Spotify - anyone heard of it?

I just read about this. Apparently some kind of streaming iTunes looking service with rights to all the majors cleared. Could be interesting? If nothing else just to see it fail miserably...

trying this now. blatant rip of itunes design-wise but looks better in many ways. all i really want to do with it is listen to whole albums easily and it seems to let you do that very well (i haven't heard the ads yet tho).

20 second xbox ad came in after 5 songs. not bad really.

needs last.fm support asap

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

for Windows maybe!

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

i am so in love with this thing <3

some artist tag crapness tho

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

does it pass the melt banana test?

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

does not work in australia yet

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

fails Boredoms test :(

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

(advert)

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

^ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-digital/digital-album-packaging-should-improve-in-2008-idUSN3049009520071231

Why would every song from the CD of Richard & Linda Thompson's End of the Rainbow: The Island Record Years be included on the Spotify version except for the last and best track, an epic live take of "Calvary Cross"?

Any idea why My Bloody Valentine's whole catalogue has been unavailable in the EU for a few weeks now?

Don't Ask Why

I just realized a good way to find good playlists that might have stuff on them that you haven't heard before. They're in the "about" section when you look at an artist. Gives you a better, more personal context for an artist when you want to hear other stuff in that vein.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/31/spotify-social-listening/

outloud.dj / turntable.fm social thing in the works apparently

Thats cool - I guess the next step will be adding live mixing to this?

Hadn't realised taht podcast wouldn't be streaming from Spotify as website. Or to put taht another way. I just had my old modem cease to function which meant that both utorrent and internet websites didn't connect whereas a podcast I was playing through the computer continued to play. So does it download first then play or what, which is why I'm asking if it does something other than play on the site. Just would have thought it would cut out when both the other things I was getting just ceased. THink it would have played through to the end if I hadn't stopped it to get the new modem attached.
Otherwise just not geting how that worked, thought it would rely on having an internet connection to continue.

Just would have thought Spotify feed would stop almost immediately on the Internet disconnecting. Continued playing for several minutes after.
Would have thought that a buffer would be very short I. E.several seconds.
Think it only went off because computer did when wrong lead got pulled as I was attaching new modem.
Broadband service gave me new modem this afternoon. Seems to have been timed to have old modem turn off a couple of hours after I signed reception with he courier.

The default on Spotify now seems to be to repeat whatever song or album you've selected instead of just stopping when it's over. I don't consider this desirable at all. (If I fall asleep listening to From Genesis to Revelation, that's one thing, but I don't want to wake up also listening to it.) I realize you can de-select the repeat button, but I don't feel I should have to do this every time I want to listen to something. Is there a way to change the default?

can anyone tell me how to bulk remove checks/stars from songs? i use that on the fly to rummage and notate long playlists of new music and hitting that boundary is pissing me off.

i think just go to your library and select whatever songs and right click 'remove songs from your library'. also go post on the spotify community about it. more and more people are going to hit that limit and they need to know its a horrible thing and they need to fix it.
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Your-Music-Increase-maximum-Songs-allowed-in-Your-Music/idi-p/733759

thanks, that seems to work in batches of like a hundred or so.
yeah, it's totally dumb.

ive maxed it out three times now.

second time but i spent an hour unchecking stuff and knew their must be a better way.

oh god what a trash ios mobile update

what changed, should i avoid?

it's just a mess imo .. changes to Artist library and shit idk .trying to figure it out now but it's not good

For some reason my ipad won't update its OS for the last several versions, which has the happy advantage of meaning my iteration of Spotify on there is old and working beautifully

this is more a streaming services in general, and I am very prepared for the answer to this to be no, but are there any APIs that allow data to be accessed about the features of the music itself (beat detection, structure, etc.), and not the metadata?

djay's Spotify integration seems to have some of that sort of thing happening, but I can't really tell what's Spotify metadata and what djay itself might be doing (either on my computer or their server)

