Worst Of These Mid-Late 90s UK Bands?

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Deliberately left off Oasis and co, This is the real dregs of UK Guitar Pop in the mid to late 90s.

It will be tough to choose, but choose you must!

Hopefully someone better qualified will do an American equivalent.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Stereophonics 27
Ocean Colour Scene 23
Reef 11
Kula Shaker 11
Space 9
Seahorses 7
Catatonia 5
Cast 5
Gomez 4
Shed 7 3
Dodgy 3
3 Colours Red 3
Longpigs 2
Travis 2
Menswear 2
Sleeper 2
Gene 2
Supernaturals2
Bluetones 0


Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it has to be Ocean Colour Scene

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Seahorses.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

But to be honest any band here whose name isn't a shorthand for 'irrepressible hilarity' is doing pretty well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Stereophonics

nate woolls, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I had to leave Gay Dad off to stop them running away with it.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I have to vote for/against Nazi Kula Shaker.

HOWEVER - no 18 Wheeler, no cred.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

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Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Cast, the Swinging Blue Jeans, The, of Britpop, would come a close second though by virtue of being so bloody BORING.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

None of these bands have anything defensible. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Dodgy probably should win because of Good Enough which is probably the worst song of the Britpop Years.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i could vote for all of these c*nts except maybe dodgy who i had a small soft spot for.

sam500, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I still own a single or 2 by:

Dodgy
Sleeper
Gene
Bluetones
Shed 7
Longpigs

Every other band I hated even back in those dark days.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually I lied about the Bluetones, I sold Are You Blue Or Are You Blind on Ebay a few years ago.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

for 10p?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Nah about £7 I think. It's the only one that's worth anything apart from the gig-only Slight Return 7"

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

bear gait.

Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Although yes the reason I still own Dodgy and Longpigs singles is that they won't even fetch 10p.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Haven't Dodgy already been co-opted by the Guilty Pleasures mob hyuk hyuk?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Riverboat Song" has a decent riff
Dodgy have enough inoffensive shit to give them a pass
"Slight Return" is a banger
Shed 7 are funny to pretend to like because they cause a lot of indie butthurtedness
Other than that, stfu, gas face.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Dodgy were sort of not-completely-shit pre-Free Peace Sweet. Also they're from Worcestershire.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Phil Collins thought Dodgy were the best Britpop band.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

They were fucking shit live though.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

This lot all had at least a few good songs, often more:
Dodgy
Shed 7
Travis
Longpigs
Bluetones
Gomez
Meanswe@r

These three I either had a vague soft spot for despite myself, or else don't know enough to comment:
Reef
3 Colours Red
Gene

These are all fucking shit:
Catatonia
Ocean Colour Scene
Stereophonics
Cast
Sleeper
Kula Shaker
Seahorses
Space
Supernaturals

Where's Embrace?

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Phil Collins thought Dodgy were the best Britpop band.

-- Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:13 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

None of these bands ever did a song a tenth as good as "Jesus He Knows Me"

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Mod req question but is there any chance that LouJag will return before this poll ends?

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

LJ will be too busy dissecting Amy Winehouse lyrics for his degree

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422730.stm

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ just having noticed "CHRIS EVANS" at the bottom of that cover

xpost just read that and that did briefly cross my mind!

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Fucking Cantab Cool Police.

"The Riverboat Song" is worse than 9/11.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL never saw chris evans on it. I actually did watch TFI Friday everyweek.
x-post

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty sure Ljag's return is within the next five days.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Stereophonics. I thought you said this was going to be a difficult choice? Are you just baiting Geir here?

Bad, but too mediocre to be memorable in any way other than vague memory of some signature "quirk":

Catatonia
Cast
Reef
Seahorses
3 Colours Red
Shed 7
Space

One or two half-decent tunes in their repertoire (not that I'd choose to listen to them, I'd probably not turn them off id they came on the radio though):

Dodgy
Sleeper
Bluetones
Menswear
Kula Shaker
Space

Horrible:

Ocean Colour Scene
Stereophonics
Gene
Reef

No memory of whatsoever beyond vague recollection of seeing name in Melody Maker:

Gomez
Travis
Longpigs
Supernaturals

None of these bands ever did a song a tenth as good as "Jesus He Knows Me"

On the money. The tune for JHKM is at least memorable. For all it was supposedly a genre based on alleged "classic" "songwriting" "beatles" "are kid" it's very hard to actually call up any of these band's tunes beyond a couple of lines from the odd chorus. EG I cannot remember a single one of Cast's songs. Not one. And they were on the radio all the time. Also, you forgot the lightning seeds.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Riverboat Song" is worse than 9/11.

-- Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:19 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

AFTER ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE SEEN
TELL ME WHY DOES YOUR RIVER RUN GREEN

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Where is Silver Sun useless straight-to-MVE band?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I never got why Bluetones were so hated. Was it because they were seen as bandwagon hoppers?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I once watched Stereophonics at Glastonbury, in one of the rainy years and around the 11am slot, and pretended not to hate them to curry favour with the girl I was with. While watching them she dismissed my very tentative advances. Thinking about it this may well be a definitive low point in my life

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't know whether to put Embrace on it or not. All these bands were probably worse. I nearly put Placebo & Ash on.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Ocean Colour Scene. Special award to Sleeper's Louise Wener for being fucking irritating.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

BLUE TONES - early warning of latent Thatcherism in belly of New Labour!

Also "Slight Return" was basically tonight Matthew we're going to be Aztec Camera.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Bands who I like to some extent:
Catatonia
Gene
Travis
Longpigs

Bands who are just there:
Cast
Dodgy
Sleeper
Menswear
Gomez
Kula Shaker
3 Colours Red
Space
Supernaturals

Bands who actively suck:

Ocean Colour Scene
Stereophonics (though Dakota was agreat single)
Cast
Reef
Seahorses
Shed 7

Reef are the worst of that last bunch, they don't even have decent haircuts.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I never got why Bluetones were so hated. Was it because they were seen as bandwagon hoppers?
Nah, I think it was cos of the records. Also, I saw them twice in '95 and they were fucking terrible.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"You don't have to have the solution You've just got to understand the problem"

Fit this lyric in a song. No, that does not fit.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not fit either.

Octopus and Heavy Stereo fan will be disappointed with this list.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.absoluteagogo.com/ultrapromo.jpg

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

Do it!

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Perfume, anyone? And how could we forget Northern Uproar? Or Hurricane #1?

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

lol Hurricane #1 were a particular hate of mine cos I was a big Ride fan pre-Britpop.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I've listened to The Bluetones several times over the last year, having not listened to them for about 8-10 years prior, and they're actually alright. Good guitarist, good drummer, by the second album actually doing some quite interesting not-Britpop-at-all-really things.

Gomez's first album was alright; again, not really Britpop. More Beck goes proper blues. I guess they were seen as "inauthentic student scum" though. One of their later albums, forget the title, is really good, very eclectic, great production, electronics and brass and pop hooks.

Embrace and Ash I guess both survived way beyond Britpop and kept knocking out charting singles for years afterwards.

Travis' first album was actually pretty good, when they still rocked a bit.

Longpigs had about three great singles on the first album. A mate swears blind the second album is a lost classic.

Shed 7 at least had some decent singles, Dolphin and a handful off the second record.

Homegrown by Dodgy is, I'd say, a pretty classic Britpop record; embodies a lot of the spirit of that without the nastiness, sounds very of its time rather than being totally retro, still hasn't dated that badly, great production, some awesome arrangements. Shame Free Peace Sweet is FUCKING HORRIFIC.

Kula Shaker amusingly goofy until nazi breakout.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Space are the most obnoxiously scouse act in history. And obnoxious scouse <<<<<<<<< obnoxious any other region.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

disliking the bluetones and not hating them as much as you hate reef/OCS/stereophonics are not the same thing. I can't imagine a world with reef in it where someone hates the bluetones more. perhaps if there were a ranking systems rather than an OPO situation, it might have been different. but hey, that's polls for you. if a thread with 300+ answers doesn't explain stuff, maybe polls aren't the way to settle this shit?

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

^ ignore grammatical errors there, my abilities in that area disappeared along with my will to live somewhere upthread.

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I actually thought Bluetones were worse than Reef. Each to their own I guess.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

But presumably you thought someone else was worse still. you didn't vote for them, why assume someone else is going to?

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

do you understand how polling even works?

