Sade: Classic or Dud?

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I'm greatly frustrated by the lack of a straight-ahead, Sade classic or dud thread on ILM.

http://qblog.nov.ru/images/uploads/SADE_1984.jpg

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

http://re3.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/25/m3/2653254771

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://re3.yt-thm-a04.yimg.com/image/25/m4/2954952416

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://sp1.yt-thm-a02.yimg.com/image/25/m7/3938798248

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://re3.yt-thm-a04.yimg.com/image/25/m4/2837561966

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

why is this thread necessary??

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link

^^

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to invite the folks who would say "dud" to a duel, you see? Let's have it out.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

That's more sportsmanlike than is befitting of a Sade-hater.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I say oil up the guillotine.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

why is this thread not necessary?

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link

thread can only be saved by large images of sade being hott (pretty much any pic of her)

gershy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:25 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.langfieldentertainment.com/images/IMAGES%20TO%20KEEP/sade.jpg

gershy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I know I am an old man tonight, because I just wiki-ed her and found out she's 49. And of course she is, if I think about it. Still. I hate it when time passes.

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:28 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/images/classicpela7sade.l.jpg

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

large images of sade being hott (pretty much any pic of her)

yes, i also noted that GIS is none too forthcoming with the pics of her at 7 a.m. in curlers and her "comfortable" robe.

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^my desktop photo

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I've started quite a few Sade threads around here. Apart from some isolated comments on how Sade fans couldn't possibly "love music", they've been well recieved.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 08:38 (fourteen years ago) link

dood. 'your love is king' slays a party if mixed into hiphop. she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

U-Haul, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

harumph!

zaxxon25, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll use this thread to recommend both of her live DVDs

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

dood. 'your love is king' slays a party if mixed into hiphop. she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

Yes. Almost every good old song should be remixed and updated. For the kids!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

by your side is the tenderest ever

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

-- U-Haul, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:07 (48 minutes ago) Link

no offense dude, this sounds like awful idea

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Really, really happy I had the chance to see her perform. Her voice is just as stunning live. "Is It a Crime?" = SWOON. I'll check out those live DVDs mentioned.

scampering alpaca, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

actually it would have been dope to see her do a record produced by Massive Attack in their prime. but you really cant fault her music at all.

pipecock, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Good lord, her with Massive Attack. That sounds like a fantastic idea.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.

Not everyone, apparently. From AMG's review of Promise:

was once again the personification of cool, laid-back singing, seldom extending or embellishing lyrics, registering emotion, or projecting her voice. This demeanor made her more desirable in the minds of many fans and was perhaps the ultimate misapplication of the notion of sophistication.

From AMG's review of Stronger Than Pride:

After two LPs with little or no energy, Sade demonstrated some intensity and fire on her third release. . . . Not that she was suddenly singing in a soulful or bluesy manner; rather, Sade's dry and introspective tone now had a little more edge, and the lyrics were ironic as well as reflective.

AMG was also lukewarm on Diamond Life. To be fair, all three of these reviews were written by the same reviewer (Ron Wynn). Still, I'm surprised, since I've always thought that AMG seemed pretty generous to artists (maybe that's a complete misperception).

FWIW -- not much, I know -- I like Sade, but I don't think she's as great as most others here apparently do. De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I know I'm gonna sound like some random googler, but, Sade? I love her. I mean, I really, really love her.

(Um, classic obv.)

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link

That is a really rare contrarian POV for AMG.

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:31 (fourteen years ago) link

PS: Most classic for me of all her classic moments: "Every day is Christmas / And every night is New Year's Eve."

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

live album is good

chaki, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

'By Your Side' is very soothing

joedee, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Bimble, don't be so literal! I started this one in 2001:

Sade: Hologram or Dud?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

If anyone's interested in what a Sade/Massive Attack Collabo might have sounded like, this is probably the closest thing to it -

Sade - "Love Is Stronger Than Pride (Mad Professor Mix)"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sks22h

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:22 (fourteen years ago) link

There's also a shitty Neptunes remix of 'By your side' floating around

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

It's on the single. I don't like it mainly because it changes the chord progression, rendering Sade's singing faintly ridiculous for anyone who loves the original..

