Sade: Classic or Dud?

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I'm greatly frustrated by the lack of a straight-ahead, Sade classic or dud thread on ILM.

http://qblog.nov.ru/images/uploads/SADE_1984.jpg

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://re3.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/25/m3/2653254771

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

http://re3.yt-thm-a04.yimg.com/image/25/m4/2954952416

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://sp1.yt-thm-a02.yimg.com/image/25/m7/3938798248

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://re3.yt-thm-a04.yimg.com/image/25/m4/2837561966

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

why is this thread necessary??

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link

^^

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to invite the folks who would say "dud" to a duel, you see? Let's have it out.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

That's more sportsmanlike than is befitting of a Sade-hater.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I say oil up the guillotine.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link

why is this thread not necessary?

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:23 (thirteen years ago) link

thread can only be saved by large images of sade being hott (pretty much any pic of her)

gershy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.langfieldentertainment.com/images/IMAGES%20TO%20KEEP/sade.jpg

gershy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I know I am an old man tonight, because I just wiki-ed her and found out she's 49. And of course she is, if I think about it. Still. I hate it when time passes.

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/images/classicpela7sade.l.jpg

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

large images of sade being hott (pretty much any pic of her)

yes, i also noted that GIS is none too forthcoming with the pics of her at 7 a.m. in curlers and her "comfortable" robe.

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^my desktop photo

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I've started quite a few Sade threads around here. Apart from some isolated comments on how Sade fans couldn't possibly "love music", they've been well recieved.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link

dood. 'your love is king' slays a party if mixed into hiphop. she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

U-Haul, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

harumph!

zaxxon25, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll use this thread to recommend both of her live DVDs

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

dood. 'your love is king' slays a party if mixed into hiphop. she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

Yes. Almost every good old song should be remixed and updated. For the kids!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

by your side is the tenderest ever

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

-- U-Haul, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:07 (48 minutes ago) Link

no offense dude, this sounds like awful idea

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Really, really happy I had the chance to see her perform. Her voice is just as stunning live. "Is It a Crime?" = SWOON. I'll check out those live DVDs mentioned.

scampering alpaca, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

actually it would have been dope to see her do a record produced by Massive Attack in their prime. but you really cant fault her music at all.

pipecock, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Good lord, her with Massive Attack. That sounds like a fantastic idea.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.

Not everyone, apparently. From AMG's review of Promise:

was once again the personification of cool, laid-back singing, seldom extending or embellishing lyrics, registering emotion, or projecting her voice. This demeanor made her more desirable in the minds of many fans and was perhaps the ultimate misapplication of the notion of sophistication.

From AMG's review of Stronger Than Pride:

After two LPs with little or no energy, Sade demonstrated some intensity and fire on her third release. . . . Not that she was suddenly singing in a soulful or bluesy manner; rather, Sade's dry and introspective tone now had a little more edge, and the lyrics were ironic as well as reflective.

AMG was also lukewarm on Diamond Life. To be fair, all three of these reviews were written by the same reviewer (Ron Wynn). Still, I'm surprised, since I've always thought that AMG seemed pretty generous to artists (maybe that's a complete misperception).

FWIW -- not much, I know -- I like Sade, but I don't think she's as great as most others here apparently do. De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I know I'm gonna sound like some random googler, but, Sade? I love her. I mean, I really, really love her.

(Um, classic obv.)

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

That is a really rare contrarian POV for AMG.

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:31 (thirteen years ago) link

PS: Most classic for me of all her classic moments: "Every day is Christmas / And every night is New Year's Eve."

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

live album is good

chaki, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 08:04 (thirteen years ago) link

'By Your Side' is very soothing

joedee, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Bimble, don't be so literal! I started this one in 2001:

Sade: Hologram or Dud?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

If anyone's interested in what a Sade/Massive Attack Collabo might have sounded like, this is probably the closest thing to it -

Sade - "Love Is Stronger Than Pride (Mad Professor Mix)"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sks22h

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

There's also a shitty Neptunes remix of 'By your side' floating around

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

It's on the single. I don't like it mainly because it changes the chord progression, rendering Sade's singing faintly ridiculous for anyone who loves the original..

