A thread for the band Fucked Up

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I looked really hard for a thread and couldn't find one, so here. What is up with this band Fucked Up? I need some context here.

What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Saturday, 18 October 2008 16:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

their new album basically sounds like some chugga chugga midwest hardcore stuff with shouty, gruff vocals...but with crazy strings and weird guitar and woodwind like overdubs on top of it...like if dillinger four went psych...or like pegboy meets hawkwind

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

it's pretty awesome

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I really like some aspects of their sound, and they have a few standout tunes, but I find their albums as a whole very monotonous.

Simon H., Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm enjoying it. I heard some Husker Du psychedelia, and some Laughing Hyenas too.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm enjoying the record myself. Just weird to see a band that clearly has roots in hardcore popping up on Matador with these expansive songs and a preexisting reputation. I know fuck all about hardcore so I'm approaching it pretty blindly. If anyone wants to toss out hardcore bands that relate to this at all it'd be much appreciated.

What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Saturday, 18 October 2008 18:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

Last album was better. People slept.

jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 October 2008 18:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

dear harveyw
what do you think of their cover of "Anorak City"?
yours,

zappi, Saturday, 18 October 2008 19:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

"year of the pig" features some of the finest motorik since stereolab was good

kamerad, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

i really love the new record

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Last album was better. People slept.

― jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:12 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah for me it was more like i never trust hardcore ppl telling me something is good and the name of the band was so stupid

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

At this point I've only heard bits of the last record but the new one's gonna be #2 on my year-end list; it's so fucking great. Production-wise it blows the last record away and that's probably half the reason I like it.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

Year of the Pig does rule. Def the most krauty thing they've ever done, and maybe thus kinda misleading. I dunno. It pleasantizes their otherwise obstacle-laden singer. Pink Eyes. It's a weird dynamic, cuz he obv so defines the band, and without him they'd be what? Another boring HC/post-rock hybrid on Hydra Head, I guess. But he's also a big part of what makes em kinda monotonous in the long run (like, over the length of a song, sometimes).

Disagree w Whiney that Hidden World is some kinda masterpiece towering over Chemistry. Chemistry's songs are just as good, and the palette is WAY wider - a good thing, IMO. Do like the Les Thugs vibe on Hidden World.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sort of a weird article about them in the Guardian a couple of months back:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/nov/14/fucked-up-bowery-gig

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Was being too hard on Damian above. I'm used to and even like his singing. Love his lyrics. But it took me a long time to get the hang of Brannon-esque angry dad vocals, and they're still not my favorite thing in the world, so the obstacle factor is def there.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

a friend of mine calls it "big man voice"

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

"year of the pig" features some of the finest motorik since stereolab was good

^^^this - really reminded me of Stereolab from the off, ie more so than it reminded me of the obvious 'rocking motorik' precedents. The female BVs have a lot to do with that I guess. I missed this thread when it was started, never seemed like there was enough interest here to justify one but these guys are honestly one of my favourite bands of the last three years all in all. I feel like I'm pretty much past the point of getting 'fanboy' about bands but they approach what they do in a way that really closely appropriates my vague ideals of how it ought to be done, and I guess to a large extent that's what takes me beyond just thinking of a band in terms of making a rad noise. Which they do as well, so that helps

Lurker of Challops (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

new album sounds like prog mighty mighty bosstones

adam, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

you sound like prog mighty mighty bosstones

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

the last seam album also sounds like prog mighty mighty bosstones but in a better way than this.

adam, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

what i am trying to say is that hidden world is awesome but i can't really get my head around this one.

adam, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

sweep the leg johnny sounds like prog mighty mighty bosstones

kamerad, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok now seriously wtf kind of nonsense is prog mighty mighty bosstones?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

sweep the leg johnny always reminded me of a chicago post punky oingo boingo

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

they kind of had an english beat does drive like jehu thing every now and then

kamerad, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

a new subgenre taxonomized. you're welcome.

adam, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Epics In Minutes" is a collection of their early 7" material. The fact that every song was recorded at a different time in a different location works in their favour.

