The Pogues: Classic or Dud

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For 'A Rainy Night In Soho' alone, I'll forgive MacGowan just about anything.

Venga, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And 'A Pair Of Brown Eyes'.

Venga, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If I should fall from the grace of God ! "Bury me at sea, where no other ghosts can haunt me"

naz, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shane McGowan = best music critic ever, for expressing his opinion of a Beach Boys record by eating it

dave q, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah, that explains his teeth. I'd always imagined he just ate too many sweets.

Martin Skidmore, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
last night's whistle test right, 2 of my fave bands doing 2 of
their best songs okay ?
(cocteaus doing 'pearly dewdrops..' r.e.m. doing 'pretty persuasion')
and yet the highlight by a country f-ing mile was shane and company
rattling through 'sally maclenanne' in ust under 3 minutes.
good *god* it was good.

there isn't a 'pick only one' for them yet as far as i can tell so
i'll start and say 'waxie's dargle'.
'thousands are sailing' also killa.

piscesboy, Friday, 13 June 2003 09:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

absolute classic! 'if i should fall...' is still as good as when it came out.

joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 13 June 2003 09:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic. it's a tough POO, but for now I'll settle for "Summer in Siam"

(Shane was once so wasted during a gig at a festival (i don't remember which, a dutch or belgian one it was) it was almost too painfull to watch... he forgot about the cigarette he was smoking and the lyrics he was singing, just blabbering on. Until someone came from backstage to walk him off stage, supporting him like one supports an old man across the street (only to find out that he actually didn't want to...). The guitarist (clearly fed up with the situation) took over on vocals and they rushed their way through the set)

willem (willem), Friday, 13 June 2003 10:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

cool, i was going to start a pogues thread because i've been listening to Rum Sodomy & The Lash non-stop all week. classic for its creation of water-tight, perfect aesthetic world, complete on its own terms - ie, for 43 minutes you live in the Pogues version of reality and there isn't a chink of light, no gaps in their vision.

POO is impossible but i'll say 'A Pair Of Brown Eyes' because my girlfriend's in the video! (and it's a classic video too)

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic for many things, but for me really just one...

I've seen a lot bands over the years, and a lot of them were really good. Really really good. Some were stunning and a few have left my jaw hanging open. Then there's The Pogues. 1987. Hollywood Palladium. The Pogues guitarist was missing for the tour - Joe Strummer was filling in.

Holy cow folks... Calling it a mere show doesn't really begin to describe the malestrom pouring off the stage. A band of desperates who clearly didn't give a fuck about anything but yet somehow channeled that all that unhinged abandon into some spectacular intense playing. I really had no previous experience to compare it to - maybe the final shootout in The Wild Bunch or something. My ass was kicked.

The funny thing was that The Pogues were the opening band that night. The headliners were Los Lobos and this night was their first LA show since "La Bamba" went #1. Los Lobos were indeed great, but one of the first thing Cesar Rosas says is "we''d like to thank The Pogues for kicking our ass tonight".

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 14 June 2003 09:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I adore Red Roses for Me and Rum, Sodomy & the Lash in their entirety and bits and pieces after that, notably "Gridlock" and "Young Ned of the Hill" (both off Peace & Love). Completely lost interest after that. "Church of the Holy Spook" on Shane first solo album is a great, rolicking single, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 June 2003 10:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic, classic, CLASSIC. I have been listening to Red Roses for Me and If I Should Fall from Grace with God a lot recently. I think Shane McGowan is one of the most underrated writers in the world today.

"Boys from the County Hell", "Streams of Whiskey" and "Transmetropolitan" are three of the most rip-roaring songs I've ever heard, and when you compare them to beautiful songs like "A Rainy Night in Soho", "Misty Morning, Albert Bridge", "Fairytale of New York" and "Thousands are Sailing", the guy is a total all-round genius.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have either not heard them or don't remember what I heard, but If I Should Fall. . . is on my short list of rock CDs to buy eventually. I have a feeling I will like them.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic. POO is hard, becuz my favorite pogues song was in a movie (automatically loses points) but I don't remember which movie (i don't like movies) - The Old Main Drag.

I'm SUCH a Pogues fan, I even like that albuim without Shane - Waiting For Herb. Heavy nostalgia / ex girl moves for me on that one tho, so no foul

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

At their peak (early-mid '80's) totally classic, especially live - their annual St Patrick's Day gigs were absolutely essential mayhem. By the end of the decade 'though Shane had lost the plot and the rest of the band were lost without him.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
It's all about Sally Maclenanne

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 February 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I finally got around to downloading Shane MacGowan's cover of 'What's Another Year?' the other day - I lost my copy of A Song For Eurotrash a few years ago under mysterious circumstances. It's not as great as I remembered, but it's still good.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
FUCKING A THEY'RE GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!!

