best nu-andre 3000 verse

This is "Royal Flush" for me, but I'll rep for "Walk It Out", IPA, and "You" (although lulz at him rapping about hitting on the cashier at whole foods)

"IPA" all the way, with "Throw Some D's" a distant second. "Royal Flush" doesn't really have enough payoff to justify 40-something bars, and a lot of these are full of moments that annoy the fuck out of me (especially "Walk It Out" and "What A Job").

your white tee to me
looks like a night gown

3 stacks don't fuck around, if he wants to wear a nightgown he just wears a nightgown

I like his verse on Goodie Mob's Black Ice:

Friends romans countrymen lend me your eardrums, it was a beautiful day up in the neighbourhood
Yellows and greens and blues and browns and greys and hues that ooze beneath delapidated wood

"nu-"

geez I only know like a third of these, guess I haven't been paying attention. What is Royal Flush from, is that a leadoff single or something for a soundtrack or what...? (I know that one and I voted for it, just curious)

"What a Job" is kind of boring and overrated in general.

xp: supposed to be from Big Boi's solo album

Big Boi is on some battered wife syndrome shit for real, "I'm always underrated and outshined by my partner, so I'm gonna drop this solo album...oh, and the first single features him and he spits so many bars that by the end of the song you forgot I'm even on it"

yeah, that's weird to me, too, but I think RF might have just been a leak

yeah, i think the official single is the one w/ Mary J., I think I heard it recently and it sounded pretty good.

I'm always underrated and outshined by my partner

I don't think this is true at all fwiw - Speakerboxxxx was waaay better than Love Below, but I guess it didn't have the ginormous single on it so maybe you have a point. And really wtf has Andre been doing since all that half-assed shit on Love Below: that cartoon, a few guest verses = eh whatever. Got That Purp Vol II otoh is killer.

'the way you move' was pretty fucking big

yeah but Hey Ya was EVERYWHERE

i'm not saying Big Boi isn't good or doesn't get his respect, but c'mon you can't argue that Andre isn't way more famous and acclaimed overall.

I'd just like to point out that BB's verse on RF is killer, too. Rae's is kind meh tho.

yeah, that's weird to me, too, but I think RF might have just been a leak

-- The Reverend, Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:44 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

no, it was pressed as an official 12" w/ art and everything

also you are crazy re: raekwon, most listenable verse on the song

but c'mon you can't argue that Andre isn't way more famous and acclaimed overall.

is he? I thought the general consensus was that the Love Below was a bit of an unfocused mess (which it is)

don't get me wrong, i don't trust anyone who thinks that bullshit was better than Speakerboxxx. i'm talking about in terms of media profile and general rap canon bullshit (i.e. Andre making the top 10 of that stupid MTV lists the last 2 years and BB not being mentioned in either).

!!! did not know that

Taking Sides: Andre 3000 vs. Big Boi

rae sounds like he's on autopilot

Walk it out.

lol ``
somedude';

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wooooooow

lol shakey only in the ILM universe is big boi accepted as the better rapper than andre

"but big boi only talks about pimpin...3 stacks talks about real creative shit like SPACESHIPS"

lol ``
somedude';

this shit is depressing

https://soundcloud.com/therealandre3000benjamin

roughness of the vocals aside, I...kinda like "Look Ma No Hands"?

I like these.

these are also apparently half a year old?

new album on Friday (no verses)

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/14/1212661071/andre-3000-album

Possible new "infamous reviled album that was subsequently reassessed and found to be great" incoming.

idk i think this “flute-heavy instrumental album” might not be an enduring classic

i'm looking forward to it

idk i think this “flute-heavy instrumental album” might not be an enduring classic

― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, November 14, 2023 7:31 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I laughed at your joke and then I clicked the link.

Huh.

The track titles!

Looking at the track titles at least he is self-aware and has humor about releasing an instrumental flute album.

