In A Similarly Silent Way

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yeah — the wild/intense stuff is maybe what's best known from Miles' 1970s, but even things like Agharta have moments that are just beautiful.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

right on! i'll check it out tonight

yeah tbh i've meant to dig into the other stuff, it just all seems so daunting and massive.

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:58 (two years ago) link

yeah, not to say there isn't plenty of "out" playing and general freakiness, but especially in 74-75, I've found a bunch of subtler/gentler stuff creeping into the live shows.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:08 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnBifdSbqA

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

^ Oof, tasty. Kind of Sextant + IASW, in 15/8/time!

This Circle feat. Verde album sounds like a meditation on IASW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnzGI_vXBQ

Noel Emits, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:46 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Heard Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay for the first time last night through a friend's really nice sound system, and it was spectacular and in a similarly silent way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9aGUom3Bk

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:04 (two years ago) link

I really like the version of that song on the CTI Allstars California concert lp played by the stripped down band
Freddie Hubbard (trumpet), Stanley Turrentine (tenor saxophone), George Benson (guitar), Johnny Hammond (keyboards), Ron Carter (upright bass), Billy Cobham (drums), Airto Moreira (percussion).

Stevolende, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:34 (two years ago) link

Title track of Red Clay is still one of my fave CTI jams

doug watson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:06 (two years ago) link

A friend gave me Red Clay on vinyl a few years back; I played it once and filed it away. I'm listening to it now via the link above and it's better than I remember. Doesn't have IASW's languid spaciness, though.

Supporters Fear Dan's Post Will Lack The Edge They Love (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:34 (two years ago) link

that mal waldron track upthread is radical. annoying that copies of that record are so pricey (appears to be on spotify though).

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 22:13 (two years ago) link

was gonna mention that julian priester "love,love" embedded above - what an extraordinary cut (side one esp but both are huge)

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:38 (two years ago) link

The Call by Mal Waldron is so excellent, and I think sadly it's his only material where he plays electric piano.

calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:42 (two years ago) link

If anyone needs another hot version of Red Clay (and truthfully they're all pretty hot) - Freddie & Joe Henderson guest on Charles Earland's 'Leaving This Planet' and it rips. About a decade later there's a Hubbard LP titled Classics that has Henderson again along with Bobby Hutcherson and it's choice. Well worth seeking.

As for the thread topic I would second The Jewel In The Lotus. Just a great, great record.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:57 (two years ago) link

Red Clay and Straight Life are both excellent albums; so is Stanley Turrentine's Sugar, which also has Hubbard, Benson, and Carter, plus Lonnie Liston Smith on keyboards.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:10 (two years ago) link

damn is there a CTI thread? every time I get a CTI rec it sends me down a smooth, big budget rabbit hole

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:12 (two years ago) link

This whole album is beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huurRUUBl7M

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:14 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGaxJ3glLo

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:16 (two years ago) link

Think Benny Maupin's "Jewel in the Lotus" is pretty reminiscent and has other Miles veterans besides himself playing on it (H. Hancock; Buster Williams; Billy Hart etc.).

ellaguru, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:29 (two years ago) link

that Harvest Time by Sanders upthread is spectacular

niels, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:04 (two years ago) link

Great record, one of his best. Too bad it’s so scarce without a legit reissue.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:15 (two years ago) link

So much great stuff in this thread. I'd add that many versions of "Dark Star" played by the Grateful Dead in 1973 and 74 give off strong "Shh/Peaceful" vibes with their mellow fusion-oriented improv in the mixolydian mode and Keith Godchaux on Fender Rhodes.

Prime example from 8/1/73:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsoDMEXFXM

J. Sam, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:38 (two years ago) link

Is there a Godwin's for Grateful Dead? :)

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:36 (two years ago) link

Radiohead seem to have some sounds lifted from Miles electric era particularly from In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew. E.g Trumpet line in “Bloom”, electric keyboards in “Subterranean Homesick alien”, Kinetic even samples Miles Davis iirc... they seem to like Miles Davis and Mingus a lot (but then again who doesn’t?)... can’t think of any more specific examples but there’s some textures and production choices from OKC onwards which seem to be sprinkled with influeces from Miles’ electric era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:31 (two years ago) link

Shuggie Otis (this was a bonus track on the Luaka Bop reissue of Inspiration Information) Freedom Flight is def in the silent way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7iWxvl6sY

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:19 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

don't think this has been mentioned yet, Idris Muhammed "Peace"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls0nFVV58Xg

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:54 (two years ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yFSGJ79Id2e1EENqmVeWA
A.D. Buchanan's Armchair Gospel from Danish trumpet player Jacob Buchanan fits - featuring Jakob Bro on guitar and Marilyn Mazur (who played with Miles) on drums

such a jam

niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:10 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Another one not named: Terje Rypdal's song Ghostdancing is almost surely an homage (and has hints of Pharaoh's Dance).