Owen Pallett, Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah I really gotta pick that up; saw it in the store recently.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 00:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

Only thing "bosstones" about it are the vocals, and then only kinda. Weak, obvious criticism.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

That sounds shitty, but I don't see any merits in the joek.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

the vocals, the vocal melodies, the guitar riffs in the first and fifth songs, fine, whatever, i will from now on tailor my criticism to your specifications of obviousness and humor.

adam, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

i thought it was a funny/kinda accurate.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

minus a

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

the vocals, the vocal melodies

Damian sings like any number of dudes who sing hardcore. Why the bosstones would be the best example I have no idea.

the guitar riffs in the first and fifth songs

If you've got specific bosstones songs you want to cite, be my guest. Otherwise your attempt to throw down the dismissive one-liner has basically succeeded in baffling me.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardcore plus some other stuff. that's about it, and it's fine.

burt_stanton, Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Adam is only trying to revive ILX's stillborn "ska punk!" meme, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs now

Lurker of Challops (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 January 2009 10:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Do like the Les Thugs vibe on Hidden World.
This is a good call. I never thought to compare them to Les Thugs before but I can definitely see it now.

I <3 Les Thugs.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 8 January 2009 10:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

xpost lol yeah i'm going to go to the animal collective thread and say that album sounds like "less than jake on acid"

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 11:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

so yeah they are quite the live act.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

They're playing here soon w/ The Bronx. I don't know anything much at all about the Bronx - anyone wanna clue me in?

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Bronx is hardcore band from California (naturally). They are most notable for having one album with AWESOME cover of bloody vampire fang lady mouth that I wish I still had on vinyl. Basically sounds like classik American hardcore with traditional bigman vocal stylings from comparatively tiny man actually on stage, but mix in some anthemic partytime action rock bro moves. Kinda fun to see live, but only kinda. Last saw 'em open for High on the Fire who tore their fucking heads off tore their fucking heads off their fucking heads off.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/faengz.jpg
main point of this band

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Gruff, accessible punk liked chiefly by Drowned In Sound types as opposed to, you know, punks. Not gonna change your life but if you're going to the gig anyway stick around for them

xp

Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Cool bloods! Thx fellers.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

that is an OTM summation of the bronx (contenderizer's, that is). what was really impressive about fucked up live is how they bring the wall-of-guitars sound of the record to a small room. three guitarists and just a huge, huge sound, but you could still pick up a lot of the little details and melodic overdubs.

they're also a funny band visually in that they really look like they have nothing in common with each other. damian is a huge ridiculous guy, the bassist is librarian-chic, the third guitarist looks wicked wicked young (kind of like michael cera playing hardcore), etc. but they're very fun and positive and the music just ruled.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I tried, Fucked Up, but your records just aren't all that. :-/

But I was excited to hear Year Of The Pig based on all the "motorik" descriptions, then I found a used copy today and listened to it and was really disappointed and bored. :-/ :-/ :-/

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

today just isn't your day

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol, oh it is. The third John Coltrane Impulse Albums box set came out today. Woohoo! And also the new Antony & The Johnsons. anyway...

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also, for once, I didn't despise my country's leader. minor event.

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah, that was a plus

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 06:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

did the brooklyn show with pissed jeans happen last night? anyone go? would really have liked to see both bands (pissed jeans more so, tbh) but I wasn't really up for being at some fake venue until 2am last night.

original bgm, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

morbs, thought you had heard thm before, werwn't you at that show at southpaw with pissed jeans? anyway I dont love em but they're good at what they do ... it's just not 100% my thing

dmr, Monday, 27 June 2011 01:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I completely missed this video, which made me laugh at least twice:

http://www.davidcomestolife.com/

Glad to see that Band of Susans continue to pop up in reviews of FU:

http://drownedinsound.com/releases/16288/reviews/4142870

dlp9001, Monday, 27 June 2011 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

^that's by me, for the little that it's worth

don't think I've seen anyone else make the link between the two bands though

I want to be the girl with the moust ache (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 June 2011 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

good review dude

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

need to listen to this record tbh

markers, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

really good review,yup

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Xpost. Someone at Aquarius Records had picked up on the BoS thing in the past. Can't recall which album review at the moment, but it's online...

dlp9001, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

band of susans make perfect sense as a ref point for what fucked up have been doing since making the leap to matador. i always go for les thugs as a one-jump comparison, but all three have a good deal in common.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

So what do you all think would be the ceiling for this band if they had a good, melodic singer?

