T or F: If Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers had written and recorded "You May Be Right" instead of Billy Joel, it would have been among their best songs and greatest achievements

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Knock out that insufferable sax solo, add a little Mike Campbell and this song is Midwest classic rock gold!

Also, other "If ______________ had written and recorded "__________" instead of ______________, it would have been among their best songs and greatest achievements" songs - go!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 22 March 2008 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

Knock out that insufferable sax solo, add a little Mike Campbell and this song is Midwest classic rock gold!

Mark Rich@rdson, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

Sleeping With the Television On

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 22 March 2008 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

your eyes are saying talk to me, talk to me, but your attitude's all don't waste my time.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 22 March 2008 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

what awful TV show was this the theme song to???

69, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

ilm

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:05 (twelve years ago) link

Okay look, I...have nothing but the greatest respect for the Billy Joel version of this but Tom Petty can just go suck pixie sticks for all I care.

Bimble, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

i think bimble is in a category of his own.

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PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:40 (twelve years ago) link

what awful TV show was this the theme song to???

DAVE'S WORLD!!!!

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

I had totally forgotten about that shit!

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

p.s. not a Billy Joel fan but this song is great

same with Petty and "Don't Come Around Here No More" (well, okay, I like "Free Falling" too)

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:51 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Actually I can kinda picture this Tom Petty "You May Be Right," it would have been pretty great!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:34 (ten years ago) link

still always wonder what the heartbreakers version of "boys of summer" would have been like if petty hadn't passed on it

Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:17 (ten years ago) link

Tom Petty is the bizzaro Don Henley. That's fitting.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 4 December 2009 19:20 (ten years ago) link

Petty would probably not have used the "II remember when I made you scream" line.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:22 (ten years ago) link

Or name-checked "bad" neighborhoods in Boston and New York.

But also the whole "but hey ahm just a wild'n'crazy guy imo" schtick... eh.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:28 (ten years ago) link

petty's version would have gone more like

Honey don't walk out, I'm too drunk to follow
You know you won't feel this way tomorrow...

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:38 (ten years ago) link

i just can't believe your guitar player comes to you with that song and you're like "nah give it to henley"

actually petty did say it was a dumb move in the documentary

Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:40 (ten years ago) link

If Snoop Dogg had written Da Brat's "Funkdafied"...

Action Orientation (Eazy), Friday, 4 December 2009 19:50 (ten years ago) link

If CCR had written and recorded "Witchy Woman" instead of the Eagles...

chocolatepiekid, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:00 (ten years ago) link

petty's version would have gone more like

Honey don't walk out, I'm too drunk to follow
You know you won't feel this way tomorrow...

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, December 4, 2009

lol and otm and it IS a great song

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:04 (ten years ago) link

petty would have killed it with "sunset grill"

Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:06 (ten years ago) link

If CCR had written and recorded "Witchy Woman" instead of the Eagles...
yessss. i think this might go for a lot of Eagles songs. If Television had written "Hotel California" ... If Neil Young had written "Desperado" ... Dunno if they'd be their "best songs" but it'd be interesting!

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:19 (ten years ago) link

woah tyler just blew my ~~mind~~

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:20 (ten years ago) link

haha. i think there was an ongoing joke on some Television message board about them doing "Hotel California." I can almost hear it!

tylerw, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:24 (ten years ago) link

i can totally hear it

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Friday, 4 December 2009 20:25 (ten years ago) link

What's this about, artists who were good nuts-and-bolts songwriters but culturally bland?

B'wana Beast, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Good songs, too-arch performances, I think. Basically comes down to "do you like the Eagles."

If Steve Miller Band had written and recorded "Life In The Fast Lane" instead of the Eagles...

