S/D: The Turtles

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Its funny how this band had a) huge hits, b) made insanely great sample fodder, and c) played a pivotal role in the T. Rex sound ... and yet I know anything about their actual output, nor to my knowlege have I ever met a fan or seen them included in any discussion of 60s psych. what is the deal.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"don't know anything"

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

LP produced by Ray Davies any good...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I AM A FAN. WE HAVE MET. CAPSLOCK UNINTENTIONAL

jaxon, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't heard the album Davies produced (being a Turtle neophyte myself), but I do recommend the fairly solid/often silly Battle of the Bands ("Elenore," "You Showed Me").

Terrible Cold, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Elenore fucking rulz

Cheif was a break from way back in the days before rap records too, but ath Steady B Serious remix has recontextualized that track forever in my mind.

PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Great band. You need to meet more people Shakey.

c) played a pivotal role in the T. Rex sound

You mean Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman's backing vocals, I presume? In which case you might have added:

d) played a pivotal role in the destruction of whatever cred Frank Zappa still had at the start of the 70s

Tom D., Thursday, 17 April 2008 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

hey this Battle of the Bands album is awesome! and really funny. love the use of "you're my pride and enjoy, etcetera" in Elenore, the food song with the brownie recipe, "Surfer Dan".... good shit

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

and omg that I Am Chief Kamawamalea break - teh awesome

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Destroy : Outside Chance ... for inventing Ocean Colour Scene.

Thomas, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

eh?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

you don't think it sounds like the template for the 3rd-rate fag-end of britpop? not that i'm seriously blaming the Turtles for those crimes of course.

Thomas, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe I just don't have a good idea of what Ocean Colour Scene really sound like, but to me Outside Chance is just a fairly generic 60s garage band type track.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

...which happened to be written by a pre-fame Warren Zevon.

I got to see Flo & Eddie w/the newest editon of the Turtles a couple years back. Fun show. They did the expected hits, plus a bit of comedy and some trivia, like a song they wrote when they were staff writers for Strawberry Shortcake. Afterwards they joked about all the subliminal messages they stuck into that and other shows they worked on. ("We've been messing your kids up for years!")

C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"you don't think it sounds like the template for the 3rd-rate fag-end of britpop?"

i thought it was "you showed me" that invented bad brit 90's trippop? i actually liked the lightning seeds cover. but it's nowhere near as brilliant as the original:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ANPGyzmgvk4

Maria :D, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

and sorry to be a broken record, but the album that everyone needs:

The Turtles Thread (Cuz I Couldn't Find One) A.K.A. I Finally Heard Turtle Soup.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, i love the first album and i love battle of the bands, but turtle soup is just flat-out amazing. near perfect. "hot little hands" is my jam of jams.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

actually i don't even know if it aint me babe is their first album. but i like it. and i like happy together. and i really need a vinyl copy of you baby. i just found a nice mono copy of happy together.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I am currently searching for Turtle Soup... lolz it took me at least three or four listens before I got the filthy little pun in I'm Chief Kamanawanalea

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

*cough*

gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah grabbed that earlier - hurray for blogs

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

'Outside Chance' is a brilliant track. If only Ocean Colour Scene had been half as good...

zeus, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone had to ask: would it be accurate to say that this band is completely misrepresented by "Happy Together"?

res, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

wow scott totally OTM abotu Turtle Soup - grab that shit yo

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

altho kinda annoying that it includes several songs from Battle of the Bands. I hate when bands do that.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Seek: "Goodbye Surprise," which sounds more like Uriah Heep than anything else.

Also seek: the Top 20 hits "She's My Girl" and "You Know What I Mean," two of my very favorite songs of all.

