good japanese indie stuff?

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anyone have any recommendations for cool, edgy-but-listenable japanese indie groups/artists? surely there must be loads of great bands outta tokyo/osaka/sapporo/etc i don't know of but should! what little i know of already i dig, in particular:

cornelius (starfruit surf rider is a cool little song, and some of his other stuff i like as well)
supercar (though i've only heard a few songs, if anyone has any album/song recomendations let 'em out)
cibo mata obviously

shonen knife and that band in "kill bill" i can take or leave, but i'd give both of them another chance if someone wants to point out a standout album by either of them...

messiahwannabe, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

ps. the ruins are cool but i consider them more "noise" than "indie" but that's mere semantics of course

messiahwannabe, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh! Penelope's 'The Red Balloon' is stunning.

I went through a Cymbals faze back in 2000 or so. Mr. Noone Special was my album at that time especially. Not sure it dated all that great, but still fun.

I'm sure someone will point you to the Shiina Ringo thread, if you're not already in the know.

I downloaded a lot of Chocolat a couple years ago but haven't spent enough time with it to suggest it. Maybe now's the time to pull it back out.

Flipper's Guitar I imagine would be the ILX fave.

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd suggest Asian Kung Fu Generation and Triceratops off the top of my head. Both are fairly straightforward indie rockers.

A more off the wall suggestion would be Limited Express (Has Gone?) or maybe Tokyo Pinsalocks.

Take a look at our blog for a few more suggestions ;)

http://tokyo-music.blogspot.com/

fooel1001, Friday, 29 August 2008 06:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Polysics
Ex-Girl

The 5.6.7.8's singles comp Bomb The Rocks is as good a place to start as any if you want to give them another chance.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 August 2008 08:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Aiha Higurashi from Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her has a new band called Loves. It is excellence.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 29 August 2008 08:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kazumasa Hashimoto's latest album Euphoriam is pretty great, not strictly indie (in inverted commas) it's more gentle and reflective, folktronica stuff.

In-fact, anything on Noble records is great.

http://www.noble-label.net/index.php

MaresNest, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Angel in Heavy Syrup are a great all-girl psychadelic rock band. Some stuff produced by Jojo from Hijokaidan. Thre third album is excellent.

And for Shonen Knife, their self-titled record rules.

gnarly sceptre, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Maher Shalal Hash Baz "From An Egypt To Another Egypt"

ian, Friday, 29 August 2008 15:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

2nd Angel In Heavy Syrup, also Slap Happy Humphrey, a kind of/sort of spin-off. Can't think of anything current.

contenderizer, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nissenen Mondai do a cool "intense kraut"/post-punk thing. But they are a current group and the songs are good.

ian, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

NUMBER GIRL

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

"indie"'s too stifling a word for her but

the Shiina Ringo thread

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

If Buffalo Daughter still around?

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

You might wanna take a look at this thread.

At the risk of sounding like a creepy Japanophile, I honestly think that the Japanese do rock music better than just about anyone these days.

In the above thread I mentioned some bands and why I like them, I don't want to be too redundant so I'll just post some youtube links:

Zazen Boys, one of the bands which rose from the ashes of Number Girl, are pretty much essential.

Sambomaster have three solid albums of fantastic, manic pop/rock under their belt, but their most recent material has been a bit disappointing.

Bloodthirsty Butchers are pretty solid indie-ish rock as well.

Unfortunately, I think a lot of this really good stuff doesn't crossover to US audiences as easily as stuff like Polysics, Boredoms, etc. because it's more "serious" and doesn't fall in line with our stereotypes about "wacky japanese people." It's a shame.

telepathy_rock!, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bloodthirsty Butchers used to be a more metallic/post-hc sort of thing, didn't they?

contenderizer, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well to me that sort of thing falls under the "indie" umbrella...but I don't want to get into one of those hair-splitting arguments about what "indie" signifies...it's like the definition of "pornography"--you know it when you see (or in this case, hear) it. It's all purely subjective, you know?

telepathy_rock!, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Zazen Boys, for example, DEFINITELY do the "metallic post-hc" thing, but then, they also do jazzy breakdowns and weirdo minimalist pop.

telepathy_rock!, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Another thing is that these bands are all moderately successful/popular within Japan. Actual "japanese indie" is probably much tougher to get a hold of over here.

telepathy_rock!, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, in that case, Paintbox! Awesome melodic hc.

contenderizer, Friday, 29 August 2008 16:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

plus-tech squeezebox
flying rhythms
nissennenmondai

Steve Shasta, Friday, 29 August 2008 19:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

nissennenmondai

is it one word? what does it mean?

ian, Friday, 29 August 2008 20:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

"y2k problem"

Steve Shasta, Friday, 29 August 2008 20:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

GREAT band name.

ian, Friday, 29 August 2008 20:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

^They have some nice youtube clips. Wish I got to see them when they were in Chicago for the first Million Tongues event. Nissennenmondai, that is.

