Steely Dan - The Royal Scam poll

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Kid Charlemagne 19
The Caves of Altamira 13
Sign In Stranger 5
The Fez 5
Haitian Divorce 5
Don't Take Me Alive 2
Everything You Did 2
The Royal Scam2
Green Earrings 0


omar little, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

fez

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

caves of altamira

iago g., Friday, 27 June 2008 00:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

the white man is crazy

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

This is easily "Haitian" Divorce"

Geir Hongro, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

My least favorite album: clavinets and talk boxes hither and thither, songs that run too long for no reason. After loving SD for years, I still couldn't hum "Everything You Did" and "The Royal Scam."

"Don't Take Me Alive" over "Kid Charlemagne" in a photo finish.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is there gas in the car??????

felicity, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

yes there's gas in the car!!

some dude, Friday, 27 June 2008 00:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

when there wasn't even any hollywood

memwer, Friday, 27 June 2008 01:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

how some folks felt about "Show Biz Kids" = how I feel about "Don't Take Me Alive" x1000 -- those lyrics deserve better

David R., Friday, 27 June 2008 01:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think this is the hardest SD album for me to call, favorites-wise, very consistent with no real strong favorites or un-favorites. will probably vote for either "Caves" or the title track or "Sign In Stranger" or "Haitian Divorce" or...yeah you can see where this is going.

xpost yeah "Don't Take Me Alive" was one I liked as a kid but can't really stand now.

some dude, Friday, 27 June 2008 01:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Don't Take Me Alive, which I didn't vote for, has one of the top five solos though...isn't it Rick Derringer shredding?

iago g., Friday, 27 June 2008 01:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

kid charlemagne

ciderpress, Friday, 27 June 2008 01:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wonchu Sign in Strang'

Joe, Friday, 27 June 2008 01:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

This one's a no-brainer: Kid Charlemagne

ablaeser, Friday, 27 June 2008 02:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

Caves

Tom D., Friday, 27 June 2008 09:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Clavinets rule, dude.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Indeed, The Clavinets of Altamira

Tom D., Friday, 27 June 2008 09:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Actually, I wouldn't say this is my favorite SD album, but I have sometimes thought that it's the pinnacle of their sound: it sounds sparkly and polished without the sterility that sometimes dogs Aja and Gaucho.

jaymc, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

best sd clav song is night by night

memwer, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

my fave SD album. am not voting as i cant decide between 'haitian divorce', 'dont take me alive' and 'caves of altamira'. 'kid charlemagne' is about as funky as they got too. the whole set is brilliant not a duff track on it.

Michael B, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok decided to go for "Sign In Stranger." YOU ZOMBIE!

some dude, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Royal Scam is the first Steely Dan record that doesn't exhibit significant musical progress from its predecessor,
This line from AMG is total bullshit right? Royal sounds nothing like Katy. It seems like the album where they beacame the Steely Dan that people think of when they hear the name. Katy Lied still sounded somewhat like a band playing in a room, while Scam is the fist one to sound like a studio machine firing on all engines.
basically jaymc otm.

mizzell, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

for me, it's probably the weakest of the original run of albums. even so, there's lots of strong stuff here. i'm leaning Charlemagne cause it fucking bangs, but i've got a soft spot for caves and haitian divorce.

also "turn up the eagles, the neighbors are listening" A++

will, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I never managed to get into that album really.

baaderonixx, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think it's their best album...and so does Rickie Lee Jones...and I voted for "The Caves Of Altamira" and "Night By Night" is their best clavi song...and...oh i forgot

sonnyboy, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

as a collection it seems unfocused but there some real gems in it. but "Kid Charlemagne" changed my fucking life for real, some of the best narrative on Fagen's resume. 'Clean this mess up else we'll all wind up in jail/those test tubes, and the scale' one of the all-time couplets.

J0hn D., Friday, 27 June 2008 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't find the album too bad, but there are some single tracks dragging it down considerably. "The Fez" and the title track both get too repetitive and monotonous in the long run.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

This is my second favorite SD album -and their most rockin' album since "Countdown". No bad songs on it. Probably "Sign In Stranger" would be my pick.

o. nate, Friday, 27 June 2008 17:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Kid Charlemagne has one of those Fagen idées fixes - or whatever you want to call them - "Careful what you carry." As in "I can see from what you carry that you come from Barrytown."