Joseph McCombs, Saturday, 18 July 2009 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

can't get enough of these guys lately. their "20 greatest hits" compilation is incredibly solid, perhaps more so than 99% of 60s pop acts. even "happy together", which has been utterly exhausted by years of oldies radio and advertisements, sounds incredibly fresh when placed among its family. these guys were genius arrangers. "you baby", "you showed me", "she's my girl"..."love in the city" is a lost masterpiece!

johnnyo, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

One of my first-ever 45s was "Sound Asleep," and I was OBSESSED with the flipside, "Umbassa The Dragon." In no way the "worst record ever made' as youtube claims, but it is pretty deranged/drug addled...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99mzGJpy9g0

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

i love, love, love the Turtle Soup outtakes. 'The Owl', 'The Last Thing I Remember' and 'If We Only Had the Time' in particular are amazing tracks. better than any of the offical album tracks, imo.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

better than hot little hands!?? i'll be the judge of that! um, if i can find them somewhere. i'll look on youtube.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

there's a song on their first album called "... suburbia" (can't remember, i'm at work now). truly hilarious wimpy "ballad of a thin man" rip-off. check it out.

johnnyo, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

i love, love, love the Turtle Soup outtakes. 'The Owl', 'The Last Thing I Remember' and 'If We Only Had the Time' in particular are amazing tracks. better than any of the offical album tracks, imo.

I dunno if they're better but they're definitely equal, especially "The Owl."

international slackness (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

'If We Only Had the Time' has two distinct halves, and the second half totally reminds me of another song. Is it Blood, Sweat and Tears, maybe?? The first half is the better half anyway. Love the part with the lyrics about how 'isn't it nice, how little we have to say?/and how nice it is to say'. Although this kind of needs to be heard to be read right.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

damn "hot little hands" smokes

kamerad, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

I love The First Thing I Remember

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

last thing I remember

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

Tons of great songs!! "Outside Chance" is prolly my favorite, but they had a lot of winners.

ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 17 June 2010 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Enjoying Michael Shelley interview(s) with Howard Kaylan but not sure if I want to read his entire book.

Oulipo Traces (on a Cigarette) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:40 (nine years ago) link

in-laws are tight with Kaylan. last year for Xmas they gave me a 45 of "You Showed Me" autographed by him and Volman!

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:11 (nine years ago) link

... and yet five years ago:

I know anything about their actual output, nor to my knowlege have I ever met a fan

They'll be inviting you to join them next!

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:15 (nine years ago) link

things have changed a lot in 5 years lol

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:16 (nine years ago) link

Enjoying Michael Shelley interview(s) with Howard Kaylan but not sure if I want to read his entire book.

― Oulipo Traces (on a Cigarette) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heard one of these, it was really great. I love Flo & Eddie

mizzell, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:04 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

the '65-'66 stuff is pretty hit and miss (so many similar covers etc.) but man was this band on a roll from '67 on.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 July 2017 17:24 (four years ago) link

agree the Turtles rule. good harmonies and good songs. Battle of the Bands is a lot of fun to listen to.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 July 2017 18:15 (four years ago) link

Howard Kaylan is a fantastic singer too.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 18:25 (four years ago) link

they were the perfect fit for the Care Bears. hearing them sing and talk about a magical land of fluffy clouds and stuff just feels natural.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:35 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

What the...?

Cruel Summerisle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 September 2018 23:21 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Love this clip, especially the way Mark Volman's bouncing around with his French Horn, not even pretending to actually play. This is the side of the '60s I think Mad Men caught perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCe5L1imxg

clemenza, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 16:08 (two weeks ago) link

Future Jefferson Airplane/CSNY/Stray Gator Johnny Barbata twirling the sticks!

They repeated their performance schtick in that clip (the twirling, Volman's exaggerated miming of an instrument etc.) seemingly everytime they did that song on TV. Can only imagine the gay panic hatespeech from the control room that accompanied the awkward cutaway from Volman putting his arm around Kaylan in this Sullivan clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq3awlDqAVo

This is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JHN5HaUg28

In the comments, somebody names names on all the managers, and the "Big TV Star" part of 'Manager #6' was...Bill Cosby.


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