MELLON POLLIE AND THE INFINITE SADNESS

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POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE

Poll Results

OptionVotes
5. "1979" – 4:25 35
6. "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" – 4:18 31
12. "Muzzle" – 3:44 10
2. "Tonight, Tonight" – 4:14 9
13. "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans" – 9:21 7
5. "Here Is No Why" – 3:45 6
4. "Zero" – 2:41 5
10. "We Only Come Out at Night" – 4:05 5
1. "Where Boys Fear to Tread" – 4:22 4
7. "Thru the Eyes of Ruby" – 7:38 4
3. "Thirty-Three" – 4:10 3
2. "Bodies" – 4:12 3
# "Tonite Reprise" – 2:40 3
1. "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" – 2:52 3
11. "Galapogos" – 4:47 2
10. "Cupid de Locke" – 2:50 2
3. "Jellybelly" – 3:01 2
6. "Tales of a Scorched Earth" – 3:46 2
8. "Fuck You (An Ode to No One)" – 4:51 2
14. "Take Me Down" (James Iha) – 2:52 1
13. "By Starlight" – 4:48 1
12. "Lily (My One and Only)" – 3:31 1
7. "To Forgive" – 4:17 1
9. "X.Y.U." – 7:07 1
9. "Love" – 4:21 1
4. "In the Arms of Sleep" – 4:12 1
# "Infinite Sadness" – 4:021
11. "Beautiful" – 4:18 0
8. "Stumbleine" – 2:54 0
14. "Farewell and Goodnight" (Corgan/Iha) – 4:22 0


Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 05:59 (twelve years ago) link

(ans: 5. "Here Is No Why" – 3:45 )

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 06:00 (twelve years ago) link

Pick a good album why don't you oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 06:01 (twelve years ago) link

stumbeline

jergïns, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

no idea, since the better tracks are fairly even

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 06:50 (twelve years ago) link

So many great songs, but it's gotta be "1979."

Simon H., Wednesday, 5 March 2008 06:56 (twelve years ago) link

Muzzle

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

Holy christ what is the point of this.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

1979 easily, though there are several great songs on this album.

ablaeser, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

Shoulda been one disc

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

Man those last eight tracks are such a great run.

Simon H., Wednesday, 5 March 2008 07:12 (twelve years ago) link

Someone start a thread "best names of Poll Threads"

This one gets a gold.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

Man those last eight tracks are such a great run.

Glad you said that as most people would consider things like "Beautiful" and "We Only Come Out At Night" to be filler, but I reckon these make the album.

As for best track, that's very very difficult. Tempted to go with 1979, but there are so many decent songs on this.

the next grozart, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 08:48 (twelve years ago) link

"Porcelina" easily.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

I think I bought and listened to this album once when it first came out, and haven't touched it since. Thought 1979 was alright though, so that's my vote.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

Good lord I agree with geir

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

Thru the Eyes of Ruby gets my vote.

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

1979...otherwise still trying to figure out how to make listenable sense of this album, which I want to love since I thought the first two were great (maybe it's the mix that grates and makes me want to stop listening after "Zero"? or maybe it's that I'm not metal enough? or blah blah Corgan's voice? not the latter, actually)

Euler, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

haha and here i was thinking the thread name was a typo

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

"By Starlight" over "Porcelina" by a nose.

MC, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

It was crap then. It's crap now.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

Zero's OK.

chap, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

here is no why.

latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

Whoa, I agree with Geir too.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

This is impossible, so I'll go with their NIN impression, "Love".

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

I'm leaning towards "Bodies" but I should pull it out to check. I like "Love" a lot too. And "Thirty-Three".

Sundar, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

1979 ftw

Jordan, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

ha GIS for "porcelina" sort of hilarious:
http://images.elfwood.com/art/r/o/robinbean/merland.jpg

Just barely like it more than "1979", because shit is EPIC man.

nickalicious, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

The only SP song I like is 1979.

Bodrick III, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

I never quite got these guys, but Muzzle is a great song.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

'here is no why'. i'll be surprised if 1979 doesn't win

6335, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, "Muzzle" is pretty great too. I could have voted that easily.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gonna tip my hat to disc 2 & "We Only Come Out at Night"

I used to claim I didn't like Smashing Pumpkins. Then I realized I own four of their albums and don't want to flush them. So while I despise the "guilty pleasure" concept, SP would rank high on my list.

zaxxon25, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

I just listened to this album for the first time in 5 years and hereby DENOUNCE and REJECT my previous vote for "Porcelina" in favor of "Jellybelly" which is my absolute favorite Punkins song and how the fuck did I forget about it!???

nickalicious, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

voted for Muzzle, but so many contenders. great album(s).

stephen, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

Through the Eyes of Ruby for me.

youcangoyourownway, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'd love to hear the vinyl version of this with the different tracklisting.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 6 March 2008 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

