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Being mentioned in the Trip Hop Wars thread, got me thinking, Orbital, before MoN, one of my favorite electronic acts, after MoN (inclusive), disappointment. And don't get me started on the cheeze metal in Halcyon Live. Can anyone explain to me why it makes such a beautiful song anything but ruined?

Lee, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The 80s samples are there for comedy more than anything else. It shows that while Orbital are kings of making ultra-smooth bliss-out music, they aso aren't willing to fall into the trap of taking themselves so seriously that they disappear up their own backsides (see also "Doctor ?" and "Oi!").

At any rate, I feel sorry for anyone disappointed by _Middle Of Nowhere_. It's isn't Orbital's best album (which is clearly _In Sides_), but it's CLEARLY a fantastic piece of work. _The Altogether_ doesn't hang together nearly as well, but the individual songs are killer ("Funny Break" is one of the best singles they've ever released).

Dan Perry, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I agree with Funny Break, quite a poptronic gem, but past the first time novelty of Tootled, I have been seriously put off of The Altogether.

But as for MoN, I shouldn't have panned it so clearly, I really enjoy the second half, from Ontono to Style. The first half is too blaring for my tastes.

Good point about Halcyon, but do they have to do it every time they play it live from now on till they finally hang up their nifty flashlight goggles? Unless they've stopped doing it lately, I haven't been to a show since '99.

Lee, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Halcyon is one of the most glorious bizarre and fantastic tracks around. Chime is another.

Ronan, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, but stay away from the Ray Keith remix of "Chime". That was the first Orbital track I ever heard and it single-handedly caused me to ignore their first two albums until 1996.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh there's loads of dreadful bootlegs of it too.

It just is so perfect in its own beautiful sense. From the very beginning it seems to point to a sonic height that's still miles away and go directly to it in 8 minutes. Does anyone know what I mean? Few songs are so utterly perfect in this sense.

Ronan, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i saw them in the fall, and they did the bon jovi thing, same as before. but i think it's great. i thought MoN was a great album too, it took a bit to grow on me, but i love it.

and i'm going to have to disagree with dan and say their best album, without a shadow of a doubt, is the brown album.

dyson, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. Many times over. In Sides and Brown are both amazing, Snivilisation is wonderousl MoN is Very Good, and The Altogether is weak with some GRATE tracks. One of my favourite bands ever.

Nick Southall, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

To me the weakest Orbital album is the Green album. Middle of Nowhere is a concise, punchy little album that is a departure from the Orbital norm....that's precisely why I like it so much. The Green album just doesn't impress me, aside from Satan and Belfast.

patrick, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

If their output were solely LC1, Omen, Belfast, the Brown Album (by default my favorite: Lush 3 and Halcyon?), In Sides and Satan live... well, many artists would die for such a body of work.

Lee, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I dunno...

Compared to their work from the late 80's to the mid 90's, the Hartnoll output of the last two albums has been pretty uninspiring. 'Middle of Nowhere' was on autopilot and 'The Altogether' is was so God awfully bad that it should come as no surprise we recently got the old "We're not happy with how our label is marketing our work nowadays..." (i.e. bumped from the label) line. Even crusty old Juno Reactor pal Alex Patterson sounded more relevant with the last Orb record than Orbital did.

'The Altogether' was the sound of Orbital taking that Bon Jovi/Belinda Carlisle sample and extending the idea for 70 minutes.

scott, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised at how much difference people see between their albums. I'm not trying to suggest that Snivilisation isn't a significantly better record than The Altogether, but I think it's the difference between great and very good. I think they're a magnificent group, and even their weakest stuff is still excellent, and there aren't so many acts that have kept up such standards for, say, half a dozen albums in a row.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hi scott! :)

minna, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

There's a quality to their music and their high points in particular (Chime and Halcyon, Belfast, Satan, I could go on) that is just astonishing. Chime for me seems to pick a sonic height far away at the beginning and just cruise towards it perfectly. When the bassline pulses in first it's so reassuringly full of direction. Lots of dance music, to me has this locomotive feel to it, but nothing really achieves perfection like Chime does.

