Royal Trux : Classic or Dud ?

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or just an inbetweener ?

ALSO - what about harmelodics - who needs that as a justification for playing watchawant whenyawant ?

Accelerator - I think everyone loved it cause it wasn't total shite like the previous albums

Geordie Racer, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

DUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I used to like Cats n' Dogs. NEVER liked Twin Infinitives (also known as music for posers rockstar wannabe junkie art school drop outs) and, even though I thought the "aerosmithy" later album was listenable, I got bored of them. Now, I get nothing out of Cats N' Dogs except annoying attitude from self-absorbed, self-destructive, overgrown brats that think not taking showers is cool. That Aerosmithy one, though (with Ray-O-vac) is STILL okay, but rarely do I think to put it on. They annoy me. Yes.

, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

probably dud, but only because their albums are overlong - the last song on veterans of disorder (forget the name) is about 7 minutes of pretentious guitarwank which the world could have done without. i remember reading a press clipping sounding really impressed that this was neil hagerty's longest ever solo. however, at other times, they do sound on fire, it just never quite gets going enough. jennifer herrema (sp?) is, however, the coolest woman in rock. without a shadow of a doubt...

Bill

Bill, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

So very in between. I have only heard everything from Thank You and later, except for Twin Infinitives, which I didn't like at all and eventually sold (and it wasn't because it was too noisy.) They have a handful of really, really great songs ("I'm Ready," "Stevie," "Yo Se!") but all the records I have are about half tracks I skip. I get annoyed by Herrerma's singing, though I realize most people consider her some kind of rock goddess (could it be because she is beautiful?) But no way could I say either classic or dud, I'm afraid.

Mark, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

->> Erm, I love Neil Hagerty's guitar wankery, precisely on songs like "Blue is the frequency". He is a remarkable wanker.

RTX will never be classic, but it certainly isn't dud. It's one of these cult footnotes in rockunroll history. Certainly not compulsory listening, but definitely worth investigating if hard drugs, dirty hair and space boogie usually interest you. Although I have "TI", "C&D" and weird live stuff, I confess I seldom listen to them. I mostly play their recent stuff, with "Thank You" remaining their highlight. Along with the now much-scorned "Give out but don't give up" by the Scream Team 94, "Thank You" is one of my alltime fave pastiche records, a proper pop record by a duo of brilliant songwriters who rarely before had released songs as straightforward. I think it's a good thing when a band reknowned for its "difficult listening material" comes out with a set of proper tunes with hooks and a high level of "hummability". The opening cut, "A Night To Remember", is in my mind comparable to such songs as the Stones' "Rocks Off!", the aforementioned Scream's "Jailbird" and "Rocks", Suede's "Metal Mickey" or Bowie's "Watch that Man". You know, songs you play before going out (a category of songs I love, I'll post a thread about that). And that's how I like my RTX: fast rockunroll with a blond cat on a hot tin roof's raspy growl telling me I'm gonna lose.

And if your girlfriend finds your Scruffy Jenny obsession suspicious and/or maddening, then she is not a woman for you, mate.

Mr Herrema, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I like them, but still have yet to get everything in my usual compulsive way. That's probably because right now I'm more interested in buying up every last No-Man related release, for instance.

My favorite moment of theirs is from that video of theirs where Jennifer acts sexy and semi-flashes the audience. It made no sense at all, it was the visual equivalent of "Pick 'em and Flick 'em" by the Melvins. *BOUM...BOUMMMMMMM...wheedlewheedlewheedle* Er, anyway.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Best rock band ever. But I've said that in almost every thread on ILM ;) 'Twin Infinitives', 'Royal Trux', 'Cats & Dogs' and 'Accelerator' are bona fide classics. And everyone probably loved Accelerator because 'Liar' has the greatest riff ever. Needless to say a typical love em or hate em band (never sing in sync, Neil plays too many notes, Jennifer is the strangest sex symbol in pop history, erratic live shows). So Supa CLASSIC!