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

theres a vinyl 2x lp of a bunch of remixes of sade out there that includes that mad prof. mix. I saw it the other day at a record store

deej, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

It's OK. Don't spend a fortune on it, tho

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

heres one from what.cd

sade - best of (the remixes)

01-sade-love_is_stronger_than_pride__mad_professor_mix
02-sade-give_it_up__kenny_larkin_rmx
03-sade-kiss_of_live__deep_mix
04-sade-feel_no_pain__nellie_hooper_mix
05-sade-turn_my_back_on_you__heffs_mix
06-sade-sweetest_taboo__extended_version
07-sade-i_never_thought_id_see_the_day__danny_tenaglias_musk_men_mix
08-sade-by_your_side__ben_watt_mix
09-sade-somebody_already_broke_my_heart__excursions_mix

jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man im listening to that neptunes by your side and yes it is awful - talk abt completely missing the mark uhg

jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I should have said "Everyone thinks she's classic except for one AMG reviewer who doesn't post here anyway and is more on-the-fence than negative, anyway."

HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember that Kenny Larkin remix of 'Give it Up' as being pretty good?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

You're in luck: http://turbocity.blogspot.com/2007/09/best-of-remixessade.html

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

As much as I love Sade I don't understand how a live album could be worth having. I've been to one of her shows (at Madison Square Garden) and it was mindblowing, but aside from a conga flourish or two, the music itself seemed exactly the same as on record..

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

OTM. Live DVDs on the other hand...

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.

pipecock, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

god, 'no ordinary love' is so fucking beautiful.

lex pretend, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

ah! awesome

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 1 December 2014 23:10 (six years ago) link

I was there for an event his wife was hosting. There was one room set up as a studio and there was all this Sade memorabilia around, then I noticed the platinum plaques on the walls and was like wait a minute...

burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Monday, 1 December 2014 23:11 (six years ago) link

"They take really long vacations."

burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Monday, 1 December 2014 23:14 (six years ago) link

For some of these acts who disappear for a long stretch, I sort of want every single generically titled thread to be amended with either "not an RIP thread" or "there is a new album coming out."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 December 2014 23:29 (six years ago) link

Sade, doesn't age. How could she die?

burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:18 (six years ago) link

I saw her live a couple of years ago. She moves with such purpose. She will live forever.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:55 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

ummmm so classic

been playing diamond life all the time this week

marcos, Thursday, 22 September 2016 15:24 (four years ago) link

good times come and they go

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 September 2016 15:50 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

She's back! With one song but still

http://www.okayplayer.com/music/new-sade-music-2018.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:51 (three years ago) link

From little things big things grow.

The last time I saw her live she kicked my ass.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:44 (three years ago) link

Wow. Can’t wait to hear it

calstars, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 01:21 (three years ago) link

And here's said song

https://audiomack.com/song/no-id-4/flower-of-the-universe

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 04:38 (three years ago) link

It's very nice, I just wish the drums were mixed a little lower. They're a bit distracting.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 05:13 (three years ago) link

the drums feel like a callback to Soldier Of Love, I love this

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 10:17 (three years ago) link

never forget the quantization discourse

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 10:27 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Stellar piece on her by Tracey Thorn

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music-theatre/2018/03/queen-quiet-storm-tracey-thorn-return-sade

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:48 (three years ago) link

WHAT

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:51 (three years ago) link

As a singer, Sade sounds like no one else. There’s a plangent tone to her voice, a liking for the long-held note, almost vibrato-free. A precision of diction. No melisma, no swooping octave leaps. And there are two very distinct tones – softness with just a slight husk in the bottom range, and above that, a more strident note, bringing a hardness which is vital, adding the only sharp edge.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:55 (three years ago) link

It's just a brilliant piece. That Chet Baker comparison Sade gave her! Astounding.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:02 (three years ago) link

Great piece, with a very good final paragraph as kicker.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 March 2018 03:06 (three years ago) link

i'm astounded

austinb, Thursday, 29 March 2018 04:32 (three years ago) link

that piece is so fucking excellent

map, Thursday, 29 March 2018 06:40 (three years ago) link

to get compared to chet baker's playing by sade

map, Thursday, 29 March 2018 06:41 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.nts.live/shows/test-pressing/episodes/test-pression-w-andrew-hale-9th-june-2018

Andrew Hale (from the band) was on Test Pressing's radio show at the weekend for a Sade special. They only seem to have recorded the first hour but I went into the chatroom and asked what was happening with a new Sade album and near the end of the show he confirmed it is being actively worked on.

boxedjoy, Monday, 11 June 2018 14:14 (three years ago) link

🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2018 14:18 (three years ago) link

I think about the live show I saw a few years back all the time.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 June 2018 15:02 (three years ago) link

In the wikipeida article about Sade (band) it says Eric B and Rakim referenced Smooth Operator in Paid In Full. I can't find the sample or lyrical reference. Can someone point out what i'm missing?