The music on "David" is so incredible, I honestly feel like they could be one of the biggest bands in the world if not for the vocals. Like, U2/Radiohead level.

This is not to say that I don't enjoy Damian's vocals. I do. But clearly they are not made for crossover mega-success.

alpine static, Saturday, 2 July 2011 20:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

would depend on the vocals, but yeah, they're willfully operating w/in certain "constraints". sort of funny to read/hear damian talk about this idea (hardcore as a genre that constrains itself in order to achieve purity), as it's clearly a big part of his conception of the band, but he usually limits it to discussion of package design, release strategy, conceptual stuff. not, you know, his own presence in fucked up as the ultimate act of sacrificial hardcore fealty.

dunno about commercial limitation, though. they seem to do pretty well, and there's a significant international audience for hardcore & metal w less melodic vocals. and damian's vision & passion have obviously been crucial to their progress so far. with some nice, pretty singer, they might have just been another also-ran indie band, struggling to find a sound. hard to say...

Looking for that #Swagu? (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 July 2011 21:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

prediction: their next album (to be w/o him as lead singer according to interview(s)) will not be as good because the vocals make it cool otherwise it will just be indie rock music

flopson, Sunday, 3 July 2011 02:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

and there's a significant international audience for hardcore & metal w less melodic vocals

yeah, if anything it's the ongoing pretty-fication of the music that's limiting their success with this crowd, while the vocals make them a dicey proposition with the folks who just want a drip-feed of pretty, "sweeping" indie. they really are kind of trapped in a self-imposed middle ground -- which i find kind of fascinating conceptually and (sometimes) beautiful musically, though this album hits me in no way as hard as chemistry, which was No. 1 of 2008 for me -- that's the inverse of so many '80s hardcore bands who began to beef up their pop hooks as the decade went on while keeping the music itself kinda ugly.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 02:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's like husker du writing warehouse but keeping the vocal style of "beyond the threshold" or something.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 02:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

thats whats so cool about it

flopson, Sunday, 3 July 2011 02:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm in no way a Hardcore Guy (in either the specific or general senses of the word) and when i first heard this album i was like "pity about the vocals" but i've come around so completely to them as a constant barreling amelodic roar (while melody's more than covered elsewhere) that i feel like everybody could. i mean couldn't people get used to "queen of hearts" on the radio? it could even be That One Song Where The Guy Screams.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 July 2011 06:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

to my ears damian has actually come a long way in terms of fitting his vocal to what's happening in the song--compared to chemistry his timing and feel for the music is much improved.

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 July 2011 03:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't really know how to quote and stuff, but my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour) is OTM.

alpine static, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 19:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

DYING ON THE INSIDE
DYING ON THE INSIDE
DYING ON THE INSIDE
DYING ON THE INSIDE
DYING ON THE INSIDE

Michael B, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

'hidden world' is pretty good, huh

gbx, Sunday, 16 March 2014 20:25 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Boy howdy, that new album is something.

Also, this adequately approximates seeing them live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsjGlQISaVg

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 2 June 2014 06:37 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

saw them thursday night at a p small club and my head was blown clean off clean hit

the new(er) stuff not really lending itself to the screamalong worked out ok anywayj

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 7 July 2014 04:44 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Just now getting around to listening to Glass Boys. I've adjusted to Damian's vocals over the years, and now I'm wondering if Fucked Up didn't have a screaming shredded throat guy on the mic would I even care about them? Like, take away Damian and you've got some fairly boilerplate guitar rock (albeit with impressive drumming). Weird that the ingredient which turned me away at first is now the most essential part of the appeal for me.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:56 (three years ago) Permalink

good dad post

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 14 November 2014 05:50 (three years ago) Permalink

