Remain In Light, Side 2

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"...through the years, by keeping an ideal facial structure fixed in his mind, or somewhere in the back of his mind, that he might, by force of will, cause his face to approach those of his ideal. the change would be very subtle. it might take ten years or so."

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Houses in Motion 26
Listening Wind 15
Seen And Not Seen 8
The Overload 8


as a dude (goole), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 06:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

The Overload for me.

Alt Poll, Remain In Light - Side 2 vs Closer - Side 2

MaresNest, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't know the names of any of the songs. It just seems like one long... movement to me.

...it's all just a learning curve (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Listening Wind". Luvvit luvvit luvvit.

Tim F, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Seen & Not Seen, easy

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Do you think the story that they wrote The Overload based solely on what they had read about Joy Division in the british music press is apophrical? Seems a little far fetched to me, considering the results.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

"listening wind". i know it's regarded as a bit pretentious, but I love the eerie vocal harmonies and the "Wind in my heeeaaarrrt" bits (or whatever they're singing). Great Eno-y noises too.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Overload sounds so similar to Joy Division, I'd have been very surprised if TH hadn't heard them before, come on.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

THE WIND IN MY HEAAAAAAART

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

THE DUST IN MY HAAAAAAAND

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

COME TO DRIVE THEM AWAAAAAAY

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Overload really does sound like JD pastiche. They even perfectly captured that stuck-in-a-dark-warehouse-in-winter atmosphere.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

listening wind. by a trillion miles. seemed terribly adventurous as a lyric when i first heard it in about 2003, thanks to ILX come to think of it. gary mullholland has this to say about it in his book FEAR OF MUSIC:
"this is so far away from either punk or agit-pop it may as well have been beamed down from a distant planet. it wants to explain rather than berate and it does so with unlikely sweetness"
amen.

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

I really started to appreciate "Houses in Motion" after hearing the version on The Name of This Band Is....

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 13:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can't believe more people aren't repping for "Houses in Motion" - that's the hook, man

J0hn D., Tuesday, 2 December 2008 13:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

one the first records i ever bought was the 'Once In A Lifetime' 7", with 'Seen And Not Seen' on the other side. not having many records i played that b-side hundreds of times at an early age, so at this stage its embedded in my DNA or something. has no one ever looped up the start for a hip hop record?

zappi, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

SEEN & NOT SEEN

Turangalila, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Seen & Not Seen

Love the atmosphere that song creates, and side 2 of Remain In Light is all about atmosphere.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Gotta go with "Houses in Motion," in large part because I'm gonna be stuck with it as an earworm for the rest of the day, now that it's been invoked.

DLee, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

houses in motion for sure.

cutty, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

does anyone know whose decision it was to put all the uptempo songs on one side and the slow moody ones on the other?

as a dude (goole), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

that was my idea

J0hn D., Tuesday, 2 December 2008 15:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Houses in Motion is uptempo

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 15:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ooh so we're getting a sudden "Houses in Motion" resurgence here.

I wrote something about the second side once.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

the beginning of houses in motion is begging to be sampled

cutty, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

my mistake, seen and not seen is the song i would sample for my balearic edit 12"

cutty, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 16:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait, why is "Once in a Lifetime" not one of the poll options?

WmC, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Haha -- I didn't even notice its absence!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol whoops

yeah i just checked wiki and lo and behold OIAL isn't on the first side as i'd assumed. it was these four tracks i wanted to poll anyway.

i really can't decide. adrian belew, tho, damn.

as a dude (goole), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

That asymmetry, 3 and 5 instead of 4 and 4, is one of the things I always liked about the LP.

WmC, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

The final track on the album, "The Overload", was Talking Heads' attempt to emulate the sound of the band Joy Division. This effort was made in spite of the fact that no one in the band had actually heard the music of Joy Division. Rather, it was based on an idea of what Joy Division might sound like. [1]

you crazy kids

as a dude (goole), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol hey looks like someone went to art school

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

fyi my parents smoke p-o-t w/ tina n chris a few times in the 70s

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

"In this album was sewn the seeds of what would later become Ziggy Marley and the Melody Makers."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nice writing, Alfred.