Does anyone feel this about Chime? I'm interested to know if it's a personal reaction or not. That's the best way I can put it into words, it just feels so constant. Makes music worth listening to every time I hear it. No more gushing, I promise.

Ronan, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i will hate them till the end of time for making me think the butthole surfers' "sweat loaf" is on telly /radio when it's not "satan satan satan" my arse.

bob snoom, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Lots of dance music, to me has this locomotive feel to it, but nothing really achieves perfection like Chime does."

Ronan for another example of perfect locomation (albeit in a less anthemic manner) see The Modernist's "Abi '81".

Agreed with all the praise for Orbital. My favourite dancefloor delirium moment though has to be live version of "Impact (The Earth Is Burning)" included on the bonus disc for In Sides.

Tim, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I agree with Martin so strongly it isn't even funny. Also, I must agree with Tim about the wonder that is "Impact". One thing that irritates me about people's reactions to the brown album is that people spend so much time going gaga over "Lush" and "Halcyon" that they don't notice the staggering goodness of "Impact" and "Remind".

Dan Perry, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's because we can only concentrate on a few things at a time. Uh, that's it. (The Brown album still my own fave, but all the albums have their strengths.)

My own fave Orbital moment still has to be the live "Chime" on the three-part Satan Live EP. Just builds up a percussion-heavy start and THEN...the melody slams in. Perfection.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dan: Impact and Remind, yes both brill, but their old live version of Walk Now was possibly even better than both of them.

Ned: That live version is amayyyzing.

RickyT, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

One thing that irritates me about people's reactions to the brown album is that people spend so much time going gaga over "Lush" and "Halcyon" that they don't notice the staggering goodness of "Impact" and "Remind".

Heh heh, that's me, whoops. :)

Lee, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think the whole bon jovi/belinda carlisle thing is brilliant...i really like the original song,but i think the live version is done so well and fits in so perfectly that they can easily pull it off...they manage to take this perfectly ethereal song,mix two eighties power ballads in,and not break the flow...it always brings a smile to my face...having said that,i've never seen them live and don't have any of their albums,a situation i should remedy fairly quicksmart... whenever people talk about bootlegs i always thing of the orbital thing being vastly superior to the majority of the ones you hear people talking about now...

robin, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
I just heard these guys for the first time today.
"In Sides." It's really good. Y'all know this is
essentially prog, right? There's a reason Geir
likes this stuff.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 28 April 2003 03:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Y'all know this is
essentially prog, right? There's a reason Geir
likes this stuff.

There's one reason, yes. Besides, there are great synth sounds and stereoeffects (like in most techno), some really interesting harmonic bits, and even hints of melodies here and there.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 April 2003 08:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i like em too, but i only have the brown album. the first rec can be got for cheap, i may pick it up this weekend. lush 3-1 is particularly great.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 28 April 2003 08:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I say again; one of my mopst favouritest bands EVAH EVAH EVAH.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 28 April 2003 09:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Btw. Classic. Best dance act evah!

My definite one and only OPO is "In-Sides" btw.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Geir, you heard much 808 State?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Not much. What I've heard is OK, but nothing can quite compare with Orbital anyway as far as dance goes. 808 State sounds a bit too "1990" - with too many "harsh" digital synth sounds.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 April 2003 20:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ok but they have actually deployed more complicated harmonic and melodic sequences than Orbital at times, in fact it was a staple of their earlier hits ('Pacific', 'Olympic') with the irony being the free woodwind-based solos on those tracks were subtle but standout to the more repetetive and harsh riffs of the digital synths. still Massey and co. kept up this trademark of subtle melodic elements throughout their discography and they've been a lot more varied than Orbital over the years. i think they have something in common with Orbital in that both initially built tracks around simple synth hooks ala Kraftwerk but rather than take this in a pop direction layered on lots of well-crafted background elements and general detail...but with Orbital relying far more on hypnotic/monotonous rhythms to accompany what harmonics/melodics there were. actually thinking about it 808 have always had more of a 'jazz' influence to their electronic sound unlike Orbital - make of that what you will.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 28 April 2003 23:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I can definitely hear those jazz influences in "Pacific" at least.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 April 2003 23:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

actually thinking about it 808 have always had more of a 'jazz' influence to their electronic sound unlike Orbital

bloody hell yes - you heard that Homelife album Massey and his millions of musical mates made last year? Widdly jazz chaos, I tells yer - Gilles Petersons album of the flippin' millennium, basically...and all that that entails.