"By the way, if you are a Pogues fan living in Glasgow, Newcastle, Birmingham,Manchester, London or Dublin and are hoping to see (the 1987-1990 line up of)The Pogues one last time, December 13 through to December 23 (2004) would be a really bad time to leave town."

The Pogues Reunion 2004

13.12.2004 - Glasgow Academy
14.12.2004 - Glasgow Academy
16.12.2004 - Newcastle Arena
17.12.2004 - Birmingham Academy
18.12.2004 - Manchester Evening News Arena
20.12.2004 - London Brixton Academy
21.12.2004 - London Brixton Academy
23.12.2004 - Dublin Point (MCD)


Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Monday, 2 August 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

"the original line up including Shane MacGowan will play"
http://www.albumvote.co.uk/news/news.php?nid=114

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 2 August 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

Believe it when you see it. Did you guys seen the MacGowan doc, "If I Should Fall from Grace"?
http://www.citypages.com/filmreviews/detail.asp?MID=4055

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 2 August 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

i love pogues!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:12 (twenty years ago) link

C or D? Well, that depends on whether or not I'm drunk at the time!

Ah hell, who am I kidding? Classic for Rum, Sodomy & The Lash, the finest record I own with the name "Elvis Costello" on it.

BTW, I too saw Joe Strummer playing with the Pogues (Detroit, '87) during the same tour that Chris mentioned upthread, and everything he says about that show was right on. As far as I can remember...

(They did "London Calling"! Sounded GREAT!)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

shane macgowan drinks at my local when he's in london. my friend worked at the bar - she wasn't allowed to clean up all the glasses in front of him, many of them unfinished, for fear it would cause him distress. once, he got off the bar, walked outside, looked around, licked the tip of his finger and checked the direction of the wind, and then trickled back to his seat at the bar.

matthew james (matthew james), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago) link

i'm going to be in the u.k. at that time, i think. this is probably the best news i'll get today.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

Classic for 'Rum Sodomy and The Lash' & 'Red Roses For Me' - the rest I can take or leave (with a special place set aside for Fiesta as it gets played every time someone at Celtic who doesn't have their 'own' song scores).
POO - Boys From The County Hell

The Joe Strummer tour was reviewed in one of the UK weekly mags with the classic headline "Rum, Sodomy and The Clash".

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

god i wish i could go to these shows :(

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
i forgot how good waiting for herb is.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link

pogue mahone though, kinds sucked

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
why is shane in a wheelchair ?

chaki, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

He fell at their recent Boston gig and fucked up his knee. Had to cancel the first of the three nights in NYC, but played the second and third (the final one being St. Patrick's Day, of course).

Rumor is there'll be a new studio album, but I don't know how excited I am about that prospect. I only like the first three (and the Poguetry In Motion EP).

unperson, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you.

chaki, Saturday, 31 March 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I definitely liked the two Pogues albums without Shane - 'Waiting For Herb' was especially great favourite of mine about 13 years ago, though I hardly ever listening them since.

zeus, Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

My book here says it's Shane McGowan's birthday today. He's 50 years old.

Bimble, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Happy christmas yer arse.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 26 December 2007 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Last night he was on Harry Hill's TV Burp singing Fairytale of New York with a beluga whale.

ledge, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Shouldn't this topic be "Classic or Drunk"?

Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

It is astounding that Shane MacGowan is still alive but Kirsty MacColl is dead.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

And I think he will be touring with the Pogues in America in March 2008

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

"ferried around america with the pogues" might be a better construction. but he made 50, that's an achievement. the man's liver gives hope to us all. really all his organs deserve respect.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Will someone please, please, please tell me who the woman is singing on this. I don't believe it's Kirsty MacColl. Please. Is this on a Pogues album? It's a b-side isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-8JpgmA0s

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Sounds like Belinda Carlisle but it's probably Cait O'Riordan.

everything, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

that's Cait O'Riordan, who used to play bass for the Pogues until Daryl Hunt took over from "If I Should Fall..." Unfortunately, she married Elvis Costello after he produced "Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash."

That song was written by Shane MacGowan but it's on the Sid and Nancy soundtrack. It's also on the excellent Pogues box set that just came out.

res, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

incidentally, MONUMENTAL CLASSIC. That box set kicks fucking ass.

res, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

also a great version of that song with sinead o'connor on shane's first solo album.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

It was a single in its own right as well. As tipsy says, there's a version on "The Snake" as well featuring Sinead O'Connor.

ailsa, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Sinead O'Connor version is not as good, IMHO. And his solo version of "Rake at the Gates of Hell" is fucking terrible compared to the original. But, shockingly, he made another amazing Christmas song after he went solo. It's called "Christmas Lullaby" and unbelievably, it's nearly as good as "Fairytale of New York." That song was on a limited edition single only, alas.

res, Monday, 25 August 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i sort of prefer the sinead version, it's more wistful and draws out the melody more. both are great though. "you looked so cool you could have put out vietnam" is one of my favorite shane lines.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

here's the video to the album version of shane/sinead. (produced by trevor horn!)

tipsy mothra, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks ILM!!!!!!!!!

