― Venga, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― naz, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dave q, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
there isn't a 'pick only one' for them yet as far as i can tell soi'll start and say 'waxie's dargle'. 'thousands are sailing' also killa.
― piscesboy, Friday, 13 June 2003 09:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 13 June 2003 09:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Shane was once so wasted during a gig at a festival (i don't remember which, a dutch or belgian one it was) it was almost too painfull to watch... he forgot about the cigarette he was smoking and the lyrics he was singing, just blabbering on. Until someone came from backstage to walk him off stage, supporting him like one supports an old man across the street (only to find out that he actually didn't want to...). The guitarist (clearly fed up with the situation) took over on vocals and they rushed their way through the set)
― willem (willem), Friday, 13 June 2003 10:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
POO is impossible but i'll say 'A Pair Of Brown Eyes' because my girlfriend's in the video! (and it's a classic video too)
― pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've seen a lot bands over the years, and a lot of them were really good. Really really good. Some were stunning and a few have left my jaw hanging open. Then there's The Pogues. 1987. Hollywood Palladium. The Pogues guitarist was missing for the tour - Joe Strummer was filling in.
Holy cow folks... Calling it a mere show doesn't really begin to describe the malestrom pouring off the stage. A band of desperates who clearly didn't give a fuck about anything but yet somehow channeled that all that unhinged abandon into some spectacular intense playing. I really had no previous experience to compare it to - maybe the final shootout in The Wild Bunch or something. My ass was kicked.
The funny thing was that The Pogues were the opening band that night. The headliners were Los Lobos and this night was their first LA show since "La Bamba" went #1. Los Lobos were indeed great, but one of the first thing Cesar Rosas says is "we''d like to thank The Pogues for kicking our ass tonight".
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 14 June 2003 09:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 June 2003 10:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Boys from the County Hell", "Streams of Whiskey" and "Transmetropolitan" are three of the most rip-roaring songs I've ever heard, and when you compare them to beautiful songs like "A Rainy Night in Soho", "Misty Morning, Albert Bridge", "Fairytale of New York" and "Thousands are Sailing", the guy is a total all-round genius.
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm SUCH a Pogues fan, I even like that albuim without Shane - Waiting For Herb. Heavy nostalgia / ex girl moves for me on that one tho, so no foul
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 February 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
"By the way, if you are a Pogues fan living in Glasgow, Newcastle, Birmingham,Manchester, London or Dublin and are hoping to see (the 1987-1990 line up of)The Pogues one last time, December 13 through to December 23 (2004) would be a really bad time to leave town."
The Pogues Reunion 2004
13.12.2004 - Glasgow Academy14.12.2004 - Glasgow Academy16.12.2004 - Newcastle Arena17.12.2004 - Birmingham Academy18.12.2004 - Manchester Evening News Arena20.12.2004 - London Brixton Academy21.12.2004 - London Brixton Academy23.12.2004 - Dublin Point (MCD)
― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Monday, 2 August 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 2 August 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:12 (twenty years ago) link
Ah hell, who am I kidding? Classic for Rum, Sodomy & The Lash, the finest record I own with the name "Elvis Costello" on it.
BTW, I too saw Joe Strummer playing with the Pogues (Detroit, '87) during the same tour that Chris mentioned upthread, and everything he says about that show was right on. As far as I can remember...
(They did "London Calling"! Sounded GREAT!)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link
The Joe Strummer tour was reviewed in one of the UK weekly mags with the classic headline "Rum, Sodomy and The Clash".
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― chaki, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― unperson, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki, Saturday, 31 March 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― zeus, Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
My book here says it's Shane McGowan's birthday today. He's 50 years old.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Happy christmas yer arse.
― rogermexico., Wednesday, 26 December 2007 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Last night he was on Harry Hill's TV Burp singing Fairytale of New York with a beluga whale.
― ledge, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Shouldn't this topic be "Classic or Drunk"?
― Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
It is astounding that Shane MacGowan is still alive but Kirsty MacColl is dead.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link
And I think he will be touring with the Pogues in America in March 2008
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
"ferried around america with the pogues" might be a better construction. but he made 50, that's an achievement. the man's liver gives hope to us all. really all his organs deserve respect.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Will someone please, please, please tell me who the woman is singing on this. I don't believe it's Kirsty MacColl. Please. Is this on a Pogues album? It's a b-side isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-8JpgmA0s
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Sounds like Belinda Carlisle but it's probably Cait O'Riordan.
― everything, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
that's Cait O'Riordan, who used to play bass for the Pogues until Daryl Hunt took over from "If I Should Fall..." Unfortunately, she married Elvis Costello after he produced "Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash."
That song was written by Shane MacGowan but it's on the Sid and Nancy soundtrack. It's also on the excellent Pogues box set that just came out.
― res, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link
incidentally, MONUMENTAL CLASSIC. That box set kicks fucking ass.
― res, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
also a great version of that song with sinead o'connor on shane's first solo album.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
It was a single in its own right as well. As tipsy says, there's a version on "The Snake" as well featuring Sinead O'Connor.
― ailsa, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Sinead O'Connor version is not as good, IMHO. And his solo version of "Rake at the Gates of Hell" is fucking terrible compared to the original. But, shockingly, he made another amazing Christmas song after he went solo. It's called "Christmas Lullaby" and unbelievably, it's nearly as good as "Fairytale of New York." That song was on a limited edition single only, alas.
― res, Monday, 25 August 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
i sort of prefer the sinead version, it's more wistful and draws out the melody more. both are great though. "you looked so cool you could have put out vietnam" is one of my favorite shane lines.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link
here's the video to the album version of shane/sinead. (produced by trevor horn!)
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks ILM!!!!!!!!!
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link
obligatory st paddy's day pogues video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TejJDFt6Tkk&feature=related
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Heard some BBC coverage of people gathering for the funeral, sounds like quite a send-off.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 8 December 2023 15:10 (ten months ago) link
This is the real Dublin ❤️🔥So long Shane 🙏#ShaneMacGowan pic.twitter.com/YxZtmXxxI2— Fergal Burke (@fergaljburke) December 8, 2023
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 December 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link
it seems quite mad that his funeral is being shown live on bbc, especially with his wife talking about how he took 100 acid tabs a day!
― stirmonster, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:43 (ten months ago) link
most bonkers funeral ever. fantastic.
― stirmonster, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:02 (ten months ago) link
The immanent psychiatrist, Irvin Yalom, said, “each of us creates-—often without our conscious intent or knowledge—concentric circles of influence that may affect others for years, even generations. That is, the effect we have on other people is in turn passed on to others, much as the ripples in a pond go on and on until they’re no longer visible but continuing at a nano level.” Dr. Yalom calls this idea that our own influence can ripple out to others rippling. Yalom says rippling is “leaving behind something from your life experience; some trait; some piece of wisdom, guidance, virtue, comfort, that passes onto others, known or unknown.” Rippling is the idea that that people continue to exist through the impact they have had on others. Yalom suggests everyone has the potential to affect others for years, decades and even centuries after departing this earth.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link
Glen Hansard and Lisa O'Neill performed "Fairytale of New York" to close Shane MacGowan's funeral today.pic.twitter.com/bG7mCSusmC— CONSEQUENCE (@consequence) December 8, 2023
― kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:43 (ten months ago) link
R.I.P. Shane MacGowanHere is Nick Cave performing 'A Rainy Night in Soho' at Shane's funeral in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, on Friday afternoon #ShaneMacGowan 💙pic.twitter.com/7BXaAp1CyP— 🎶Paul Lewis - Wycombe Gigs (@wycombegigs) December 8, 2023
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:07 (ten months ago) link
^Irvin Yalom OTM.Speaking of Pogues x Steve Earle, I hear related appeal in the (candidly precarious, vibrantly focused) peak albums of Justin Townes Earle (a better singer than Steve): Midnight at the Movies was my gateway, and there were several more before he started seeming so fragile that I backed off---I didn't know him, so that was okay, I thought--then he rallied for The Saint of Lost Causes, one of his best ever, then he was gone.
