Tell Me About These Musical Acts from Brazil

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I have been attempting to dig deep into the Brazilian music of the 60s and 70s (beyond Tropicalia, we've already got a couple threads for that) - recently scored a bunch of stuff from the folks below, none of whom I can find anything about online in English... anyone care to chime in? any info much appreciated

Bango
Liverpool
Manduka
Marconi Notaro
Os Lobos
Paulo Bagunca e a Tropa Maldita
Ronnie Von
Satwa
Sound Factory

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

on first listen some of this stuff is total sub-Tropicalia and/or definitely Tropicalia-derived. The Ronnie Von is from '67 and is fairly odd - doesn't have the songwriting chops of Gil or Veloso, but plenty of interesting things going on, weird combinations of marching band music and sound effects (there's a barking dog used as percussion on one track...?), lots of organ, etc. Bango also very psychedelic rock circa '67 (altho I think the album is later...?)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

c'mon ILM don't let me down!

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

:(

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

some Os Lobos

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

a fairly stupid Dusted review of Bango

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

hey and a Dusted review of Satwa reissue too

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

I have a Ronnie Von album, I think. It's sunny Tropicaliazed soft rock IIRC.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

Never even heard of the rest of these folks.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

The book "The Brazilian Sound" by Chris McGowan and Ricardo Pessanha is mostly about samba and bossa nova but it says that Ronnie Von used to appear on a Brazilian tv show called Jovem Guarda recorded live in Sao Paulo from 65 to 68. The show was supposedly watched by millions (with girls crying hysterically and boys dancing) and Von they say worked with then rocker Roberto Carlos (later a ballad singer) and Erasmo Carlos to create upbeat, simple Jovem Guarda rock.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

also can someone recommend where to start with Chico Buarque, Jorge Ben, Milton Nascimiento...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

Well Clube Da Esquina is where to start for the last one, def.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Africa Brasil for Jorge Ben, I guess, although I've not heard the two Dusty Groove reissues.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

The Gil/Ben album is fantastic if you don't have that although I believe they have both disowned it haha.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

thx - DLing that Club de Esquina album now, sounds interesting

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

You will be happy.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for the list of things to get shakey

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

Satwa was reissued about the same time as Paebiru by Lula Cortes (of Satwa) and Ze Ramalho. I found Paebiru to be the stronger of the two, so I'd recommend checking that out first.

And while Clube Da Esquina seems the obvious recommendation for Milton Nascimento, I think it's the Lo Borges stuff that stands out on that album. I tend to play Borges's A Via Lactea more often, which has some of the same songs - different versions though - and is dreamy as fuck.

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

you need this
http://www.amazon.com/Construcao-Chico-Buarque/dp/B000008AHA

check out the title track. when the strings and horns come in at 2minutes, it's like whoa!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnOAYO8aOrU

jaxon, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

jaxon that is awesome. Going on my list immediately.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

DLing it now - gracias

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

Marconi Notaro is also affiliated with the Satwa/Ze Ramahlo+Lula Cortes camp. The album that was reissued by Time Lag Records is really outstanding. It's got some tropicalia, some of the acoutstic instrumental drift like you find on the Satwa record, and some crazy out rock moments with a lot of electric guitar and weird effects.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't listened to the Marconi Notaro yet. I have No Sub Reino Dos Metazoarios.

I really liked what I listened to of the Satwa, lots of 12-string drone-y folk improvisation goodness

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Which album by Notaro did you pick up? I've only heard No Sub Reino, I think it's great.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

this is easily my favorite of the batch so far

fantastic rhythms all through this thing, no electric anything as near as I can tell (apart from the bass...?) Lots of really propulsive acoustic guitar grooves, great organic vibe to the whole thing.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

re: Chico Buarque's "Construcao" - some really weird, lovely things going on harmonically and melodically on this one, will have to give it a few more listens for it all to sink in.

also listened to the Clube De Esquina, which sounded markedly better and more enveloping on my stereo than it did on my iPod, for some reason. Really great, a very wistful, meandering quality to it that I enjoy. Plus all that reverb = goodness.

thx guys

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

christ I'm starting to sound like a DustyGroove sales sheet

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Liverpool album is really good - lots of fuzz wah-wah guitar, super-tight rhythm section, schizo song arrangements that shift gears on a dime. easily on a par with other bonafide Tropicalia releases, altho not as wild as Mutantes nor as songwriterly as Gil or Veloso. No Duprat orchestral arrangements either - all two guitars, bass, drums, vocals. great psych-pop.