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

theres a vinyl 2x lp of a bunch of remixes of sade out there that includes that mad prof. mix. I saw it the other day at a record store

deej, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

It's OK. Don't spend a fortune on it, tho

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

heres one from what.cd

sade - best of (the remixes)

01-sade-love_is_stronger_than_pride__mad_professor_mix
02-sade-give_it_up__kenny_larkin_rmx
03-sade-kiss_of_live__deep_mix
04-sade-feel_no_pain__nellie_hooper_mix
05-sade-turn_my_back_on_you__heffs_mix
06-sade-sweetest_taboo__extended_version
07-sade-i_never_thought_id_see_the_day__danny_tenaglias_musk_men_mix
08-sade-by_your_side__ben_watt_mix
09-sade-somebody_already_broke_my_heart__excursions_mix

jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man im listening to that neptunes by your side and yes it is awful - talk abt completely missing the mark uhg

jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess I should have said "Everyone thinks she's classic except for one AMG reviewer who doesn't post here anyway and is more on-the-fence than negative, anyway."

HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember that Kenny Larkin remix of 'Give it Up' as being pretty good?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

You're in luck: http://turbocity.blogspot.com/2007/09/best-of-remixessade.html

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

As much as I love Sade I don't understand how a live album could be worth having. I've been to one of her shows (at Madison Square Garden) and it was mindblowing, but aside from a conga flourish or two, the music itself seemed exactly the same as on record..

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

OTM. Live DVDs on the other hand...

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.

pipecock, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

god, 'no ordinary love' is so fucking beautiful.

lex pretend, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

indeed, but i won't hold my breath — in a nice way.

same feelings i have about people like andre3000, maxwell, and erykah badu releasing new records. "be nice if it happens."

the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 15 November 2021 04:32 (one year ago) link

with sade though the obstacle has usually just been them all being ready to work on a new album, so i'm not too worried now that it's in progress

ufo, Monday, 15 November 2021 04:37 (one year ago) link

https://www.nts.live/shows/test-pressing/episodes/test-pression-w-andrew-hale-9th-june-2018

Andrew Hale (from the band) was on Test Pressing's radio show at the weekend for a Sade special. They only seem to have recorded the first hour but I went into the chatroom and asked what was happening with a new Sade album and near the end of the show he confirmed it is being actively worked on.

― boxedjoy, Monday, 11 June 2018 14:14 (three years ago)

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 November 2021 10:53 (one year ago) link

big sigh.

― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Sunday, November 14, 2021 7:39 PM (yesterday)

the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 15 November 2021 15:48 (one year ago) link

lol they've always taken forever? it's going to happen unless one of them keels over and even then it will probably happen. like planting tulip bulbs.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 15 November 2021 16:03 (one year ago) link

i want it to happen and i'm willing to wait.

sigh.

the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 15 November 2021 16:13 (one year ago) link

all those early records are an endless horizon i just keep going back to them over and over, constant rotation

marcos, Monday, 15 November 2021 17:42 (one year ago) link

i don't think i'll ever tire of them

marcos, Monday, 15 November 2021 17:42 (one year ago) link

we watched the video for "sweetest taboo" again over the weekend - it's aged very well imo.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 15 November 2021 17:59 (one year ago) link

agree those records do just seem to age better and better. so very, very classic.

if anybody wants that b-sides collection upthread as a download, lmk.

the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 15 November 2021 19:12 (one year ago) link

and yes re:the visuals with the band. just, everything, like i said: so very, very classic.

truly wonderful band.

the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 15 November 2021 19:17 (one year ago) link

xps just watched

when she gets up from the windowsill at 1:56 and starts dancing whaaaaaaat

marcos, Monday, 15 November 2021 19:25 (one year ago) link

life promise pride love is an essential dvd imo

https://www.discogs.com/master/204977-Sade-Life-Promise-Pride-Love

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 November 2021 20:19 (one year ago) link

Thanks for getting me to watch her videos, few of which I had ever seen. Great and timeless indeed ('Turn My Back on You' and 'When Am I Gonna Make a Living' could have come out today).

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 08:52 (one year ago) link

sade on horseback is magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfzmVUrZplw

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 09:35 (one year ago) link

Love that Thin Lizzy cover, thanks for posting

I don’t have anything to add on Sade, except that I once saw a mean tweet from Tracy Thorne about “Soldier of Love”, and it has basically made me dislike TT forever since

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 10:49 (one year ago) link

Tracey's a big fan though

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music-theatre/2018/03/queen-quiet-storm-tracey-thorn-return-sade

I love Sade's singing more and more as time goes by. And I already loved it a lot.