On the bass, Derek Smalls

He wrote this

the track titles have sold me on this, tbh

Man it's too bad that this will becomes a punch line for most people, he's just out here aging as gracefully as humanly possible.

that one Key & Peele sketch has a lot to answer for

i love that interview and i already hate how this will be received as a prank

who knows if it will be good, but honestly i think the worst case scenario (given the very able people playing on it) is some solid if slightly anonymous floaty jazz stuff

it's not a prank, he's following his muse. like he said says in track #1, "this is literally the way the wind blew me this time"

the tracklist:

01 I Swear, I Really Wanted to Make a “Rap” Album but This Is Literally the Way the Wind Blew Me This Time
02 The Slang Word P(*)ssy Rolls Off the Tongue With Far Better Ease Than the Proper Word Vagina . Do You Agree?
03 That Night in Hawaii When I Turned Into a Panther and Started Making These Low Register Purring Tones That I Couldn’t Control ... Sh¥t Was Wild
04 BuyPoloDisorder’s Daughter Wears a 3000® Button Down Embroidered
05 Ninety Three ’Til Infinity And Beyoncé
06 Ghandi, Dalai Lama, Your Lord & Savior J.C. / Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and John Wayne Gacy
07 Ants to You, Gods to Who ?
08 Dreams Once Buried Beneath the Dungeon Floor Slowly Sprout Into Undying Gardens

is this self-released?

herbie mann's artier outing "the stone flute" is so good - killer lineup - sharrock, ayers, ron carter and more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwY75gziVIQ

yes that album totally rules

Spell check doesn’t like herbie apparently

― Heez, Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:26 AM

heriberto hancock

i like Herbie because he likes to lie

Rumor has it that the next album is recorded . Its in the same jazz improv “genre”, but Andre is doing vocals over it

rapping? or is that too much to hope for

if that's true,
i would assume he'll be doing a kind of spoken word thing. "spottieottiedopaliscious" with noodly beatless backings.

and if that is the case,
fuck that fake big rube bullshit. GIVE US THE UNRELEASED BIG RUBE ALBUM FROM 1997 YOU COWARDS!

if no one has yet gathered, this whole thing has been one of the most anticlimactic things in my distant memory and i'm trying to have a good attitude about it. my disappointment is pretty significant tho.

This album is fine. I don't know what people were expecting

the ability to play his instrument beyond a very novice level.

like if this was one of those pandemic era pay-to-stream live performances and they just noodled it out as a one-time thing, fine. that would have been cool to see him!

but idk, to actually make a record out of these improvised jam sessions feels sorta cheap. it's not even clear what he's doing most of the time. i mean he's always been a greenhorn instrumentalist, but on the old records he at least sounded proficient and practiced.

okay, okay... deep breath, good attitude

it has brought one of the big musical philosophy questions back to the forefront of my psyche lately - what's worse: bad music or boring music?

Did anyone like his clarinet feature "My Favorite Things" on The Love Below? It was the first thing I deleted from either of those records.

you know, halfway... very long sigh.

i have so many thoughts about that. that song was the first thing i thought of when i initially read the album promos; nah, i never thought it was anything noteworthy. but who cares, music isn't just music, it's business and it gets very messy. the best summary i can come up with is-
andre is incredibly intelligent. he understands the power of pr and he respects his elders.

never read a single review on love beliw that didn't mention it tho. new album, same sorta deal.

i know there's a lot going on in that post, but...

...just. idk man. we have to live our best lives. no one defines our own standards except us.

-because i am selfish-

i wish he didn’t need to keep his standards so fucking high and just drop another fucking five minute verse. just one last time. come on man. you're already anointed and certified forever. nobody likes gloating, but enough time has passed that a victory lap could never be seen in bad taste.

and i literally don't care. make the whole rap about the stupid fucking flute.