Manduka album is pretty folky - opening track is a 10-minute long droning acoustic guitar thing, rest of the album maintains a similar rural vibe and pace, fairly mellow altho the hand percussion stuff kicks into high gear towards the end. will probably dump this one from the iPod tho, a bit too aimless in terms of songwriting for my tastes.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Did Dusted used to be better, or is that just my imagination?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

I admit I have a personal axe to grind against them now, but yeah the last few things I looked up on there recently were pretty uhhhhhh

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

Shakey have you heard this http://numberoneinverdun.blogspot.com/2008/02/fucd008-various-obsession-cd2lp.html? Only about a 1/4 from Brazil (rest from other South American countries and uh Turkey and India.) Really really good stuff.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

I mean that Animal Collective EP review was really waht lameass undergrad navel gazing nonsense

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

hmm haven't heard of that obsession thing. great cover!

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

also what is this Som Imaginarios referred to on the other Tropicalia threads...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

wtf this thread does not turn up in the search engine under "Brazil" BAH

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

it does. did you tab to 'next' in the search results?

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Ian J0hnson's boss at Accademy put that Obsession comp together. it's pretty fab

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

ooh just got a copy of a nice vinyl reissue of the first all-bossa Caetano Veloso album, haven't listened yet but am excited

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

also what is this Som Imaginarios referred to on the other Tropicalia threads...?

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

that recent reissue is totally worth getting. A more americanized sound than a lot of the other acts mentioned on this thread, but there's still some new sounding shit in there. You can probably get it from a blog.

uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

thx - I grabbed a self-titled 1970 album that I was really digging, main standout was this beauty called "Sabado"...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

this one

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's the one

uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Friday, 18 July 2008 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Sound Factory reminding me a lot of Secos and Molhados (vocals not QUITE as insane tho)

also gots:
Som Tres "Toboga"
Rubinho e Mauro Assumpcao "Perfeitamenta, Justamente Quando Chegui" (is that "perfect, just the way you are"...?) This one is great, opening track is total country-rock

Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

got tired of this Sound Factory album real quick. The Assumpcao one is great tho, I highly recommend that one.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

To ask a kind of OT question, is it characteristic for Brazilian LPs from the sixties to have a sleeve that's basically just a 24" by 12" piece of cardboard folded in half around the record, with the front and back cover images being glued on (no spine, no attachment along the top and bottom)? I bought a copy of Nara Leão's Rogerio Duprat album on eBay and was a little surprised to be getting more of a cloak than a jacket around the record.

eatandoph, Thursday, 14 August 2008 04:59 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Rio’s Marcio Local extends the legacies of influences like Jorge Ben and Banda Black Rio, standing at the crossroads of two great traditions in modern Brazilian music, Afro-Brazilian samba and’70’s soul, to create an undeniably cool and funky ode to political change and carioca life

Appearing in NYC in January

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

Ronnie Von recorded a psychedelic album during the 60s and is often associated with the Jovem Guarda movement. Nowadays he presents a corny talk show on Brazilian TV. kind of cult trash.

http://www.vinyl.tree.nom.br/ronnievon.gif

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Thurs. 1-8- Rio de Janeiro’s Marcio Local from 6 p.m. to 7p.m. at the Kennedy Center Millennium Stage for free---Local combines R&B, soul, and funk with samba, bossa nova, and other Brazilian sounds, as heard on “Samba sem nenhum problema” on which he celebrates a Rio de Janeiro steeped in Afro-Brazilian traditions, yet constantly devouring and reinventing new sounds and styles.


Also on Thursday January 8th

Garotas Suecas ­ from Sao Paulo Brazil

DJ Neville Chamberlain/Brazilian Rhythms ­ from Washington DC (but he has actually been to Brazil) at 9p.m. at Comet Ping Pong, 5037 Connecticut Ave NW, Comet Ping Pong will be hosting Garotas Suecas, from Sao Paulo Brazil, as they come to Washington, DC on their first ever USA tour. Freakbeat/Tropicalia is alive and well and well in Sao Paulo.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Can someone tell me about this gnomic looking dude called Sivuca?

