MANIC STREET PREACHERS Best Album Poll

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Holy Bible (1994) 46
Generation Terrorists (1992) 23
Gold Against The Soul (1993) 15
Everything Must Go (1996) 13
Know Your Enemy (2001) 9
Send Away the Tigers (2007)7
This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours (1998) 6
Lifeblood (2004) 2


Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm going with the popular choice - Know Your Enemy

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha i actually liked that album. Much better than the one before it and the one after it.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think it's a fantastic record. Actually, I have no clue what would be the popular choice. The debut?

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible head and shoulders above anything else here, even though Richey decided to channel Daily Mail editorials for some of the lyrics.

ledge, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Holy Bible is the popular choice. Unless people have only heard ETMG

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible and Everything Must Go are both excellent. I really liked TIMTTMY as well. It reminds me of Fall a lot. I'm going with Holy Bible though because the lyrics are so brilliant and thought-provoking.

"prejudice burns / brighter when it's all we have to burn"

res, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

1st 3 are unfuckwithable

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ira Robbins likes the lyrics only on The Holy Bible. Just thought you should know

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Know Your Enemy. I don't understand why people don't like that record.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

for some reason i never gave that one a chance

res, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Gold Against The Soul is very underrated.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible.

burt_stanton, Sunday, 31 August 2008 15:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

Never been a huge fan of the debut outside of the singles - I think the second album is better.

Holy Bible is their best.

I do want to defend TIMTTMY though - lyrically awful in places (SYMM) but it features some of their most underrated tracks - especially the atypically beautiful Black Dog On My Shoulder.

Know Your Enemy has some great tracks (the first two singles, "Convalescent") but also their most juvenile lyrics and quite a few throwaway tracks.

Simon H., Sunday, 31 August 2008 16:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible, but would take an album that grafted the best halves of their first two albums together over it, if you see what I mean.

Neil S, Sunday, 31 August 2008 17:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

Some of the tracks on Generation Terrorists were better in their earlier ep form

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 17:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

which of these LP's would be the best for someone (er, a friend of mine...you wouldn't know him) who relly wants to like the Manics, but finds the 7 or 8 songs he's ever heard by them to be overwrought and undermelodic?

henry s, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

GATS is the big sounding, melodic stadium rock album, so that might be good. Everything Must Go is pretty tuneful as well.

Neil S, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible without a shadow of a doubt.

krakow, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

If you don't like "Faster" (from Holy Bible), "A Design for Life" (from EMG), or "You Stole the Sun" (from TIMTTMY), you probably will not like anything by this band. That said, if you're feeling nihilistic, I'd recommend the Holy Bible, which in general really needs to be heard as a whole to understand. If you're feeling contemplative, I'd recommend EMG.

res, Sunday, 31 August 2008 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sleepflower is an awesome song.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 31 August 2008 23:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

Damn, I made a mistake with the poll closing date. Wasn't meant to be so long.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 1 September 2008 09:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Gold Against the Soul

DavidM, Monday, 1 September 2008 09:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

This is actually really difficult. Generation Terrorists has some good stuff, but doesn't sound particularly nice -they were a more brilliant idea than a brilliant band at that time. The Holy Bible is utterly perfect, but I can't bring myself to listen to it any more so I can't vote for that. Everything Must Go is excellent, Nicky's lyrics only fray slightly at the edges. This Is My Truth I liked for a few listens, but then found it had nothing more to offer - plus it's got SYMM on it, which is unredeemable. I'm surprised they've had three albums since, actually (I did like 'Found that Soul', it was claustrophobic in a good way).

But I'll go with Gold Against The Soul too, I think. I may have been influenced by the photo at the head of this too. It sounds really warm, has some cracking tunes on it (esp 'Sleepflower' and 'Life Becoming a Landslide') and they seemed to be having as much fun as they could at that point. Best of all is the fact that it is a kind of resigned betrayal of everything they'd stood for 'til then.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Holy Bible is utterly perfect

Richey's pro capital punishment/anti gun control/"political correctness gone mad!" lyrics are pretty risible. But I can grin and bear them, and 4st 7lb, Faster, even Revol, border on a kind of genius and kind of make up for the badness.

ledge, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

kind of, kind of.

ledge, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

WTF people still rate the Holy Bible?

Matt DC, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Lifeblood (2004)

Didn't even know this existed.