― dow, Friday, 8 December 2023 20:27 (ten months ago) link
those performances are so good, esp enjoyed hansard
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:32 (ten months ago) link
really feeling this one todayjust tearfully waltzed meself around the kitchen <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66quTi26YLY
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:36 (ten months ago) link
I love “Rainy Night in Soho,” but I didn’t realize its cultural impact, that it’s kind of the go-to Shane song other than “Fairytale of NY.”
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 8 December 2023 22:15 (ten months ago) link
podcast wise, “Misadventures in Music” with Ian Prowse and Mick Ord did a great ep about McGowan a couple of years ago in 2021 - very passionate & deep discussion, highly recommend also includes a good interview at the end w the Crock of Gold producer
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 23:12 (ten months ago) link
really feeling this one todayjust tearfully waltzed meself around the kitchen <3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66quTi26YLY― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, December 8, 2023 9:36 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66quTi26YLY
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, December 8, 2023 9:36 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
this and Five Green Queens are the songs I really really love from Hell's Ditch. Almost just wisps, but absurdly lovely, a kind of brilliance that's miles away from his ferocious piles of words.
― woof, Friday, 8 December 2023 23:32 (ten months ago) link
yeah the simplicity really bowls me over, just as much as his epics do
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 23:42 (ten months ago) link
I love “Rainy Night in Soho,” but I didn’t realize its cultural impact, that it’s kind of the go-to Shane song other than “Fairytale of NY.”― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, December 8, 2023 10:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, December 8, 2023 10:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yup and I can never puzzle out whether its careful ambiguity is part of the deal or sort of off to one side of a gorgeous romantic-sounding record. Cool either way, songs have their own lives.
― woof, Friday, 8 December 2023 23:59 (ten months ago) link
We have sin gasAnd con leche
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:33 (ten months ago) link
re Soho: macgowan is one of the rare few songwriters I’m not mad at rhyming arms with charms macgowan said years ago that he didnt know what it was about even while he was writing until almost the end, which is something i love theres an ease to the flow of the lyrics that makes it very believable that it just showed up fully formed he was communing with a good & kind muse that day imo
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:36 (ten months ago) link
You’re the measure of my dreams
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:43 (ten months ago) link
That one is breaking me right now
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link
fully sobbed over that line again today
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:52 (ten months ago) link
Some people they are scared to croakBut Jimmy drank until he choked
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:54 (ten months ago) link
WE WALKED HIM TO THE STATION IN THE RAINNNN
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:57 (ten months ago) link
WE KISSED HIM AS WE PUT HIM ON THE TRAIN
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:59 (ten months ago) link
That was my first response when heard about his death, just posted the chorus to Sally MacLennane. We sang him a song of times long gone, though we knew that we'd be seeing him again.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 01:00 (ten months ago) link
FARRR AWAAAY!!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 01:10 (ten months ago) link
heard them say that Jimmy's making money far awayAnd some people left for heaven without warning
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:01 (ten months ago) link
me fave:Now Jimmy didn't like his place in this world of oursWhere the elephant man broke strong men's necksWhen he'd had too many Powers
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:47 (ten months ago) link
Strangely, the lines that tend to get to me are
For to shift a few tons of this earthly delight
Yes to shift a few tons of this earthly delight
I know Shane didn't write that song but the way he delivers it just kinda works for me
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:47 (ten months ago) link
His delivery is at least as much a part of his appeal as his writing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 04:24 (ten months ago) link
And yet he was one of the rare songwriters whose lyrics are good on the page as well
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 December 2023 05:07 (ten months ago) link
Stumbled on this after watching an RTE Late Late Show tribute to McGowan from yesterday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVTYS1fR6c
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:30 (ten months ago) link
(bah, can't embed, but it's Shane and many of the same people from the tribute from the other night, from 2019. Shane in not great shape but sings a bit alongside a large band including Terry Woods)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:31 (ten months ago) link
I don’t know enough about Puddles the clown to have an opinion of him, but this is a pretty delightful performance of “A Man You Don’t Meet Every Day” with THE actual Cait O’Riordan.