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:zGrd75VfiwgO0M:http://www.kaufman-center.org/mch/images/artists/masters/hermetopascoal.jpg

hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

seen many pictures of that dude, never heard him

I see there is now a deluxe vinyl reissue of that Liverpool album making the rounds

I gather he's famous for both his accordion skills as much as his production. This one in particular sounds great.

hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 9 January 2009 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

that's actually hermeto pascoal, who in fairness shares many of sivuca's wizardly attributes

sure this has been posted before but here's a good excuse

Bangelo, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Gah. I did a google image search, and that was the best of the lot. But pretty crazy likeness, aye.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_c8wX6bHrA4A/R8MKT9AmxSI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/JXLirr5pMrU/s1600-h/sivuca+foto2.JPG

hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

OMG @ this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrnEsHzAwcA

Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 October 2009 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

random youtube find. lovely stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3lwGtJPT0

ship_rex (+ +), Sunday, 23 January 2011 01:04 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Maucha Adnet & Helio Alves

singer and pianist duo

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:54 (seven years ago) link

Helio is a really good piano player and Maucha is good too, she sang with Jobim when she was quite young and I believe is now married to the drummer Duduka da Fonseca. Why? Are they playing near you?

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:20 (seven years ago) link

There is picture of them here: http://www.congahead.com/legacy/On_The_Scene/duduka/duduka.html

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Thanks. They're gonna be in D.C. at Blues Alley for $25 (plus a drink minimum) on Monday November 11th

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 20:01 (seven years ago) link

Think you're gonna go?

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:58 (seven years ago) link

No, although it sounds like it would be nice show. But I will probably see Jorge Ben at the Howard Theatre on the 16th

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 November 2013 19:08 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, you should definitely go see Jorge Ben. I should too.

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2013 19:11 (seven years ago) link

You can always see Maucha and/or Helio and/or Duduka and/or Romero Lubambo at Dizzy's the next time you come to New York.

The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 12:05 (seven years ago) link

Ahh, that's right.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 14:02 (seven years ago) link

Wouldn't be surprised if you they played in DC reasonably often.

The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:25 (seven years ago) link

Could be, and they were just never on my radar. Although,it's Brazilian music month it seems in DC. Blues Alley just had Trio De Paz reviewed here in the W. Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/at-blues-alley-trio-da-paz-showcases-the-lovely-complexities-of-brazilian-jazz/2013/11/07/61d1e802-4760-11e3-95a9-3f15b5618ba8_story.html

and trumpeter Claudio Roditi is gonna be there as well as Maucha and Helio. The Jorge Ben gig at the Howard is pricey ($65), but I liked him back in 2004 live.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:06 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I meant to mention Nilson.

The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:08 (seven years ago) link

I'm just learning who those folks are

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:10 (seven years ago) link

There is good Brazilian guitar player with an English name, Richard Miller, who used to live in DC, I think he was getting a PhD in music education, but now he lives here.

The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:17 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, he used to play everywhere around here

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:26 (seven years ago) link

Maybe not everywhere, but I know the name

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Boogarins, from Brazil, where in the 1960’s psychedelia was also tropicalia, with its rebellious underpinnings. They had the sweet melodic convolutions of tropicalia, some playfully unconventional meters and, at times, some of the modal hypnosis of San Francisco bands like the Jefferson Airplane

Jon Pareles in NY Times blog re group doing a free 8 pm Monday/tonight in-store at Other Music in NYC; and playing in Brooklyn Tuesday

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 March 2014 19:29 (six years ago) link

bump

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 19:13 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

Juçara Marçal of the 80s Vanguarda Paulista has a pretty interesting album Encarnado out. The parts I've heard bit like Sonic Youth playing MPB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdu6uwpbJZs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjyACV-faHs

Felt up by Adam Smith's invisible hand (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:48 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

So, Brazilian records ca. 1969-73 are filled with amazing "sunshine pop", Free Design style harmonies, for example this soap opera soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppmrjMgoRG0

And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSMsBiarz4

I can't find any evidence of a direct influence, but intriguingly, the Azymuth guys turn out to be session players on two albums by "Projecto 3" (which is of course a Portuguese version of the name of Enoch Light's label). Surely a coincidence? The title track seems to me to have been ripped of by Tortoise on 'the Bridge at Iguazu Falls', maybe that title is a hint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2obLyHq3gbE

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:20 (one week ago) link

Brazilian soap opera soundtracks from the 70's often function as great samplers of quality tracks from the era.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:42 (one week ago) link


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