Kylie Minogue: Classic or Dud?

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Well? Vertically-challenged talentless Aussie slapper or better than a good date with Britney Spears?

Ally, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I can still remember that "I Should Be So Lucky" song better than I can the "Loco-Motion" remake. And I like what I remember of it as well. And, unlike her ex-beau Mr. Hutchence, she's never been found dead as a result of a bizarre solo sex game, though I can understand how that would elevate her in some eyes.

Hmm...maybe not a classic, but no dud. I mean, when it comes to vertically challenged Australians, better her than those Silverchair rugrats. Although maybe they're tall now.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm gonna say Classic because of how much better she is than all the recent Classic or Dud choices. (Thanks, Ally, for saving us from another difficult Eggnoodley Commie Anti-Music or Eggnoodley Commie Anti-Music question.) I've only heard five Kylie songs - "I Should Be So Lucky", the cover of "Loco-Motion" which I also can't really remember, the murder-by-the-river duet with Nick Cave, "Spinning Around" and "Your Disco Needs You" - but I'll take them over all the Royal Trux albums I just sold.

She's definitely too small though.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Although totally dud for me, she was clever enough to churn out commercial poop again. I hope her clothes are sold on the basis of how much they weigh. It'll only cost her a few pennies to dress like a successful Traci Lords.

my fool name, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud. Not really for the songs which are just okayish pop songs, but more for the endless obssesion of the British music and lifestyle press with her. She isn't *that* interesting.

Omar, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I would say Dud because she reminds me of lasses with perms, Danniii,'Especially for You', Streetfighter and 'The Hitman + Her'.

I would say NOTADUD for 'Confide in me' and that video where she gets naked in a Barberella stylee.

But not classic

Geordie Racer, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Not absolutely a dud, but overrated. Really really overrated, the pop equivalent of GYBE or someone in terms of overratedness. Her various reinventions have been plodding, generally, and "I Should Be So Lucky" isn't even much good. The recent return-to-pop stuff has been weak, on a level with Geri and Emma Bunton, not even as good as Louise's comeback singles. That said once she became the biggest thing in the SAW stable she got some of their choicer songs - "Better The Devil You Know" for instance - so it's not all bad.

Tom, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think some of the SAW singles are classic, especially "I Should be so Lucky" and "Shocked". But everything else is extremely iffy. Not bad, but just not lovable. Her latest singles try to recapture the spirit of the SAW era, but there's none of the enthusiasm there. I thought "Spinning Around" was lifeless. I really couldn't categorize Classic or Dud. There should be a middle ground of "Eh" in there somewhere...

Nicole, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll answer my own question now (and yes, Otis, I'm always good to ruin the indie bent of this board): classic, but I think if I was coming from the other 8 billion countries where Kylie is considered famous it'd be a different story. As it is, she's absolutely nothing in America, so it makes her feel underrated for me. Your Disco Needs You is one my favorite singles going right now.

Here's a question: a lot of people I know who classify themselves as pop fans don't particularly care for Kylie, while a lot of indie fans I know overrate her. Did her Nick Cave/Manics collabs ruin her for the pop set with her annoying "realness"?

Next up has got to the Traci Lords: Classic or Dud, except I fear I'm the only person round here with her album ;)

Ally, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

tom, you really love throwing around that "(genre) version of gybe!" comparison. ;)

fred solinger, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I know, it's crap, isn't it. I'm feeling really groggy and ill today so I wasn't up to thinking of another overrated band except for GYBE ;) Beck maybe.

Tom, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard she's gonna do an episode of Neighbours! Probably Madge's funeral...Her songs were okay. Now, she is like one of those Chris Evan's guest people...so pretty dud.

james edmund L, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh, your mention of Madge reminds me that Mike from Neighbours is actually kicking Charlene's ass popularity-wise in the States.

And deservedly so, since Memento is much more fun than anything Kylie has done lately.

Nicole, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's got to be a question of perspective (geographically, anyway). In the UK, I can see how she'd be an "eh," as you guys get more than your fill of her songs and her appearances and her social life...but here in the U.S.? ZILCH. We got to see "Loco-motion" on MTV a few times way (I mean WAY) back when, had to hunt down a domestic release of "Confide in Me" before it disappeared forever, and have been desperately slapping every single from "Breathe" (fantastic) to "Your Disco Needs You" (genius) on homemade mix CDs so that we can get the word out that she's still alive and still making music and still at least somewhat deserving of an audience in the States. So count your lucky stars if you're sick of Kylie--I'd love to be sick of her. Classic all the way--in the U.S.A.