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

obligatory st paddy's day pogues video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TejJDFt6Tkk&feature=related

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Heard some BBC coverage of people gathering for the funeral, sounds like quite a send-off.

This is the real Dublin ❤️‍🔥

So long Shane 🙏#ShaneMacGowan pic.twitter.com/YxZtmXxxI2

— Fergal Burke (@fergaljburke) December 8, 2023

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 December 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link

it seems quite mad that his funeral is being shown live on bbc, especially with his wife talking about how he took 100 acid tabs a day!

stirmonster, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:43 (ten months ago) link

most bonkers funeral ever. fantastic.

stirmonster, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:02 (ten months ago) link

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immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link

Glen Hansard and Lisa O'Neill performed "Fairytale of New York" to close Shane MacGowan's funeral today.pic.twitter.com/bG7mCSusmC

— CONSEQUENCE (@consequence) December 8, 2023

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:43 (ten months ago) link

R.I.P. Shane MacGowan
Here is Nick Cave performing 'A Rainy Night in Soho' at Shane's funeral in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, on Friday afternoon #ShaneMacGowan 💙pic.twitter.com/7BXaAp1CyP

— 🎶Paul Lewis - Wycombe Gigs (@wycombegigs) December 8, 2023

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:07 (ten months ago) link

^Irvin Yalom OTM.
Speaking of Pogues x Steve Earle, I hear related appeal in the (candidly precarious, vibrantly focused) peak albums of Justin Townes Earle (a better singer than Steve): Midnight at the Movies was my gateway, and there were several more before he started seeming so fragile that I backed off---I didn't know him, so that was okay, I thought--then he rallied for The Saint of Lost Causes, one of his best ever, then he was gone.

dow, Friday, 8 December 2023 20:27 (ten months ago) link

those performances are so good, esp enjoyed hansard

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:32 (ten months ago) link

really feeling this one today
just tearfully waltzed meself around the kitchen <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66quTi26YLY

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:36 (ten months ago) link

I love “Rainy Night in Soho,” but I didn’t realize its cultural impact, that it’s kind of the go-to Shane song other than “Fairytale of NY.”

podcast wise, “Misadventures in Music” with Ian Prowse and Mick Ord did a great ep about McGowan a couple of years ago in 2021 - very passionate & deep discussion, highly recommend

also includes a good interview at the end w the Crock of Gold producer

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 23:12 (ten months ago) link


really feeling this one today
just tearfully waltzed meself around the kitchen <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66quTi26YLY

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, December 8, 2023 9:36 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this and Five Green Queens are the songs I really really love from Hell's Ditch. Almost just wisps, but absurdly lovely, a kind of brilliance that's miles away from his ferocious piles of words.

woof, Friday, 8 December 2023 23:32 (ten months ago) link

yeah the simplicity really bowls me over, just as much as his epics do

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 December 2023 23:42 (ten months ago) link


I love “Rainy Night in Soho,” but I didn’t realize its cultural impact, that it’s kind of the go-to Shane song other than “Fairytale of NY.”

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, December 8, 2023 10:15 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yup and I can never puzzle out whether its careful ambiguity is part of the deal or sort of off to one side of a gorgeous romantic-sounding record. Cool either way, songs have their own lives.

woof, Friday, 8 December 2023 23:59 (ten months ago) link

We have sin gas
And con leche

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:33 (ten months ago) link

re Soho: macgowan is one of the rare few songwriters I’m not mad at rhyming arms with charms

macgowan said years ago that he didnt know what it was about even while he was writing until almost the end, which is something i love
theres an ease to the flow of the lyrics that makes it very believable that it just showed up fully formed
he was communing with a good & kind muse that day imo

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:36 (ten months ago) link

You’re the measure of my dreams

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:43 (ten months ago) link

That one is breaking me right now

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link

fully sobbed over that line again today

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:52 (ten months ago) link

Some people they are scared to croak
But Jimmy drank until he choked

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:54 (ten months ago) link

WE WALKED HIM TO THE STATION IN THE RAINNNN

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:57 (ten months ago) link

WE KISSED HIM AS WE PUT HIM ON THE TRAIN

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:59 (ten months ago) link

That was my first response when heard about his death, just posted the chorus to Sally MacLennane. We sang him a song of times long gone, though we knew that we'd be seeing him again.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 01:00 (ten months ago) link