— Tracey Thorn (@tracey_thorn) January 9, 2018

groovypanda, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 10:53 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx_BZ5VfyWQ

MaresNest, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:37 (four months ago) link

I didn't appreciate her nearly enough when Diamond Life came out (it got overplayed at our record store), but her records have aged remarkably well. In addition to a fantastic voice and amazing presence, she's just cool as hell. A star.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:42 (four months ago) link

sade on horseback is magic

(Swoon)

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:11 (four months ago) link

i found stronger than pride in the glove compartment of my boyfriends car a few weeks ago while we were driving around with the windows down. so good and tbh i've never felt cooler.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:18 (four months ago) link

rest well mp☮️🕉

thank you for sharing that news, map and big co-sign on stronger than pride. that one's probably aged the best of her catalogue by this point. "turn my back on you" is such a standout no matter where or when i hear it.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:59 (four months ago) link

great music to listen to with a person you love

Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe have really been doing it for me the past years but I am now enjoying Stronger Than Pride

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 08:38 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

does "no ordinary love" ever lose its power

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:23 (three months ago) link

Just relistened and nope, still great. The stereo panning on the palm-muted electric guitar under Sade's silken vocals is such a great textural touch.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:31 (three months ago) link

They continue to be one of the few artists my dad and his friends love that I also love. Their production makes them tower way above the rest.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 04:38 (three months ago) link

"All About Our Love" is a song i dream about sweetly slow dancing to my spouse 10-20-30 years down the line.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 05:17 (three months ago) link

^That's one of my favorites, too. In fact, all of 'Lovers Rock' is sublime.

KevRus, Thursday, 1 September 2022 04:18 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

who programmed the drums on Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe?

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:59 (one month ago) link

they are perfect

for some reason I had the impression it was the drummer, but apparently no

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:59 (one month ago) link

I'm going to guess Andrew Hale.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:02 (one month ago) link

Thought the thread bump was going to be about this:

Brad Pitt reopens Miraval Studios at Provence wine estate

Award-winning Sade has become the first artist to record new music in the refurbished studios at Château Miraval, co-owned by Pitt and which previously hosted sessions for Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’.https://t.co/LBR5zMfryk

— Decanter (@Decanter) October 11, 2022

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:24 (one month ago) link

do we have a release date?

no & there's not even really much news here, they've been working on the new album since at least 2018. who knows when it'll be done

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:51 (one month ago) link

I think the consensus is that Soldier of Love was a bit underwhelming?

I'd be very (happily) surprised if they reach former heights on a new release

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:56 (one month ago) link

I think the consensus is that Soldier of Love was a bit underwhelming?

No way.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:59 (one month ago) link

Alfred otm

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:04 (one month ago) link

i guess i'll pay whatever i have to when she tours

absolutely the best arena show i've ever seen, definitely do so.

adam, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:03 (one month ago) link

haha I just knew Alfred would be into it

not for me

corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:33 (one month ago) link

"Soldier of Love" (the song) ruled live. As did Sade on that last tour.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:59 (one month ago) link

haha I just knew Alfred would be into it

not for me

― corrs unplugged

Ha. Does anyone else think Diamond Life their weakest? Apart from the singles and Timmy Thomas cover it's hard to remember how the tracks go when I look at the listing.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:16 (one month ago) link

I think Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe tower over the rest

corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:31 (one month ago) link

diamond life is so amazing it feels wrong to call it the weakest anything but it is my least favorite sade record yes

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:46 (one month ago) link

absolutely the best arena show i've ever seen, definitely do so.

I saw the Love Deluxe tour. Life-changing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:26 (one month ago) link

I'm sure I've detailed it upthread somewhere but I saw her live at MSG and was up in the cheap seats with my friends, having just bought hot dogs and beer, when out of nowhere somebody in a hi-vis vest started handing out free floor tickets. We were agog. Eventually we were led down to the floor, where folding metal chairs had been set up in rows, and waiters wearing waistcoats were swanning around with trays of plastic champagne flutes with strawberries floating in them. Every time we stood up to dance we got yelled at by the people behind us. Well excuuuuuuuse me! Afterwards somebody was telling me that she's famous for leaving the building before the last notes of the encore have even finished playing. GOAT

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:51 (one month ago) link

Afterwards somebody was telling me that she's famous for leaving the building before the last notes of the encore have even finished playing

oh man what a power move, absolute queen.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:55 (one month ago) link

it's a huge ask for me to go to anything, i hate crowds and i live in the fucking wilderness and everything is sign-over-your-car-title expensive now etc, but if she ever makes a stop in l.a. and i still have a grand on my credit card i would at least make an attempt to get tickets and airfare.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:59 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaD3SgPuccE

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:02 (one month ago) link


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