Matt DC, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's crap apart from the 1st song.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

1st album is very long and apart from a few good singles, incredibly boring. Gold Against The Soul is really good with very few bad moments from what I remember. Holy Bible is ace, but can be a little challenging in places. Thought Everything Must Go was annoying and MOR-y, but TIMTTMY was much better, that year's answer to "The Bends". It's a melancholic album but it suited my mood at the time and I played it to death. Listening back though, most of the songs don't achieve very much after the 2 minute mark and go on a bit too long. I love "I'm Not Working", "My Little Empire", "Born A Girl", "Black Dog"... shit I'm gonna bang it on tonight when I get home.

Haven't heard or paid attention to anything after that.

the next grozart, Monday, 1 September 2008 11:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Lifeblood (2004)
Didn't even know this existed

The two singles off it ('Empty Souls' and 'The Love of Richard Nixon') both reached No.2. I read somewhere that they were the two lowest-selling No.2s in chart history

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 September 2008 12:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

That doesn't say much for the number threes those weeks.

Mark G, Monday, 1 September 2008 12:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

wtf was up with that richard nixon song anyway?

the next grozart, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

it was very strange. Number two? What was number one, everything else?

Mark G, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Those historic top threes in full:
Eric Prydz 'Call on Me' - 'The Love of Richard Nixon' - Kelis 'Millionaire'
Elvis 'One Night' (taking the historic 1000th number one slot!) - 'Empty Souls' - The Killers 'Somebody Told Me'

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

WTF people still rate the Holy Bible?

I think I would enjoy it if I played it this evening (even though I won't), which I certainly couldn't say for any of their other records

DJ Mencap, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

i guess i'm meant to vote for the holy bible or emg, but generation terrorists is the one i totally fell for at the time, so, that.

CharlieNo4, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm very surprised by the love for Gold Against the Soul. There are some good tracks on it, but I find it to be the work of a band that hasn't quite evolved fully yet. The Holy Bible is a dense magnum opus that is unrelenting and uncompromising, and a major artistic statement. It's like the audio equivalent of some 1000 page Russian epic novel that requires your effort and attention, but is rich with stark and harrowing images, and horrific insights into the human condition. EMG is way less angsty, and the songs are more introspective and sometimes forlorn. It makes me think of a quiet Sunday afternoon spent reflecting on memories. Really the work of two different bands, these two albums. I love both of them.

Richey's pro capital punishment/anti gun control/"political correctness gone mad!" lyrics are pretty risible.

I read that interpretation on Pitchfork's review of the album, but I don't think the pro-capital punishment and anti-gun control lyrics are meant literally. I think it's an angry and sarcastic criticism of a hypocritical American mentality on retribution and justice, and a dismissal of the small-headed thinking of the human race in general, one in which he feels the ultimate means of addressing is only through its annihilation ("all I preach is extinction"). The sentiment resembles "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out," which is not meant literally, and can't really be construed as a pro-capital punishment and pro-weapons message so much as a nihilistic response to the difficulty of correcting society's problems.

res, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

What of that 'unreleased' USA mix, the extra disc on the 'deluxe' edition?

Mark G, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

... of the Holy Bible, I meant.

Mark G, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible (never bothered with the redux reissue; didn't think I needed to) but Lifeblood is the most underrated.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 1 September 2008 14:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

res otm

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

Holy Bible is the only one I was ever into.

chap, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

Not sure if res otm or not. I think the lyrics are absolutely sincere - it's just that they're only there to provide examples of the deeper idea - a howl for honesty and against tokenism. I don't think there's a deep commitment to capital punishment as an end to strive for, say, but there is a deep commitment to capital punishment as a logical end IF the purpose of the justice system is moral condemnation. But he takes no view on whether that is its right purpose or not, he just wants a proper facing up to the consequences. The PC stuff is absolutely of a piece, given that its whole purpose is a pretence to avoid consequences

These are pretty contradictory and difficult issues and about as out there as pop music is ever likely to get (it's pretty crazy stuff to try to address in three-minute lyrics - one of those slim Camus books would be a better format than your epic Russian novel I reckon) so it's hard to know what *I* think about it, let alone to work out whether I agree with you. In any case, it's hardly risible.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Fuck the Brady Bill" is pretty risible. Their idea that gun control would "disenfranchise the black communities who don't have licences. The white rednecks in America do have licences" (Wire) is something of a minority reading.