Max Jones, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there a law that all Australians must be in Neighbours at some point in their lives?

Ally, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yep! Neighbours has produced so many popstars...Steffan Dennis, Craig McSomething (Henry), Jason Donavon, even the twins released a single (I think). Who will be next?

james edmund L, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Even arch-smuggo Clive James appeared in it once.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Kylie Kylie Kylie: DUD! DUD! DUD! She is so shit. completely awful apart from two moments of brilliance: "I should be so lucky" and "Where the Wild Roses Grow". Everything else is sooooo bad. And this rebranding of her as some kind of sex symbol is laughable - does anyone find her attractive? She's like a porcelein doll, not a human being. She'd probably shatter. Gah.

PihkalBoy, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I think "Where the Wild Roses Grow" is easily one of the most overrated songs of all time. It's the 2nd worst song on Murder Ballads. It was just a stunt duet -- gimmicky and tacky. As far as Kylie duets go, even Kids is better. And I say this as more of a Nick Cave fan than a Kylie fan.

Nicole, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah yes, the singing budgie. Classic because who knew budgie's could sing? The longevity of her career is more perplexing than Madonna's. Her early hits are all shite, albeit catchy shite, recent hits unremarkably bland. Redeeming features: (a) "Better the Devil You Know" - excellent single, even better video, (b) on-going propensity to fall out of her clothes, though I can't say I fancy her, but I appreciate the gesture, and (c) giving Nick Cave ONE redeeming feature by singing with him. Plus I liked how said duet's video had the (unwitting?) appearance of a Timotei shampoo commercial, Kylie walking wistfully through the grass with the sun in her hair, etc.

AP, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I must be the only person who actually liked the Impossible Princess album she did before she decided to go full-fledged pop again. As mature artistic makeovers go it beat the living shit out of Ray Of Light. Now Kylie's bigger here than she's ever been really, but everything I've heard off Light Years has left me cold, like it's all a dispassionate attempt to make the SAW/handbag equivalent of "classic pop".

Tim, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No, Tim, I like that album too, unfortunate I can't get a copy of it anywhere.

On the attractiveness front: I've always found her terribly UNattractive, actually. I never understood that. I like her for her music and NOWT ELSE. She just looks a bit...I don't know, nostrilly and she's very, very tiny.

Ally, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Would concur with Tom on her being overrated, but what's interesting to me is why she's overrated and how that came about. It always seems to me that she's liked by people who value "timelessness" in chartpop, the opposite of my / Tom's approach, so for us the fact that "I Should Be So Lucky" et al could have been written in 1969 or now just as much as in the late 80s is a reason to be wary of her (the early 90s were, as Tom hints, her best period). There's a tendency to praise that aspect of chartpop while denouncing the genuinely ephemeral stuff as "trash", while for me the more of-the- moment chartpop is, the more points there are in its favour; hence why the greatest SAW singles for me are Mel and Kim's Yuppie Trilogy and, of course, "I'd Rather Jack". By comparison Kylie's stuff of the time is "classic" in the worst sense.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
I think her new video is nearly perfect, the dancing on it is really good. It's like dancing is being constantly alluded to! What kind of a triumph is that? I like the men dressed like Kraftwerk, and the background which is like Metropolis. I like the 'nostalgia for the future.' I like the car, I had a toy car exactly like that, it was my favourite because the doors opened upwards. I like the way her body is all perfect and symmetrical, as if it were computer generated. I like to think that she was airbrushed neatly in photoshop. I like the white dress that doesn't matter if it gapes open, because her body is completely false. Now that I reread this, I feel I'm giving too much credit to Kylie herself. I don't respect her more because of this video and song.

maryann, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
While I try not to delude myself into believing me to be an oracle of popular culture,I do know for certain one thing.If someone claims to be an artist,they should be capable of producing evidence of thatclaim.If I say I'm a painter,you'd want to see my..paintings.If I'm a singer you'd wnt to hear me sing etc etc.Now here's where the Pro-Anti Kylie thing comes in.As most Pop music is now produced through "Production",Smoke and Mirrors, one doesn't need to have artistic merit to be successful.Just an unshakeable belief in yourself and an unquenchable desire to be noticed.It seems most of the "artists" who appear in todays glossies seem to fall into this category.I always try to make the distinction between Artist and Celebrity.To be fair to Kylie she a classic CELEBRITY.But as an Artist she doesn't of course register on the scale.

