Thinking of possible "Carnival of Light" release, what's your favorite Beatles bootleg? I couldn't find a thread on this topic

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Also, what are some good mp3 sites for them? I just discovered one called The Source that is amazing...
My vote is Nothing is Real, the Strawb Fields demos boot, that was a revelation

iago g., Tuesday, 18 November 2008 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, this thing really dont like apostrophes (''''')

iago g., Tuesday, 18 November 2008 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

  • Bossa Nova version of "I'm Looking Through You"
  • Long version of "Dig It"
  • That Strawberry Fields one
  • Flangy version of "Glass Onion"
  • "What's the New Mary Jane"

⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinfauns Demos
'Sour Milk Sea'
'What's the New Mary Jane' (final mix & especially 'RS5' screaming overdub)
'Revolution / Revolution #9' (& Revolution - take 20 (composite) i.e. yoko dictophone diary mix)
'Commonwealth Song'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the white album demos recorded at george's house rules all

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

The long version of 'It's All Too Much' is interesting.

There's a lovely early take of 'Yes It Is' with a very gentle Lennon scratch vocal, but that might have made it onto the first Anthology.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 09:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Was just going to say that last one, and no, it didn't. They went with the "day da da twee" version, the foolz.

That long version of "too much-a" is right.

Also, the long version of "All you need is love" where somebody, right at the end, tries to play the "marseilles" as per the intro, on guitar, really badly.

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Mark I got your post btw, no worries!

MaresNest, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I worries: I can't find the damn thing.

If Bimble's around....

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

If it's lost I can resend (last derailment sorry)

MaresNest, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Nonono.. I have it..

it's the one I was going to copy and send back.

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link

White Album demos are so much fun to listen to. They really need to put out a 2-disc remastered set of those cos the Anthology ones kick and bootleg's butt in sound quality.

A Day in The Life "Oh Shit" version with the crazy piano sweeps. Even when you take out the orchestra this was destined to be an amazing piece of music.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the era of mp3 Beatleg sites may be over in favor of torrents amiright?

Btw the Sgt. Pepper Multitrack Masters that recently got released are SOLID GOLD

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Not a sexy choice, but I'll take any of the vinyl remasters that are floating around. My favorite:
Beatles for Sale

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

The 17 minute THINK FOR YOURSELF rehearsal bootleg tells u more about the band than all of the ANTHOLOGY does.
We have done this before but i'll be jiggered if i know when or where it can be found.

piscesx, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd like that too...

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

That link seems to have it, search uptop w/title...

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

esher is the best boot obvs

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

these ere 'remixed' 5 tracks that came out with the multitrack masters pepper stuff are great. the SHE'S LEAVING HOME one especially.

piscesx, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

, and now I have that T4Y session tape, 19 mins...

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

this one, the glyn johns mix of get back is quite nice -- i like it better than Let it Be:
i've never really dug that deep into the multivolume "Get Back Session" bootlegs. Don't knwo if I want to. I've got a bunch of Beatles bootlegs, and while they're all interesting for sure, I don't know if they have anything that's super-essential. Maybe the White Album acoustic things. Thos Sgt. Pepper multitracks are REALLY interesting, but it's not the kind of thing I'm going to listen to a ton.

tylerw, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

RE: The Multitracks. Only after hearing them did I understand all the "Ringo can't really sing, we had to help him out" talk in the Anthology. Isolated it's a really weak vocal part, which I did not expect from how good the finished track sounds.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate that glyn johns get back mix; I'm probably alone in thinking that Spector really did the definitive and best work on that material (yes even the orchestras and choirs).

favorite bootlegs are, dully, the strawberry fields demos/early takes and the kinfaun demos.

akm, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Besides the already cited White Album demos and Strawberry Fields boots, I really like the re-worked River Rhine series. Cleaned up (or defiled, your opinion may very) and culled from the exhaustive "Get Back Sessions", it makes it seem that they were having fun.

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EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe I'm biased but I like the version of <a href="";>She's Leaving Home they did with Super Madrigal Brothers</a>.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I loaded down that 19-minute 'Think for Youself' tape. The real treat is the trot through 'I Want You' that came with it. Good bass obviously, but Ringo's drumming is pretty damn fine - I'm looking forward to hearing him on those remasters, should they ever happen

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Interesting idea: that some people have remixed tracks where the multitracks have been released.

Haven't played it yet, will have to see...

Mark G, Thursday, 20 November 2008 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

LANDMARK Beatleg release this week. Revoltion Take...Your Knickers Off

Includes the 11 minute cut of "Revolution":

Being a huge Beatles nerd I am foaming at the mouth just thinking about it. It's pretty cool, an early version of White Album "Revolution 1" that goes into a long freak-out section which was later lopped off and then overdubbed to comprise "Revolution 9". Here it's just the same groove, a 2-chord groove with John pulling out all the stops sounding batshit insane, some silly backing vocals fading in and out, and a synth drone (tape-loop of trumpets from the end of Strawberry Fields?). Apple is LOSING OUT.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 22 February 2009 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for the link - really enjoyed that.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 February 2009 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

dl here
it is pretty great!

tylerw, Sunday, 22 February 2009 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope it makes the rounds and gets blogged about and Apple takes notice and says "Oh shit, wait, we have TONS of weird Beatles stuff you guys had no idea about" and then decides to ACTUALLY RELEASE SOME NEW BEATLES MUSIC.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 22 February 2009 04:46 (thirteen years ago) link

they played the most frustratingly short fragment of this version on that 30th anniversary radio special (i.e. the track I was referring to upthread as 'Revolution / Revolution #9') and I've always been astounded the full length version wasn't available, thank you so much for posting this, it is everything I love the most about the Beatles

pretty minimal & krautrocky for 1968!

