Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I just read about this. Apparently some kind of streaming iTunes looking service with rights to all the majors cleared. Could be interesting? If nothing else just to see it fail miserably...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

trying this now. blatant rip of itunes design-wise but looks better in many ways. all i really want to do with it is listen to whole albums easily and it seems to let you do that very well (i haven't heard the ads yet tho).

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

20 second xbox ad came in after 5 songs. not bad really.

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

needs last.fm support asap

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

for Windows maybe!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i am so in love with this thing <3

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had it happen briefly, restarting the app helped

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:01 (five months ago) link

same

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:02 (five months ago) link

the UX on the desktop app is rough with the new changes. having to constantly change the view options just to see 'albums'.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:07 (five months ago) link

xps yeh, restarting does the job

nxd, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:09 (five months ago) link

yep, been happening a lot lately. just restart the app. it's annoying, but a ten second fix at most.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:22 (five months ago) link

death by 1 thousand cuts

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:44 (five months ago) link

THis thing of albums bei9ng listed as a list with the tracklist between lp titles instead of thumbnails is more annoying than before since you used to be able to choose which one you used and now it seems to be doing th choosing and keeps reverting to the track by track thing. So I have to keep hitting the thumbnails option.
bloomin bloom

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 April 2022 11:52 (five months ago) link

Every time I use this garbage app I have to learn new UI navigations

calstars, Saturday, 23 April 2022 12:34 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I could never quite make out the words...

https://i.imgur.com/NvzQ7ya.png

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 14 May 2022 07:53 (four months ago) link

Lol.

But I came to post that I just got an interesting recommendation for a new release by “John Cale.”

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 May 2022 16:30 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Spotify leavesa lot of data on my phone or at least once my phone has played several podcasts it is taking up a lot of data storage. So I have up til now run ccleaner to get rid of it every day. So I don't run out of space which has happened before. For some reason when I went to check ccleaner to highlight the data storage there is no Spotify visible on the app. So whatever storage is being taken up is presumably just going to continue accumulating. Not sure how you get around that. Do I just reinstall both ccleaner and Spotify or is there anything else i can do.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 11:56 (three months ago) link

You can just go into settings on the Spotify app and select 'Clear Cache'

groovypanda, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 11:59 (three months ago) link

I have many times found it necessary to uninstall and reinstall Spotify to get it to truly delete downloaded music. Hasn't been an issue yet with my current phone so maybe it's somewhat fixed or maybe I just haven't been using it as much.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 12:23 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

unknown to google artist/track claiming to feature PJ Harvey and Bat for Lashes. Hmmmm. https://open.spotify.com/album/5xOAZ1sDrCZjfc320v8JV0?si=DpTyUMOjS3iR6xuktxlMHA

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 15 July 2022 00:36 (two months ago) link

Minor quibble and I guess the algorithms aren't perfect but I listen to The Beths quite a lot yet only found out about their new track from the thread on ILX, rather than through my Release Radar playlist.

groovypanda, Friday, 15 July 2022 10:32 (two months ago) link

The new “Deerhunter” single in my new release playlist is interesting

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 15 July 2022 15:09 (two months ago) link

There are a handful of things I miss from Spotify since I switched to Tidal, but not having (so far) any fake bands polluting my "new arrivals" playlist is reason enough to make me very happy with my decision to switch.

silverfish, Friday, 15 July 2022 15:24 (two months ago) link

The new “Deerhunter” single in my new release playlist is interesting


It’s a field recording of actual deer hunting

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 July 2022 16:08 (two months ago) link

This one popped up in my Release Radar:

I had to listen to it. Was surprised to find that it was not trap stuff, but kind of an unremarkable home studio produced shoegaze-y pop rock thing. I wonder how/why it got uploaded with these tags.

beard papa, Friday, 15 July 2022 19:10 (two months ago) link

oops.. https://i.imgur.com/89qZSke.png

beard papa, Friday, 15 July 2022 19:11 (two months ago) link

i hate that false tag shit. got a new release notification for david axelrod a while back and it turns out it was just some dunce who used a david axelrod sample in a song.

Disappointing it wasn’t a least a speech by the former Obama aide.

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:00 (two months ago) link

heardle doesn't work for me anymore, thanks Spotify

koogs, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:21 (two months ago) link

If you makes you guys feel any better, that false tag stuff also happens on Amazon Music – plus the UI totally sucks.

“Lawman,” Slick (Grunt) (morrisp), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:21 (two months ago) link

anyone tried https://earth.fm/

nxd, Sunday, 17 July 2022 23:13 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

i use the queue feature very often and something that i would find extremely useful is a "play last in queue" option. i like to put on three or four albums in a row and sometimes add on to that in the middle, so a "play last" option would be ideal. the way the queue works now is functional, but kind of clunky. anyone have any insights?