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 5 December 2009 04:19 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

If the Marshall Tucker Band had written and recorded "Already Gone" instead of the Eagles, it would have been among their best songs and greatest achievements.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:40 (eight years ago) link

If Tom Petty had been taking a long nap on his couch on May 17 1987 it would have been among his greatest accomplishments

sleepingbag, Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:20 (eight years ago) link

I can't imagine that happening, but what an interesting question. I know people who wouldn't listen to this song if it were Tom Petty!

If Tom Petty had written and recorded "You Know You're Right"...

"marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:24 (eight years ago) link

"You May Be Right" is fine as-is & I can't imagine a Petty version. I say that as someone who likes Tom Petty a LOT more than Billy Joel.

Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:24 (eight years ago) link

I think it's bluddy awful, but hey.

Mark G, Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:32 (eight years ago) link

Very disappointed there is tolerance, let alone enthusiasm for this song on ILM.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:26 (eight years ago) link

When I was like 22, I drove to NYC to visit. I got lost leaving Brooklyn, got behind an ambulance that said BEDFORD-STUYVESANT on the back and went whoa... I'm driving through the Bedford-Stuy alone!

pplains, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:33 (eight years ago) link

Anyway, I can't picture Roger McGuinn Petty singing any of those mudda and fadda lyrics from Long Island. Would love to see a Petty video where he appears a ghost to a suicidal teen and plays a snippet of "Even the Losers" on the harmonica for him.

pplains, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:36 (eight years ago) link

This is music for Delaware County, PA rapists.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:39 (eight years ago) link

What music do the rapists in Montgomery County listen to?

pplains, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:44 (eight years ago) link

any time i hear "Marshall Tucker," i always think of this Howard Stern sketch (recorded not long after Toy Caldwell died):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9aXNmuC8Yc

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 20:54 (eight years ago) link

seriously, whatever Tom Petty's other faults may be he simply doesn't possess Billy Joel's smug, innate nastiness = he'd never even think of recording something like "you may be right"

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

ha -- he's done it repeatedly!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

he's just better at it

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

Yeah "You Got Lucky" ups the ante on "You May Be Right." what saves it from smugness is the hurt in the vocal. It's a wounded guy lashing out at a girl who's already gone.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:13 (eight years ago) link

I was hoping you'd jump in here, tips.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:18 (eight years ago) link

the premise of this song is such bull, "You May Be Right" would be one of the weakest songs on Petty's GH if it was on there

some dude, Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:29 (eight years ago) link

when I first heard the song as a kid I imagined some fat, dirty, smelly biker guy with a mustache and long, unkempt hair was singing this song.

shocked me when I first saw the video and saw Billy Joel singing it

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:34 (eight years ago) link

billy joel has the psyche of a fat, dirty, smelly biker dude with a mustache and long, unkempt hair.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:39 (eight years ago) link

and sartorially he seems to fancy himself the Fifth Ramone ... sunglasses, black leather biker jacket, blue jeans.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:40 (eight years ago) link

Billy Joel now looks like a fat, dirty, smelly biker guy with a mustache and long, unkempt hair.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:53 (eight years ago) link

Oh man, I love ''Elstree'' and wd buy a comp of only such songs

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:34 (eight years ago) link

lene lovich's "lucky number" pretty much reigns high and mighty over that particular singing tic, does it not?!?

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:56 (eight years ago) link

Just listened to that - great song, but different kind of "oh ooh OHHH" I'd say.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:21 (eight years ago) link

xp The music, vocal melody and production of "You Got Lucky" are a million times more enjoyable than anything in "You May Be Right."

billstevejim, Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of "Sometimes a Fantasy," as much as I love Tom Petty, I don't think he has the strength to do this to a piano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqY6mXULzpw

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:40 (eight years ago) link

That's true, "You Got Lucky" has aged well.

I've never disliked You Got Lucky.. I'm not sure why it's been used here for comparison.

billstevejim, Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

How weird it is to see the "You Got Lucky" video today... a young Tom Petty & Heartbreakers finding 30-year-old video games and music equipment. Only change they'd need to make is to have them drive up in a PT Cruiser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTAhZKP5wCY

pplains, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link

I've never disliked You Got Lucky.. I'm not sure why it's been used here for comparison.