Omar, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I think they are just slightly worse than a Yo-La Tengo live performance (ie the Garage 1998) so pretty noisy and tuneless.

james edmund L, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

God, that was short Omar ;). I was expecting an essay when I saw this thread. Classic anyway, although I only have "Thank You" which is fantastic. Great, great, guitar sound. Anyone heard Haggerty's solo album?

Dr. C, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hahaha...well if you could collect all the words I've written on Royal Trux on ILM you would get that essay ;) I can't be arsed to climb on a soapbox anymore and start praising a band that obviously is not to everyone's taste. The negative outcome of this c-o-d comes as no surprise since I've only met 3 people in my life who love Royal Trux, 2 who worked at the same record-shop I'm a regular customer of (and not counting the ones who where at the blinding gig they once played in Amsterdam, probably all critics ;)

Omar, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
I remember when I just didnt get Royal Trux. They were so way out and Jennifer usually just stood there and smoked and didnt say/sing a word while Neil shot his wad on guitar. It seemed all made up at the moment and straight out of a bong to boot. It was 1993 when I got to see them three nights in a row in Chicago at Lounge Ax for a Drag City festival. They played the same 'list' every night but in TOTALLY different ways. They were deconstructing their own music and songs with little to no effort. The songs remaned the same but the forms were totally different, as if there was a subconscience map they were following. It totally blew my mind. They were HUGE! The totally burned. They were Blue Cheer. It was amazing. I have seen them in the last few years and they seem to have locked into a loud boogie blues rock thing that seems pretty simular from night to night. Maybe the drugs DID keep them open ended and hungry.

Mark, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Official RTX lore says they were not on drugs in '93. More recent relatively-straight boogie rock phase was, I reckon, to do with the rhythm section who played on the final few tours and the 'Pound For Pound' LP. But Jen and Neil were still doing crazy shit!

joel, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
Yeah, I have recently seen Neil play with his solo band and he is defiantly back to the open-ended crazy shit. Two drummers, both almost totally unaware of each other.. And a stand up bass that never really cut through the mess (and by mess I mean 'good, crazy, wicked mess). It took effort to see his genius during the live show that is more evident on the LPs. Check out the Drag City Super Sessions LP where Neil takes the helm over his songs, Smog’s' and Edith Frost's. His vision shines bright over all the songs and the LP is arguably HIS recor

Mark, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
Total Classic, or Total Dud, sometimes in the same song.
Their last three (real, not Hand of Glory) albums were some of the best rock albs of the 90s. Unless Pound For Pound was 2000, which I think it might have been. Come ON, "Sunshine & Grease", "Dr. Gone" fucking awesome and anyone who doesn't think so should be tied to a pillar of salt in Caribou Country.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Totally agree. The last three albums are a trilogy on the theme of Great Rock Music. Jennifer channeling Bob Dylan on Coming Out Party is a beautiful thing. But destroy beyond recognition Twin Infinitives and "harmelodics". Has anyone heard Weird War, what's that like?

Paula G., Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Weird War is far more Svenonius (sp?) than Hagerty (sp? jeez, I'm dopey today). It's cheap thrills, a touch more exciting than Ian's David Candy alb.
For Neil's post-RT work, I like his two (or three if you count the Sabbath cover) Drag City Supersession songs best. There's some good stuff on both his solo albs, but I think one of the big things with him is who he's playing with brings out different things in him.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hah, dq to thread!!

geeta, Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hand of glory is not a real album?

zemko (bob), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well...it's album *length* anyway. But it's only two "songs" that seem to be just a lot of unfinished meanderings spliced together. I think it's stuff recorded over a lot of years in the late 1980s, in other words not made as *an album* but patched together as something for them to sell post-breakup. Maybe its better than I make it out, I only heard someone else's copy of it. But it sounded like more Twin Infinitives crap.