OKAY, OKAY.... GOOD ATTITUDES, PLEASE

There’s absolutely no example of a rapper pushing 50 at his level of skill and popularity releasing anything and not having all of social media call them washed or ass

I even think the late era Jay Z and Dr Dre and Eminem and even a lot of Cool J stuff is perfectly serviceable and decent and everyone acts like they are the recordings of the Jonestown massacre

and there's absolutely no example of a lot of things in hiphop... until outkast started making records.

he's capable.

and i'm here for it.

i will try to have a attitude in the meantime.

a good attitude of some sort, even.

also, whiney re:that-
yeah they kept making mixed-to-decently received records. the difference is: they never really stopped. andre has purposely and intentionally fucked off. again: that young man's brain was constructed incredibly well.

(what about snoop? he had his questionable no limit period, but came back stronger than ever. of course he always has has a bit of a novelty, prankster vibe so he can pull off whatever tf he wants forever and ever afaic.)

Yeah, Snoop and Busta are in that E-40 lane of just endless decent stuff that people stopped paying attention to 15 years ago

I guess that Tribe album was a good example of how to do it right, but then Tribe never had Number One pop hits

xp board was all in the revenue retreivin series when it was out. Go ILM!

the recordings of the Jonestown Massacre were mostly dubstep

Black Thought is 52, and he seems more beloved and respected than ever. But I guess the Roots are an outlier for lots of reasons.

i'd say the anticipation for a proper roots-less black thought solo album reached its fever pitch around phrenology and has been waning ever since to the point that now even people like me (read: lifelong fans) are kinda like, "huh ya i guess that would be cool."

He just had that Danger Mouse record that was well-received, but definitely a trad old heads record.

Killer Mike and El-P are both 48 though.

oh don't get me wrong— black thought ranting about how fucked up and perfect everything is and how much he misses j dilla and malik b in 2023? count me tf in.

Did anybody but me listen to the Busta Rhymes album that came out yesterday?

busta probably listened to it a few times.

Oh that’s why Busta was trending on Twitter.

unperson, how's the album? does he say any swear words? i bet he does.

Black Thought has a lot of interest now, that famous Flex freestyle really put him in the goat conversation

that Dangermouse record is the worst of his recent stuff because it's produced by Dangermouse

all 3 Streams of Thought albums are better

he came out and did a verse on "Johnny P's Caddy" with Benny the Butcher that got a lot of burn on Twitter, he's at the top of his game right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9M7g77cF0I

So I learned about this on Open Mike Eagle's podcast series w/Questlove - when recording Do You Want More, they made this medley where Black Thought impersonated all these rappers in voice and style, but it didn't come out until a couple years ago. Ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbf7XpbFt0

damn he's good!

New Busta has some nice moments but is far too long and mostly forgettable, being bloated with guests

Haven't listened but I'll take any chance to post this track from his previous record that chops up 'Poison', love the raw edit/mixtape feel, rhythmically it's wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBBZFL0jzYw

"force of nature" could have been invented to describe busta

is that roots' track really from the "Do You Want More?!!!??!" sessions? The track starts off with vocal samples from "things fall apart" and a song from the hurricane soundtrack

re-reading what you wrote maybe the vocal tracks were from that era and the track was put together later

That Busta song is sick

I want a whole album of Busta over fractured old school songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5J3VUC9qM

is that roots' track really from the "Do You Want More?!!!??!" sessions? The track starts off with vocal samples from "things fall apart" and a song from the hurricane soundtrack

― intheblanks, Monday, November 27, 2023 11:09 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

re-reading what you wrote maybe the vocal tracks were from that era and the track was put together later

― intheblanks, Monday, November 27, 2023 11:10 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

According to Quest it was a hybrid, the vocals and most of the tracks were done in '94, but he re-did some of the drums (and obv added some other bits) in 2020.

his Guru impersonation is hilarious

somehow the very idea of a perfectly executed Guru impersonation is fun

well wait just a second, if this was the prank, i'm kinda... for it now?

Credit where due...?

Flashback to August 2013. Buzz shows off his prized wooden flute to Andre 3000 backstage at an Atlanta Melvins show. Coincidence? pic.twitter.com/aSyKshzhcu

— melvins.com (@melvinsdotcom) November 30, 2023

I almost RT'd that