I mentioned it just cuz it's sort of thematically similar to "You May Be Right" -- both are basically assertions of "Hey, I'm pretty awesome" to obviously skeptical women.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:08 (eight years ago) link

(And I've always liked the video's complete lack of engagement with the lyrics. It's endearing and makes me wish there had been a Saturday morning cartoon featuring a time-traveling Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:09 (eight years ago) link

idk "You May Be Right" to me comes across as "I'm a piece of crap, but c'mon, you know you really love me..and besides some of my craziness is your fault".

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

xpost

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

What exactly is Billy's problem in that clip? The audience just seem to be grooving.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:31 (eight years ago) link

The show was part of Billy's USSR tour, and was being filmed for a documentary/home video release. The lighting crew/director kept bringing up the house lights on the audience in order to get crowd shots. It distracted Billy, obviously, but his claim was that he didn't want the audience to feel like Soviet cops were watching them.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:38 (eight years ago) link

Also, those Yamaha electric pianos weigh as much as Rhode Island. Billy must've turned into the Hulk or something.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:39 (eight years ago) link

HULK JOEL TAKES SHIT FROM NOBODY

pplains, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:41 (eight years ago) link

i fucking hate this song so much

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Friday night HULK SMASH YOUR PARTY
Saturday, Hulk say HULK SORRY
Sunday came,
HULK SMASH IT OUT AGAIN

Doctor Casino, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:51 (eight years ago) link

lol

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:55 (eight years ago) link

hahaha

pplains, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:56 (eight years ago) link

irl lol

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:56 (eight years ago) link

If CCR had written and recorded "Witchy Woman" instead of the Eagles...
― chocolatepiekid, Friday, 4 December 2009 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can sorta hear Petty singing You Might Be Right, and it would sorta work, but what I really want to hear is ^^^

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

okay full confession: I did not know Kool G Rap's "Road to the Riches" was built around a Billy Joel sample

I don't know if it would be the best thing ever, but this thread is making me wish I could hear Petty covering this tune. He released a live box set with a ton of covers recently, so I guess it could still happen. Someone should send him this thread.

o. nate, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:28 (eight years ago) link

I actually had the idea one night listening to some prog song that it could be converted to the chiming guitars and McGuinn-isms of Petty. I think it was "Northern Lights" by Renaissance, but I just listened to that, and I must have been high.

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:30 (eight years ago) link

okay full confession: I did not know Kool G Rap's "Road to the Riches" was built around a Billy Joel sample


Yeah! That's the one being played at the beginning of the "My Life" video upthread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC2Up4-LJM0

pplains, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:35 (eight years ago) link

"You May Be Right" as is would fit right in on a Johnny Cougar (Mellancamp) album like American Fool or Uh Huh, when his sound was pretty much cold tapping the Stones before he brought in the violin and the accordion. I definitely think "You May Be Right" has a big time Stones sound especially with the harp and beat.

I think it is a pretty good rock and roll tune, there is just the automatic flinch factor that it is the dude that did "Piano Man".

earlnash, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:16 (eight years ago) link

if looks could kill, this dude's face is genocide

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Billy_Joel_Shankbone_NYC_2009.jpg

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:29 (eight years ago) link

hodor

balls, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:07 (eight years ago) link

There is definitely some Stones in "You May Be Right" - also some "new wave". Check out his outfit on the cover of the single:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/Youmayberight.jpg

Other bands who might be able to do interesting covers of "You May Be Right": The Cars, Elvis Costello

o. nate, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:05 (eight years ago) link

That pic above but one: Who painted a face on a lightbulb?