In conclusion, Orbital are fucking brilliant and I couldn't possibly live without wither Brown or In Sides or even Snivilisation in my collection; to hell with them post-1997, however, it all went horribly wrong.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 02:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Something obviously went wrong after "In-Sides", that is true.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 09:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh come on Middle of Nowhere is great too! Way Out is one of my favourite Orbital tracks.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 09:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not quite with Ro here; MoN is very good, but not great. It's certainly not the travesty of The Altogether.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 09:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Altogether has many good tracks - i think its as good as The Middle Of Nowhere, in fact i rate all the Orbital albums equally now (SNivil.. and In Sides both have tracks/parts i dislike too so it works out pretty evenly)

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 09:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

bloody hell yes - you heard that Homelife album Massey and his millions of musical mates made last year? Widdly jazz chaos, I tells yer - Gilles Petersons album of the flippin' millennium, basically...and all that that entails.

heh, i'll probably LOVE it

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 09:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Middle of Nowhere" is tops - surely "Nothing Left" is the *ultimate* Orbital track? "The Altogether" is amazingly rub by comparison.

I reckon my favourite album overall though would be "Snivilisation", even though it has some weaker tracks... the emotional force to it is so strong.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 10:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i'm convinced people's seeming auto-hate for 'The Altogether' comes down to the David Gray track. i like 'Tension', LOVE 'Funny Break', 'Pay Per View' is gorgeous, 'Last Thing' is CLASSIC Orbital, 'Dr Who' is okay but they probably shouldnt have bothered including it, 'Shadows' is very b-sidey granted, 'Waving But Drowning' could've done with a vocal/sample but otherwise its more than a match for Lemon Jelly...'Meltdown' is probably the highlight - epic stuff that captures that classic Orbital trademark of starting off dark, getting very dark then turning all light and euphoric at the end. 'Tootled' is terrible granted but really the good/bad ratio is heavily in favour of the positive as with any other Orbital...perhaps the lack of surprises and the formulaic aspect (esp. with tracks like 'Last Thing') is the problem - on its own merit 'The Altogether' is not bad at all, when stood up alongside earlier works perhaps its not as strong if just for their presence rather than individual quality.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 10:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I see what you mean stevem but I still don't wanna listen to it. The badness of the bad tracks outweighs the goodness of the good ones.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 10:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

skip those TWO bad tracks and your problem is solved

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 10:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I hate skipping. I am lazy.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 10:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i was v disappointed with Altogether when it came out, but it has withstood recent repeated listening.

Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 11:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

my favourite orbital song,i think,is the box,in the album form with the really long intro and then the track
i've probably heard chime but i don't know it off hand,so i'm downloading it now
i still havent bought any albums by them though

robin (robin), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 12:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ok i've decided 'in sides' and 'brown' ARE the best albums ;)

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 13:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really love how people fetishize the first two Orbital albums. I mean, yes, _Orbital 2_ is an excellent album, but the next three are all MUCH better than it (_Snivilizaton_ is better because it just hangs together as a total package; _In Sides_ is just godlike and perfect; _The Middle Of Nowhere_ has the overlooked storming tracks that people forget about but are some of the best things they've done outside of _In Sides_) and _The Altogether_ almost equals it on the strength of three amazing songs ("Funny Break", "Last Thing", "Meltdown"), while _Orbital 1_ is useless once you remove the singles and "Choice" (and, after all of these years, I'm still not 100% convinced by "Chime").

I am convinced people hate "Illuminate" SOLELY for David Gray. If it had been an instrumental, people would have wet themselves over it.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 13:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think people fetishize the Brown album because it's their 'proper dance' album and an absolute stormer of one at that - I love it more than any of their albums save InSides because it has that feeling of being more like an amazing DJ set than an actual album (well, from Lush onwards). Plus it contains Lush 3, Impact, Walk Now, Remind, and HALCYON.

