Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I just read about this. Apparently some kind of streaming iTunes looking service with rights to all the majors cleared. Could be interesting? If nothing else just to see it fail miserably...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:39 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

trying this now. blatant rip of itunes design-wise but looks better in many ways. all i really want to do with it is listen to whole albums easily and it seems to let you do that very well (i haven't heard the ads yet tho).

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

20 second xbox ad came in after 5 songs. not bad really.

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:45 (twelve years ago) link

needs last.fm support asap

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

for Windows maybe!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

i am so in love with this thing <3

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

I guess, yes, they probably gather all sorts of metrics and are very confident that only 0.1% of people ever drag a song into a playlist in a folder.

Computers I can live with, I even dried them in the oven (ledge), Friday, 9 April 2021 08:30 (one week ago) link

We're working on bringing back a list-like Discography view, something many of you have mentioned missing in the new UI.

Hmm maybe this thing isn't so well researched. At least they're listening to some user feedback.

Computers I can live with, I even dried them in the oven (ledge), Friday, 9 April 2021 08:41 (one week ago) link

once an app reaches a certain scale, power user features get dropped like a hot potato if they require any maintenance whatsoever ime. it’s like, thanks early adopters, we’ll take it from here.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 April 2021 08:41 (one week ago) link

Our users like to think they're all power users, and they're paying ten times as much so we don't have that privilege. Even though our development team is 1/30 of the size.

Computers I can live with, I even dried them in the oven (ledge), Friday, 9 April 2021 08:57 (one week ago) link

I refuse to believe that searching for a song or artist is not a popular activity! But I still have the search bar despite updating – maybe the fact mine very briefly disappeared is just a coincidental bug.

Alba, Friday, 9 April 2021 11:58 (one week ago) link

otm. Just sounds like trying to push people more into their own playlists and robot stuff.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 9 April 2021 12:29 (one week ago) link

I still have the search on Windows too fwiw. They seem to trial changes randomly or geographically or something. Usually I see complaints about "the new update" here and have no idea what is going on.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 9 April 2021 12:31 (one week ago) link

If I were to find out my search bar disappeared as a test to see how quickly I would quit and relaunch the app I would not be happy.

Alba, Friday, 9 April 2021 13:09 (one week ago) link

Random by user I mean. Like maybe I'll get stuck with it next week.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 9 April 2021 13:11 (one week ago) link

Maybe this is exactly what you folks are talking about, but I searched for "Doppelgänger" by Curve, and ... it doesn't show up. I see the band, but it only lists two albums, neither of them that one. And yet, if I google "Curve Doppelgänger Spotify" I get a direct link to it on Spotify. So why does it not show up in the band's discography, let alone when I search for it in Spotify?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 13:32 (one week ago) link

maybe a rights thing, it shows up for me in the uk in their discography and as a search result.

Computers I can live with, I even dried them in the oven (ledge), Friday, 9 April 2021 13:58 (one week ago) link

But a rights thing that prevents it from even showing up in a search? I mean, it's in there, somewhere. It's in my library now because I added it ...

Oh, wait, shit, I see. I found it, added it, but it won't let me *play* it, because "content not available." So ... I guess a rights thing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 14:03 (one week ago) link

Yep, you can have things in your library that you can't play. I changed my settings so I can see them in playlists too - they're just greyed out. Happens a lot as things drop out of Spotify, or I play playlists from people in other countries. I like to see what I'm missing.

