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I did a due diligence search for this and as far as I can tell we haven't done this one before, surprisingly. I'm seeing the Dan next weekend in NYC and I've been listening to this obsessively. It's a really hard choice but I'm going with Deacon Blues.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Deacon Blues 22
Peg 16
Black Cow 6
Aja 5
Home At Last 4
Josie2
I Got the News 0


ablaeser, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Josie

usic, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

wheres option "it was alex in nyc"

and what, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

black cow... but they're all great. didn't think so at the time. luckily i've learnt that lesson.

nonightsweats, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

x-post: What?

ablaeser, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

really tough.
everything is great except from Peg, which is also great but played out (though it won the best Dan song in the ilm poll, and will probably win now)
i'll go with my current favourite - Home At Last

Zeno, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Deacon Blues" but I'll change my mind tomorrow.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Peg 12
Deacon Blues 6
Black Cow 2
Josie 1
Aja 1
I Got The News 0
Home At Last 0

You knew it was inevitable...The Steely Dan Song Poll

Zeno, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

The title track all the way for me.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Deacon Blues for sure

baaderonixx, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Deacon Blues" no doubt, but I love "Home At Last" and "Black Cow" and "Peg" and "I Got The News" too. I tend to rep for Countdown or Royal Scam as my favorite Dan album since they're a little underrated compared to this one, but Aja really is unfuckwithable.

some dude, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

^ Agree with that post in it's entirety, except to substitute Josie for Peg.

Frogman Henry, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

"I tend to rep for Countdown or Royal Scam as my favorite Dan album since they're a little underrated compared to this one"

depends who you ask.Countdown To Ecstasy is the favourite Dan record for many fans, including myself.
Steely Dan themselvs don't like the record so much, and they said somewhere that the people who think Ecstasy is the best Dan record are crazy.

Zeno, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Black Cow this week. But what the hell is it about? A drink?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

And if so, what is the recipe?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ahh, the internet. When I tried to look this up a few years ago I found nothing. Now I am overwhelmed with info. So root beer and ice cream and chocolate source? In a bar?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

John Justen and Fluffy Bear Will Drink Your Big Black Cow and Get Out Of Here

some dude, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

Four recipes here, incl. a Green Cow. One of these surely will screen out the sorrow, but where are you tomorrow?

scampering alpaca, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

in the corner of my eye, i saw you in
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1267/769783020_c6606269c7.jpg?v=0
you were very high.

Zeno, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is it too late to change the title of this thread to "Take your big black POLL and get out of here"?

ablaeser, Friday, 20 June 2008 01:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

LEARN TO WERK THE SAXUHPHONE

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 20 June 2008 02:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

this may be the first time i've ever agreed with geir. the last half is sex.

strgn, Friday, 20 June 2008 02:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

of 'aja'

strgn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

the song

strgn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm at the point of disliking this album, but I vote "Deacon Blues." Other than "Peg," the rest is stuff they perfected on Gaucho

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

We need a Gaucho poll. Geir, start one!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

This is my least favorite Steely Dan album, but it's still not bad. "Peg" and "Deacon Blues" are my favorite tracks.

o. nate, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

(I guess Alfred and I see eye to eye on this one.)

o. nate, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm at the point of disliking this album, but I vote "Deacon Blues." Other than "Peg," the rest is stuff they perfected on Gaucho

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

I don't hear much of anything on Gaucho that resembles "Black Cow" or "Home At Last" or "Aja," especially not anything better.

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think they took off a bit too much of the disco from Royal Scam to Aja, but they brought some of it back on Gaucho.

o. nate, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's been said many times on the Gaucho thread, but I'll repeat: they wrote masterfully about ennui, dessication, and despair on Gaucho. I'm not sure what "Black Cow" and "Home At Last" are about beyond their instrumental virtuosity. I mean, they're pretty, I don't skip the tracks, but so what?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Good, I will listen to this today. I have to vote for "Peg," but it's sad that I can't also vote for "Deacon Blues." (Nothing like a Steely Dan poll to bring everyone out of the woodwork.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sorry, didn't realize you evaluate songs as if they're text and not music.

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

black cow seems like it's about a splintering relationship or friendship, i haven't figured it yet.

omar little, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sorry, didn't realize you evaluate songs as if they're text and not music.