The US and UK version of Green are completely different but I do still love Speed Freak, Oolaa and High Rise (and obviously that closing Chime-Midnight-Belfast kiss off) - the rest I can take or leave. Probably my least favourite of the lot of them overall though, except possibly The Altogether.

The first three tracks on MoN are so mindblowingly amazing that I can forgive any so-so stuff that follows it (and Nothing Left is kinda wonderful too).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dan - have you heard the Live Style mix of Chime? If that doesn't convince you nothing will (even if it is too short for those of us who've come to love the messed-up acidy end to Chime when they do it live).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i always felt the orbial 2 (the brown album) hung together much beter than all the others. and while in sides> was complete brilliance end to end - it was much shorter; so the brown album always won out becuase of it quantity. obviously the quality was there too, but that same quality is on all the others too.

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and you're right about the instrumental Illuminate thing, but that's because David Gray's voice is fucking TERRIBLE and RUINS the whole thing.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dyson - InSides is about 70 minutes long - how much longer do you WANT it to be?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 14:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You see I don't get that idea of Orbital at all; with each of their albums up to and including Middle Of Nowhere they DID change what they were doing, alter the ideas they had and move forward. Sure, you could always tell it was Orbital, but this was because it was a development and progression rather than a revolution. Part of my problem with The Altogether was that it almost seemed as if they'd run out of ideas and ways to change, and had in part headed backwards ("Funny Break") and in part taken wrong decisions / given in to cliché (the David Gray thing / "Dr"). With the new one it's as if they recognise that this entropy was unassailable and so decided to make an album that didn't even TRY to broach new ground ("Transient" excepted), but rather sounded so much like their older material that it could almost be an homage or tribute, and thus give older fans a kind of retroactive buzz rather than the excitement of anything new.

But then I don't like to treat any music like "a precious beautiful piece of porcelain on the mantelpiece"; I want a certain amount of robustness alongside my beauty, a certain pragmatism with my idealism.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Bath Time is horrendous

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the only problem with The Altogether for me is that there's just not enough to a lot of the tracks. 'Tension' should be even mightier than it is, MORE BASS MORE NOISE! things like 'Shadows' are too minimal. but 'Meltdown' and 'Last Thing' are pretty much spot on.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Double XPost to Sick:

Well, I'm not sure it's fair to say they didn't *progress* along a certain path, and that's not what I meant. But let me use an example. (and you're free to say it's a bad one) I don't recall any of Orbital's albums hitting me in the gobsmackingly surprised way Radiohead's Kid A did. I do think The Box EP was the closest thing to what I might have called a real surprise from them, a broadening of the horizons. It takes a special kind of band/artist to grow to that extent, it might even take a certain brilliance they simply don't posess, and how could we fault them for that? Surely none of us are even a smidgen as brilliant as they are.

But imagine what they might do free of each other's tether? For this I am hopeful, as I'm sure they are themselves. If I felt like weeping, I don't anymore. Good for them, you know?

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh aye, I totally agree that they've done absolutey the right thing in splitting (I actually think they would have been right to split [sorry, stop] at any point post MoN - the last two albums are nice but I could totally live without them [heck, I could live without ANY piece of music; I just doubt I would WANT to live without ANY MUSIC AT ALL]) and going seperate ways, and it'll be interesting to see what happens.

However I don't think Radiohead are a good comparison for a few reasons.

a; The 'group dynamic' is totally different to the 'fraternal duo dynamic', and almost necessitates a greater level of diverse creative input and intra-group friction leading to creative change.

b; The 'experimental rock band dynamic' is totally different to the 'techno duo' dynamic (related but different to above).

c; R'head consciously set out to change (with every record but especially) with Kid A for a myriad of reasons that would and could never influence Orbital's work.

d; Shocking and dramatic change is not necessarily more radical or worthy or 'changing' than slowly evolved, subtle change.