Trip Maker, Friday, 29 August 2008 20:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

plus-tech squeezebox

I LOVED them around 02/03 but I never thought of them as indie. sorta post shibuya-kei

and if we're going that route, today, YMCK has a couple tracks in my playlist now. chiptune, but with heavy j-pop/post-shibuya melodies.

capsule too, but they're closer to shibuya-kei

This might be worth taking recommendations from if you're into this brand of stuff:

http://www.last.fm/group/PicoPop%21%21%21

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 29 August 2008 22:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't know if Petty Booka are exactly what you're looking for...

http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/

dlp9001, Saturday, 30 August 2008 00:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

piana has made three lovely records, she's vaguely in the cocteau twins realm and mostly avoids the annoying helium voice syndrome.

keythkeyth, Saturday, 30 August 2008 05:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Rie Tanaka - Raison D'etre (from Chobits)

tony orlando and dawng (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 September 2008 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

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Godmother and Godfather of Shibuya-kei, Takako Minekawa and Cornelius. Get Fantasma if you haven't already. Cornelius's music nowadays is really like listening to music that will be on spaceships fifty years from now. Takako Minekawa is perhaps one of my favorite musicians of all time and any album by her is worth getting, especially the Maxi-On EP.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 21 September 2008 21:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 21 September 2008 21:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Destroy: Maher Shalal Hash Baz. Maybe could pass for "edgy" but certainly not listenable...

Nisennenmondai are really cool, guitars look giant

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 21 September 2008 22:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Chocolat - Like a Starberry

tony orlando and dawng (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 September 2008 22:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Not sure where Momus is, but:

Kahimi Karie - One Thousand 20th Century Chairs

tony orlando and dawng (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 September 2008 22:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Kaji Hideki - Good Morning Call Song

tony orlando and dawng (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 6 October 2008 03:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

what is the feeling here (if any) about yura yura teikoku

thorn, Monday, 6 October 2008 06:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Tenniscoats

milling through the grinder, grinding through the mill (S-), Monday, 6 October 2008 07:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Green Milk from the Planet Orange. More of a live band than a studio band, but amazing nonetheless.

Nate Carson, Monday, 6 October 2008 08:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

the new tenniscoats record is lovely. they ought to have a thread. i think we're edging away from edgy. eddie marcon, two of lsd march, are really great. there's a new nagisa ni te lp, and shogu tokamaru's touring. i trust monorail music for albums of the month with a japanese theme.

schlump, Monday, 6 October 2008 12:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

The new Zazen Boys album has been out for about a month now, and it is bananas:

telepathy_rock!, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.last.fm/group/Japanese+Indie

"Chameleon Man" (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 17:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

what is the feeling here (if any) about yura yura teikoku

love em. especially the live album. "sweet spot" is pretty good but more subdued than I expected, I like when they freak out more

does Nisennenmondai have an album? or a single? I've only heard their track on the first Million Tongues comp

huh looks like they have a couple EPs and a bunch of CDRs
http://www.nisennenmondai.com/discography-e.html

dmr, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 17:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

what is Bump of Chicken considered to be?

the sir weeze, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 18:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

new midori hirano is lovely

keythkeyth, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 02:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Instant Cytron

The New Herb Stempel (PappaWheelie V), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

new midori hirano is lovely

I loved LushRush, is it on the same label, Noble?

MaresNest, Sunday, 21 June 2009 22:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57LboHngkn4

that sounds very cornelius produced, were they "together" at some point? Milk Rock (Cornelius remix) - Takako Minekawa is great as well

also digging Tenniscoats, 坂本龍一 + 嶺川貴子, and supercar is getting even better after repeated listenings

messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 09:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Aside from her first album possibly, everything Takako Minekawa has ever recorded is mindblowingly awesome.