Garry, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Well I used to like Kylie - when I was about 10. Now I cant stand her. I too think she is completely overrated. All she can do is flash her bum, which has recently became a lot more pert. Mmmmm..... And her lips and her boobs and her personality, I reckon are one thing and one thing only - FALSE!!!

Years ago she did not have big lips. Her right eyebrow did not touch her hairline like it does now, it was actually lower than the left one if you look at pics! Her boobs miraculously grew when she was seeing Micheal Hutchence, and her bum doesn't have a crease on it!!! Every bum has creases when you stand up. I dont rate her music either. I agree Better than the Devil you Know was OK, but her recent efforts such as at the Brit awards when she had her ar*e hanging out again, she wanted to be 'cool' by mixing her song with Blue Monday. SOoooo wasn't good.

She is an overrated, plastic, old tart who wants to get some clothes on and give women dignity, not make them look like they are gagging for it. Hopefully she'll go BACK out of fashion, AND SOON!!!!!!!

Felicity, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

She has a wonderful body but sadly only her mouth makes music.
If Im actually supposed to like her singing then shes a dud, if your comparing her to Spears shes classic.

Mr Noodles, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Put Yourself In My Place is absolute classic. as is the title track to Light Years..

Wyndham Earl, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think she looks beautiful, like a sculpture. I was a bit disappointed when I found out some was plastic surgery but then the plastic surgery-d parts are the dumbest - she could have done okay without the lips and breasts, I mean, it's the shiny smooth skin I think. She has also made her music kind of 'match' herself; I mean, it's superficial and shiny and surfacy. She is like a perfect package. However, I don't actually understand how it's possible to be like that. It's quite disappointing seeing her on Top of the Pops, when strands of hair come loose and she's wearing leather and you can see the grain.

maryann, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

kylie's great singles that have already been mentioned: confide in me, put yourself in my place, shocked, better the devil you know

kylie's GREAT, CONSTANTLY OVERLOOKED single: what do i have to do?!

kylie overall: classic. since when has it been about 'artistry' and 'singing'? i'm shocked that this stuff has come up.

minna, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

More proof of how much criticism can be disarmed by becoming a Gay Icon. Every lapse of taste can be explained as ironic, self- consciously cheesy or deliberately camp. Critics who would normally be contemptuous of such mediocre talent are frozen by fear of appearing unhip or looking like they "don't get it".

Naomi, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't know anything about Kylie until early this year and I think she's scary and fabulous. There's this part where she shrieks in "More more more" that sends chills down my spine.

Honda, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm convinced Kylie isn't a real person, she looks like a hologram.

that's what i want - hologram pop stars.

Wyndham Earl, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

jem to thread!

geeta, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"I didn't know anything about Kylie until early this year and I think she's scary and fabulous. There's this part where she shrieks in "More more more" that sends chills down my spine."

YES!

It's amazing how Kylie jumped from my bad books into my good books with such a minute shift in style from the last album.

Tim, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

late Kylie is like late Bolan ergo CLASSIC

she's even become the cover of Siren

Paul, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

late Kylie is like late Bolan

not referring to the music
rather the persona

though some of the music (both's) is rather fine...

"..move on up, ya move on back
ya laser luv is like a ..heaartATTAACK!"

Paul, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
People seem to be comparing The Minogue with Britney Spears. Personally, I think there's no comparison.