Lots of great songs on this album. I saw them on this tour as well, they were great.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 March 2008 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

definitely MUZZLE

69, Thursday, 6 March 2008 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Cupid de Locke vs Love tossup

billstevejim, Thursday, 6 March 2008 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

"Muzzle" was disappointing live but when I saw them it was the guy who isn't Jimmy Chamberlain. Otherwise also a fav.

nickalicious, Thursday, 6 March 2008 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

This is actually one of the best examples of patchy double albums that could have made great single albums.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 March 2008 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

people try and make that case about all double albums

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 6 March 2008 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

I think you'd be lucky to get a decent EP out of this, to be honest.

nate woolls, Thursday, 6 March 2008 08:24 (twelve years ago) link

agreed. Maybe a single in 'thirty three'

joedee, Thursday, 6 March 2008 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

No, really. There are around 10 "pop" songs here that are actually quite nice. They would only have to get rid of the noisiest and most aggressive tracks and they'd have a marvellous single album. Shame about that singing voice though - this is one of few cases where I agree it was a good idea to keep the vocals behind in the mix.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

Impossible to choose between "Muzzle," "Porcelina," "Thru The Eyes Of Ruby," "Galapagos," and "Where Boys Fear To Tread," but I think I'll give it to the latter since it hasn't been getting upped yet on this thread...

Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 March 2008 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

As for the "make it one disc" thing, I raised that question on this thread and got some responses, for anybody into that kind of thing...

Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 March 2008 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

who gonna be the kook that votes 4 tales of a scorched earth

ralph, Friday, 7 March 2008 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck's sake - the whole point of Mellon Collie is that it's an overblown indulgence-fest; one of the last ones in mainstream rock - and that's why it's a great album. All this trimming-down talk, fffff!

the next grozart, Friday, 7 March 2008 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

Also as a seasoned cynical adult and not an optimistic hormonal teenager, I am really impressed at how strong a reaction I still have emotionally to "Galapagos".

nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Surprised bullet did so well!

nickalicious, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

Dissappointed bullet did so well.

our work is never over, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

You crazy

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

Whoever voted "Take Me Down" deserves some credit.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

Those three songs deserved at least one vote!

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Disappointed bullet did so well.

Ditto. Also how did "Scorched" get two but "X.Y.U." only got one?

Simon H., Tuesday, 25 March 2008 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

"Bullet" is a great song, guys. Admit it. (I wouldn't have voted for it, but I'm certainly not disappointed!)

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of people seem to voting, having only heard the singles...

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 06:08 (twelve years ago) link

That was my first thought when I saw the results too. The singles are disappointingly prominent, when for me at least they are by far the less interesting songs on the album.

krakow, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:26 (twelve years ago) link

hahah yeah, pretty amazing that the likes of 'thru the eyes of ruby' should be so comprehensively overlooked in favour of the (admittedly more immediate-sounding) 'bullet with butterfly wings'

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:32 (twelve years ago) link

"1979" a deserving front-runner though (even if I prefer "Thirty-Three").

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Beautiful" should have gotten at least one vote just for the "na na na" part.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

"beautiful" is a really sweet track.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

GOAT album

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:08 (nine years ago) link

is the "Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo" boot any good? I saw them on the tour after this (I think Veruca Salt opened? I was like 11) and I would lvoe to hear what they sounded like, that seems like the msot popular one

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:12 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

No votes for 'Beautiful'? Fuck, man.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:03 (seven years ago) link

"Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo"

lol

how's life, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:09 (seven years ago) link

Hard for me to think that any song besides "1979" should win this. It's also hard to believe that the time between now and when "1979" came out (1995) is longer than between 1979 and 1995.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:13 (seven years ago) link

1979 is so overrated, it's good for the first minute or so and then it just does the same thing for another three minutes

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, if I compiled a Top 10 of my favourites from this album, '1979' wouldn't make it in there. I love the way '1979' sounds, but I definitely think there's much much better songs than it here.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Poliopolice = the Accidental Parodist

que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:26 (seven years ago) link

1979 is so overrated, it's good for the first minute or so and then it just does the same thing for another three minutes

this describes most songs though. i like this song because it, more than any other song on the album, captures an elusive nostalgia that is hard to describe. Most of this album is full of lazy, indistinct, by-the-numbers Pumpkins tracks that sound like they were cranked out very quickly. "33" is good though.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:16 (seven years ago) link

1979, here is no why, ruby, tonight, muzzle, porcelina are the most euphoric songs on the record so they will always win over the dour/angry/goofy songs. even though the range of moods is what makes mcis so amazing.

yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:00 (seven years ago) link

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

Heyman (crüt), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Crut OTM.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Aeroplane Flies High is every bit as good as Mellon Collie. They were riding a ridiculous songwriting hot streak at the time. "Cherry"? "Meladori Magpie"? The beautiful piano cover of "My Blue Heaven"? "Ugly"? "Set the Ray to Jerry"? "God"? That rocking instrumental with the drum solo? All great great stuff.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:07 (seven years ago) link

it bums me out that Aeroplane isn't on Spotify

some dude, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:12 (seven years ago) link

yeah, I just went looking for it there. ;_;