FARRR AWAAAY!!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 01:10 (ten months ago) link

heard them say that Jimmy's making money far away
And some people left for heaven without warning

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:01 (ten months ago) link

me fave:

Now Jimmy didn't like his place in this world of ours
Where the elephant man broke strong men's necks
When he'd had too many Powers

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:47 (ten months ago) link

Strangely, the lines that tend to get to me are

For to shift a few tons of this earthly delight

Yes to shift a few tons of this earthly delight

I know Shane didn't write that song but the way he delivers it just kinda works for me

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:47 (ten months ago) link

His delivery is at least as much a part of his appeal as his writing.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 04:24 (ten months ago) link

And yet he was one of the rare songwriters whose lyrics are good on the page as well

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 December 2023 05:07 (ten months ago) link

Stumbled on this after watching an RTE Late Late Show tribute to McGowan from yesterday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVTYS1fR6c

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:30 (ten months ago) link

(bah, can't embed, but it's Shane and many of the same people from the tribute from the other night, from 2019. Shane in not great shape but sings a bit alongside a large band including Terry Woods)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:31 (ten months ago) link

I don’t know enough about Puddles the clown to have an opinion of him, but this is a pretty delightful performance of “A Man You Don’t Meet Every Day” with THE actual Cait O’Riordan.

https://fb.watch/oQBALSjS81/?mibextid=cr9u03

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:33 (ten months ago) link

every time I see a Puddles video I'm kind of blown away, that guy has a great voice and good schtick

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:39 (ten months ago) link

(xxpost) if you ever wanted to see Martin O'Malley (yes that one) sing a Pogues song you can see it here

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:53 (ten months ago) link

RS Album Guide

https://i.imgur.com/gd095xW.png

omar little, Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:56 (ten months ago) link

lol @ Waiting for Herb one-star. before I knew anything about The Pogues I wanted to get one of their albums because I'd heard good things about them and that album was the only one of theirs on the rack, and rather than do research, I picked it up, and was very confused by what I was hearing. didn't even realize it was a Shane-less album at the time.

suspect it'd be easier to like if it's not your first foray into Pogue-dom and you can hear it in context but never got through the first listen

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:05 (ten months ago) link

Tuesday Morning is a really good song. The rest of the album I don't remember! I don't remember hating it though. It was better than the next one.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:34 (ten months ago) link

weirdly it was produced by Michael Brook (of Eno/Lanois and Edge's 'infinite guitar' fame)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 00:41 (ten months ago) link

J.D.C. = J.D. Considine?

i'm amazed there isn't more chat about the funeral. it was literally the craziest thing ever.

stirmonster, Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:16 (ten months ago) link

i can't find the whole thing online but it was cool to see Nick Cave do Rainy Night and Hansard do Fairytale. Lots of love in there. Was the terribly old man in the front pew McGowan's father? Also, was the casket in a wicker basket?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:25 (ten months ago) link

yes and yes. his father seemed to be emotionally in turmoil throughout while everyone else was having the time of their lives, his wife especially. not being judgemental here; it was very fitting, but very, very odd seeing his wife leaping over pews to dance. i'm not sure how typical this was but if it was, i have to say nobody seemingly does a funeral like the irish. well, maybe the good folk of new orleans can compete.

stirmonster, Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:37 (ten months ago) link

he was ill for so long I can't blame her for trying to finally have a good time.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 02:03 (ten months ago) link

i felt a bit of a kinship with his Dad being the only one not clapping, something about applause at a funeral in a church that feels slightly craven/sacriligious

always feel a bit overcome for parents who outlive their children
he’s quite up there iirc, isnt he in his mid 90’s?

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:04 (ten months ago) link

but the funeral also felt v mcgowan & the highspiritedness was of course appropriate for him & his vibe

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:06 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQFLz0WHhSA

Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 May 2024 18:58 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

Highly, highly recommend the late Carol Clerk's "Kiss My Arse: The Story of the Pogues." I think it's out of print, but I was able to find an e copy*, and wow, is it not just a great story in its own right, it's one of the best rock and roll books I've ever read to delve into the nuts and bolts business stuff of being in a big band. Everyone is amazingly transparent and honest, and of course the stories are incredible.

*(if anyone wants a copy, hmu ...)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2024 19:45 (five days ago) link

What about that other book, Here Comes Everybody?

Sir Lester Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 19:16 (four days ago) link

That was written by Fearnley, right? I think I may have only one Pogues book in me, but I bet that's good, too. The interviews with everyone in the one I read were really intelligent and funny and honest.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 20:29 (four days ago) link


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