Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I just read about this. Apparently some kind of streaming iTunes looking service with rights to all the majors cleared. Could be interesting? If nothing else just to see it fail miserably...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:39 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

trying this now. blatant rip of itunes design-wise but looks better in many ways. all i really want to do with it is listen to whole albums easily and it seems to let you do that very well (i haven't heard the ads yet tho).

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:24 (ten years ago) link

20 second xbox ad came in after 5 songs. not bad really.

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:45 (ten years ago) link

needs last.fm support asap

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 13:09 (ten years ago) link

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:13 (ten years ago) link

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:15 (ten years ago) link

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:34 (ten years ago) link

for Windows maybe!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:45 (ten years ago) link

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:15 (ten years ago) link

i am so in love with this thing <3

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:23 (ten years ago) link

some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (ten years ago) link

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (ten years ago) link

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (ten years ago) link

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (ten years ago) link

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (ten years ago) link

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (ten years ago) link

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (ten years ago) link

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (ten years ago) link

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (ten years ago) link

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (ten years ago) link

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (ten years ago) link

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (ten years ago) link

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (ten years ago) link

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (ten years ago) link

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (ten years ago) link

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (ten years ago) link

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (ten years ago) link

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (ten years ago) link

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (ten years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (ten years ago) link

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (ten years ago) link

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (ten years ago) link

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (ten years ago) link

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (ten years ago) link

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (ten years ago) link

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (ten years ago) link

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (ten years ago) link

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (ten years ago) link

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (ten years ago) link

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (ten years ago) link

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (ten years ago) link

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (ten years ago) link

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (ten years ago) link

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (ten years ago) link

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (ten years ago) link

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (ten years ago) link

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (ten years ago) link

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (ten years ago) link

I agree that label related features are generally bad, and would very much like label specific pages etc., but as far as I can tell, searches still work. for example, /label:"posh isolation" year:2019/ gets me what I would expect across all clients that I've tried.


You’re right. I just got it working on iOS. Operator error on me, then.

beard papa, Saturday, 27 July 2019 15:54 (one month ago) link

Am noticing a fair bit of playlist degradation, with tracks no longer available to play, even though the albums are. Do albums get removed and re-added, and if so is any effort made to re-synch with tracks that were previously added to playlists?

The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:09 (one month ago) link

In fact it looks like 90% of the songs on playlists I transferred from itunes a few years ago, using an automated service on the web, are no longer available :(

The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:58 (one month ago) link

Noticed this as well, older lists built with a lot of Local Files of music that is clearly available in the spotify library are mostly not recognized anymore.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:51 (one month ago) link

WHY THE FUCK DO THE CONSTANTLY CHANGE THIS APP FOR NO GOOD FUCKING REASON ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 August 2019 15:49 (one month ago) link

local files wish ye was heyah

calstars, Friday, 2 August 2019 01:20 (one month ago) link

Local Files is pretty decent these days all in all (finding stuff you add there instantly) as long as you don't care about wanting to update track metadata within the app (which I still do in MediaMonkey now and then as that had the best approach for this I've ever encountered).

Going between phone and desktop apps though and I keep having to manually clear the playlist queue on the phone only for it to keep coming back - this seems worse than ever lately and keeps catching me out as I forget there had previously been a queue (rightly, having removed each track from it manually on the phone app already) so really jarring when you expect the next track in a playlist or on an album instead. There isn't even a 'Clear entire Queue' option to at least do this with one click or touch.

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:23 (one month ago) link

(finding stuff you add there instantly)

if only

One very annoying thing about Spotify is the way it treats EPs. They are listed with the artist’s singles - which is fine in itself if you’re not going to make a separate section for them. The problem is that instead of being listed chronologically along with those singles EPs are relegated all the way to the bottom of the singles listing. So if someone has released, say, 25 singles since 2012, you’d have to remind yourself to look below all of those for that new EP they might have released this year. It’s completely counterintuitive.

(I’m talking mobile here, the desktop version is pretty much unusable anyway, as others have mentioned)

breastcrawl, Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:35 (one month ago) link

if only

I should've added 'once you search for it' there true

nashwan, Sunday, 18 August 2019 14:42 (one month ago) link

One very annoying thing about Spotify is the way it treats EPs. They are listed with the artist’s singles - which is fine in itself if you’re not going to make a separate section for them. The problem is that instead of being listed chronologically along with those singles EPs are relegated all the way to the bottom of the singles listing. So if someone has released, say, 25 singles since 2012, you’d have to remind yourself to look below all of those for that new EP they might have released this year. It’s completely counterintuitive.