Pataphysician, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

Excellent UK post-jazz band Dinosaur's latest album has some great Silent Way type moments on it. I recommend. I also recommend their more immediate previous album

https://i2.wp.com/www.birdistheworm.com/wp-content/uploads/Dinosaur-Wonder-Trail.jpg?fit=355%2C355&ssl=1

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 08:44 (one year ago) link

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:07 (one year ago) link

They're very nice people though and come across very lovely on stage

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:23 (one year ago) link

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

where are the former members of jefferson airplane when you need them?

canary christ (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:34 (one year ago) link

I can't tell who's joking or what but isn't that 60/70s band the reason that Dinosaur Jr had to add the "Jr"?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:35 (one year ago) link

oh wow never mind I looked it up so this is another new band haha I'd never seen the original 60s one and that cover could be from whenever

so they'll be Dinosaur Jr Jr

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:38 (one year ago) link

I always take a token brit-jazz Mercury prize nom as an indelible stain on a band's character, much more than whatever the heck their bloody name is!

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:57 (one year ago) link

The Dinosaurs were ex members of several ballroom scene SF bands at least one of whom had legal training and sued the Amherst band over use of their name,. I think that was after the 2nd lp, & they actually played in London under the original non-augmented name at the end of 87.
Surprised me that this jazz band could come along and use the name without comment but maybe the people who brought the late 80s lawsuit are retired or dead

Stevolende, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:03 (one year ago) link

Dinosaur UK?

doug watson, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:35 (one year ago) link

this is why the arthur russell project became "dinosaur l", right?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 24 August 2018 13:44 (one year ago) link

Sanctuary from Bitches Brew sounds a good deal like ISW.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 August 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

"Nowhere" by Bob Moses (recorded in 1967-68 but shelved until 2003) gives off strong proto-IaSW vibes. shame it doesn't continue for another 15 or 20 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnqcOwMjb0

nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:38 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

this track by Luis Gasca starts off sounding like IASW rip, the rest of the album, For Those Who Chant, has other stuff going on (Carlos Santana, chanting etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVMV2VyiKr4

mizzell, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:56 (two months ago) link

I love that album. The personnel is amazing: Gasca on trumpet, Joe Henderson on tenor sax, Hadley Caliman on flute, Carlos Santana and Neal Schon on guitars, Richard Kermode on organ, George Cables, Gregg Rolie and Mark Levine on piano and/or electric piano, José "Chepito" Areas on vibes, Stanley Clarke on bass, Lenny White and Michael Shrieve on drums, Carmelo Garcia and Coke Escovedo on timbales, Mike Carabello and Victor Pantoja on congas, and Garnette Mims, Joan MacGregor, Rico Reyes, and Snooky Flowers on other percussion.

It's only ever been released on CD once, in Japan, and the prices on Discogs are far more than I'm willing to pay.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:19 (two months ago) link

Brand-new music from Anthony Nemet, who's collaborated a bunch with Meg from U.S. Girls and her husband Max Turnbull--this is In A Supersilent Way, but IMO he nails it, maybe uncannily so but man I love this sound (another band from here in Toronto that I'd also recommend to folks, who are friends of/peers with Anthony but come from the Soft Machine/prog end of jazz fusion, would be Zacht Automaat):

https://tonypriceto.bandcamp.com/album/interview-discount

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:02 (two months ago) link

lol, “Zacht Automaat” looks like a failed English-to-Dutch translation of “Soft Machine” (correct would be “Zachte Automaat”)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:07 (two months ago) link

It is--the bandleader, Carl Didur, is a huge Softs fan

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:44 (two months ago) link

this tony price record is crazy

is he sampling or did he actually manage to get a band to sound like this or is it both ?

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 03:17 (two months ago) link

He has good/interesting horn players on the session (Daniel Pencer on bass clarinet plays live with Andy Shauf; Andy Haas on sax was in Martha & The Muffins early on and now plays in the Cosmic Range), which helps IMO, and obv treated the sounds (electric keys, etc.) for max Teology

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:39 (two months ago) link

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2020/05/26/tune-in-zone-out-silent-ways/

tylerw, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:52 (two months ago) link


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