:39 PM): lol muffy
Reverend Dollars (8:44:13 PM): but, a lot of what I like about J*Davey is they're messy

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:54 (ten years ago) link

damn, "Dope Boi" is kinda ridiculous

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:59 (ten years ago) link

still can't believe her name is "Muffy"

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:00 (ten years ago) link

is this the time when i point out AGAIN that a lot of this was prefigured by Common's Electric Circus (largely inspired by Badu and Dilla? and then Shipley clowns me for repeating myself?, because let's just get that out of the way

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:01 (ten years ago) link

or is this the time when I say MUFFY CUPCAKEOPIA CALL ME BOO

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:01 (ten years ago) link

there's a lot other than Electric Circus that prefigures this. (some not even connected to Badu, Dilla or ?uesto) Don't give Com too much credit.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:05 (ten years ago) link

Although I'm tempted to divide a line between Kedar's Neo-Soul, OK Player, Soulquarians, and this, let's PLEASE not turn this thread into a tiresome debate over what the boundaries are.

If we just remain in the center here of what's what, we can continue with the jams for now.

I'm kinda dissappointed in the G&D project, but the 2Tall feat G&D so far isn't bad.

Waiting for Tiombe Lockhart & J*Davey to come in.

Haven't listend, but Steve Spacek's Space Shift came in. Dimension 5ive has given me a slight bit of cynicism about the listen though.

What more should I know about Bangladesh (insert joek here)?

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:22 (ten years ago) link

he produced "A Milli" and "What's Your Fantasy" among other things

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:23 (ten years ago) link

no duh rev but you know i'm partially right darn it

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:32 (ten years ago) link

it's easy to keep going back in time on this, the black avant-garde did not even start with sly stone as you know but a lot of this stuff sounds like dubbed-out remixes of there's a riot goin' on

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:37 (ten years ago) link

I was more talking in regards to the start of this current scene (as I'm sure you were) but lets not get lost in these sort of arguments. Please.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:42 (ten years ago) link

Oh, and why do I have to be the big booster for the Foreign Exchange album?

"Daykeeper"

cover of Stevie Wonder's "If She Breaks Your Heart" (my current last.fm count: 43)

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:44 (ten years ago) link

I got it now rev. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for your rec on this!

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:46 (ten years ago) link

XD

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:47 (ten years ago) link

b-b-but i wasn't trying to...OH FORGET IT, I WILL GO BACK TO MY OLD MAN KIOSK AND LISTEN TO GOMEZ

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:49 (ten years ago) link

I still need to listen to that Foreign Exchange album, I'll try to do it tomorrow.

Anywho, more Swedish weirdness, Kissey Asplund:

http://www.myspace.com/kisseyasplund

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:55 (ten years ago) link

I meant to ask about Kissey Asplund, I heard something or other by her and liked it.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:58 (ten years ago) link

no time in this life for dev hynes

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:36 (five years ago) link

I love chamaray

乒乓, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:39 (five years ago) link

no time in this life for dev hynes

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:36 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:44 (five years ago) link

it's so sterile

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:45 (five years ago) link

What else has dude done? I feel like I've listened to several hours of music that sounds just like this over the last few years, and I can't remember a single damn chorus from any of it

Evan R, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:46 (five years ago) link

He helped do the only good Sky Ferreira track

That's all I know

Most of the album I listened to was boring but I'll rep for champagne coast and chamaray

乒乓, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:49 (five years ago) link

What else has dude done?

ruined solange

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:49 (five years ago) link

I think it's called Chamakay.

I actually quite like a lot of the stuff he's done with female vocalists but Cupid Deluxe was a real bore.

monotony, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:50 (five years ago) link

if Solange likes Kelela so much, she should just make a Fade To Mind-produced record too (or even better, hire another like-minded crew of producers and take the same approach).

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:54 (five years ago) link

(sorry lex)

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:55 (five years ago) link

I have a lot of problems with this whole aesthetic; the biggest is that artists use it as an excuse to disguise thin songwriting. But the one that bothers me the most is the way every artist seems to think its incredibly unique and novel, when in reality the internet is saturated with this stuff

Evan R, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 00:37 (five years ago) link

Dev Hynes did this which is def the best fake Prince song I've heard this year

https://soundcloud.com/luckynumbermusic/friendstheway

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:41 (five years ago) link

if Solange likes Kelela so much, she should just make a Fade To Mind-produced record too (or even better, hire another like-minded crew of producers and take the same approach).

that solange compilation was so boring

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:52 (five years ago) link

haha I came here to post the same thing

Dominique, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:59 (five years ago) link

i didn't listen to it, just saw that it had not one but two tracks from the kelela tape

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:09 (five years ago) link

seems like this would be the thread to post that if u get a chance to see thundercat on this tour go do it, he played a relatively tiny venue here last night and it was so damn magical

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:17 (five years ago) link

I tried to go the other night but it was sold out when I got there :(

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 November 2013 00:43 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Not sure if this belongs here. Was listening to the Diskotopia label releases the past few days, trying to figure out why they're hyped in a way, and this Fujimoto Tetsuro record stood out after a couple of listens. It's nothing remarkable, but hits a sweet spot of like IDM-versioning Rock the Boat-era Aaliyah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u80PUwlfILU

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 13:27 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rzQmVieV60

was kinda nonplussed when I started watching this but really into it by the end?

uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Sunday, 1 June 2014 21:53 (five years ago) link

oh this is brilliant - and yeah, takes a couple of minutes to really get going but thereafter brings the good stuff thick so fkn thick. is the world ready for slow-burning avant-r&b jamz. who cares we are

xelab V¸¸ (imago), Sunday, 1 June 2014 22:46 (five years ago) link

like holy shit - extraordinary. just finished now.

xelab V¸¸ (imago), Sunday, 1 June 2014 22:47 (five years ago) link

is there going to be a pegasus warning album?