If I’m not mistaken djay stores that metadata locally and/or on yr personal iCloud, it doesnt sync it back to Spotify for others to use, which makes sense as you can modify the bpm detection/key/etc yourself.

fwiw I am about 10 years of coding ability away from doing anything with this but the stuff I am tossing around wouldn't require anything to be synced back

right right. Is there even another streaming service that has an integration like this available? Might be the closest thing for whatever Katherine's looking to do

Spotify used to have a more open API with all sorts of little third party apps, before I ever used it.

the other solution is to let people work off files on their hard drive, like audiosurf does, but I don't think people... store music that way often anymore, certainly not as often as when it was released

oo making a music game? They're still a thing aren't they? People into those still have a bit of an MP3 collection, I'd think!

maybe in 2008 but things have changed colossally in the past decade in terms of relying on streaming, particularly for newer music

I think some link up with services that provide free-use music? Been a while since I looked at any of these

some yeah, but the ideas I am tossing around rely on songs people know and have pre-existing attachments to (otherwise I'd just hire a composer)

sounds like $$$

the eternal reality check

Spotify seems to support some kind of API for musical information: https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/web-api/reference/tracks/get-audio-analysis/

The free Serato Pyro app still beat-mixes from Spotify with astonishing precision.

Lots of audio information available from the Spotify API...

Just been recommended Lulu's new one. ("To Sir With Love" is a favourite of mine). It's called "Some Mutherfuckers". Thanks, Spotify

Thought it was called “Melancholy.”

I like to "DJ" using the queue, and it would be easier for me if there were an option for moving a track to the top of the queue, like many music players have. Sometimes I have a queue that is fifty tracks long, and it's a pain to drag the track all the way to the top. Or is there an easier way of doing this that I'm not aware of?

I've tried moving podcasts up the queue on my phone and its not worked. Is there an easy way to do that. Can't left click or right click as far as I can see so don't have much nuance in highlighting.
Can you move them up and down queue on a mobile anyway.
JUst tends to jump onto the podcast I'm trying to shift and ditch the others taht are between the previously playing one and the one I'm trying to line up next where I'd like them to just play after teh one I'm trying to move.

It's very annoying that after 15 years of smartphone (and desktop) apps there's a pretty good template by now how to implement features and UI design in a music player (queue and playlist management, navigation by artist/album/genre, shuffle, etc) but every new developer tends to ignore all of that, goes for the awesome impractical crazy unique radical design thing, only to slowly revert to what everybody else does because it works.

I don't think the music-playing universe now is the same as the one 15 years ago, so I don't resent experimentation. (Also: I don't work on the UI at Spotify.)

https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/spotify-determines-that-it-overpaid-publishers-in-2018-requests-refund-1203250260/

The “appears on” list is now so short that I can’t even get a full list of appearances on 2019 Riddims for most dancehall artists. It’s totally ridiculous. Please help, Glenn!

Sorry, longneck, not totally sure what you're looking at. More details?

Dancehall artists typically appear on at least a dozen riddims in the course of a year. These songs are not necessarily singles, and they won’t show up under “albums”, as the album belongs to the producer. But as you might not know who produced a ridding, you’re likely to go to “appears on” in the iPhone app to find the riddims an artist has appeared on. But if I go to, say, Vybz Kartel to look for the riddims he has appeared on, I’m only shown 25 titles and most of these are recent compilations. The 25th and oldest “appears on” entry was added as recently as 15 May, meaning that anything Vybz Kartel appeared on previously to 15 May is simply not there. This makes keeping track of an artists work pretty difficult.

I assume you're looking on a phone, where it's true that we only show the first 25. If you look on the desktop version you can see the whole (very long) Vybz Kartel list...

So they got rid of starred tracks … then added Liked Tracks … which instead of including my years of starred tracks, includes every track from every album I have saved?

yeah real confused by this

xxpost Yeah, I mainly listen on my phone...

Although in good news, they've finally made it so you can save an album without saving every track in the album! Hurrah!