And "a proper facing up to the consequences" is surely what the string 'em up brigade have always called for. Richey said "it isn't a right-wing song, but a lot of people don't like seeing a rapist get off with a £25 fine". That "but" seems to be doing the same work as in "I'm not a racist but..."

ledge, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

(it's pretty crazy stuff to try to address in three-minute lyrics - one of those slim Camus books would be a better format than your epic Russian novel I reckon)

OTM, the album always struck me as wildly over-ambitious lyrically, even as a moping teen, which is perhaps part of its power.

Neil S, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sure these are difficult issues. To accept the straw man, no, a lot of people don't like seeing a rapist get off with a £25 fine. But I'm not sure how a song apparently advocating sterilisation, thus occupying the other extreme end of the spectrum which is already well covered in the mainstream media, contributes to the debate. OTOH "all I preach is extinction" is a great nihilistic howl so it succeeds at some level. xp.

ledge, Monday, 1 September 2008 15:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

I couldn't go at it quote-for-quote xp, but isn't that last bit exactly what I was getting at (taking 'face up to the consequences' to mean facing up to the consequences of your choice)? Namely either be tough on crime and punish properly, or take some other approach like rehabilitation and do that properly - don't say you're tough on crime and then fine rapists/release everyone early/plant bilingual signs around Bosnia

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

re: quoting, I just had the biog to hand :) But I still don't see how the song differs from a standard right-wing POV. Maybe I misunderstand, but it sounds like you're saying they're aiming for a kind of Modest Proposal - but if that's the case it's not outrageous enough, since their proposal would be deemed quite reasonable by a fair number of people.

ledge, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten about the intro - it rather suggests the target is the contradiction between the seeking of capital punishment and condemnation of the killer for the same actions, with the nationalism theme suggesting that the distinction is an arbitrary one. Not what I'd had in mind, but maybe the modest proposal is an accurate reading of it

(NB the site I used for the lyrics offers an 'Archives of Pain' ringtone)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

I liked 'The Everlasting' the first time I heard it, but every subsequent listen has been a slog and it's their worst album opener precisely for this reason. Another neat set of chord changes, though.

'S.Y.M.M.' is more about trying and failing to write about something, rather than what the song is supposed to be about. The lyric is one huge cop out with added excuses.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:44 (three months ago) Permalink

Another weird thing about that album is how openly virtuosic JDB's guitar-playing is throughout compared to a lot of their other material - those elaborate leads and solos on "My Little Empire," "Black Dog...," etc. Most of their albums since have been comparatively power-chord heavy for the most part.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:47 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm looking at the tracklisting on the back of my copy of This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours and it's actually incredible how much this is making me not feel like listening to it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:52 (three months ago) Permalink

I always felt SYMM should have been an instrumental, save for the 'chorus' lyrics. Not attempting to lyrically address the enormous subject, just to make a statement. I don't mind the music at all, but those verses are just abysmal.

This thread is making me remember how great Tsunami is. For that reason alone, TIMT can never be my least favourite.

PaulTMA, Friday, 20 October 2017 18:01 (three months ago) Permalink

All of their albums have great stuff on 'em, though. Just so happens that This Is My Truth... has the least amount of great stuff.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Yes, SYMM as an instrumental except for the chorus, that would have been much, much better. When I was 18 I thought they were being clever by (more or less) putting in words that there actually are no words for something so vile. But I grew to dislike those verses quite a bit, "trying and failing to write" sounds like an appropriate assessment.

I'm reminded of the last time I saw them live, James sat down with an acoustic guitar for a couple of songs solo. First, 'A Sudden Welsh Heart'. He then told the audience that he would give us three options and he'd play the one for which we'd cheer the most:
1. Life Becoming A Landslide
2. Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky
3. The Everlasting
Of course, how this goes is that the cheering increased in order, so it came down to The Everlasting. I -do- like that song, but I was incredibly disappointed, it was the least interesting thing for him to play by far.

Valentijn, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:51 (three months ago) Permalink

hate that song so much. life becoming a landslide is one of my fave songs but luckily they played it live when i saw them in 96

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:41 (three months ago) Permalink

Love 'Life Becoming a Landslide' and 'Small Black Flowers...', really can't sit through 'The Everlasting' these days.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 20 October 2017 21:46 (three months ago) Permalink

Holy Bible was my ultimate angst album in high school. To me the lyrics "got it" more than anything like Nine Inch Nails or whatever else, as far as 90s angst music goes.