I didn't realize you wouldn't read my post correctly.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think he read it perfectly fine...? I mean, why do the songs have to be "about" anything unless you're someone who privileges lyrics?

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

Songs can't say what they mean through music? My post said nothing about lyrics.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

So the chord changes and solos on Aja don't communicate ennui, dessication, and despair as well as they do on Gaucho. Gotcha.

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

1977 was an off year for the mu major chord.

David R., Friday, 20 June 2008 19:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

they wrote masterfully about ennui, dessication, and despair on Gaucho. I'm not sure what "Black Cow" and "Home At Last" are about beyond their instrumental virtuosity. I mean, they're pretty, I don't skip the tracks, but so what?

How about buying a collection of good poems instead then?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Friday, 20 June 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like Geir when he's saucy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 21 June 2008 00:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

drink scotch whiskey all night long

PappaWheelie V, Sunday, 22 June 2008 03:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

So when's the "Pretzel Logic" one? (my favourite by them besides "Aja")

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 22 June 2008 18:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm pleasantly shocked by the landslide for Deacon Blues. Well done, ILM.

ablaeser, Monday, 23 June 2008 02:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also, Steely Dan totally rocked the Beacon yesterday, great show.

ablaeser, Monday, 23 June 2008 02:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Surprised that "I Got the News" and "Josie" did so poorly. Those would be my 3rd and 4th picks.

o. nate, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hey- I was at that Beacon show too. Good show - would have liked to hear a few more pre-Royal Scam tunes, but good stuff.

o. nate, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw the tuesday night show at the beacon... I wish becker didn't sing on gaucho or do that narrative bit on hey nineteen. both were a little embarrassing. maybe fagen felt he had to throw him a bone since they played one of his solo tracks?

anyway, great show otherwise! and they played more gaucho material than aja, if memory serves. so the dan like gaucho better too!

original bgm, Monday, 23 June 2008 18:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pretzel Logic is the only stepchild in the SD discography for me

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Really? Why d'you say that? Because it's their most concise/poppiest record?

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Wayne Shorter's solo is nothing to sneeze at either. I love that one ascending part where it feels like he's reaching for the cosmos.

― Moodles, Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's just astonishing

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:29 (one week ago) Permalink

xpost

I would have to go look at the tracklist but it's the only one that has real lulls for me. Obv it has some immortal stuff on it.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:31 (one week ago) Permalink

'Any Major Dude...' is one of my all-time favourite Steely Dan tracks.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh definitely. Maybe top 5 for me.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:14 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't think there's a dud on Gaucho, the ones you didn't mention (Glamour Profession, My Rival, Time Out Of Mind) are all pretty close to the equal of the four you like!)

btw re: the title track, never knew about the Keith Jarrett lawsuit (I'm sure it's been covered here), but damn I guess he had a good case...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QNK4Pc8W2A

nomar, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't really like either 'My Rival' and 'Time Out Of Mind' ... 'Glamour Profession' sounds great for its first minute but then I find myself tuning out... it's probably the weariest sounding "disco" tune I've ever heard, but weary sounding disco was probably what they were going for.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:27 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah it definitely was, I can see how you could see that song as conceptually or intellectually interesting but not enjoyable musically. it's probably my favorite SD song, but only if i can have the demo where Fagen sings the chorus & it sounds like a C90 bounce.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:30 (one week ago) Permalink

That's prrrrobably my favorite SD lyric

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Glamour Profession is the essence of Gaucho for me and one of the greatest things they ever did

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:32 (one week ago) Permalink

I like the way Fagen sings "Barbados" as "Barbadeuce" ...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I totally agree with the above re: Glamour Profession. Perfect portrait of a specific type of hanger-on cretin that you'll no doubt meet in the drug world & in LA. I love the second verse so much, the last line is amazing in the context of the song: "I drove the Chrysler / watched from the darkness while they danced."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:56 (one week ago) Permalink

I still have a dream of making a cool house track out of Glamour Profession samples, but I haven't been able to make it work so far

Moodles, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:13 (one week ago) Permalink

brut and charisma poured from the shadow where he stood

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:24 (one week ago) Permalink

Jack with his radar
Stalking the dread moray eel

nomar, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Scam has one foot in LA / "elsewhere" but the album art is so overt with the Chrysler building reference that to me it's an NY album

calstars, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:34 (one week ago) Permalink

They hated that cover, though, and it was originally created for an unreleased Van Morrison album.