Both of their music style's is of course not their own, but Britney has this 'thing' about her that makes you want to watch her. She does actually look like what she does in the photos. And when people go on and on, criticising her about wearing skimpy stuff - we have to remember she is only 20 and has to entertain. However, Kylie is nearly 34 and is still prancing around like an old slut with her plastic, pinned up arse and nobody says a word!!! When are the papers gonna see sense and slate her for the old tart she is!!! She is revelling in all of this attention she is getting, and its about time it stopped! OK, Spears is rumoured to have had a boob-job (and propbably has), but when do you see them hanging out of her top, like the goofy- toothed dwarfs??? Those pics from her Fever tour are ridiculous. Her boobs are pushed up sooooooo much, you can see the plastic popping out of the flesh!!! And have you noticed that there's not a smile from the pop- pixie? She is just looking down on herself, revelling in her plasticness. I dont know, I think the country has been brainwashed. It was that song 'Cant get you out of my head' that done it. It must have had some kind of subliminal message saying "MEN: You will all adore Kylie - she is the perfect image of woman; and WOMEN: You will all not care that your men fantasise about Kylie every night in her hotpants, you must love her and want to be her".

Well, I think I must have been one of the few that escaped her propaganda tactics!

Is there anybody else out there??????????????????

Felicity Collinson, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

calling kylie minogue's breasts "goofy- toothed dwarfs" = best post ever

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm worried about the idea that breasts have teeth.

Ally, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ilx like totally sux0r now!!!

Ron, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't Get You Out Of My Head is classic, and one or two others have been goodies too. I don't have much idea how much credit Kylie deserves for these or how much blame for the awful, awful ones. She generally looks cute, though that hardly makes her stand out from several hundred other pop stars.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I'm really obsessed with the title track to Light Years all of a sudden. Hello, my name...is Kylie. I will be...your person - what the hell does it even mean? It's great.

Ally, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i bought the 'rhythm of love' cd recently, because of 'what do i have to do'... but it's only driven home how great 'better the devil you know' is. i love the synthesiser male back up singer bits:

kylie: "i'll take you back again"
male synthesiser 'oh' noise: "oh oh oh oh oh"
kylie: "i'll take you back again"
male synthesister 'oh' noise: "oo-oo-oh...oo-oo-oh"

i wonder what he's trying to say?

minna, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

'oh'

 

Josh, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's also not often-mentioned that Kylie is also CLASSIC for that rapping diva in "Shocked". And also CLASSIC for the poncey dance-in-beret that Kylie does while said diva is in command of the song.

Tim, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

She's getting very credible if the Kid Kreme and Erick Morillo remixes of her new single are a sign of credibility and since Subliminal Records are so good then I think they are.

Ronan, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Being also vertically challenged, gotta go for classic, though "I Should Be So Lucky" should be shredded as a definite cringe-maker.

Thank god she got rid of the bad perm and reinvented herself....

Nichole Graham, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Put it this way;like her or love her,would you have her sing at your Wedding?

Garry Coe, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

A little POO! (in honor of Keiko) --> "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" [Blue Monday Remix] - That one's a classic. Dud: Didn't she do that "brand new dance" the "Locomotion" ... ? I could do without that song.

Tim DiGravina, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sorry I even pointed it out. I'd just finished listening to the segment when I came over here and wrote about it, mainly because I was shocked that it even happened (also, that one "fuck y'all" twitter reply to the Crooked Media post was mine). I think Keep It has a large audience, but other people here are right that almost no listeners will hear that and then click over to Pitchfork and find out what they're going on about.

Stan culture is absolutely repulsive to me, and it only seems to be getting worse. I don't even know if there's a way to put it back in the bottle at this point, and it infuriates me.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:38 (one week ago) link

I listened to the Keep It segment and it's even worse/worthless than I expected and the bar was low

1. v telling that Ira declines to go into detail on criticizing Scooter Braun beforehand and then immediately decides to punch down at Katherine

2. didn't even address a single point in the review other than the score

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:55 (one week ago) link

"the score is low and white women aren't allowed to listen to this album by a white woman"

lol

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:56 (one week ago) link

that one "fuck y'all" twitter reply to the Crooked Media post was mine

(suspected this but didn't want to doxx you :) )

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Thursday, 19 November 2020 02:28 (one week ago) link

I doubt they actually read the review.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Thursday, 19 November 2020 02:30 (one week ago) link

I'm so sorry this happened katherine. I can assure you that you did nothing wrong and the people attacking you are completely out of bounds.