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 22 October 2017 02:30 (three months ago) Permalink

Maybe Richey Edwards went Heath Ledger Joker, because that's some fucking intense shit on that album

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 22 October 2017 03:02 (three months ago) Permalink

The lyrics to The Holy Bible looked so deep and meaningful when I was in my mid teens. Nowadays huge portions of that album sound really silly lyrically.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 22 October 2017 09:22 (three months ago) Permalink

thread is inspiring me to pick up a bunch of their post TIMTTMY albums, the only ones I've really heard were Futurology and Know Your Enemy. The latter didn't do it for me nearly as much as the former, but i keep seeing cheap copies of a bunch of the others. Journal For Plague Lovers is the most intriguing one.

nomar, Sunday, 22 October 2017 16:42 (three months ago) Permalink

the Europhilia of Futurology makes it a bit of an arm's-length record for me

Simon H., Sunday, 22 October 2017 16:47 (three months ago) Permalink

huge portions of that album sound really silly lyrically.

the bonkersness of this record is what makes it great.

new noise, Sunday, 22 October 2017 17:28 (three months ago) Permalink

the Europhilia of Futurology makes it a bit of an arm's-length record for me

― Simon H., Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:47 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is one of the reasons why the record is so great.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:36 (three months ago) Permalink

Between The Clock And The Bed doesn't half sound like Genesis

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Sunday, 22 October 2017 19:56 (three months ago) Permalink

I don't think it sounds like Genesis at all... which Genesis songs does it remind you of?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 23 October 2017 06:40 (two months ago) Permalink

not a specific track more a feel... the Phil Collins era just after Peter Gabriel left when it still sounded like PG era. Its not a diss though. I like early Genesis

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:40 (two months ago) Permalink

love green’s vocal on that song so much. one of my favorite songs about depression

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 October 2017 17:34 (two months ago) Permalink

I like his vocal on it too, and I hate Scritti Politti.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 29 October 2017 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

That Thailand article xp had the quite brilliant headline Bangkoksucker Blues. The NME didn't even use it properly, they threw it away as the tagline on the masthead

I read it again a couple of years ago. Disturbing as the cutting stuff was, it was striking to me now how prudish the tone was. The band sleeping with groupies was a scandal, and Richey's visit to a brothel ('it was just paid masturbation, really') was like the end of the world. I was aware that we're supposed to have become a more sexualised culture over the past decade, but I didn't realise that we started off as the 50s midwest

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 September 2008 17:56 (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, lighten up, visiting Thailand and going to a brothel, thousands of Western men do it every year, where's the harm in it?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 17 November 2017 14:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Any idea what approach they're taking for the new one? Hoping it's not another attempt at a big rock record.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 23:23 (two months ago) Permalink

idk maybe they’ll nail that this time

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 November 2017 02:39 (two months ago) Permalink

last album their best since EMG i reckon. didn't care that much for the previous 3 or 4.

piscesx, Saturday, 18 November 2017 02:42 (two months ago) Permalink

there's a trailer, the snippets sound EMG-esque

Simon H., Saturday, 18 November 2017 02:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I got this from their mailing list...

"It's the first album to be recorded at the band's new Door to the River Studio in Newport.

Say the band - "The main themes of 'Resistance Is Futile' are memory and loss - forgotten history - confused reality and art as a hiding place and inspiration. Musically the album is obsessively melodic and in many ways references the naive energy of 'Generation Terrorists' and the orchestral sweep of 'Everything Must Go'. After delay and difficulties, the record has come together really quickly over the last few months, there has been a surge of creativity and old school hard work.""

brain (krakow), Saturday, 18 November 2017 10:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Sounds like they were having trouble searching for a direction... either that or it was problems with the new studio.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 18 November 2017 11:47 (two months ago) Permalink

News of this latest album has got me re-listening to Everything Must Go and thinking about that period of the band in general. Just remembering how much 'A Design for Life' just leapt out of the speakers whenever it was played on the radio (which was a lot) - particularly the chorus, which just sounded incredibly powerful. Of course, Richey going missing was still very fresh in everyone's minds - the album was only released the year after he'd gone missing and people were still very optimistic about him turning up somewhere, and I recall a few alleged sightings appearing in the music press.