Milton Parker, Sunday, 22 February 2009 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link

so much wilder than I had any right to expect it would be. in some ways this is even more shocking than spinning the collage off into its own piece where people could just skip it, because it's still ostensibly a 'song', just a crazily dissonant & groundbreakingly repetitive one

and this is actually yet another different mix than the one from that radio special, much more finished sounding -- so there's at least one other rough mix of this earlier version out there

Milton Parker, Sunday, 22 February 2009 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

(the mix from the radio special had the horn section from the album version -- this one seems to have been mixed before those horns were tracked)

Milton Parker, Sunday, 22 February 2009 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link

it's still ostensibly a 'song', just a crazily dissonant & groundbreakingly repetitive one

This is how I always felt about "What's The New Mary Jane," which is maybe not as substantial...but I feel like it would have worked just fine on the White Album for exactly these reasons.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 February 2009 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks tylerw, this is very cool.

sleeve, Sunday, 22 February 2009 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder if the rumored 25-minute "Helter Skelter" will suddenly show up?

tylerw, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow…Beatles, Dylan, Springsteen, Rundgren….you guys know good music!

By Hulkzilla on Feb 22, 2009

Lingbert, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

That weird droning sound that at first I thought was a synth and then I thought was trumpets is, according to the Lewisohn book "Complete Recording Sessions", a tape loop of all four Beatles singing. Weird!

But two tape loops made for dropping into the recording of 'Revolution 1' never actually made it and remain on the original tape, unused. One was of all four Beatles singing, at length, "Aaaaaaaaah", very high register. The second was made from a rather manic guitar phrase, played high up on the fretboard. A rough mono remix of take 20 was made and was taken away on a plastic spool by John Lennon at the end of the session. (Lewisohn, 136)

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that is the coolest part of this, i think! not on the released version at all, right?

tylerw, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link


tylerw, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Loving this discovery very much!

Capitaine Jay Vee, Sunday, 22 February 2009 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

It's curiously compelling. I have so many Beatles bootlegs that I've never listened to that it's daunting; maybe this one will give me the kick to begin delving into them.

Euler, Sunday, 22 February 2009 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link


snoball, Sunday, 22 February 2009 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

here's the 30th anniversary radio mix, made later than the one that just leaked, includes the horns & electric guitar fills from the album mix, and many more of the tape loops that ended up in the album 'no. 9'. hope this mix leaks sometime soon minus the announcer

Milton Parker, Monday, 23 February 2009 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

this is crazy, i went from enjoying it, to thinking it had to be fake, to realizing, holy crap, it wasn't. I'm pretty shocked that something this interesting hadn't slipped out before.

akm, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link

so the latest link is different to the bigozine one ?
I've never cared much for the different versions of revolution 1 or 9 but the bigozine one is brilliant !
I love how it starts from the normal song and slowly, goes into the final transe (the "mama papa" at the end are wonderful).

AleXTC, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Its in the NME, apparently, who are suggesting it is fake, which is funny cos there is a shitty casette of Yoko Ono talking over this very version while they are mixing it in the control room. No way on earth this is fake.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i've heard the Yoko thing -- it was always irritating that she was blabbering on over the jam. And I'm not a Yoko hater or anything. Just wanted to hear the Beatles playing .... and now we can! :D

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

apparently this came from the stuff fred seaman stole from yoko's house after lennon died. also, emi has had it removed from youtube as of the past hour.

akm, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Too bad they took it down, and I would totally buy a 12" of this shit if EMI threw it on some psychedelic vinyl. They don't even have the Beatles albums for download like this:

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

thx adam!

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

circa 4:10 this turns into one of the coolest things i've ever heard, what with vocal processing, layering, jibber-jabbering etc.

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

just hearing a new falsetto backing vocal from the beatles is like major fucking event in my (sad) book

iago g., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow. Sounds pretty much like I imagined it, but to hear the "Revolution 9" sound effects in a song context is jarring.

"Revolution 9" literally traumatized me as a child. It feels important to listen to, therefore, while hearing "Carnival of Light" or the 25-minute "Helter Skelter" with John on vocals would be "somewhat interesting" at best.

mike a, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd love for Apple to put this out as a legit release. :)

leavethecapital, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link

they're probably working on it as we speak....NOT!

iago g., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Still waiting for the "Do you want to hold a penis" version of "Do You Want To Know a Secret" to surface...

staggerlee, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol that'd be sweet. anyhoo, looks like the whole boot from whence this came has emerged over at that Big O site ... buncha takes of "Come and Get It" anyone ...? I jest, of course I'll be downloading this later.

tylerw, Friday, 27 February 2009 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

lets keep it rollin

piscesx, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

still think that "Revolution take 20" outtake is one of the better Beatles unreleased kinda things I've ever heard. has it been confirmed as the genuine article? some people (can't quite remember who) were naysaying when it emerged.