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

obviously not :)

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually I've just been reminded why I hated The Bluetones. They were on the cover of Raw Magazine when it changed from an open minded Heavy Rock/Alternative/Metal mag to a full on Britpop mag. I loved that magazine and it lasted about 2 or 3 issues tops because of that change, and The Bluetones symbolizes the whole thing for me just like Limp Bizkit on the cover of the last Melody Maker does for others.
Obviously that's just for me though and no reason why anyone else should have voted Bluetones.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys just dont hate britpop as much as americans hate nu-metal.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 9 June 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

ocs were robbed

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

no. no they really really really really really fucking weren't.

stereophonics never recorded a fun, silly, 7-minute rave-up like 'get away'. they sucked precisely 100% of the time.

kell surprise (country matters), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i agree that OCS sucked precisely 100% of the time.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i forgot Dom hated Space so much. Whatever happened to Space? they've been forgotten more than the others.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Surely someone on ILM liked Space?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

louis?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

space allowed their keyboardist to write precisely one song ('Piggies') and it was by 10,000 miles the best thing they did, hence they suuuuuuuck (and yeah, their main body of work is craven)

kell surprise (country matters), Thursday, 1 October 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

wonder if they will be doing the chicken in the basket clubs in 20 years time

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

following in the footsteps of gerry and the pacemakers

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I confess to liking Space at the time. Some of their songs anyway. Dark Clouds for sure. You and Me Against The World is on an old mixtape that's still in my car so I must've enjoyed it at one point. I also recall being annoyed that I could never find their second album. On reflection that seems like a lucky situation.

everything, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I cant even remember them having a second album. The singles must have bombed. I do remember one of the band leaving though.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

the second album had 'diary of a wimp' on it which i really liked

i'm the unban spaceman (electricsound), Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

dont recall that at all

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Every single one of those bands on that list were absolute turgid clunkers.

I scanned down the list in ten seconds and they were all there.

Copper Girl by 3 Colours Red was a good song though. Sorry

Fer Ark, Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i think with the exception of seahorses (who are one of the worst groups of all time) and longpigs (who i've never heard), all these bands have one song (or more) i like. in most cases it's only one though.

i'm the unban spaceman (electricsound), Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Kula Shaker -- as indefensibly silly as they were -- were WAY better than most of these crappy bands, and Gene's debut was great.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

funnily enough esoj, i thought love is the law by the seahorses was good (everything else was crap).
I actually saw the seahorses at the glasgow garage before the single was out. Love Is the Law was the only song anyone had heard.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh i can't remember how it goes!

alex otm about gene, love that first album

i'm the unban spaceman (electricsound), Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

it sounded like it was off the second coming. I love that album but if you didnt then you wont care for love is the law.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

space allowed their keyboardist to write precisely one song ('Piggies')

didn't he get one techno-noodle whoosh-out per album too? I liked Space at the time. They had the schoolkid whose mum let the Teardrop Explodes rehearse in her house in 'em.

New Wavves (sic), Friday, 2 October 2009 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

haha!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i found the 1st space cd single "neighbourhood" that i got for 50p from Impulse Records in Hamilton. I barely remember it. I mostly rememember female of the species and that horrid track with catatonia.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

the ballad of tom jones is funny if you're 13!

kell surprise (country matters), Friday, 2 October 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

im glad i wasnt 13!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Worst Of These Mid-Late 90s UK Bands?

Just wanted to point out that shortly after this sequence of posts I encountered a British counterpart at work who was at this Glastonbury appearance and proclaimed it to be the greatest concert experience of his life; it took everything I had not to laugh in his face what with my memory of this clip.

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

the seahorses vocalist was by far the worst in britpop

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

mind you, the worst singing in that clip is the drummer

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the chorus on that Glastonbury link is still fucking hysterical

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah and the worst part is by the drummer. I thought it was chris helme until i realised he had stopped and it was the drummer who was even more out of tune.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha I am having the exact same reaction I had the first time I played this; WHY IS IT STILL GOING

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

so you can hear the solo!!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The drummer out of Space died recently, i think. (he was the Teardrops anecdote guy wasn't he?)
heard Catatonia's Road Rage on the radio today, somewhat surprisingly.

j.o.n.a, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

who on earth was playing that?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

every now and then I stumble across or search out this thread and listen to that wretched Seahorses video

it is always hilarious, and then tedious

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

you talking about ilx?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 20 October 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

every now and then I stumble across or search out this thread and listen to that wretched Seahorses video

it is always hilarious, and then tedious

― do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me OTM

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

link? fucked if I'm going through this whole thread

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

Some quality vocals there

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

Not sure i've ever actually heard some of those notes before?

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Oh god, this shit again!?!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

'Tis the season!

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link


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