"Does anyone listen to Remain in Light past "Once in a Lifetime"? I've heard "Houses in Motion" get some love, but no one (including me) has claimed much for the three dirges with which the album concludes."

This is one of my ten or so favorite albums of all time, and one of the best sequenced, and I ALWAYS play it in its entirety. Love all three dirges, voted "Listening Wind."

Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 17:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

i had a stoned theory once that each track on this album was slower than the one before it, so it's the like the whole album slowly grinds to a halt by the end. er...it's not true.

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 22:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ha! Back in the height of my stoner days I came to that very same conclusion. I don't think I've listened to it in full since then to discover its lack of veracity.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 22:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hard one.

I remember Xgau commenting on the second side evoking John Cale somehow. Not sure I ever heard it that way myself, given that the closest (Music for a New Society) didn't come out until after this.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, "Listening Wind" conjures the same gently accumulating menace of, say, Cale's "Guts," only it's never funny, and if it is, it'll be grisly (the bomb might explode, and Mojique's arm winds up in a baobab tree).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Houses in Motion." I love the dry, slinky, off-center funk, plus it was my first exposure to Jon Hassell.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

I remember Xgau commenting on the second side evoking John Cale somehow.

If he was thinking specifically about "Listening Wind" and "Venus in Furs" (esp the viola drone), I can see it.

WmC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Or hear it, rather.

WmC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

houses in motion. the album really falls off after that imo

Matt P, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 8 December 2008 00:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

i always thought that "the overload" sounded more like pink floyd than joy division (though i also hear the joy division influence too).

Eisbär (Eisbaer), Monday, 8 December 2008 00:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is so tough, one of my favorite albums ever. i'd probably have to go with the overload just cause i think it epitomizes the vibe of side 2

vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Monday, 8 December 2008 00:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HANDS!!

baaderonixx, Monday, 8 December 2008 08:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

"listening wind" is my favourite of these but tbh i don't like any of these nearly as much as any of the first four tracks. it will be some rong madness if "the overload" wins though.

aaron d.g., Monday, 8 December 2008 10:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

'listening wind' is my fave track on the album, and is generally the only section where i really sit up and start to take notice. the other tracks, up to that point, tend to zip by for me (albeit in a very assured, well-sequenced manner)

Charlie Howard, Monday, 8 December 2008 13:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Houses in Motion needs more love. I watched last nigh that live perf included on the deluxe bonus DVD. So awesome

baaderonixx, Monday, 8 December 2008 13:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Houses in Motion

Joe, Monday, 8 December 2008 20:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Houses in Motion" for me too

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

no way overload is gonna win, fule (xxxxpost), but some tru headz are gonna vote for it, no pun intended

vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

One of the few polls whose results please me.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

for some reason I am always surprised when I go back to this album and realize it was from 1980. It sounds like it came from several years later.

strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

I had a stoner theory that each song gets faster than the one before. But I must have been reeeaally stonered.

big darn deal (Z S), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

goddamn the bass sounds in Houses in Motion so awesome

strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is one of those records where I'd love a multi-disc "sessions" kinda box set, like the Miles Davis releases. So many layers and sounds to uncover.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

what the fuck at "Seen And Not Seen" losing?

Udon Nomi (Stevie D), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

It really is remarkable how they nailed Joy Division's sound on "The Overload" without ever having heard their music.

flappy bird, Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:08 (four months ago) Permalink

i never believe that story. it can't be true

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 30 July 2018 00:01 (four months ago) Permalink

also it's one of my least favourite songs by them. appreciate the fact it exists but not into the dark atmospheric Heads so much as the funkier stuff

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 30 July 2018 00:02 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah I mean they started recording Remain in Light a full year after Unknown Pleasures came out, and I can't imagine Eno would've had any trouble getting a copy. Still. this legend I hold onto. it's such a good story!

flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 00:31 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah dog latin otm - i skip that song every time

angelique LP of this is on fire as well

Ross, Monday, 30 July 2018 15:49 (four months ago) Permalink

I love the way Byrne trembles through the line, "in the free trade zone"

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2018 15:50 (four months ago) Permalink

I love the way this record is sequenced, the way it just slowly grinds to a halt

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 04:40 (four months ago) Permalink

yes

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 04:59 (four months ago) Permalink

thirded

transcendental headache (Ross), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:12 (four months ago) Permalink

the version of "Houses in Motion" on The Name of this band is Talking Heads is so much funkier and livelier that I almost can't believe it's the same song

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:23 (four months ago) Permalink

oh yeah, the live Houses in Motion is one of the very best Talking Heads songs.