Alba, Friday, 9 April 2021 14:10 (one week ago) link

most of the Curve discography is not on Spotify, it is not a search issue

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 9 April 2021 14:32 (one week ago) link

If you're curious about regional availability for an artist, you can see everything that's available anywhere, and where, here:

https://everynoise.com/artistprofile.cgi?id=6WYkr1SJofUO79alKPjop0

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 9 April 2021 14:36 (one week ago) link

lol copyright lockdown on this service is hardcore! Sticking with Curve (for the sake of consistency), I figure out how to add/link my Curve stuff as local files to my Spotify account. It shows up, with art and everything, in my library, but (sneaky Spotify) it will only let me *play* it locally, too, on my phone, on my computer, etc., but not streamed to an external speaker. I guess I can connect via bluetooth and play it that way, but I could have done that without Spotify. I suppose to stream it, even from a local source, it would still have to travel through Spotify's servers, and therefore gets flagged as not approved for (in my case) the US. I assume this also means that if I wanted to I wouldn't be able to share my freshly minted Curve playlist, either, which begs the question: what's the point of Spotify even allowing you to create a playlist of local files if you can't stream it or share it? Hmm, maybe it wouldn't have a problem with me creating a playlist of, say, cat sounds I recorded, because it's not copyrighted, but does with anything copyrighted that's not already on Spotify? I guess that makes sense. I wonder if I renamed all the Curve tracks if it would still recognize and flag them, just from their digital MP3 footprint.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:24 (one week ago) link

You can't use Spotify Connect for casting local files to speakers, regardless of their copyright status. The tech just doesn't work that way – it's not like bluetooth where you're sending the music bits to the speaker. Spotify Connect is just like telling another device to get the stream that you've selected on your phone direct from Spotify.

Alba, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:34 (one week ago) link

Ah, I suppose that makes sense.

Still curious about the way this stuff works, I flipped on the VPN on my phone and set it to London, just to see if Spotify's library would adjust accordingly. It didn't (still not much Curve). Looking into it a bit more, it looks like for it to work via the VPN I'd have to switch my account location to the UK as well, but good on Spotify (I guess) for being one step ahead of me, because I think the only way to do that is to switch my billing information to reflect my "location," too, which seems to be asking for (a different kind of) trouble, and too much of it as well. So nice job, Spotify, for thwarting my slightly more than modest efforts to make streaming Curve through Spotify possible!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 17:49 (one week ago) link

suggest you start your own Curve streaming service called Meandr

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:06 (one week ago) link

Did the new desktop app remove support for local files?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:00 (one week ago) link

Spotify no longer has is new versions; just a kaleidoscope of mysterious user experiences

Alba, Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:27 (one week ago) link

"A B testing"

koogs, Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:31 (one week ago) link

What a title:

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/evan-greer-spotify-is-surveillance/

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 12:59 (five days ago) link

nice

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 15:03 (five days ago) link

The patent in question was speculation that never got made, never mind used, but the EP is pretty good, so I guess that's something.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:03 (five days ago) link

The patent was granted three months ago, so I'm not sure what your point is. That said, every tech company with some kind of presence in vocal-interface land has a patent much like that, and vocal analytics are currently already used in plenty of other contexts, so yes suggesting Spotify are uniquely interested in this kind of data is not accurate

rob, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:10 (five days ago) link

Anybody tempted by the Car Thing?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:20 (five days ago) link

I know all that. So what?

rob, Thursday, 15 April 2021 00:42 (four days ago) link

“Never got made” means the same thing as “hasn’t been made yet”

rob, Thursday, 15 April 2021 00:43 (four days ago) link

Yeah, those are pretty recent filings. It’s one thing to point out the tech hasn’t been implemented (and may never be), but not sure why Glenn would point to the timing.

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Thursday, 15 April 2021 00:50 (four days ago) link

Oh God, it's finally hit me. The version I'm now on on MacOS is the first I really feel like complaining about. I can live with the search bar going given that Cmd-L is quicker than clicking into the box anyway but:

• Share options are now just 'copy URL' and 'embed'. Sharing to Twitter was my workaround for when I needed to copy-paste the artist and title. Now there's literally no way to do that on the desktop app. And what about the Spotify URI? Aren't there still tools using the API that required you to paste that in? Maybe URI has been totally deprecated, I dunno.
• Sorting in a playlist has been changed so that sort by artist you now have to go to the top and select it from a pulldown menu, instead of having a column header to just click on. That's a pain in the arse if you're wading through a long playlist, and makes the lack of a quick way to return to the top even more annoying than it was. Fuck dragging a scrollbar.

