dude based on kingdom come/american gangster + various scattered verses i think "C+ rapper" is being generous
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link
im too lazy to troll you right now but lets be honest
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:38 (fifteen years ago) link
also i dont think i want to have the "jay-z isn't that good anymore" discussion on ilm again
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link
for serious though this track is pretty weak
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link
yep xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:41 (fifteen years ago) link
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lol i had completely excised kingdom come from my memory already
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
thx for reminding me jerkstore
jockin big hoos jockin big hoos
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link
btw so is this kanye's "a milli" rip?
buh? just ima hustler x 99 problems with swizzy/rocky mania switched for (weirdly leaden) 80s minimal.
totally tedious tune.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Better than I expect from a late-era Jigga single.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link
knowing the way kanye obsesses over really popular and margin-pushing songs that he doesn't make (esp rap songs), i wouldn't be surprised if this was influenced by "a milli", in the sample and the bass (very un-kanye) and just the structure of the song in general
it definitely doesn't sound like anything he's been doing lately
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't really dig this.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link
RIP
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link
OMG only listened to a minute, but it was really good!. i skipped ahead, though, and i'm not sure that beat really holds up w/o some manipulation for 3+ minutes.
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link
lol at this dude still being butthurt over Gallagher zings four fucking months on. Noel OG has moved back onto zinging "spotty herbert" indie bands again.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link
like a good parochial. dude being butthurt = dude understanding tabloid culture sells, especially in some places.
i think jay told us all a couple years ago that he's very comfortable being a "C+ rapper" - no more interest in flowing futuristic - and some of us are very comfortable with the same
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link
like me and my best friend Michael Bloomberg
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/531814162_0d8fb2c8a6.jpg
i can't wait for the wedding
Did he get Rev Run to rerecord his one line from "Dumb Girl"? That's pretty cool.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Masta Ace at least got a "featuring" credit when he did that on "Drivin Down The Block"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm at work and can't listen to this so I'm officially taking off from even saying anything about this. Hater's holiday, y'all.
― some dude, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nurshad/silky_johnson1.jpg
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
the tempo and the hook remind me of bounce more than anything. the guitar gets a little annoying.
― Jordan, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
bounce the rap subgenre or "Bounce" the Jay/Kanye song from Blueprint 2?
― some dude, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
bounce
― Jordan, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
this is okay. i would have said good but i say the VH1 Soul making of Reasonable Doubt documentary thing last nite so i now have a crystal clear memory of how awesome he used to be....goddamn it was sweet, sauce money and jay in the studio breaking down verses from bring it on....so dope. premo and jay breaking down d'evils. unreal.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay just got the news on the new LP. The Tracklisting on the internet is completely false, with the exception of possibly Most Kings but even that has been changed as Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song. Kanye West produced the entire album with a sound that combines the best of Kanye, Swizz, and Dilla. Think about how Swagga Like Us has the vocal sample with the Swiss Effect, the drums of Dilla by not being on some straight up boom boom bap sound, and the Electronic/European sounds of the keyboards used on the swagger joint.
Timbaland originally said he was doing the album, at which point Kanye flew to Germany to meet up with Jigga, gave him one beat cd with fifteen or so joints on it and after that it was a wrap. Kanye then flew to Hawaii where Jay was working and from there they knocked it out. The sound is not Love Lockdown so don’t worry about that. It’s more about some hardcore Hip-Hop with a bit of Hardcore Rock and Electronic. It will definitely satisfy the heads while appealing to the eclectic cats.
As far as now there are no rapping features on the LP, but Cee-Lo Green of Gnarls Barkley is singing the hook on one track. Another song about Brooklyn features Santi White aka Santogold, an up and coming artist out of New York. Kanye sampled one of her songs and Jay then brought her in to redo the vocals. While other producers have been trying to get their work on the album the sound that Kanye is bringing is so different from what he has been doing that its damn near impossible to get anyone who is matching the same sound without them hearing what he has been doing.