do you have an example of this? everything I've seen has all of the singles and EPs grouped together in descending release date order. for example, here what I got from the Carla Dal Forno artist page:

Name: Took A Long Time
Release Date: 2019-07-24
Number of Tracks: 1

Name: So Much Better
Release Date: 2019-04-16
Number of Tracks: 2

Name: Top Of The Pops
Release Date: 2018-10-12
Number of Tracks: 6

Name: The Garden
Release Date: 2017-10-06
Number of Tracks: 4

Name: What You Gonna Do Now?
Release Date: 2016-08-03
Number of Tracks: 1

Name: Fast Moving Cars
Release Date: 2016-04-29
Number of Tracks: 2

fffv, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:11 (one month ago) link

this is also the way they come back from the API. as a heavy Spotify user, I'm not saying that there aren't things that drive me crazy about the UI, but I also see stuff in this thread that doesn't make sense.

fffv, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:15 (one month ago) link

See, with me it’s different.
In descending order:

Took A Long Time (2019) (isolated above the Albums section, as Latest Release)
So Much Better (2019)
What You Gonna Do Now (2016)
Fast Moving Cars (2016)
Top Of The Pops (2018)
The Garden (2017)
(with the last two being EPs)

You are talking about the mobile version, right?

breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:43 (one month ago) link

See, with me it’s different.
In descending order:

Took A Long Time (2019) (isolated above the Albums section, as Latest Release)
So Much Better (2019)
What You Gonna Do Now (2016)
Fast Moving Cars (2016)
Top Of The Pops (2018)
The Garden (2017)
(with the last two being EPs)

You are talking about the mobile version, right?

breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:43 (one month ago) link

See, with me it’s different.
In descending order:

Took A Long Time (2019) (isolated above the Albums section, as Latest Release)
So Much Better (2019)
What You Gonna Do Now (2016)
Fast Moving Cars (2016)
Top Of The Pops (2018)
The Garden (2017)
(with the last two being EPs)

You are talking about the mobile version, right?

breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:43 (one month ago) link

Another strange thing my Spotify is doing, it plays every song three times in a row.

breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:55 (one month ago) link

seems to have spread to yr posting

Mordy, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:00 (one month ago) link

as I jokingly tried to acknowledge

breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:09 (one month ago) link

The order I gave is what I see on desktop, web, and Android. I guess I can check it on iOS when I get home from work to see if it's the same.

When you request artist albums from the API, there's an album_type parameter that lets you pass one of the following: 'album', 'single', or 'compilation'. there is also an album_group parameter that includes 'album', 'single', 'compilation', and 'appears_on'. I assume this is why singles and EPs are grouped together. If the request doesn't specify album, single, or compilation, you get everything back grouped in that order, with each group in descending release date order.

Anyway, strictly from the perspective of the API, I don't see a way I could treat EPs and singles differently even if I wanted to. Maybe I could add logic based on the number of tracks. I can't see anyone doing that deliberately in the Spotify UI, but who knows.

With that said, the amount I have played around with the Spotify API is pretty limited. I mostly use it as a relatively easy way to grab data about something I am interested in so I can then do other stuff.

fffv, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:29 (one month ago) link

So it looks iOS (which I have) is the outlier here, for whatever reason. If you’re grouping singles and EPs together, that’s fine, but please order them chronologically.

breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:41 (one month ago) link

"Epic collection, friend. There's no more room in your library. To save more, you'll need to remove some songs or albums." I know there are so many things happening in the world that I should be more angry about, but literally nothing makes my blood boil as much as seeing this message pop up on Spotify.

J. Sam, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:42 (one month ago) link

just grabbed my iPad and on there I am getting the same weird order of singles and EPs, so we can confirm that it is an iOS issue and I don't know why (or how) they would do this. my guess is that it was an attempt to put singles and EPs in their own groups that they never finished and then just released anyway.

fffv, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 03:21 (four weeks ago) link

Why would Spotify get rid of the mini-player widget for Android? I have a low-end phone and mostly used/accessed the app direct from my homescreen with this. A few days ago, it was just gone. Spotify no longer in the list of apps with widgets. It was buggy to be sure but can't understand the removal of a way to make accessing the program easier?!?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:56 (four weeks ago) link

i would try and confirm this but i have no idea and cannot discover how to get widgets on my home screen, despite having done it before.

The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:05 (four weeks ago) link

Seeing this thread devolve into nothing but complaints about Spotify is becoming something like porn to me

Buy records, you freeloaders

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:07 (four weeks ago) link

xp Try a "long-press" on an empty area of the homescreen?

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:09 (four weeks ago) link

bingo! and yep, no spotify widget.