Might be hard to find a Heads song where the live version isn't better than the studio tbh

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Once in a Lifetime and Great Curve never came off too great live IMO. I mean they still rule but the studio recordings are perfect.

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:46 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah i've never felt like "once in a lifetime" comes across right in a live setting for some reason — the chorus doesn't have the same lift

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:59 (four months ago) Permalink

wearing shoes with no socks

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 22:05 (four months ago) Permalink

I love "The Overload." And I never really 'got' Joy Division. But I 'get' The Melvins and this song is as close as Byrne ever got to Buzz (which is, admittedly, not very close, but that drone that runs throughout is some straight up Lysol shit)

hey, did Eno ever cop to "I Fall Up" being, err, inspired by "Houses in Motion?" Seems obvious to me but I'm no Eno scholar, and, lord knows, if anyone has the right to borrow ideas from TH it's Eno (and Hassell)

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 22:16 (four months ago) Permalink

the wind in my heart, the dust in my head <3 <3 all time ultra humid groove

brimstead, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 23:38 (four months ago) Permalink

For the first four songs this is the greatest album ever made! Pity about the slower dirgey ones.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 00:07 (four months ago) Permalink

xp "Great Curve" was excellent live when I saw Byrne ten years ago, but I agree I haven't heard a live version of "Once in a Lifetime" that matches the studio version

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:07 (four months ago) Permalink

otm and “Born Under Punches” too imo, perfect studio creations. “Crosseyed and Painless” bangs though.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:20 (four months ago) Permalink

live version of born under punches slays the studio version, you crazy

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:23 (four months ago) Permalink

Too slow and a totally different groove. Tape loops make the song.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:15 (four months ago) Permalink

I like the live Born Under Punches, but it doesn't really compare. As flappy said the groove is totally different.

Not sure why Once in a Lifetime doesn't come through so well live, it's kind of got a strange rhythm to it and I think Eno's vocals are missed on the chorus. I feel like a lot of the power in the tune is due to the way the instruments are mixed - the bass up top, the twinkly synths in the background, Byrne front and center.

Great Curve...feel like it's too layered and complex to properly replicate. The live version I have sounds like it had to be slowed down and the mass vocals don't gel the way they do in studio.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:28 (four months ago) Permalink

there are plenty of live versions of born under punches that are significantly faster than the recording, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVIKF03KkVM

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:30 (four months ago) Permalink

it's true that the live version doesn't start out with the same groove as the studio version, but it slowly builds the component parts until it reaches a reasonable facsimile of the recorded groove. idk, born under punches is prob my fav heads song, i love both the live and studio versions, but in the live version you can really hear weymouth's bassline--about half of it is totally buried in the recording--and the moment when the rest of the groove locks in with her line is goosebump-inducing.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Still a totally different groove though. The parts that make up the studio version are perfectly out of sync in a way that is only possible with tape loops (or samplers, I suppose, but certainly not a live band).

xp

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:35 (four months ago) Permalink

Good point about her bass line - the main sort of jumbled up slap bass loop sits really high in the mix.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:36 (four months ago) Permalink

back to the topic at hand, Houses In Motion...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaMzKpNC2Jk

y'all should really check out the whole Rome 1980 concert on YT, the versions from that show match anything on The Name of This Band..

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:45 (four months ago) Permalink

yes. Belew is an air bomber at this show. Insane playing

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:53 (four months ago) Permalink

Just watching the version of Crosseyed and Painless from this show. Belew's solo around the 4-minute mark. Fucking hell. What a band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:39 (four months ago) Permalink

Srsly Rome 80 is a top 3 all time reason for youtube existing and i have no idea what the other two are.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:00 (four months ago) Permalink

^^

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:00 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Breakdown of "Rapture" sounds like a Remain in Light outtake: discuss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp9An5OcdE4

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yes!

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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