I think from the news that I got is that he is gonna change the game again with the sound of this album, and while that has been said before remember Jay has already done this at least twice, once with the bling sound of the Neptunes and again with the original Blueprint.
http://pleasedontstare.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/the-overstanding-on-the-blueprint-3/#
― vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
wow this might be the most spectacular mess of all time
i cannot wait
― poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
it's probably just be a regular mess
― Jordan, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
it'll
It’s more about some hardcore Hip-Hop with a bit of Hardcore Rock and Electronic.
yeah you're right, this probably doesn't mean shit (no sarcasm)
― poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
It’s more about some hardcore Hip-Hop with a bit of Hardcore Rock and Electronic. = possibly pulled verbatim from an old Kid Rock press kit.
― David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Possible blueprints for this release:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Kottonmouth_Kings_Fire_It_Up.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/3281325556.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Waste_of_MFZB.jpg
― Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
The Black Album 4
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Jay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay songJay gave Chris Martin the original verse for a Coldplay song
o_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
― vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Cee-Lo Green of Gnarls Barkley
smmfh
― vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah and also "the Swiss Effect"
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
imagining drums made from clog samples
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
also can i take this opportunity to say that i hate hate hate ye jocking "swiss"
― vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
why does jay need to co-opt mia and santogold...he's like an aging rock star
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm sure it's Kanye grabbing their records for samples and Jay just nods and goes along with it.
― some dude, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
that fake tracklist was pretty hilarious, btw. "The Audacity Of Dope"!
1. That's Me (ROC Intro)2. Connected3. Strawberry Letter [ft. Cee-Lo Green]4. No Words5. Swagga Like Us Pt. 1 [ft. T.I., Kanye West and Lil' Wayne]6. Jockin' Jay-Z (Dope Boy Fresh)7. Turn Around8. Swagga Like Us Pt. 2 [ft. Nas, Andre 3000, and Young Jeezy]9. The One [ft. Santi White]10. Blueprint 311. I Don't Care12. All in a Day13. Big Hat Club [feat. Kanye West]14. Jay's Tribute (It Takes Two)
― and what, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
13. Big Hat Club [feat. Kanye West]
tell me you're srs
― vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
has there ever been a more DOA HISTORIC COLLABORATION than jay-z and nas? he should have faboloius on slu pt. 2 instead
― poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
jadakiss
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i just think that would be cool.
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
if the only possible point of the whole misbegotten franchise that is SLU is assembling the highest possible level of starpower (and please let Pt. 2 have a different beat), then obviously they're not going to put Fab or Kiss on it, dudes. it's not like Khaled or Statik Selektah isn't around to put those guys on hella posse cuts anyway.
― some dude, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess the main issue is that jay-z is on both versions
― poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
the real issue is that we're talking about a fake song that doesnt exist
― haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DyffCOVjwQ
remember when it felt actually affecting
― deej, Thursday, 24 December 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sET8An5XL._SS500_.jpg
― pugwant (The Reverend), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513RTusNv-L._SS500_.jpg
smooth jayz
― autotuna fish (Tape Store), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder sometimes if there is a smooth jazz scene. like, do dudes get together and groove on grover washington records and talk about starting bands? do they argue about whether chris botti is really smooth or not? what's the pitchfork of smooth jazz?
― an american hippie in israel (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
wow forever young is so horrible horrible horrible i could only stand about 30 seconds into it. is that sting?
― Body Butter (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, you don't remember 90210's David Silver?
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
I don't like that "Empire State of Mind" Pazz and Jop Single of the Year song.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Having to review "Young Forever" has reminded me that I haven't totally transcended the feeling of absolute hatred for certain pieces of music.
― Tim F, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
also who the fuck is that "mr hudson" dude?
― El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
It just appalls me that any piece of music from someone who was ever once good could be this gratuitously bad. Why didn't they even bother to autotune (in the pre-Cher sense) the chorus?