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't mind it, but it's still one of my least favourite Steely Dan sleeves... Can't Buy a Thrill is probably their worst.

The sleeve to Katy Lied is my favourite.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:53 (one week ago) Permalink

even so, it captures the atmosphere of the record perfectly... all i see is steam & grit & smog & slime... definitely a new york record

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:54 (one week ago) Permalink

this is neat, haven't heard it in a while, don't remember the audio quality being this good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EkDDzpPrk

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:29 (one week ago) Permalink

wow...very nice! sounds like Gadd on drums?
and that staccato part ~~~~~~~
whole thing almost like a sister to aja.

calstars, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:35 (one week ago) Permalink

mp3
https://ufile.io/lt3n4

calstars, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:37 (one week ago) Permalink

Am I the only fan of this band that doesn't care for Deacon Blues at all?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:33 (one week ago) Permalink

nope, same here.

new noise, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:36 (one week ago) Permalink

come on the lyrics alone make it classic

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Love it, but I actually don't care that much for Josie.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, I love the lyrics to 'Deacon Blues' ... the first two lines are such a fuckin' funny way to open a song.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:53 (one week ago) Permalink

I used to think that I Got The News was the only dud here, but I've learned to love the herky-jerk rhythm and Victor Feldman's piano

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (one week ago) Permalink

yup the piano makes that track

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:50 (one week ago) Permalink

'I Got The News' rules.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:23 (one week ago) Permalink

aw man, when Michael McDonald comes in on that one, so good

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:26 (one week ago) Permalink

weird, i would rate the other four tracks ahead of those

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:55 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't dislike any of the songs on Gaucho, but side 1 is perfect.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

I mean, same goes for Aja though

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

I used to think that I Got The News was the only dud here, but I've learned to love the herky-jerk rhythm and Victor Feldman's piano

An amazing drummer friend in college used to tool on the drums to this. They were not performed by one of the Porcaro/Gadd/Purdie masters but Ed Greene (Ed Greene (2) according to Discogs) but more importantly, he thought the fact that the guy did the same fill or two throughout more or less the whole song was kind of weak.

I'm not particularly bothered by it today but I do think I see his point. The part is not in the same league as songs on the rest of the album.

Also worth noting that I believe Roger Nichols didn't have the same involvement in the engineering of this record as compared to the others, which helps explain Aja didn't *sound* quite as lush as the records before and after it (tho it is certainly every bit as smooth if not more so).

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 15 September 2017 15:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Side one of Aja takes a great steaming shit all over side one of Gaucho.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 15 September 2017 18:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Counterpoint: no it doesn't

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 15 September 2017 19:10 (one week ago) Permalink

the real answer might be that whatever Steely Dan album out of the first 7 is your favorite, you're right (mine changes all the time.)

nomar, Friday, 15 September 2017 19:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I agree with nomar.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 15 September 2017 19:23 (one week ago) Permalink

xp to naive teen idol

that's really interesting. i wasn't talking about the drum performance in particular (which I agree is not the best) but the rhythm of the song in general as defined by the bassline. keeps the whole thing off-balance and makes the lyrics seem even weirder than they already are

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:16 (one week ago) Permalink

man "Stand by the Seawall" is niiiice

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry

― gospodin simmel, Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:45 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well

― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, September 14, 2017

dude "Third World Man"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Gaucho the song is the defining moment of their career for me. The perfect climax right near the very end of their first run.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Yes

calstars, Saturday, 16 September 2017 02:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Let me be clear, I consider gaucho a perfect album and I love every song on it, but those three songs I love especially madly

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 16 September 2017 03:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Whenever I put Gaucho on, which admittedly isn't often and mostly when it crops up in conversation, it's very rare that I make it to the end of side one, finding myself wanting to turn it off about a couple of minutes into 'Glamour Profession' ' if I do make it to side two, then I find myself wanting to switch it off after the title track. It's a shame that 'Third World Man' is buried at the end.

Mark Knopfler is on Gaucho, but I find Brothers in Arms a more engaging record.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 16 September 2017 07:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Not enough FPs in the world...

Moodles, Saturday, 16 September 2017 11:43 (one week ago) Permalink


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