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:41 (two months ago) link

I just use playlists for everything. I always have multiple listening plans going, so the one queue isn't useful.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:44 (two months ago) link

I use playlists for organizing albums - feels kind of weird since... well, they're albums. But works fine.

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 10:28 (one month ago) link

It seems like there are a lot of multiple instances of the same album on Spotify as observed only when re-adding a track to a playlist that's already in it and the app failing to detect the duplication (despite only one instance of the album appearing in search results and being navigable to). I'm frequently adding tracks to large playlists, realising later they're already in (same version btw) and then removing them manually.

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 11:33 (one month ago) link

I've never head that tbh - always get the 'Already in playlist' message

groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 11:38 (one month ago) link

You can drag songs to the top of your queue once they've been added (both on desktop and phone clients) xps

groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 11:39 (one month ago) link

It seems like there are a lot of multiple instances of the same album on Spotify

Yeah, there are, see e.g. the albums list near the top of this page from Glenn's site. In most cases, however, it seems that various instances are simply used for different sets of countries, in which case a single given user would rarely add the same track from two different instances of an album.

Actually, I thought cross-instance same-track-ness was (supposed to be) caught by the mechanism – further down on the page, a given track is clearly associated with various releases and instances, so I thought this info might be used for duplicate warnings as well as e.g. for the (very useful) play count harmonization, but a simple test (adding a song from a single and an album) gives no warning, so I guess it isn't.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:48 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

not important or interesting whatsoever but-

why does the #1 song have so many fewer plays than the ones below it?

https://i.imgur.com/aFyevwp_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

does it have to do with recent trends?

(hope that works. imgur seems to not want anyone to post photos off-site anymore. here's the link in case)

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, it has to be current popularity. Beyonce's entire top ten is from the new album, even though those songs have much lower play counts than her huge hits.

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, Glenn's addressed this before - ranking is a secret algorithmic sauce, presumably meant to address both current and lifetime popularity. I imagine they want you to quickly see the songs that possibly led you towards that artist, which could be something trending recently as opposed to their biggest catalog classics.

I just wish there were a separate page that just shows you every single track ranked with play count, but I concede that this is a niche use which would used primarily by ILM posters.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 September 2022 20:15 (two weeks ago) link

I'm glad there isn't, Dr Casino. That would probably depress me.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 16 September 2022 20:31 (two weeks ago) link

yeah i figured- it just seemed like the gap in that one i posted is *especially* big so i started to wonder. thx everyone for new answers

also would appreciate seeing alltime stats, but simultaneously understand it's a silly thing.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:50 (two weeks ago) link

the search bar on desktop version is baccccck!

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2022 19:50 (one week ago) link

Spotify's search function sucks. You can't use " to do an exact search, which makes finding some songs with common words in the titles a total pain in the butt.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 23 September 2022 19:52 (one week ago) link

yes but the search being embedded back in the top bar is good

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2022 20:11 (one week ago) link

Barry Adamson's 'Oedipus Schmoedipus' LP is listed as from 1993 when it's actually 1995. That's a weird error if it came from the label's own metadata as usually the year of release is given as later when incorrect.

nashwan, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:31 (three days ago) link

('96 really, promos and the like aside)

nashwan, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:32 (three days ago) link

Spotify is massively inconsistent with the release years it lists. Some artists will have albums listed by initial release year; others by year of reissue/remaster; and others a combo of both. It can make it pretty hard to track an established artists' career path without external references.

The Ghost Club, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:36 (three days ago) link

The normalcy of all that was part of nashwan's point as I read it?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 29 September 2022 22:41 (three days ago) link

All the dates come from the licensors, but this is one of the few bits of album-level metadata that we are allowed to override for manual corrections, instead of having to send the complaints back to the licensors. So I just fixed those Adamson albums. We have four copies of that, two from a former licensor with the correct dates but no streaming availability, and two from a newer licensor with the wrong release-dates despite having 1996 in the copyright info. Sigh.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 September 2022 23:29 (three days ago) link

As for exact-match searching, that was the original sole function of what eventually became a slightly more involved research wing of everynoise:

https://everynoise.com/research.cgi?mode=track

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 September 2022 23:32 (three days ago) link

The other day I put 86'd by Subcircus on a playlist, when I came round to playing it it was a completely different song. It seems like the track titles on their album Carousel are completely mixed up - the titles match the order shown in discogs but the actual songs are in a completely different order - which matches the tracklist shown by google, I don't know where their information comes from.

ledge, Friday, 30 September 2022 08:19 (two days ago) link

We got the same wrong tracklists from two different licensors in two different countries for that Subcircus album, so the data was probably mis-entered way back at the dawn of digital time...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 30 September 2022 13:39 (two days ago) link

Thanks for the everynoise link! Really useful.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:33 (two days ago) link


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