No two Orbital albums, to me, sound 'of a kind' in the way that Kid A and Amnesiac do.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

On that last point, you are correct, however, I believe releasing Amnesiac was a mistake in the sense that it was just leftovers from the same sessions as Kid A. There is no comparison in Orbital history that I'm aware of. I'd also like to add just as a side note, that as my friends dragged me, sleeplessly along to this idea of seeing RH live, Amnesiac had just been released and was another reason why I was less than enthused about seeing them live. Bewildered, ho-hum and just trying to stay awake, RH then proceeded to completely blow my mind in a live setting, and my expectations were torn apart.

But since we're talking about Orbital, they may indeed be the kings of live performance, so...

Sick, before I peter out on this board, what's your opinion of Octane? Or is there a review I missed somewhere?

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've never really listened to it; what I've heard I see as "functional soundtrack" and little more. It's kinda like comparing my blog or Stylus with my cataloguing or "user-manual writing".

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 July 2004 09:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm. I see...Orbital in boring soundtrack mode...hard to imagine, frankly.

Bimble (bimble), Friday, 2 July 2004 10:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
ATTENTION: Orbital are live on the John Peel Show at 11pm tonite ! i.e about 50 minutes time

tune in via the web

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ORBITAL start at 11.30 pm for 90 minutes according to Peel

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it's started.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

where is everyone?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Not at a computer?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

listening to it on the "listen again" thing right now - fucking brilliant, brings a tear to the eye.

philius fogg, Thursday, 29 July 2004 07:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

thanks for the reminder, off to 'listen now'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 29 July 2004 08:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

this into your real player for last night's show

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/peel_wed.rpm

the news over-ran, so seek forward. orbital start at about 31 mins in

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 29 July 2004 09:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

who are these wallies who keep shouting 'BADGER!'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 29 July 2004 09:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Haha I think I know them!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 July 2004 09:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

you know there's less charm to a live gig played by a faceless techno outfit playing on the radio and heard the next day than you might imagine ;-)

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 29 July 2004 10:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I am reviving this thread because "Acid Pants" came up on shuffle when I was listening to my iPod the other day and I practically had an orgasm.

Dan (WHEN THE LAUGHTRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Also:

I am currently trying to figure out how I can turn "Acid Pants" into a hat.

-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...) (webmail), May 1st, 2004. (link)

Roffle.

Dan (Where Are The Earflaps?) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You haberdasher you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
I just heard In Sides for the first time, and I felt the need to say something about it. It was amazing, how did I not hear it quicker?! What other albums of theirs, save for Orbital 2 which I also have, are as amazing as In Sides?!

Harrison Barr (Petar), Thursday, 22 June 2006 23:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Easy: Snivilisation.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 22 June 2006 23:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Good as Orbital are, I always think they sound a bit like the soundtrack to a documentary about fish.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 22 June 2006 23:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Maybe that's just me.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 22 June 2006 23:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Halcyon and On and On was my favourite song when I was ten years old. Maybe I'm just tired but I find that to be somewhat amusing. Orbital will always have a place in my heart. From the hackers/mortal kombat soundtrack to the brown album to the stories I'd be so enamoured over about playing Impact in the dark.

Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

After reading through this thread this morning I've had Chime stuck in my head all day. Not an altogether bad thing, really!

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Damnit, I came this close to pulling out the Blue album recently and well...I did pull it out but didn't actually manage to get it into my CD player. I don't even know where it is right now, to be frank. Too many piles...I did pull out the Brown album though, played the whole thing, that was fabulous. It's kindof hard to believe that something of that kind of electronic style and the sounds they used could still sound so great today, what 13 years later?

I could have sworn I heard that Peel show Martian was on about upthread. Maybe it was being talked about on another Orbital thread.

Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry (Bimble...), Friday, 23 June 2006 04:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Here's a review I found on amazon of the Brown album. It was the only one that didn't give it five stars (he gave it three):

1 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
Orbital, as in round and round on the same old trak, September 7, 2005
Reviewer: DRYWASHER-BILL (LAS VEGAS, NEVADA) - See all my reviews
The DJ must've been lacking filler on the CD to include the rather monotonous first 3 traks. Sure you get into the vibe as you clik through the traks, but musically, it takes Orbital a long time to morph into progressive takes in the songs. It's like a pounding headache- you can hear the thumps, but can't figure out if it's your head or the track.