To say this period must have fucked with the bands heads just a little bit is quite possibly an understatement - up to this point, Nicky and Richey were doing a lot of the press, and now JDB had to start doing a lot more press - and in some interviews from this period, you can see he's kinda reluctant at that stage.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Anyhow, the record still sounds great to me, and I'd forgotten just how much I love the back half of the album in particular - 'The Girl Who Wanted to Be God', 'Removables', 'Interiors' and surprisingly 'Australia' which I thought I'd burned out on, but now sounds utterly awesome - do they even do this one live anymore? They should!

Some of the older Manics fans that were around during the first act of their career were a touch miffed about the band carrying on without Richey, particularly when the album went onto become so successful and the band weren't their secret anymore. Fuck 'em.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 19:34 (two months ago) Permalink

EMG is one of my favorite-sounding rock records - bright, colorful, dynamic. Just the right amount of gloss.

Simon H., Wednesday, 22 November 2017 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't know if "gloss" is the right word, I agree - it sounded OTM to me in 1996 and still does, whereas Generation Terrorists sounded like it had aged rapidly even by 1996 - very plasticy. Amazing to think the record was only four years old by that point, too!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 20:02 (two months ago) Permalink

*but I agree

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 20:02 (two months ago) Permalink

“interiors” is sometimes my favorite manics song

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 23:48 (two months ago) Permalink

definitely go for EMG. Be My Baby drum sounds on the title track elevate it imo

In a slipshod style (Ross), Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:48 (one month ago) Permalink

All songs on Everything Must Go are good to great, right?
I saw JDB on one of his rare solo performances (from when he did that solo album), he included three Manics songs in his set, I remember 'No Surface All Feeling' was one of them - amazing to hear live.

I'm very excited about their upcoming album, seeing as I'd probably name their last one as my favourite & I love both EMG and GT.
It strikes me as a bit strange to have the album title and the cover design revealed as well as all formats it's going to be available in, a whole five months before it's actually out. Can't wait!

Valentijn, Thursday, 23 November 2017 12:02 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm v confused as to wy neither TIMTTMY or KYE are on Spotify (at least in Canada). What if I want to listen to uh "Baby Elian"?

Simon H., Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:03 (one month ago) Permalink

"interiors" is sometimes my favorite manics song

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's a great track - one I often forget about until I'm listening to it and then it's like "why am I not listening to this more often?" ... it would have made a great single, if they hadn't already released four of 'em.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

New single "International Blue" is out. It's not very encouraging, but I don't think they've released an encouraging first single since JFPL

Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 13:40 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

And of course the single has grown on me

The tracklist boasts a mix of promising and uhh less promising titles

1. People Give In
2. International Blue
3. Distant Colours
4. Vivian
5. Dylan & Caitlin
6. Liverpool Revisited
7. Sequels of Forgotten Wars
8. Hold Me Like a Heaven
9. In Eternity
10. Broken Algorithms
11. A Song for the Sadness
12. The Left Behind

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm looking forward to this album. Also, I think they're planning something for the 20th anniversary of ...Truth...?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 16:56 (one week ago) Permalink

"international blue" is great

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 16:58 (one week ago) Permalink

I was reading somewhere recently that they're planning to throw a few Lifeblood tracks into the set for the tour, which of course would be great - 'Empty Souls' alone deserves to be a staple of their set, IMO - but given what Wire can be like in interviews, we'll see.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Also, I think they're planning something for the 20th anniversary of ...Truth...?

I would happily buy a 2cd reissue with the excellent b-sides tbh

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh, to think of the album that could have been - the one with 'Prologue to History' and 'Montana/Autumn/78' on it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:31 (one week ago) Permalink

According to Nicky Wire, there's more from the This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours era in their archives than any other era. Loads of unreleased stuff, apparently.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:37 (one week ago) Permalink

That's not at all surprising, considering how wide-ranging the album material is

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Wonder if there's anything else from the Howard Gray sessions - that's who they should've done the album with.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:48 (one week ago) Permalink

International Blue is a pleasant surprise, I was dreading more Postcards For A Young Man / Send Away The Tigers stodge. Best song since JFPL.

I flippin' love Lifeblood, me. I wish they would announce what rarities they play in advance, like they did with 'Natwest...'. Was denied the WTF moment when I saw them last, when it made an apparance.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 22:54 (one week ago) Permalink

*NOT announce.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 22:54 (one week ago) Permalink


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