The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:12 (four weeks ago) link

I guess the 'hide this song' (in radio stations) is broken on the OS X app?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:55 (three weeks ago) link

The Epic Collection problem can be solved by offloading to playlists, I think

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 August 2019 02:05 (three weeks ago) link

Every time I come back to Spotify the next song in the queue "I Specialize in Love" by Sharon Brown. Whether I close the application and reopen, or just leave it open and idle for a while. I like to think it's my computer's favourite song.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:57 (two weeks ago) link

Looks like the Android widget is returning (due to popular demand): https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Android-Android-Widget/idi-p/4802473/page/137

One more cup of yogurt for the road (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:18 (two weeks ago) link

That's cool, I had completely forgotten about that widget

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:49 (two weeks ago) link

hi all, i'm not much of a spotify user, much less expert. anyway, i'm wondering if it's possible to somehow sort artists by monthly listeners and geography so that i can see a list of the top listened-to artists in, say, Chicago.

is that possible? or is that an "email Spotify's publicist" kind of thing

alpine static, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:54 (one week ago) link

there are charts by country but that's just one chart for all of the US

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:15 (one week ago) link

There aren't city charts, but http://everynoise.com/everyplace.cgi has generated playlists of the most distinctively popular music in particular cities. And on the About tab for individual artists you can see their top cities...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:39 (one week ago) link

thanks, y'all

alpine static, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:58 (one week ago) link

There's this as well: https://spotifymaps.github.io/musicalcities/

nate woolls, Thursday, 12 September 2019 23:47 (one week ago) link

(that map and Every Place at Once are the same data...)

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 September 2019 01:14 (six days ago) link

glenn, is everynoise.com/everyplace topped by Mexico City because they have a greater number of distinctively popular tunes than the rest? What is the metric for that initial ranking of cities?

So many times I'm listening to some obscure garage or art rock nugget, and when I look to see "Where people listen" it's quite often Mexico City. I can't tell if it's because the city is especially diverse in their listening, or if it's just cause it's really big with a lot of Spotify penetration.

bendy, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:26 (six days ago) link

It's party because they have distinctive tastes, relatively speaking, but also our third-party geocoding treats Mexico City as one giant single place, where it breaks NYC up into boroughs, for example. So Mexico City does end up being the city label with the largest number of Spotify users by a sizable margin, at least at the moment.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:33 (six days ago) link

I've argued that the "Where People Listen" thing should be done proportionally, for this reason, but have yet to convince the right people that this would be better than counts, overall. Counts are admittedly easier to understand.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:36 (six days ago) link

So that initial list is ranked by total number of Spotify users in that place? Los Angeles being treated as a single place too, so more listeners than NY, NY. I take it London must be geocoded like the greater NYC area?

bendy, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:47 (six days ago) link

putting this here for Glen:

Worth noting that almost all of Fahey’s Spotify catalogue has fucked up audio that sounds like it’s partly underwater.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, September 14, 2019 12:56 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

these are weird comps with like corel 1998 clip art for covers. they applied some strange panning and reverb also, and some of them aren't even albums. one has studio outtakes i haven't heard anywhere else. not sure what bizarre publishing/licensing shenanigans went into those ending up there
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:07 AM

sleeve, Saturday, 14 September 2019 18:03 (five days ago) link

Have you seen T. Rex on Spotify? There are more sketchy, barely listenable live albums and comps then there are legitimate releases and they still don't have any of the acoustic albums up.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Sunday, 15 September 2019 11:27 (four days ago) link

there used to be a ton of weird Steely Dan comps, but they seem to have mostly vanished

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 16 September 2019 13:45 (three days ago) link

Not sure if this has been mentioned but two very annoying things seem to be happening with my Spotify lately:

- It's completely reorganised the order of my playlists, and I have a LOT of playlists
- When I go to type something in the search box, sometimes it types backwards!

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:30 (two days ago) link

yeah, on my device the playlists are now in the order of most recently played rather than most recently created

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:33 (two days ago) link

The typing backwards thing has been a hassle for me for what feels like a year

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:23 (two days ago) link

big fan of erhcetua

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:39 (two days ago) link

Don’t think I’ve ever experienced the backwards typing situation, but as for the playlist ordering thing: Spotify sometimes messes with that in an update, to my initial dismay as well. HOWEVER, as it turns out, there are actually several different playlist sorting modes available to you, and you can select which one works best for you (in a given situation) by using the filter function above the playlist, next to the Search in playlist function.

It’s actually the same set-up within playlists (search + filter). It’s actually very cool and practical, but Spotify makes it very easy to overlook these functions.

https://support.spotify.com/uk/article/sorting-and-filtering/

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:09 (two days ago) link


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