Paula G., Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I like the SONG stuff.
The OTHER stuff, I can get into sometimes, but when they're doing rock songs, that's my favourite.
Hand of Glory is just OTHER stuff. No songs. Just stuff. Either you're into it or you aren't. Unless you're really not into, then you'll hate it.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i have thankyou, and might i say that it sucks the shit out of a horses ass.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 24 January 2003 00:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Horace: the first Royal Trux album (self-titled, not the one with the skulls) is a flawless *synthesis* of "song" and "stuff". Check it out sometime.

harman, Friday, 24 January 2003 01:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

classic except for "hand of glory". everything else owns, and as it happens, the ones i liked least when they came out ("sweet 16" and "veterans") are now my favorites.

mosurock (mosurock), Friday, 24 January 2003 07:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'Veterans of Disorder' is one of the greatest albums ever made, like if Primal Scream (or any other UK band) were 'about' music-qua-music

dave q, Friday, 24 January 2003 10:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't Primal Scream dedicate an alb to the Trux?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 24 January 2003 14:59 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I've heard a couple of things from 'veterans..' and 'accelerator...' and as nice as the riffs are, or as wasted as the singing sounds it kind of felt to me that I wouldn't really get into a full record of it. That feeling was enough to put me off until I got round to buying 'twin infinitives' last week after that royal trux vs afghan whigs thread.

I like it lots => pretty! Bunch of skeletal fragments put together to make into an incredibly coherent mess of a record.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've seen a lot of slagging of that album lately. I love Twin Infinitives.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

SO CLASSIC.

If you arent feeling a certain album of theirs, there will be a point in your life when you will.

I think they are the only band who's catalog I've completly sold off...only to buy it back later.

CATS and DOGS OWNZ.

ddb, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to the self titled recently. It's great!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

duh. Greatest rock and roll band of all time. No contest.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i really don't like royal trux. thankyou is the only one i have. i only listened to it once, and realised that i would never ever enjoy it, no matter how hard i tried. i like the ballad "stevie" which is off accelerator, i think, but i'm still saying dud. i've always meant to pick up a copy of "twin infinitives" though, out of curiosity more than anything.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If ever there was a group who ran 180-degrees against the prevailing ILM aesthetics (you know, Anglophilia; the people who accuse others of being "rockist" ... ), then RTX were/are it.

Did RTX create much of an impact in Britain? I really have no idea. It seems to me that most of their references and signifiers, not to mention their evocations, would be lost on a British audience. Or if RTX did in fact make an impression in the UK, I have a strong feeling that they were received and understood as far more exotic and inscrutable (or pretentious, if you like) than they actually were.

Anyway, at this stage I'm more convinced than ever that RTX were among the greatest bands in rock & roll history, and are gradually being recognized as such.

kjoerup, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 00:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

See the thing is its that rock n'roll-ness of the band that put me off. Twin Infinitives is more artful.

More art, less rock thx!

When 'accelerator' came out I remember a 'wow they are back!'-type reaction from the press at the time, people seemed to be glad.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 08:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

simon reynolds loved royal trux. he wrote about them in the melody maker at least once.

a, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

accelerator and veterand of disorder totally blew my mind when they came out. it was mad, unpredictable rock and roll at its best. and i still love those records (much more than thank you, btw, which is only ok to me). but accelerator... oh my...

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

are their reference points really that inscrutable to UK audiences? The Stones seem to loom the largest in RTX's universe.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Royal Trux played the worst show I ever saw. We saw them out at the back of The Garage afterwards and my friend Ben shouted at them for it.

Thank You is terrible, though.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i got twin infinitives tonight because of this thread. cheap & used & FUCKING AWESOME. it's gonna take me weeks to make sense of this album.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 27 May 2004 06:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it's a classic, but Thank You is the masterpiece.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

NO "ACCELERATOR" IS

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

NO ACTUALLY IT'S "SINGLES, LIVE, UNRELEASED". That record just beats everything ever in the right mood.