I would copy paste the version number but of course that's not allowed.

Alba, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:42 (four days ago) link

Oh, ha - there actually is a special copy button for the version number, that you don't see elsewhere: 1.1.56.595.g2d2da0de-a

Alba, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:43 (four days ago) link

I guess we're only on v1 so what do I expect, eh?

Alba, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:44 (four days ago) link

I don't subscribe to Spotify but do have it installed (as it's the way most ppl seem to want to share playlists). I still have the search bar on Mac, even after updating to latest version - though it's 1.1.56.595.g2d2da0de (no "-a" at the end), maybe that makes the difference?

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:48 (four days ago) link

I'm on a Windows PC and the desktop app still has all the various options for sharing: FB, Twitter etc

groovypanda, Friday, 16 April 2021 09:54 (three days ago) link

Ha ha - re: URI, they're really testing the power of those power users:

Hey! Thanks for your feedback about the desktop app's new look. To get the URI of a content, just right-click on it > select Share > hover your cursor on “Copy Song Link” > press “Ctrl” on your keyboard. The option to “Copy Spotify URI” should appear. Hope this helps /KB

— SpotifyCares (@SpotifyCares) April 12, 2021

Alba, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:00 (three days ago) link

Someone on the SpotifyCares team didn't get the memo:

Hi Ottis, help's here! Can you DM us screenshot or video of the issue you're experiencing, as well as the playlist URI? To get it, open the Spotify desktop app > click the three dots next to the content > Share > Copy Spotify URI /RA https://t.co/ldFdZRiNAt

— SpotifyCares (@SpotifyCares) April 15, 2021

Alba, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:02 (three days ago) link

Considering they face multiple competitors offering a more or less identical service at the same price, I’m surprised Spotify isn’t more focused on member satisfaction.

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:07 (three days ago) link

Oh - there's one improvement for geeks in this desktop update: a track's total number of plays now shows on its album view without you having to hover over that little graph.

Alba, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:14 (three days ago) link

It would be nice if it were accessible in playlist view too, but now I'm dreaming.

Alba, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:15 (three days ago) link

Has the ability to view a large-sized album cover on desktop completely vanished? Full screen mode doesn't do it anymore.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 18 April 2021 07:56 (yesterday) link

Hmm, I'm on PC desktop and full screen mode shows the large album art for me.

I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Sunday, 18 April 2021 08:38 (yesterday) link

Sometimes cover art vanishes until you slightly adjust the column width of the tracklist column, then it leaps back into existence.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 18 April 2021 12:29 (yesterday) link

it might be requesting differently sized art from the spotify image server.

(i wrote an image server once. it did not like the front end guys drag-resizing their windows and causing 20 requests a second for slightly larger/smaller images)

koogs, Sunday, 18 April 2021 13:51 (yesterday) link

What's the service that provides metadata and cover art for all these platforms? And can I beg them to use a better scan of Tracy Chapman's album cover? It looks like that copy that's been left out in the sun, and it's the same on every digital platform.

https://i.imgur.com/I8mT5JZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/l5fGazR.jpg

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 April 2021 17:24 (yesterday) link

i'm pretty sure it's the publisher who provides that, not a third party service

eisimpleir (crüt), Sunday, 18 April 2021 17:28 (yesterday) link

Gracenote is who I was thinking of, but it appears they just use whatever they're sent.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 April 2021 17:29 (yesterday) link

that generally comes from the labels, yes

when i was doing this we'd get all sorts but my favourite was the 'image file' that was actually the html source for the amazon website popup box for the cover in question.

sometimes they'd be 15,000 pixels wide, some of them were 250 square...

koogs, Sunday, 18 April 2021 17:33 (yesterday) link

Yikes

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 April 2021 17:34 (yesterday) link


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