Oh! 6 volumes of from-the-vaults 1970s Gottsching! But where to start? I'm particularly interested in tracks that rely on sequencers. Proto E2-E4 stuff or Club Cannibal, you know? But please say any and everything you want about these.
― elan, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Lotus Lotus Lotus
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
all of it all of it all of it
― winston, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
in time. right now, i need to balance it with other things.
― elan, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link
disc by disc, then
― winston, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Man I'd have to say "Ice Train" from Correlations has become my #1 jam of late 2008.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 December 2008 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
everybody go download "le berceau de cristal" by ash ra tempel and then come back and thank me for telling you to download it.
― Manclusion (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 December 2008 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
I want to hear all those private tapes now. But they seem to be out of print.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 December 2008 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
manuel gottsching's magical hand position
hand positions so good he had to use it for two separate album covers
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 17 October 2009 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
― guammls (QE II), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
the album "correlations" is amazing, like their disco record! just came across it on spotify today.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:00 (nine years ago) link
"oasis" from that is one of my favorite gottsching tracks
― blank, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:39 (nine years ago) link
I had not seen this before - Ashra, Spanish TV 1981
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:10 (nine years ago) link
That same user has also uploaded footage of Ashra jamming with Neuronium from the same show, but I haven't watched that yet.
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:13 (nine years ago) link
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:18 (nine years ago) link
was this posted somewhere else? i've seen it pop up here and elsewhere unrelated on the same day! (how chill are they btw? admirable.)
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:53 (nine years ago) link
rvng intl tweeted about it, looks like it only went up a few days ago, so yeah, it's "doing the rounds"
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:15 (nine years ago) link
o_O Wow, I am totally unfamiliar with Neuronium but this jam session is pretty great. Also, I'm realizing now that I've never actually seen Ashra performing before.
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Monday, 17 September 2012 20:47 (nine years ago) link
cool... the reggae bit!
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:28 (eight years ago) link
just a phatic post to note that after not having played e2e4 for years, and after never having liked it quite as much as i thought i would like it, today it is perfect
― disconnected externalized and unrecognizable signifying structure (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:09 (six years ago) link
i wish i knew more about this project:
― feargal czukay (NickB), Thursday, 6 August 2015 06:16 (six years ago) link
oh duh, oren tweeted a link - it's an australian festival performance. i am sufficiently unlikely to go to this that i am spared having to deal with my conflicted feelings about the involvment of ariel pink
― feargal czukay (NickB), Thursday, 6 August 2015 06:22 (six years ago) link
some good tapes
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:03 (six years ago) link
What essential tracks--if any--are missing from this collection, for those of us without a spare $500 to collect all six volumes?
― Wimmels, Friday, 27 January 2017 22:03 (four years ago) link
"sausalito" is rad correlations style funk rock
"schwerer dino" is superb spacey slow burner
full 20+ minute "deep distance" take is good
same with longass "shuttle cock" take
"soiree academique" is epic spacey noisy jammage
full length "lotus" is good
― a but (brimstead), Saturday, 28 January 2017 01:07 (four years ago) link
Thanks! Will check these out today. I'm in a mood.
― Wimmels, Saturday, 28 January 2017 14:12 (four years ago) link
― mookieproof, Saturday, 18 March 2017 02:39 (four years ago) link
Why did no one tell me Correlations sounds like a prototype for The Division Bell?
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:15 (two years ago) link
glad I have these on MP3 but it is very frustrating that they remain out of print as CDs.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:23 (two years ago) link
(xp) Because they didn't want to discourage from listening to Manuel Gottsching's music?
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:47 (two years ago) link
somebody pleeeeeeeaze reissue these
― sleeve, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:36 (one year ago) link
fucking hell i never even knew about "correlations" - and there's a five cd box set of recording sessions for it? this is my jam for sure, top notch disco shit, i like this _way_ better than tgottsching's ambient stuff
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:28 (one year ago) link
it's so fucking good, enjoy
― sleeve, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:36 (one year ago) link
so this is vol. 4 on youtube
pretty great so far
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:48 (one year ago) link
one of my all-time fav tunes is "77 slightly delayed" which i've found leads into a disappointing album experience w/ "blackouts" since it's all downhill from there imo
any suggestions of where to find this magic elsewhere in the ashra / MG catalog ?
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:51 (one year ago) link
I'd suggest New Age of Earth but I love all of Blackouts so that that as you will
Was hoping this revive would be an announcement of Private Tapes reissues. Of course when they do that it'll be something stupid like 7xLP vinyl deluxe box sets
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:04 (one year ago) link
sadly true, also they'd split the long tracks between LP sides which I can't stand either
brimstead called it upthread with "Deep Distance", "Shuttle Cock", and "Lotus"
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:10 (one year ago) link
for the record i gave a quick listen to the box and here's my picks:
begleitmusikdeep distancele bruit des originesultramarinehausaufgabe
live stuff from the disco band is kinda disappointing to me tbh
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:26 (one year ago) link
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:26 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
These are all great choices but - call me a philistine - I wish he'd broken up "begleitmusik" into discrete tracks. There are some beautiful pillowy floating drones in the middle but I don't always have the patience to find them inside the 25 minute piece (which, as far as I can tell, is pretty randomly assembled rather than being an actual suite of related tracks). I don't remember if there are others like this, should revisit, but that one sticks out
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 21 May 2020 18:40 (one year ago) link
I much prefer his ambient work. I recently listened to the first 4 Ashra albums and made this very satisfying playlist:
Sunrain (New Age Of Earth)Ocean Of Tenderness (New Age Of Earth)Deep Distance (New Age Of Earth)77 Slightly Delayed (Blackouts)Midnight On Mars (Blackouts)Shuttle Cocks (Blackouts)Ice Train (Correlations)Oasis (Correlations)Morgana Da Capo (Correlations)Kazoo (Belle Alliance)
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 21 May 2020 18:46 (one year ago) link