That and the letters, the shoes. Has anyone made a list of his repeated lyrical tropes?

felicity, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha Geir and I agree!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

this album kicks so much collctive bottom.

Frogman Henry, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

Kind of a throwback to Ecstasy, it seems to me, with the longish jammy tracks, and the hotshit solos standing out a bit more against the repetitiousness (which I don't mind at all, but I don't mind "Show Biz Kids" either).

"Kid Charlemagne" comes real close, but I wish Larry Carlton's guitar licks were a little bit less tasteful - "Skunk" Baxter-style edginess woulda been more appropriate. So I go with "Sign In Stranger". Love that Monkish piano and "Do you like to take a yo-yo for a ride?"

Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 28 June 2008 00:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

kid charlemagne.boring answer,but true.

Zeno, Saturday, 28 June 2008 03:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

Went with "Royal Scam" because it's such a phenomenal and focused lyric, and a true one as far as the lie so many people were sold as they entered America.

"Sign in Stranger" is one of the very few Dan songs that I never remember how it goes; like "Razor Boy" and "Everything You Did" and "Boston Rag" and "Rose Darling."

Joseph McCombs, Saturday, 28 June 2008 06:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Kid Charlemagne has one of those Fagen idées fixes - or whatever you want to call them - "Careful what you carry." As in "I can see from what you carry that you come from Barrytown."

That and the letters, the shoes. Has anyone made a list of his repeated lyrical tropes?

I'm no expert but didn't Walter Fagen write a shitload of the Steely Dan lyrics? Maybe even the majority of them?

Tom D., Saturday, 28 June 2008 10:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

its the best sd album - a lot of people dont realize this - why because they r dumb i dunno

jhøshea, Saturday, 28 June 2008 11:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Becker wrote a lot of those lyrics.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 28 June 2008 14:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is kinda like the katy lied poll for me where i wanted to vote something other than "dr. wu" but it just seemed too perfect a song...

...so anyway, kid charlamagne, i'm boring.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

if i could vote again - caves

Zeno, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haitian Divorce, particularly for the "Now we dolly back/Now we fade to black -> soaking wah solo" bit, which is a bit of a trick, yeah, but it gets me every time.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

its the best sd album - a lot of people dont realize this - why because they r dumb i dunno

just wanna point out that this opinion is insane

J0hn D., Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

best Dan records are aja and ecstasy

Zeno, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

see now there's a man who know what's up

J0hn D., Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

"katy lied" comes very very close to those two also as does "gaucho" which is the one about which the most convincing "no, see, this one is actually the best" case can be built

J0hn D., Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd put Royal Scam on a par with Katy Lied, which is a tier below Aja and Countdown, but above everything else (in my personal estimation).

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Why the Gaucho love, j)hn?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

That is to say, I've never had love for that album outside of Babylon Sisters, Hey 19, and the one about heroin that gets played on all the smooth jazz stations.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean, Glamour Profession would've been great minus two or three minutes and if Fagan's voice wasn't shot to shit.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh man, lyrically I have nothing against it! But I think that Fagan's just at his nasaliest here to a fault.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 03:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's too late for me to post coherent thoughts on Gaucho, but briefly: no album I've heard in the last five years has terrified me so much. I can't even describe the tonal colors of the title track: its mockery of the Gaucho is so tender, merciless, and empathetic that it belies the Dan's reputations as cynics. There's the difference between cynicism and irony.

John, among others, has posted great things on Gaucho in its own thread.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 03:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

and the lilt of "Third World Man." I always imagine this crab sinking slowly to the bottom of the sea, as thin layer upon layer of sand buries him.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 03:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

SEE THE GLORY

omar little, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 23:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

justice is served, although I'm surprised by zero votes for "Green Earrings" - that's a solid tune with some really nice breezy combo work and one of the most hermetic lyrics in the SD canon

J0hn D., Thursday, 3 July 2008 00:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah, "my rival" is the only track I can't get into on gaucho. still, I probably rate countdown and gaucho as my faves these days.