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I only have Thank You, but for faux-Stones with the weirdness cranked up a few notches there is none better. (I'll get the rest eventually when I find them at less extortionate prices!) I love that they could freely talk about harmolodics, and star in their own comic book.

Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Thursday, 27 May 2004 15:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
I've purchased Pound for Pound, Veterans of Disorder, and Thank You within the past couple of weeks and now Royal Trux is the only music I want to listen to. What should I do?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Accelerator, my friend.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Accelerator is one of the best.

steve hise, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.dragcity.com/catalog/records/dc3.gif

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they are good aren't they nick?!?!

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is Royal Trux noize?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

if not, i don't know what noize is

(ok, wolf eyes or some shit, but then who cares?)

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Also, Neil Michael Hagerty & the Howling Hex double album (I haven't heard any of the ltd ed records, pity me!) kicks ass and is the best of his three wide-release (har har) post RTX albs. Though lately, I've been getting into the first one again. "Creature Catcher" is wonderful.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It's all leading up to the announcement of a Kinky Wizards tour.

Welcome to Gropelord, TX (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 17:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Bad blood, it's gonna fall on you...

plant a twee or die (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Has anyone even picked up on this outside of this thread though

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:23 (one month ago) Permalink

thanks for the feedback ive got someone looking over the notifics for me because i am too thin-skinned

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) November 28, 2018

plant a twee or die (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Whew, glad that clears everything up then.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:30 (one month ago) Permalink

hagerty's twitter feed is golden.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:07 (one month ago) Permalink

gotta figure neil would either be Not Online or Extremely Online

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:08 (one month ago) Permalink

For years, he ran this "collaborative blog" thing at a site called Soapblox -- it was the main Howling Hex webpage -- and it was pretty cool. He would do most the main posts, and users could comment; but you could also submit articles/posts that he would approve for publication if he liked them enough. But he shut it down suddenly at some point in the early 2010s.

plant a twee or die (morrisp), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Point:
https://royal-trux.com

Counterpoint:

Dennis DeYoung Says He Had No Prospects After He Got Fired From Styx https://t.co/P9BAqFL8sK via @YouTube

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) November 29, 2018

Mike Dixn, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 06:06 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://fatpossum.com/royal-trux-announce-white-stuff/

na (NA), Monday, 7 January 2019 16:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

title track is ok but definitely sounds like a jennifer song

na (NA), Monday, 7 January 2019 16:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That PR blurb sure makes me miss Drag City’s writing!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(It’s also “funny” how only Jennifer is quoted, lol)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

to be clear i like jennifer's songs but there had been theorizing above that she is the one driving the new royal trux but nmh being less active, and this press release/new song seem to point that way

na (NA), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I don't have a problem with that tbh

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 January 2019 17:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Haven’t listened to the new track yet; but I wouldn’t be surprised if Neil had less involvement in this LP than he did in, like, the first Weird War album.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If that is the case, I only have a problem with it inasmuch as it's being labeled a Royal Trux album. Like I'd be cool if they each guested on the other's albums but don't tease.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The new song kinda sounds like Trux-pastiche (like the other two). And the "coke mirror" aesthetic... I dunno.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 17:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Big Trux fan here. Got my pre-order goin. Y'all are right about Jen runnin the show.
I get the vibe Neil has custody of Live Trux and Jennifer has the studio end of it.
Jen was getting blasted drunk thru the last tour.
Really hope there's some Neil songwriting intelligence on the new LP

edges, Monday, 7 January 2019 19:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

As tour cancellation announcements go, you could do worse than Royal Trux: "Jennifer is incredibly grateful that she will not be spending any time in jail, and in her own words, states: "Shit could definitely be worse." Rock'n'roll.

— Kevin Williams (@TribuneKevin) January 15, 2019

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:21 (one week ago) Permalink

What happened??

