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I realise that it's about 8 years too late but there's nothing on these crusts on here. Bassist formed Weakerthans?

"Mate Ka Moris Ukun Rasik An"

seriously - buy it, download it whatever

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 16:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

No really!

It's a recommendation

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 16:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sadly, damned again by faint praise.

Gorge, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's great isn't it Gorge?

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

They're touring right now AFAIK, my friend went to the Toronto show on Sunday.

Finefinemusic, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Less Talk an all-time favorite

J0hn D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 17:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

"okay, this song is called 'resisting tyrannical government'... and it's about killing elected officials as a viable option for social change-- well, it's also a critical analysis of it..."

dylannn, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Great band. Weakerthans also great.

Marty Innerlogic, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Awesome band. I like the old stuff just fine but their last one, Potemkin City Limits, came outta nowhere for me. Really great record.

Simon H., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks to Concrete Blonde and the Northern Pikes for not being punk bands so nobody will know where we stole our riffs from.

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

one time i was 1q2 i awalkted into the record shop discman aznd i was like proppa gan die i was embarreaseed when he told me it wasnt called like that

usic, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

X post

Excellent.But you survived?

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Any of you pleasant enough to help an old lady?
Recommendations similar to Propagandhi?

Promise I will reciprocate with recos beyond Crass

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was never an all-the-time Propagandhi fan or anything but what I always liked about them was the fact it was really hard to get a handle on them. They had (have?) this incredibly clean sound that makes everything sound like metal riffs, but no way would you ever mistake them for a metal band. And their lyrics are unbeatably sardonic and self-reflexive/self-qualifying but there is absolutely no question of them not being serious about the stuff they talk about. In both these respects they are a lot like Dead Kennedys, but they don't sound like the Dead Kennedys. The more I type the more I sound like a superfan! But I'm not. I just like some of their tunes and the way they roll generally

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

DKs -' Moon over marin' was an 'asswuppa'

soz - listening to Discharge. me head's gone

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

ska sucks.

ian, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Embarrassed myself earlier with my delayed Career Suicide thread.

Equally cringy about my Propagandhi thread esp. when some coont damned me with faint praise, faint praise.

I've improved my brain by delving back and buying 'Potemkin City Limits' which was released in 1963.
It's great.
More on the metal tip than 'Today's Empires.....' but still.Excellent.

Listen kids. I'm not a trendy kid anymore. And never was.

I'm hungry for this

Fer Ark, Friday, 12 September 2008 21:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

fuck religion

Chelvis, Friday, 12 September 2008 23:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

band is just really great. every album enjoyable. I would rather be preached at than bored.

J0hn D., Saturday, 13 September 2008 00:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is one band I've always wanted to check out but never have. I have no problem with preachy punk, I fucking love Crass & Conflict etc. I think the thing that put me off with these guys is the similarity with NOFX-ish 90s melodi-core but I know there's more to them than that.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Colonel. Start off with 'Today's Empires...'
It's melodic but not in that shitty way you reference.I'm talking seriously good melodies and playing.The lyrics aren't too bad but they're secondary to me.It's all about the music
To me there's not a duff track on the album. Those tracks that are weaker are elevated by at least one musical section in the song. There's some seriously good hardcore in the mix too

Their questionable name put me off- for years. Stupid me.

I bought 'Potemkin City Limits' second . At first it was too 'metal', but it's a real grower.

Fer Ark, Saturday, 13 September 2008 07:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Any Propogandhi fans care to reco me some more?

Something is telling me it could be a bridge too far?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 13 September 2008 08:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

i used to love these dues in college and i love them again

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

best band ever in the history of ever

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

best band in the history of ever's new record is streaming on facebook (?) (!)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:11 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

they're playing dc in a few weeks, i'm stoked

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 October 2012 03:22 (five years ago) Permalink

new record is very good but i find myself wanting for grounding melodic moments (see "potemkin city limits" and "human(e) meat" from the last record)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

i'm listening to potemkin city limits now and its hitting me how much this is like a prog-punk precursor to some of fucked up's more recent stuff. is that a connection people a lot of other people have made?

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know Fucked Up but Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got

tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:44 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i hadn't paid a ton of attention to it before, but i'm really digging it right now. the layers of melody and shit. great.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got


emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Nothing Fucked Up's done can touch that record imo

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Well I mentioned it cause listening last night I kept thinking of David Comes To Life, particularly all the really gorgeous layers done at such a high energy level.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess the reason i wouldn't necessarily make that connection is bc of how much later propagandhi is about straight up thrash metal, which there aren't many traces of in the proggy fucked up stuff (which is still very much about hardcore)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

full confession i was p blazed and listening to 'a speculative fiction' when this comparison occurred to me, and i'd been shotgunning the early records for the last year or so til putting PCL on for the first time in years the other night, so i think the contrast was just in search of an anchor.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 14:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i think it's a neat connection to make tho! i just had never thought of that before

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 14:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Starting to think Supporting Caste is every bit as good as Potemkin City Limits. So many amazing riffs and moments.

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:02 (five years ago) Permalink

i like it sliiightly better. think it's their best record honestly even though you know less talk more rock 'til death

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Nardwuar just played an 18 year old interview he did with them on his radio show. Should be up for podcast later.

everything, Friday, 31 July 2015 23:27 (three years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Goddamn, this is some powerful stuff.

Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Friday, 6 May 2016 00:42 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

New record Victory Lap is out and sounding very promising (not to mention *very* different from Failed States).

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 29 September 2017 17:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

"Single moms to the front, we came here to rock!"

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 29 September 2017 17:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Album of the Week and a nice writeup at Stereogum

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

new album is among their best. love that these guys are still pushing their sound forward e.g. “lower order”

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 October 2017 13:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah it would feel like a transitional album except that they're always in transition these days towards some never-complete ideal, which fits with the increasingly tortured, conflicted lyrical content

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 1 October 2017 14:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i don’t have a kid but the last song on this record makes me *weep*

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

it hasn't supplanted "Without Love" as most emotionally bruising Propagandhi song but it's mighty close

also "A Lower Order" is probably their best animal rights song

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

wild in a catalog that includes "purina hall of fame" and "nailing descartes to the wall" but i agree

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 12:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

After 15 years I saw them live for the first time. They were incredible and I'm gonna stop myself there. Setlist was very similar to this one:

except with the additions of "Adventures in Zoochosis"(!) and "The Banger's Embrace." I could have used a few more Potemkin/Caste tunes but beyond that it was a pretty inspired set.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:22 (eleven months ago) Permalink

man. that setlist is perfect

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Jealous. No Chicago tour dates.

Jeff, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

my shitty high school hardcore band covered "Fuck the Border" so that was particularly delightful, and of course "Back to the Motor League" is one of the greatest songs ever written and it was great to be reminded

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

aaand now I'm thinking that Victory Lap might be their best overall, pound for pound. I can't seem to tire of it.

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 20:55 (ten months ago) Permalink


ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

the "what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all" thread made me look this thread up and now I'm excited to check out Victory Lap

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 20:47 (five months ago) Permalink

potemkin city limits is my favorite

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:09 (five months ago) Permalink

every Prop album is good but PCL really was a brilliant expansion /reinvention, even though I think Caste and Victory Lap best it

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:10 (five months ago) Permalink

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