I got a couple of albums by Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her and they were pretty cool. The "17" record is wonderful and stripped down 90s experimental j-rock. They made a LP-length video for it called "Motorhead and Drive Video" and I recently transferred my copy and put a few videos on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHWaOuxyvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_L85N0CrrI

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 28 June 2009 01:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

I know Pale Cocoon through Soft Selection 84, which was a really good cassette comp of early 80s lo-fi synth pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbo4bcl9Jss

Pheeel, Thursday, 26 January 2017 07:22 (two years ago) Permalink

those are great recommendations, thanks!

niels, Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:34 (two years ago) Permalink

love chelmico and their luscious jackson vibe. saw the first video playing on one of the dozens of monitors in truly mind-bending japanese variety store village vanguard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvA1AHKXUfY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yiaAfAb7-0

adam, Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:43 (two years ago) Permalink

ha, those are great

can't find them on Spotify - wonder if I need to spell it in japanese?

niels, Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:48 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah those are nice

a lot of japanese music doesn't seem to be on spotify yet, they only got it fairly recently i think

ufo, Friday, 27 January 2017 00:25 (two years ago) Permalink

I've always like this group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cM7dQUu1VY

JacobSanders, Friday, 27 January 2017 00:28 (two years ago) Permalink

but I think they are from Hong Kong. Sorry

JacobSanders, Friday, 27 January 2017 00:31 (two years ago) Permalink

I used to order from these labels: FlyRec, Rally and Noble. Gutevolk makes nice pop songs.

JacobSanders, Friday, 27 January 2017 00:37 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

The new Gesu No Kiwami Otome is wonderful! This track was already released on an EP, but I can see why they wanted to include it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJdNqxOykw8

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 13:06 (six months ago) Permalink

I only know some older stuff but I love it dearly and still listen to it a ton. 800 Cherries, Corniche Chamomile, Citrus, Sugar Plant. I have a handful of stellar comps that I can't remember the names of right now but can report back on.

Just eat a hamburger, it'll hit the spot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 13:33 (six months ago) Permalink

ahh 800 Cherries there's a band I haven't thought about in a long time <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P9CH55838Y

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 13:43 (six months ago) Permalink

i'm so hyped about the new gesu no kiwami otome, they're one of my favorite bands right now

yesterday i was checking out haru nemuri's first album, i'm liking it, will have to listen more. she put out an ep called "atom heart mother" last year, which i'll also have to check out - just the title is from floyd i think

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 14:10 (six months ago) Permalink

I liked the harunemuri too - need to listen to that again. I only discovered GNKO with the last album, but they've been on regular rotation since - it suits so many moods! I love all their retro organ sounds.

'Youtopia' by You'll Melt More! was a favourite of mine from last year though it's more straight up pop-punk than indie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzc1xhQUlTs

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:50 (six months ago) Permalink

any idea what the lyrics are?

niels, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 18:15 (six months ago) Permalink

Alas, I do not. I was wondering the same thing.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 23:01 (six months ago) Permalink

hmm we should try and recruit some japanese ilxors

niels, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:06 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm just hearing Coaltar of the Deepers' No Thank You for the first time and I had no idea it was going to be this good. I've listened to some of their other albums and loved them, but this is something else. It is the least chilled-out shoegaze imaginable, with liberal death metal interruptions and twinkly emo chords scattered about. It's so insanely great that they've had to pace it out with some little ambient palette-cleansers so you don't get heartburn listening to it.

tangenttangent, Friday, 31 August 2018 10:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Yes that's a great album. I still remember how absolutely caught off guard I was the first time I heard the middle bit of Star Love!

I like YMM too, I think their albums are probably a bit long for what they are but the last track on their 2015 album is fucking incredible. Speaking of alt-idol stuff I've been really digging Sora Tob Sakana over the last year or so, given that they're essentially the new Haisuinonasa (who might be still going? I'm not sure).

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 1 September 2018 13:59 (six months ago) Permalink

Also while I'm at it, this is one of my albums of the year:

https://kikuo.bandcamp.com/album/kikuo-miku-5

Not sure how much appeal it has around here but if you want odd electro pop fronted by a piece of software Kikuo's got your back

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 1 September 2018 14:32 (six months ago) Permalink

wow that Kikuo Miku album is bonkers. it's not really my thing (often too carnival-esque) but still fascinating.

I haven't been keeping up with Gesu no Kiwami Otome but they're usually enjoyable so I'll check out their recent stuff.

my favourite japanese album this year is of Wednesday Campanella's Galapagos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_epnF4YjQo

ufo, Sunday, 2 September 2018 05:12 (six months ago) Permalink

That Kikuo album is great. Like OPN at a computer games circus, with sweet vocals.

tangenttangent, Monday, 3 September 2018 08:38 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm listening too. It's pretty crazy!

imago, Monday, 3 September 2018 09:11 (six months ago) Permalink

Unfortunately, I think a lot of this really good stuff doesn't crossover to US audiences as easily as stuff like Polysics, Boredoms, etc. because it's more "serious" and doesn't fall in line with our stereotypes about "wacky japanese people." It's a shame.

???