: /

Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 November 2014 05:52 (three years ago) Permalink

fwiw my dad has no opinions about this band

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 November 2014 06:15 (three years ago) Permalink

some fairly boilerplate guitar rock

Total dad incoming - I have some off coloured jeans and occasionally wear Adidas trainers, plus I've been wearing plaid shirts since '83. This is to go with my collection of two sons who think I'm fucking weird.
That said, I have to take issue with the above.
The layered outro to 'Queen Of Hearts' is sublime. It really is. It makes my hairs rise and for that alone I quite like this band

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Friday, 14 November 2014 13:30 (three years ago) Permalink

That indie rock album that they did for record store day put a lot of things into perspective. I wasn't so fond of Glass Boys, but then I went back to David Comes To Life expecting to be let down. But it's still pretty great. In some ways it's a Zen Arcade with the production that everyone always wishes Zen Arcade had had.

dlp9001, Friday, 14 November 2014 15:53 (three years ago) Permalink

glass boys is actually pretty good, i wasn't into it at first either

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:05 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah it took me a while to come around to glass boys but i like it a lot now even if its less immediately abrasive

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:11 (three years ago) Permalink

That indie rock album that they did for record store day

Do you mean the David tie-in album of fake 70s covers? That was so great.

I was just listening to their 2014 Zodiac series EP, Year of the Dragon, which is just great. Might be one of my favorite entries in that series.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:54 (three years ago) Permalink

I've actually still never heard the fake covers record--is it worth hearing? I thought it was kinda a throwaway.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 20 November 2014 05:17 (three years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

I'm finally hearing the slow version of Glass Boys (really the "less drums" version) and it's worth hearing. Pretty sure I like it better than the official release.

dlp9001, Friday, 29 May 2015 23:41 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

best band

alpine static, Saturday, 8 August 2015 08:13 (three years ago) Permalink

p much

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 8 August 2015 09:02 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Is there a better front man performing than Damian right now? Incredible.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Saturday, 4 August 2018 00:13 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

After an iffy opening track, Raise Your Voice Joyce brings the harmonies we all wanted

imago, Thursday, 11 October 2018 14:10 (one week ago) Permalink

you know what, this album is cool

imago, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:51 (one week ago) Permalink

Yup. I'm halfway through and it's what i was hoping for from it. You're right about the first track

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:04 (one week ago) Permalink

"cool" is exactly the right word for this record

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 October 2018 05:25 (one week ago) Permalink

the idea - mentioned a few times in this thread - that if you take D out of this band you're left with an unremarkable indie rock band is wild, man

alpine static, Sunday, 14 October 2018 06:18 (one week ago) Permalink

"normal people" probably my favorite unremarkable indie rock song of the past several years

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 October 2018 14:22 (one week ago) Permalink

"torch to light" is also so so so amazing

this is better than david comes to life imo

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 October 2018 14:37 (one week ago) Permalink

fully agreed

it doesn't have a queen of hearts but the songs are much stronger and the album more varied on the whole

imago, Sunday, 14 October 2018 16:01 (one week ago) Permalink

the idea - mentioned a few times in this thread - that if you take D out of this band you're left with an unremarkable indie rock band is wild, man

― alpine static

take D out of the band and you'd have a fucking AMAZING indie rock band imo

dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 14 October 2018 16:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess Talking Pictures is this albums Queen Of Hearts

imago, Friday, 19 October 2018 19:30 (two days ago) Permalink

it really kind of is

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 19 October 2018 20:03 (two days ago) Permalink

it's also one of the best NIN songs in a while (it actually reminds me of something else more but I've forgotten what)

this album is rewarding replays well, there's a lot happening and it's mostly v satisfying

imago, Friday, 19 October 2018 20:10 (two days ago) Permalink

OH I WORKED IT OUT it took me nearly half an hour

it reminds me of Trail Of Dead EP track Intelligence

so it's also one of their best songs in a while haha

imago, Friday, 19 October 2018 20:50 (two days ago) Permalink

that all said, this is a brilliant 8-track album that ends with the title track and then goes on for another near-hour

imago, Saturday, 20 October 2018 23:42 (yesterday) Permalink


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