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:58 (one week ago) link

It’s worth remembering that even if you do everything right, some internet rando will still senselessly hate you for it. There’s no such thing as being universally liked, and that’s ok (this is what stans refuse to accept btw). Anyway, Kylie’s music has never been my cup of tea but that was a good and informative review.

pomenitul, Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:14 (one week ago) link

have listened to the podcast (1st time ever), they mention nothing but the rating itself... I assume @katherine you are a serious pop music critic, while this podcast is some pulp, immediate blah blah blah content to listen to when jogging or cleaning, so honestly - even if one can find it amusing - this is like apples & oranges. hence do ignore this shit and keep up the good work!

and getting back to the review itself - i agree with sooo many points and arguments of katherine's review, but this won't change the fact that I'm spinning this record to death and yes, on paper it could be (and potentially is) 'worse' than roisin, jessie or dua, but its only kylie who can pull off a song with such a corny intro as supernova, making me tremble with embarrassment at the beginning, and then hijack with her delivery or chorus that im singing while writing now and leaving me breathless in the end. just like any great party that I came late to, i.e. everybody is drunk already, im thinking: what is wrong with these awful people?! and in 30 mins im sweating with the rest on the dance floor.
(plus some of these songs like 'real groove' are objectively a-mah-zing!)

krewki, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:57 (one week ago) link

this struck me during the Folklore fiasco but pop stans getting mad at pitchfork reviews will never not be mindboggling to me. and they get mad when pitchfork doesn't review their faves' records too! there's no pleasing them.

like, your faves will do just fine without p4k's validation, guys. 

Roz, Friday, 20 November 2020 06:29 (one week ago) link

I’m surprised to learn that Kylie even has these sort of stans. I wasn’t aware she had that sort of rep.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Friday, 20 November 2020 06:51 (one week ago) link

Same.

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 07:17 (one week ago) link

fever is one of the greatest pop albums of all time, of course she is going to have the same cult of stans as every other pop star, even if 'cult' needs to be emphasised a little more for her than some

ufo, Friday, 20 November 2020 07:20 (one week ago) link

Fever came out 19 years ago, and the new audience it brought in was, speaking broadly, gay American males (compared to her previous moderately-gay-male-leaning UK and .au general public). It seems counterintuitive that a feverish hate-mail writing stan culture is made up of 40-something blokes.

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 07:49 (one week ago) link

there are plenty of younger, mostly gay male, fans who make up those stans because she's really that much of an icon. it was only 2010 that she really last had hits in the uk and australia. madonna still has stans! it doesn't seem that weird as far as stan culture goes to me.

ufo, Friday, 20 November 2020 08:12 (one week ago) link

I also thought most of her stans would be gay which is why I was surprised to see one of the ones tweeting at katherine has also tweeted homophobic slurs and has a link to a "reparative therapy" site on their profile (possibly another Briscoe Cain type I guess)

groovypanda, Friday, 20 November 2020 11:01 (one week ago) link

One of my teenage students asked me if I had heard her latest album. I guess she's still picking up fans

Vinnie, Friday, 20 November 2020 14:05 (one week ago) link

I actually had the "don't worry, I don't think she has stans, you'll be fine" / "yes, she does" argument before it went up (not with an editor)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:36 (one week ago) link

It seems counterintuitive that a feverish hate-mail writing stan culture is made up of 40-something blokes.

can i introduce you to "men"

maura, Friday, 20 November 2020 18:30 (one week ago) link

like... have you never been on reddit

maura, Friday, 20 November 2020 18:31 (one week ago) link

actually it's about ethics in disco revisionism journalism

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 20 November 2020 18:45 (one week ago) link

I'm coming around to this album a little bit. It does sound pretty same-y along with the other recent releases listed above (Horse Meat Disco, Dua Lipa, etc). A lot of different acts that used to sound different seem to have converged to this style.

skip, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:31 (one week ago) link

my experience of going on reddit is: aspie-adjacent podcast listeners politely apologising to each other if anyone misunderstands someone else & downvoting sexism; and Am I The Asshole? readers telling people that they absolutely are the asshole, and they don't deserve their girlfriends, mothers' love, or to have a cat.

can i introduce you to "men"

point absolutely taken on my wording. but in my head, the sort of stans who brigade with hate mail were primarily teens-to-22ish with the combo of too much energy, and insecurity. 44-year-old gay men who loved Kylie when they were 12 or 25 have had plenty of experience of her putting out 6/10 albums with a few generous 8/10 tracks in the five calendar decades that she's had UK #1s!

huge rant (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 19:36 (one week ago) link

gonna have to repeat Maura's "like... have you never been on reddit" here

DJP, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:48 (one week ago) link

You guys talk like going on Reddit is something that healthy-minded people do. Been on Parler lately?