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:19 (eight years ago) link

daaaaamn Joan Jett was mannish in '80.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:26 (eight years ago) link

Man, just listened to the first side of Glass Houses for the first time in a while - it's pretty damned solid. Nobody's idea of a great new wave record but as far as pop-rock goes I'd rate it decently. Wouldn't say it's his best but I think it's underrated within his catalogue.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:06 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kwTgtjfFlI

dunno about Tom Petty, but somebody coulda really gone somewhere with this - good material on this record!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:44 (eight years ago) link

^^^^ The standout gem on this record, along w/the rarely discussed Don't Ask Me Why. Still have unabashed love for this record more than 30 years after first buying it.

jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Friday, 30 March 2012 13:22 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Friday night HULK SMASH YOUR PARTY
Saturday, Hulk say HULK SORRY
Sunday came,
HULK SMASH IT OUT AGAIN

― Doctor Casino, Monday, March 19, 2012 1:51 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just died lol again.

Also going to be thinking about a Television version of "Hotel California" for the rest of the day.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 15:57 (six years ago) link

:D

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 21:55 (six years ago) link

Hahaha definitely gonna start singing that instead

Not crazy about this song but Tom Petty would have done it much better. I want that version to exist.

Vinnie, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:48 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

There is definitely some Stones in "You May Be Right"

Yeah just gave this a re-listen and the way he's stretching the ends of the lines out ("chaaaa-ange") is so obviously Mick Jagger.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 June 2014 19:16 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

If the Pixies had written and recorded "I'm Affected" instead of the Ramones, it would have been among their best songs and greatest achievements.

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 February 2016 18:03 (four years ago) link

When I'm in a store and "You May Be Right" comes on, I start asking myself if the shopping I am doing is absolutely necessary and if maybe it would be alright for me to leave immediately.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:31 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

If Bob Dylan had written and recorded "Until the End of the World" instead of U2, it would have been among his best songs and greatest achievements since Blood on the Tracks.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Monday, 13 February 2017 18:58 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

If the post-Quadrophenia Who had written and recorded "Morse Moose and the Grey Goose" instead of Paul McCartney and Wings, it would have been among their best songs and greatest achievements.

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 13 January 2018 17:19 (two years ago) link

What if....

Just realizes H.P. Lovecraft's "Nemesis" has the same meter as Billy Joel's "Piano Man." pic.twitter.com/Oty5JxoHWW

— Captain Video (@OurWorldcomic) January 14, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKKTqB_Lzv0

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/01/18/hp-lovecraft-billy-joel-piano-man

pplains, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 03:38 (two years ago) link

Always thought my man was more of an Aleister Crowley guy though.

pplains, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 03:42 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

If Blink-182 had written and recorded "Misery" instead of Soul Asylum, it would have been among their best songs and the most-mocked vocal performances of Tom DeLonge.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 February 2018 23:12 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

If Britney Spears had recorded "I Try" instead of Macy Gray, it would have been among her best ballads and greatest achievements.

Macy did just fine with it, mind you - just suddenly heard it in my head recently and have been unable to shake the sense of it.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 01:33 (eleven months ago) link

Also, if Billy Joel in his Moog days had written and recorded "A Glass of Champagne" instead of Sailor, it would have been among his best early singles to be left off of most versions of Greatest Hits Vol. I & II.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 01:40 (eleven months ago) link

eleven months pass...

If Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers had written and recorded "The Breakup Song (They Don't Write 'Em)" instead of Greg Kihn, it would have been among their best songs and greatest achievements.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 26 June 2020 16:00 (two weeks ago) link

'Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell wrote a demo for "The Boys of Summer" while experimenting with a LinnDrum drum machine. He showed it to Tom Petty, but they felt it did not fit with the record they were working on, Southern Accents. At the suggestion of producer Jimmy Iovine, Campbell played it for Don Henley, who wrote the lyrics and recorded the vocal. They rerecorded the song after Henley decided to change the key."
So Don Henley would have had to give the song to Tom Petty, not the other way around.

Mike Dixn, Saturday, 27 June 2020 00:20 (two weeks ago) link


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