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 3 September 2018 14:28 (six months ago) Permalink

That crazy talk

MaresNest, Monday, 3 September 2018 15:22 (six months ago) Permalink

the biggest difference is that Polysics and Boredoms both actively sought out US audiences by signing to US labels and Zazen Boys never have

ufo, Monday, 3 September 2018 16:03 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, distribution in the West and a bias towards singing in English are the main factors, see also P5, Cibo Matto, Plastics, Sadistic Mika Band, YMO, Buffalo Daughter and so on.

MaresNest, Monday, 3 September 2018 16:13 (six months ago) Permalink

Enjoyable listicle thingy -

https://overblown.co.uk/top-20-japanese-albums-of-all-time/

MaresNest, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:58 (six months ago) Permalink

Long Season is great and all but it's really overrated compared to Uchu Nippon Setagaya which is the real best Fishmans album

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:06 (six months ago) Permalink

but I'd never heard of Quruli and the blurb there sounded very promising so I gave a few tracks a listen and they're pretty great so I'm looking forward to diving in

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:28 (six months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icCgF5UFoNo

this rules so much

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:45 (six months ago) Permalink

that song is great, quruli are also new to me. i was disappointed by the list not containing pale cocoon, but then i saw there was a list of 20 more. but pale cocoon isn't on that either!

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:16 (six months ago) Permalink

That’s a bizarre list that could only have been put together by a foreigner

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 06:11 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah obviously it's pretty pretentious to call it the Best Japanese Albums Ever but i'm thankful for the Quruli rec from it, i'm loving Team Rock a lot

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:10 (six months ago) Permalink

That’s a bizarre list that could only have been put together by a foreigner

― F# A# (∞)

the fact that it's in english probably a giveaway there

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:40 (six months ago) Permalink

listening to the kikuo album now
this is super fun

nxd, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 08:19 (six months ago) Permalink

one of these days I'll start a Mitsume thread, they are my fav japanese indie stuff for sure, vibe is similar to Real Estate, but they're super precise and effective in their playing, here's their latest jam:

https://open.spotify.com/album/66wH8kDC79uNWsphS5OM8p

anyone recommend a spotify list to follow/shuffle?

niels, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:30 (six months ago) Permalink

oh fuck how did i miss quruli getting mentioned in this thread, unbelievable band

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:49 (six months ago) Permalink

incorrect number girl and supercar picks on that list imo

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:51 (six months ago) Permalink

(i prefer num-heavymetallica and futurama respectively, but also every number girl and supercar album rules so why am i even complaining)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:51 (six months ago) Permalink

i thought there was a japanese band called "incorrect number girl"

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 September 2018 00:01 (six months ago) Permalink

xp thanks will check it out!

niels, Thursday, 13 September 2018 08:29 (six months ago) Permalink

co-signing Wed Camp and Gesu No Kiwame Otome.

liked this from earlier this year, reminds me of a more laid-back Studio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORo2y4pQnY

the always enjoyable Paellas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buabL8wjMmQ

Roz, Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:18 (six months ago) Permalink

another band i really like is Sakanaction who are basically the proper dance-rock band I wish Bloc Party had turned into. i think they're supposed to finally release a new album later this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I25AFSBm2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Maq09mKVnQ

ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:28 (six months ago) Permalink

Sakanaction rules! My favourite band of the past five years at least - seeing them at Summer Sonic two years ago was some of the most fun I've ever had at a festival. tried and failed to get them on the EOY 77 several times lol.

"Music" is basically an early-to-mid 00s indie dance track and its own Jacques Lu Cont remix at the same time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVstp5Ozw2o

Roz, Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:42 (six months ago) Permalink

i also enjoy the fact that a band as outre as sakanaction are considered a huge mainstream pop act in Japan, with endorsements for everything from beer to space robots.

Roz, Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:54 (six months ago) Permalink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_(band)

Heard about Toe after they had just played a DC show that I missed.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:18 (six months ago) Permalink

one of these days I'll start a Mitsume thread, they are my fav japanese indie stuff for sure, vibe is similar to Real Estate, but they're super precise and effective in their playing, here's their latest jam:

https://open.spotify.com/album/66wH8kDC79uNWsphS5OM8p

― niels, Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:30 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


really like this song

ciderpress, Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:32 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Just got around to listening to Quruli - it's amazing!!

tangenttangent, Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Listening to Piana's _Snowbird_ this morning, came here to ask if she'd followed up her three albums with a fourth. Did a quick search first, though, and yes! _Muse_ out in 2014, available on Bandcamp. Will be downloading tonight myself, but FYI for any other fans.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 7 January 2019 18:16 (two months ago) Permalink


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