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:00 (one week ago) link

a good number of people on this site go on RYM, which is basically /mu/

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:11 (one week ago) link

All ILXors should sign an exclusive contract that forbids you from visiting other websites.

pomenitul, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:14 (one week ago) link

There's other websites?

Dan Worsley, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:21 (one week ago) link

So they say, and they’re *bad*.

pomenitul, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:24 (one week ago) link

i thought this was google

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2020 21:04 (one week ago) link

gonna have to repeat Maura's "like... have you never been on reddit" here

my answer will remain the same as in the post you're replaying to!

huge rant (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 22:21 (one week ago) link

okay I looked at the Kylie reddit and the top threads are:

- Hi fellow kylie lovelies - I am loving Disco Tv on YouTube and thought you all might like it too - it’s a wonderful mix of all of Miss Minogue’s fabulous videos (including lyric videos for the Disco album) has really cheered me up and hope it makes someone else smile 🥰

- When she was on the Voice (photo)

- Kylie Minogue Breaks Down 17 Looks From 1988 to Now | Life in Looks | Vogue (youtube link, 1 reply)

- Disco debuts at 25 on the Billboard 200, her highest-charting U.S. album since Aphrodite (5 replies wishing she would tour)

- Kylie Minogue - Blame It On The Boogie [Mike Walsh Show 1987] (youtube link, no replies)

- Spotted in Sydney this morning (photo of a flyposter, 5 replies asking where the cassette is sold)



not an argument against there being absolutely horrible subreddits elsewhere but this is even less enthusiasm than I'd have expected, let alone any negativity

huge rant (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 22:35 (one week ago) link

*tips fedora at maura*

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 20 November 2020 23:35 (one week ago) link

In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.

pomenitul, Friday, 20 November 2020 23:40 (one week ago) link

Do Gaga fans go HAM over mixed reviews? I think of the Little Monsters as peaceful.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Saturday, 21 November 2020 00:58 (one week ago) link

this critically-acclaimed nu disco thing reminds me of griselda

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:54 (one week ago) link

endless RIYL slots enabled by genre specific playlisting

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:54 (one week ago) link

members of all 'stanbases' are fully capable of stooping to horrific lows, and indeed do so somewhat regularly. while yes the contingent overall skews gay, male and young, plenty of these folks are supposedly grown up too! pretty horrifying

dyl, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:06 (one week ago) link

I don't see why people are surprised grownups can do this, has anyone ever met a republican, or one of the adults who sneers at people online for morally neutral things they find embarrassing

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:36 (six days ago) link

basically, have you ever met a human being

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:36 (six days ago) link

I can honestly say I’ve never known anyone IRL whom I thought had the capacity to launch personal attacks at a writer over a music review.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:45 (six days ago) link

pretty sure critics are real and daft and mean

also i dunno what's the problem are you worreid the world will misevaluate a Kylie record>?

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:48 (six days ago) link

also lol keeping a score keeping a score

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:48 (six days ago) link

I can honestly say I’ve never known anyone IRL whom I thought had the capacity to launch personal attacks at a writer over a music review.

― down like 6:30 (morrisp), Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:45 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

no offense but you're on this board, so you do

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:46 (six days ago) link

maybe that doesn't qualify as IRL but there are many people here who have personally attacked me over my opinions about bands or my "insane" way of listening to music

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:47 (six days ago) link

I might say Noodle Vague is insane for laboriously relistening to alternate mixes so many times that it's slightly dragging out the results of the MC Tunes poll, but it's just out of admiration for his process

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 22 November 2020 09:15 (six days ago) link

this was specifically saying that my preferring to not listen to music that makes me feel bad is an "insane" way of listening

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 22 November 2020 19:54 (six days ago) link

what kind of music makes you feel bad?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 November 2020 21:02 (six days ago) link

generally it involves lyric

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 22 November 2020 21:03 (six days ago) link

as in the lyrics make you feel bad because they're offensive?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 November 2020 21:07 (six days ago) link

I think this album is good and I'm sorry people are terrible, it's just a review. :(

PS Supernova is def the best track here.

KevRus, Sunday, 22 November 2020 23:15 (six days ago) link


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