https://fb.watch/oQBALSjS81/?mibextid=cr9u03
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:33 (ten months ago) link
every time I see a Puddles video I'm kind of blown away, that guy has a great voice and good schtick
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:39 (ten months ago) link
(xxpost) if you ever wanted to see Martin O'Malley (yes that one) sing a Pogues song you can see it here
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:53 (ten months ago) link
RS Album Guide
https://i.imgur.com/gd095xW.png
― omar little, Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:56 (ten months ago) link
lol @ Waiting for Herb one-star. before I knew anything about The Pogues I wanted to get one of their albums because I'd heard good things about them and that album was the only one of theirs on the rack, and rather than do research, I picked it up, and was very confused by what I was hearing. didn't even realize it was a Shane-less album at the time.
suspect it'd be easier to like if it's not your first foray into Pogue-dom and you can hear it in context but never got through the first listen
― STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:05 (ten months ago) link
Tuesday Morning is a really good song. The rest of the album I don't remember! I don't remember hating it though. It was better than the next one.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:34 (ten months ago) link
weirdly it was produced by Michael Brook (of Eno/Lanois and Edge's 'infinite guitar' fame)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 00:41 (ten months ago) link
J.D.C. = J.D. Considine?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:05 (ten months ago) link
i'm amazed there isn't more chat about the funeral. it was literally the craziest thing ever.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:16 (ten months ago) link
i can't find the whole thing online but it was cool to see Nick Cave do Rainy Night and Hansard do Fairytale. Lots of love in there. Was the terribly old man in the front pew McGowan's father? Also, was the casket in a wicker basket?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:25 (ten months ago) link
yes and yes. his father seemed to be emotionally in turmoil throughout while everyone else was having the time of their lives, his wife especially. not being judgemental here; it was very fitting, but very, very odd seeing his wife leaping over pews to dance. i'm not sure how typical this was but if it was, i have to say nobody seemingly does a funeral like the irish. well, maybe the good folk of new orleans can compete.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:37 (ten months ago) link
he was ill for so long I can't blame her for trying to finally have a good time.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 02:03 (ten months ago) link
i felt a bit of a kinship with his Dad being the only one not clapping, something about applause at a funeral in a church that feels slightly craven/sacriligious always feel a bit overcome for parents who outlive their children he’s quite up there iirc, isnt he in his mid 90’s?
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:04 (ten months ago) link
but the funeral also felt v mcgowan & the highspiritedness was of course appropriate for him & his vibe
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:06 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQFLz0WHhSA
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 May 2024 18:58 (five months ago) link
Highly, highly recommend the late Carol Clerk's "Kiss My Arse: The Story of the Pogues." I think it's out of print, but I was able to find an e copy*, and wow, is it not just a great story in its own right, it's one of the best rock and roll books I've ever read to delve into the nuts and bolts business stuff of being in a big band. Everyone is amazingly transparent and honest, and of course the stories are incredible.*(if anyone wants a copy, hmu ...)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2024 19:45 (five days ago) link
What about that other book, Here Comes Everybody?
― Sir Lester Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 19:16 (four days ago) link
That was written by Fearnley, right? I think I may have only one Pogues book in me, but I bet that's good, too. The interviews with everyone in the one I read were really intelligent and funny and honest.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 20:29 (four days ago) link