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:55 (three years ago) link

that statement on wikipedia seems to be based on a misreading of the quote from rakim that is cited.

visiting, Monday, 11 June 2018 21:08 (three years ago) link

Thanks, finally clicked the link to the source of that reference and I can see where someone would be confused by his quote.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 11 June 2018 22:01 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4H9T3iFfWg

new song

niels, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:35 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

https://store.sade.com/products/this-far-boxset

forthcoming boxset of all six albums remastered on vinyl

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:11 (ten months ago) link

I moved cities a couple of months ago and didn't bring my record player (or much of anything else besides my clothes and laptop) and tbh i doubt i'll ever get a record player because i feel less attached to physical media by the day (yes, I know that the cloud and digital isn't forever and physical media is Actually Good for preservation etc) but i still want this set so badly

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:17 (ten months ago) link

diamond life and promise were dollar bin staples a few years ago, super easy to find great copies for cheap. don't know if that's still the case. i've never seen anything from tld onward in a bin. used cds on the other hand are plentiful iirc.

what i would personally kill for otoh is a complete set of remixes on vinyl.

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:32 (ten months ago) link

this sade at live aid vid is probably humanity reaching a peak it'll never regain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwDjJP_l5AY

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:54 (ten months ago) link

you can still find lots of their records in used bins cheap yes, and they sound great. tough to think of another act less in need of a remastering job.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 September 2020 04:36 (ten months ago) link

i actually just got used copies of diamond life and stronger than pride back in June! I'd never heard stronger than pride before and i just love how vaporous the record is

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 3 September 2020 05:40 (ten months ago) link

Paradise and Siempre Hay Esperanza are two of my absolute favourites

chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:42 (ten months ago) link

murgatroid otm
maybe setting aside a week or two for a nonstop sade listening party isn't a bad idea

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:51 (ten months ago) link

two things in life will never change: 1) the sun will always be hot and 2) sade will always rule.

and yes, stronger than than pride is probably the most overlooked sade album. after love deluxe (which will never be topped by anyone), pride has always been my #2 pick, easily.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:43 (ten months ago) link

have you got a tracklisting for that?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:41 (ten months ago) link

you can still find lots of their records in used bins cheap yes, and they sound great. tough to think of another act less in need of a remastering job.

― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yes, found promise in my mother-in-law's record collection recently, sounds amazing

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:43 (ten months ago) link

can't think of many other things in life that match the dollar to pure joy ratio of buying an 80s sade lp secondhand

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:47 (ten months ago) link

you too can be in the presence of a goddess for $1

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:49 (ten months ago) link

have you got a tracklisting for that?

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, September 3, 2020 12:41 PM

fuck! i'm sorry, mixcloud has really gone overboard with the efforts to not get copyright dinged. the tracklist used to be there. i didn't write it down anywhere else, so hang tight, i'm gonna dig through discogs info and see if i can get it compiled again.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 3 September 2020 20:11 (ten months ago) link

Haha lol ok thanks. Am listening now. Love the vinyl crackles :)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 September 2020 20:19 (ten months ago) link

here's the tracklist for that mix and where the tunes first appeared:

1. Love Affair With Life (Your Love is King b-side)
2. Smooth Operator/Red Eye (Smooth Operator 12")
3. Should I Love You (Hang on to Your Love b-side)
4. Wired (Is it a Crime? b-side)
5. Love Is Stronger Than Pride [Mad Professor Remix] (Feel No Pain b-side)
6. Super Bien Total [Extended Mix] (Paradise b-side)
7. Spirit (Smooth Operator b-side)
8. Keep Hanging On [Live] (Paradise b-side)
9. Make Some Room (Nothing Can Come Between Us b-side)
10. Room 55 (Kiss of Life b-side)

enjoy.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 3 September 2020 20:59 (ten months ago) link

all credit due to my homie tREBLEFREE for putting that mix together. it was just an idea i had; he did all of the actual work. check him out on mixcloud for monthly r+b mixes that will feed your soul: https://www.mixcloud.com/treblefree

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 3 September 2020 21:03 (ten months ago) link

Awesome! Thank you!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 September 2020 13:53 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

Birthday wishes to Sade Adu who turns 62 years young today pic.twitter.com/aAPz1NuVl3

— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) January 16, 2021

62 today!

calstars, Saturday, 16 January 2021 21:17 (six months ago) link


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