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:37 (one week ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm bad at googling today, but I can't find anything about a tour cancellation or what happened.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:39 (one week ago) Permalink

this was posted on the Facebook Event page for the Philly show

"Due to some unresolved issues arising from a past arrest, Royal Trux will be rescheduling their North American Tour. Jennifer is incredibly grateful that she will not be spending any time in jail, and in her own words, states: "Shit could definitely be worse.”

She regrets that her inconvenience may affect the fans' and ticket buyers but is looking forward to the shows being rescheduled for later this Spring.

New dates will be announced shortly, tickets purchased in advance will be honored for the new dates."

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Royal Trux postpone tour due to issues from a past arrest https://t.co/xiDwcO1qXq pic.twitter.com/5q9GTUaV40

— ALARM Magazine (@ALARMmag) January 15, 2019

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:01 (one week ago) Permalink

xps

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:02 (one week ago) Permalink

Thanks.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:28 (one week ago) Permalink

haha, this overall messiness and confusion in Truxland is very appropriate I guess.

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:29 (one week ago) Permalink

It really is, I wish I was more excited about the new album, tbh. Nothing has really jumped out at me yet, it all def seems more fitting for Black Bananas or whatever.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:32 (one week ago) Permalink

I’m just here giving it all the side-eye... 👀

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:33 (one week ago) Permalink

In our current era of well organized, smoothly run heritage rock revivals I appreciate this confusing bit of chaos if I am bummed about the date getting moved.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:38 (one week ago) Permalink

ha this is actually convenient for me bc i had a conflict for the chicago show

na (NA), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 18:44 (one week ago) Permalink

don't even try to tell me what that announcement was-- i haven't had anything to do w/ it since june last year apart from some screaming yelling emails & txts

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) January 15, 2019

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 21:58 (one week ago) Permalink

looool, this bodes well for the tour.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:08 (one week ago) Permalink

are they cleaned up? hag seems to have it together, idk as much about jen

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Hag's been clean for years afaik

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:29 (one week ago) Permalink

tbh a RTX w out controversy and shenanigans and arguments would not be a true RTX reunion

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I dunno, my p.o.v. is that this was probably not meant to work out

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:35 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah i thought the original royal trux breakup was because hagerty got clean and herrema didn't and he got sick of dealing with it, but that might be an oversimplification

na (NA), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Exactly - and it makes me wonder about some of the circumstances surrounding the reunion (and other things that aren't really my business).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:41 (one week ago) Permalink

somebody needs money, duh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Well, yes - guess there was a sort of risk/benefit analysis involved.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:52 (one week ago) Permalink

i know it's real because i have done 3 records in 18 months for 3 different entities w/ 3 different groups & all either did not come out &/or were redone and i got paid in $$, identity theft & calumny-- such is the life of a natural heel, it's everything i'd hoped it could be

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) January 17, 2019

na (NA), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:47 (five days ago) Permalink

hmmmmmmmmmmm

na (NA), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:47 (five days ago) Permalink

love the use of the word calumny as opposed to libel or slander

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:52 (five days ago) Permalink

one of his many tweets that reads like it's responding to something specific but it's unclear what (he knows what's real?)

na (NA), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:54 (five days ago) Permalink

Suxx if true. Maybe should've hung w/Drag City.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:14 (five days ago) Permalink

(Unless DC is one of those "entities"... I don't know whether Neil & the Hex actually left DC, or just RTX.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:16 (five days ago) Permalink

I feel bad for Fat Possum as they're probably going to feel the repercussions of all this.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:19 (five days ago) Permalink

investors jumping from windows

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:18 (five days ago) Permalink

I've been thinking for a while I hope Neil didn't burn his bridges at Drag City. I don't think it'd be very easy to convince a label to put out Howling Hex records right now.

Mike Dixn, Friday, 18 January 2019 00:11 (four days ago) Permalink


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