― Tim F, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
if christ martin is david lee roth than mr hudson is kanye's personal sammy hagar
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
hahah christ martin u_u
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
also then*
i haven't heard "young forever" and don't plan on it
I had avoided until now and was happier for it.
― Tim F, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i've noticed it lurking in the charts and have been avoiding too - mr hudson sounds like an actual tramp
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
― Tim F, Monday, February 15, 2010 2:08 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest
DOA duh
― average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
would love to hear that his singer is out of tune bcuz jay specifically refused to autotune in a bout of self flagellating rockism
― average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
no we will NOT autotune i don't care what he sounds like
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"young forever" is awful but there's at LEAST five worse songs on the album iirc!
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah...i'm already starting to get pretty sick of "Onto The Next One," i guess anything that feels like a breath of fresh air in the context of Blueprint 3 would be a fart anywhere else
― the cold bieber open (some dude), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
and fuck that autotune cuz we OOOooooooon
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, January 4, 2010 12:05 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
every time i hear this part i think wow, whiney considers this a quotable 'hot line'
― the cold bieber open (some dude), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
i pretty much dig "on to the next one" tho
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link
the only hot line in "on to the next one" -- "niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums" -- is undercut by the fact that it's spit on a song from the blueprint 3
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i would rapidshare them if i hadnt already bought them
― average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
kids want my old shit, .rar my old albums
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i give up. I love jay-z and even found a lot to like about blueprint 2 even though it has a lot of crap on it. but i flat out just don't like blueprint 3. lyrically it's...bad. even the production pales in comparison to the original, but I have not been able to finish this album since the first 3 listens.
― Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah...honestly this album makes Kingdom Come sound good
― dora the explaro (some dude), Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i even tried listening again on Friday after taking several months off to see if maybe itw as a "just wasn't in the mood for it at the time" but nope. the flow sucks, the lyrics suck. and yet it got fairly good reviews, which surprised me.
Even "Run This Town" is a bit neutered - kinda pop rap like T.I. (whom I like btw), but it would have been a lesser song on The Blueprint.
ohw ell, guess I'll stick with listening to Freeway and Tech N9ne...
― Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/19454.jpg
kings on set
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 1 July 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
big hat club
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
jay still plays young forever at his live shows, so embarrassing
― We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link
I dunno if it's a staple of every tour, but last summer w/ Justin they closed with it as a dedication to Trayvon which was very oh fuck you're trying to make me feel bad about hating this song now
― The Greta Gerwig In The Sky (some dude), Thursday, 20 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
― The Reverend, Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha i made a big hat club joke about pharell on the grammys and some dude was the only one who said anything about it :)
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 March 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
the other day i was listening to Shaq songs on YouTube and a one with an old school Jay guest spot came up and sometimes it's shocking now to hear old Jay, he was SO GOOD, like he fell off so incredibly hard
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 March 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link
not gonna deny dude got worse and the fact that RD/BP/Black Album are cited like they're his only dope albums '96-'03 is irritating but I always dug this the most out of post-retirement Jay. then again I haven't listened to it in forever
― nova, Friday, 21 March 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link
the other day i was listening to Shaq songs on YouTube
Yo Shaq! Where ya at?I'M OVAH HERE
― Neanderthal, Friday, 21 March 2014 05:13 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8BvC0PNpI
― slam dunk, Sunday, 23 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
I take a little while...Bought this a year ago used, got around to playing most of it in the car a month ago, finished yesterday. Didn't get much of anything out of it, except for "Already Home," which I played a few time today. Pretty music, and when you're married to Marilyn Monroe and hang around the president, "They want me to go/I'm already gone" would ideally be the last line you ever write. But I guess he kept going.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 July 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
Big Hat Club!!!!!
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 July 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
Big Hat Club vs. reapah! brbrbrbrbrvdb
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 January 2020 01:38 (four years ago) link