Take an aspirin and get some other CD, maybe even a compilation which seems the best route for the genre. At least there are more hits and good traks in a comp and if you find you like certain people, then go after them specifically.

Orbital 2 is one of those disks you should play while in the car with the windows rolled up. People think you are listening to something def from the beat, but you'll know different

Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry (Bimble...), Friday, 23 June 2006 05:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(1 star) This is techno, not IDM, November 19, 2002
Reviewer: R. Seals (UC Berkeley) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
I was fooled by many reviewers/fans of IDM who heaped praises upon this duo. Don't be a sheep. This music is 100% techno. It has some ambient moments, but that means little. The point is that these beats are for the dance floor and not for the ears/mind. Stay away from this trash... What silly music.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 23 June 2006 05:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

FOOLED by reviewers and fans of IDM! Cunts!

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 23 June 2006 05:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Geir's lost twin.

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 23 June 2006 05:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've got to go with C. As noted above, most of Orbital still sounds pretty good years later.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Friday, 23 June 2006 10:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

If you factor out the beats, Middle of Nowhere in particular sounds really contemporary now. Some of it's chunkier moments are exactly like modern German electrohouse.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 June 2006 10:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Geir's lost twin.

Well, I couldn't give a flying crap about whether something works on the dancefloor or not. But I still love Orbital. For other reasons.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

sexy reasons

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"If you factor out the beats, Middle of Nowhere in particular sounds really contemporary now. Some of it's chunkier moments are exactly like modern German electrohouse. "

ha ha matt you're coming round to my way of thinking!

Yes Middle of Nowhere is very good, basically halfway b/w Orbital 2 and In Sides.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

THE GIRL WITH THE SUN IN HER HEAD IS THE BEST THING EVER YOU GUYS

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 21:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

semi-detached / attached on peel sessions says no way.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

amen to that

blunt, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

but ok, you've got a point. seeing that live in new orleans 1995 was mind (body and soul) boggling.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hey, you're the guy who called me a "giant cocksucking douche"!

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=6826

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 07:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

anybody like the new solo stuff they've been up to? Long Range?

i'm a huge fan of 'Just One More', it's got a really moody riff going on.

Ste, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 14:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

you're right Nick. sorry about that (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showpost.php?p=81814&postcount=13)

i do still think your review was pretty bad. you complimented the album for most of the review then gave it a C-. anyway, i could debate the review but it's your opinion after all.

no hard feelings? btw, did you google yourself and find that post or do you check the UW forums?

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

Isn't it great when you read a thread and then spend an hour listening to stuff you've not heard for five years and remember what the meaning of life is again?

Kaliova, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 17:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://pacside.com/underthe%20skies%20above.jpg

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 18:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

no hard feelings? btw, did you google yourself and find that post or do you check the UW forums?

Googled myself - see this for my immediate response! - http://sickmouthy.blogspot.com/2007/11/google-you.html

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 18:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

"I was driving home from work one winter evening when I saw two lights
emanating from a strange object in front of me. My car began to lose power, and eventually stopped. It was completely dark. Then, strange circles of white light began to flash on and off. The next thing I knew it was fifteen minutes later, and I was traveling down the road in a different part of the village. I am convinced I was selected by aliens earlier in the day, and later rejected."

LC1: loving the tune but feel bad for the guy.

ledge, Monday, 17 March 2008 16:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

On September 21, a reunited Orbital (Brothers Phil and Paul Hartnoll) will perform new music and classic cuts in the US for the first time in five years, at the inaugural Electronic Music Awards, live from downtown Los Angeles on Twitter. The performance follows a successful UK run of impressive performances at the WAM Festival in Spain, Forbidden Fruit in Dublin, Supersonic in Japan, the Brussels Summer Festival, and the Bluedot plus Standing Calling festivals in the UK. Additionally, the duo announced December 2017 dates at both London Hammersmith Apollo and Manchester Apollo which sold out in less than 24 hours upon announcement.

The duo’s new single, Copenhagen, which has been playlisted by BBC 6 Music, is streaming now. Orbital’s performance at the EMAs, personally requested by Executive Producer Paul Oakenfold himself, will be the duo’s first live show in the US in five years with a new album on the horizon.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink


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