Who whom kissed? (imago), Saturday, 7 June 2014 20:35 (five years ago) link

This is pretty sweet imo: https://soundcloud.com/brainfeeder/taylor-mcferrin-decisions-feat

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:38 (five years ago) link

Thinking about seeing Foreign Exchange tonight, anybody seen em live before?

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:44 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

FUCK why didn't I remember to vote Pegasus Warning in the EOYs

Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:19 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

my gf has unearthed the following

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgPyrJTejJs

it's really good

twunty fifteen (imago), Saturday, 7 November 2015 22:29 (three years ago) link

shamir on the late show was interesting

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 November 2015 06:18 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

ok this echelon the seeker ep is incredible, its basic set of sounds is very '80s but they're recombined into these unwieldy rhomboid compositions https://echelontheseeker.bandcamp.com/

accompanying bandcamp interview https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/02/21/echelon-the-seeker-interview/

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:05 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Sevdaliza's (rather extraordinary) album ISON, released a few weeks ago, seems like it belongs here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znV9KDsNtXY

monotony, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 04:48 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

holy shit harriet brown

loads of you have surely freaked upon hearing this?

imago, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 10:20 (two years ago) link

well here you go anyway https://harrietbrown.bandcamp.com/album/contact

imago, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 10:22 (two years ago) link

hmmmmm

In L.A.'s revivified funk scene, the 26-year-old Bay Area native is emerging as a potential torchbearer. On his debut full-length, Contact, Brown triangulates early Prince, a grown, sexy Janet Jackson and Mr. Contact himself—Carl Sagan, if you're nasty—connecting the corporeal, the spiritual and the extraterrestrial through vintage synths, bangin' drum machines and the occasional ripping guitar solo. And he does it while rocking a look best described as Lloyd Christmas-meets-new jack swing.

http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/07/05/harriet-brown-is-the-l-a-funk-scenes-new-resident-alien/

curmudgeon, Friday, 7 July 2017 18:45 (two years ago) link

Wow, can't believe how much he sounds like Prince vocally.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:10 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

enjoying the MHYSA record from the quietus' year-end

imago, Monday, 4 December 2017 13:14 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

oh my god L'Rain

oh my god

this album is like a sort of sad amazing dream

#TeamHailing (imago), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:02 (one year ago) link

i'd post like 5 pages of trademark imago hype but rly i shdnt need to, just listen to it

#TeamHailing (imago), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:03 (one year ago) link

listening to the new DoNormaal album again too, it's rly great

#TeamHailing (imago), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:48 (one year ago) link

i really like both donormaal records

ogmor, Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

Sad amazing dream otm, L'Rain is great. We can send it up the EOY poll.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:30 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja6cuCfML98

the late great, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:19 (ten months ago) link

was only able to find one mention of DAVON BRYANT aka DREAMCAST on ILM (buried in a dj mix)

he is really good

the late great, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:21 (ten months ago) link

yes he is, "Floral Place" is also lovely

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 07:24 (ten months ago) link

that is one fabulous 7"

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:31 (ten months ago) link

dreamcast only has the two 7"s out, right?

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:16 (ten months ago) link

three 7”s and an LP

all available at earcave

the late great, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:20 (ten months ago) link

eight months pass...

the new Jai Paul release has shot straight to the top of the RYM 2019 chart. listening now I can't really hear what's so special and his stop-start production trick got stale very quickly but...why does RYM love it so much?

obviously ilx hates him, or at least did back when the lex posted

imago, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:17 (one month ago) link

it's not exactly new since it first leaked 6 years ago but i haven't really given it much thought since then. i think it's just the whole cult of mystery thing - him releasing two promising and distinctive (though still fairly overrated) demos before all these other demos leaked and he disappeared for ages. it seems like a shame they did leak because hearing more polished versions of some of those songs would have been cool, instead of what happened which is that the leak freaked him out and frustrated him enough to not release anything until now. skimming through the 'album' again i still really like 'str8 outta mumbai' and some of the rest shows some promise but it's not too special and i don't get why people are so enamoured with it.

ufo, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:50 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

anyone here listen to black grapefruit? think they fit this thread and are also pretty wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOOBRAcV99c

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 16:16 (three weeks ago) link

They fit the thread, but that’s kinda the problem. They’re not doing much new with this approach. Not bad . Just ok imho

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:44 (three weeks ago) link

Maybe you don’t always have to do something “new,” but there’s something missing from the Black Grapefruit song that keeps me from being wowed.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:47 (three weeks ago) link


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