Heyman (crüt), Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:14 (seven years ago) link

reissue coming v soon. with even more c sides

yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 11 April 2013 04:55 (seven years ago) link

Neato

que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 11 April 2013 05:12 (seven years ago) link

ZERO, people

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 11 April 2013 12:16 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

where boys fear to tread, lately. monster riff

flappy bird, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:17 (five years ago) link

i haven't done this for many, many years, but tonight i think i will crank up the old stereo and play the entire album

1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:21 (five years ago) link

I still can't believe that 'Beautiful' didn't get any votes, it's always been one of my highlights of the album... I particularly love the way it changes from this seemingly loop-based thing to the full band playing in the middle section, with that gorgeous sitar-like guitar sound.

and we're still talking about that Pitchfork list? Christ. (Turrican), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:41 (five years ago) link

yeah I love that whole last side

canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 27 August 2015 21:51 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

These days, I would definitely vote for Ruby. Blue disc is a monster!

jorts l0chinski (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:04 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

nearly a decade of listening to this album nearly constantly I never thought much of "To Forgive" but it fucking kills me now. happened all of a sudden last fall, I remember the day. it opened up, or swallowed me in.

and funny how Billy's singing on "In the Arms of Sleep" is so hard to take seriously sometimes but then sometimes you're riding on every syllable and sibilance.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 04:28 (one year ago) link

1:00:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYyGECNfz0

(newly uploaded show btw, never circulated afaik)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 18:32 (one year ago) link

is the "Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo" boot any good? I saw them on the tour after this (I think Veruca Salt opened? I was like 11) and I would lvoe to hear what they sounded like, that seems like the msot popular one

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, December 8, 2010 9:12 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo

Tracks

Tonight, Tonight
In the Arms of Sleep
Cupid de Locke
Thirty-three
Today
Soma
Take Me Down
Beautiful
Rhinoceros
Rocket
Disarm / Spaceboy
Dancing in the Moonlight [Thin Lizzy]
Tonight, Tonight
Cupid de Locke
Thirty-three
1979

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Label: Foamhead
ID: FH004
Track info: Tracks 1-10: 1996-02-07 - Kezar Pavilion; San Francisco, CA, US - audience, acoustic
Tracks 11-12: 1993-06-30 - VPRO Radio; Hilversum, NL - studio, acoustic
Tracks 13-16: 1996-05-15 - Brixton Academy; London, UK - soundboard, acoustic
Length: 01:14:31

Notes

Track 6 is mislabeled as 'One Last Kiss Goodnight'.
Track 10 is mislabeled as 'Skin Head Fag'.
Track 11 is mislabeled as 'Disarm'.
The liner contains an obviously modified photo of Billy with a swastika on his forehead, and a juvenile insult "Produced by the Bald-Headed Butt-Lover".

peace, man, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 18:37 (one year ago) link

o_O

peace, man, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 18:38 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I am once again having fun toying with the sequencing of MCIS and its b-sides / outtakes. the songs I like to incorporate are the ones that don't feel like they have exact, existing analogues on the existing tracklist - "The Boy" and/or "Pennies" (way more relaxed and economical than usual), "Medelia" (always loved the slightly lo-fi production and piano sound), "...Said Sadly" (country duet vibes), "Transformer" (silly angst-free riffy rocker), "Set the Ray to Jerry" (basically its own genre), "Aeroplane Flies High" (OK, this one is a little redundant but it's also like one of their 10 or 20 best songs). I also like "Infinite Sadness" a lot though I guess it's technically SD-era.

"God" and "Ugly" and a few others are also good but they do feel like lesser counterparts to songs that are already in the mix

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:55 (one week ago) link

The bridge of “Beautiful” is a tight piece of business.

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 00:15 (one week ago) link

xp “Infinite Sadness” is the last track on the 3xLP version of MCIS!

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 11 September 2020 05:28 (one week ago) link

what if Kurt Cobain sang "1979"

Neanderthal, Friday, 11 September 2020 05:28 (one week ago) link

I never fully appreciated “1979” (beyond “good song”)—due to its ubiquity, my lack of interest in the Pumpkins by that point, etc.—but it’s really a home run on every level. I was “unexpectedly ambushed by emotion” this afternoon, when it came on as I listened to the album driving home on the freeway.

(It’s funny how it’s randomly plopped on the album as track #57, or whatever.)

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 06:03 (one week ago) link

every single line of that song (except “Beneath the sound of hope”) is annotated in Genius dot com

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 06:23 (one week ago) link

it’s official: billy corgan is a rap genius

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 11 September 2020 06:43 (one week ago) link

xp “Infinite Sadness” is the last track on the 3xLP version of MCIS!

I forgot! It's funny that it literally has "Siamese Outtake" tacked onto its Spotify title

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 11 September 2020 12:37 (one week ago) link


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