I used to not be feelin' gaucho/nightfly much, but now I love em both. probably more to do with my personal trajectory re: the dan than anything. mostly worked my way through the back catalog chronologically since just about each album is slicker than the last and it was a little bit of a problem for me at first.

original bgm, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Nightfly is wonderful for entirely different reasons.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 July 2008 14:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

gaucho was a dead last for me (of the first 8) for years, but its stock has risen considerably as i've gotten older. top tier w/ Aja, Katy & Countdown now.

Scam's the one that kinda leaves me cold these days, even though it's still v v awesome.

will, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Didn't Gaucho win the overall SD album poll?

baaderonixx, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

no and no:
POLL: Best Steely Dan album
Best Steely Dan/Donald Fagen/Walter Becker Album

some dude, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

first 7, that is

will, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

this album is so deep. i love it.

any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

it's like they made a whole album of deep cuts

any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

totally... how deep is the rhodes all over this album

winston, Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

seems like it gets an unfair rap as their "least great" album or whatever

winston, Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's always been my favorite.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Christ but what an astonishing album.

piscesx, Monday, 26 September 2011 04:10 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

did we all know that the cover art for the royal scam was originally created for a van morrison album? seems important, somehow.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:46 (four years ago) Permalink

the van morrison album (which was never released) was supposed to be called Mechanical Bliss. seems important, too, somehow.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Somehow I did not know that. Neat.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:49 (four years ago) Permalink

here's a big thing about it (and a speculative version of that unreleased van LP)
http://www.themidnightcafe.org/?p=4119

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:58 (four years ago) Permalink

also funny, via wiki: In the liner notes for the 1999 remaster of the album, Fagen and Becker claim it to be "the most hideous album cover of the seventies, bar none (excepting perhaps Can't Buy A Thrill)."

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:58 (four years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

On some days, this is their best.

piscesx, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 22:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

well I CROSSED my OLD MAN back in OREGAHN, don't take me alive

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 22:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's cool that caves got so many votes, what a jam

brimstead, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 22:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Green Earrings into Haitian Divorce is just ridiculous

flappy bird, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

those RINGS OF RARE DESIGN
I remember
the LOOK in your EYE

voodoo chili, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Lol for the longest time I thought it was the “the rings of Randy’s eyes”

flappy bird, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I don't mind

voodoo chili, Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:11 (one week ago) Permalink

it's like they made a whole album of deep cuts

― any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Heh, most OTM post on this thread.

pplains, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:17 (one week ago) Permalink

So true

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Thanks for the revive - reminded me to pull this out and give it a spin.

o. nate, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Most off-the-money thing about this thread was the zero votes for "Green Earrings".

o. nate, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:20 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah jesus

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:20 (one week ago) Permalink

GE is great but you’re talking such

calstars, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:21 (one week ago) Permalink

I mean there’s no fucking with KC right?

calstars, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:22 (one week ago) Permalink

eh, overexposed

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I voted "Sign in Stranger" in the original poll, but would gladly vote "Green Earrings" in a rematch. There are at least 6 songs on here I could see myself voting for at any given time.

o. nate, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Agree

calstars, Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:40 (one week ago) Permalink

I've said it before somewhere, but I love how the title track sounds like a Norman Whitfield production.

Tim F, Saturday, 2 December 2017 04:12 (one week ago) Permalink

caves of altamira has such a huge, lush-sounding hook, odd it’s only been sampled once afaict, by some italian rappers

sciatica, Saturday, 2 December 2017 05:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Last time they played Don't Take me Alive in Portland everyone cheered after each instance of OREGAHN, great fun, great show maybe the best I've ever seen

Also yeah Green Earrings thoroughly robbed, nice to see reps for Haitian Divorce tho

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 2 December 2017 08:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Lol for the longest time I thought it was the “the rings of Randy’s eyes”

― flappy bird, Friday, December 1, 2017 9:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I used to think it was "rings of round design" and was confused because surely all rings are of round design?

soref, Saturday, 2 December 2017 10:00 (one week ago) Permalink

"sign in stranger" has quietly become my favorite dan song of all time

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 19:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah except for the outro

calstars, Saturday, 2 December 2017 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Sign in Stranger has always reminded me of Spoon circa Gax5.

yugi ex, Saturday, 2 December 2017 21:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Paul Griffin is a hero

voodoo chili, Saturday, 2 December 2017 21:11 (one week ago) Permalink


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