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Hey guys, could someone send me the 11minutes revolution bootleg, please ?
I wanted to listen to it yesterday and found out it had disappeared from my cpu...
very frustrating !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 11 October 2009 08:36 (twelve years ago) link

It's take 20, isn't it? If so, there's a link here.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 October 2009 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

yes, great : thanks !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 11 October 2009 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

I think now my favorite is the first take of "Good Night" with John Lennon singing instead of Ringo.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 11 October 2009 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

My personal holy grail is still that hour long reel(s?) of studio chat and oddities that Lewisohn said was compiled during the white album sessions and taken home by Paul...I think you hear bits of it on the anthology dvd in the white album part. would have made a great extra on the white album remaster (rargh!)

iago g., Sunday, 11 October 2009 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

so, I've just listened to the songs on your link and in fact, it's not the version of revolution I was talking about.
The one I had was the one where it's starts roughly like rev1 and by the end it turns into a kind of trans with sound collages like on rev9 with some extra beatles singing parts going "mama papa"... it was around 10min long.

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

I recently got a 2 dvd set called "Get Back" that's pretty awesome. Someone took the time to sync audio that's been circulating for years with matching footage of the guys in the studio recording Abbey Road/Let It Be stuff, hanging out in the control room, jamming in a raucous Velvets-y stylee with Yoko on vocals, etc. Great viewing.

Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

that's definitely this one then, and it *is* marked take 20. I thought that this take was the basis for 'Revolution 9' and was faded in and out with the other stuff, but I might have got that wrong - it doesn't seem to have the rawer 'Awll-rright's on this take. It definitely uses the same feedback loop in the second half.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 October 2009 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

that's the one !
it's such a great version (much better than all the others, in my opinion).
thanks a lot !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Front page of that same blog has John & Yoko live on stage with Zappa & the Mothers in '71. Pretty cool!

Nate Carson, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

Went back to read in Lewisohn about the White Album outtakes iago g.'s mentioned above. I guess it goes by the name "Beatles Chat" but he doesn't explain much about it other than describing a few items included.

I did come across mention of a 6-track original version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" (completely different performance from the final version) featuring backwards guitar and organ and a more subdued Harrison lead vocal. Would love to hear that!

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry, Adam, I should have been more specific about its contents--it is first mentioned on page 12 of Lewisohn's The Beatles Recording Sessions, and described as "three tapes of out-takes and studio chatter [...] compiled at the Beatles' request" and then there are a few mentions throughout the book of the kinds of things on there. For instance, ML states that John runs through the original expletive-laden Sexy Sadie when it was still called Maharishi

iago g., Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

That's on the "Purple Chick" white album page...

Mark G, Monday, 12 October 2009 07:21 (twelve years ago) link

I think now my favorite is the first take of "Good Night" with John Lennon singing instead of Ringo.

Does this actually exist? I've read about it, but have never been able to get my hands on it.

Darin, Monday, 12 October 2009 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, ditti.

Mark G, Monday, 12 October 2009 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Hasn't been bootlegged, just I've kind of reached the point where my collection of studio outtakes is nearing saturation point and I'm also reading "Recording Sessions" for the first time ever so whenever I come across something that sounds nice I make a note of it and hope it eventually leaks. It's fun to dream, and besides, we recently got that 11-minute long "Revolution" so anything is possible now...

"Good Night" hasn't leaked but damn, that would be a wonderful listen! Also supposedly one of those really long "Helter Skelter" jams features Lennon on lead vocals...

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 12 October 2009 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

There was an extended version of the pre-dubbed 'I am the Walrus' on a 'Miscellaneous Tracks' bootleg posted a few months ago (good cover photo - in the hollyhocks at St Pancras Old Church) which is well well seeking out.

The bass and drums is great, especially in the last 45 seconds or so.

Bob Six, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:49 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, must have.

I do have an excellent predub of that from the original "Unsurpassed masters" from when.

Mark G, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 07:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think it was this one. I'd been looking for the long 'Think For Yourself' - getting the other stuff was just a happy accident

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 07:30 (twelve years ago) link

That's the one. Is the 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' version the fabled take with Paul's vocal?

Bob Six, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

Kinfauns demos are amazing, they sound like they're all having fun. maybe for the last time, as it all seemed to go downhill soon as they got into the actual studio.

piscesx, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:27 (seven years ago) link

This extended take of She's A Woman is fun - lots of crazy guitar and Paul shrieking in the final stretch

Darin, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 00:18 (seven years ago) link

going down these outtakes rabbit holes is fun and can just take hours. we're so spoiled that these are everywhere now.

akm, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 03:25 (seven years ago) link

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