A Thread for Simple Minds - Sons & Fascination/Sister Feelings Call

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The sibling albums released more or less together:

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I prefer Sisters but there is an awful lot of godhead, here. Check out the bassist on "Sweat In Bullet" or "Theme For Great Cities" etc. Surprisingly it's "Careful Career" that suddenly especially kills me after all these years. I just think these two albums are essential. What say you?

Bimble, Sunday, 17 February 2008 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"In Trance As Mission" is my go-to song from here, but "Love Song" is is such a storming track.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 February 2008 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Theme For Great Cities is probably the best song they ever recorded.

f. hazel, Monday, 18 February 2008 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

sister feelings call is better! i think. i'll have to play them again soon to make sure. i dig them both though. such a great period for them.

what a great band. um, until around 1984 anyway.

scott seward, Monday, 18 February 2008 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

life in a day - vs- real to real cacophony (both 1979!)

new gold dream -vs- sparkle in the rain

it's amazing to me that i still own all these albums. i've gotten rid of so much stuff over the years.

scott seward, Monday, 18 February 2008 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"The American" and "Love Song" always do it for me, though "Sons and Fascination" is awesome as well.

2for25, Monday, 18 February 2008 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Side one of Sister Feelings Call and side two of Sons and Fascination make for a great album.

f. hazel, Monday, 18 February 2008 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

In Trance As Mission
Sweat In Bullet
Wonderful In Young Life
Careful In Career
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Theme For Great Cities
The American
20th Century Promised Land
Seeing Out The Angels

^^^this'd be a full 10/10 all-timer imo

imago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:08 (two weeks ago) link

guess you can sub in Love Song or 70 Cities if you want but I don't want to remove any of those tracks is the issue

imago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 13:09 (two weeks ago) link

I had the Canada-only version of Sons and Fascination, where side 1 begins with "Love Song" and ends with "In Trance as Mission", and the latter still seems very strange as an opening track in its length and pacing.
There's something too strident about "The American" for me, I'd replace it with "Boys From Brazil", "This Earth You Walk Upon" and/or "Love Song".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:25 (two weeks ago) link

Nice track list! I hold with my 2008 opinion for the perfect 1981 Simple Minds album:

Side A:
Theme For Great Cities
The American
20th Century Promised Land

Side B:
Love Song
This Earth That You Walk Upon
Sons And Fascination
Seeing Out The Angel

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:02 (two weeks ago) link

The American has been firmly embedded in my head all week tbh!

In Trance As Mission is a great opening track I reckon. Could go on another ten minutes and it'd still make sense

imago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:19 (two weeks ago) link

i saw them on the sparkle in the rain tour when i was a kid and 'the american' was the only pre-new gold dream song that they played. i still like it but i guess it's the one tune that really jelled with their stadium rock urges

building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:29 (two weeks ago) link

That's maybe why it puts me off.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

guess you can sub in Love Song or 70 Cities if you want but I don't want to remove any of those tracks is the issue

Yeah I'd have to have 70 Cities on there, I'd take out Careful in Career to make room. Can't argue with the rest though!

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:33 (two weeks ago) link

Their subsequent downfall was trying to write comprehensible lyrics to match the scope and swell of their music.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:45 (two weeks ago) link

“Boys from Brazil” is great and atmospheric imo

brimstead, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:33 (two weeks ago) link

not a big fan of “in trance as mission”, the rest of the side smokes it

brimstead, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:34 (two weeks ago) link

70 Cities is the best thing here I think, and probably the most formally ambitious - sounds like a song built by the sound of duelling rocket factories.

I’m not sure there’s really a weak track on the combined CD version except “Wonderful In Young Life”. It is exhaustingly long though.

Tim F, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:25 (two weeks ago) link

70 Cities would slot straight back in at track 3 then. I do really like Wonderful... though. Hmm

imago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 21:54 (two weeks ago) link

i like wonderful in young life too, very magazine-meets-roxy music

building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 3 June 2021 22:04 (two weeks ago) link

I love when they string words in titles as if they have no idea how functional English works!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2021 22:09 (two weeks ago) link

“Wonderful In Young Life” is good! Perhaps it’s just less surprising to me than the other material (perhaps precisely because it is Magazine meets Roxy Music), and coming at the end doesn’t help.

Whereas “70 Cities as Love Brings the Fall” is like... Remain in Light meets Abacab?

Tim F, Thursday, 3 June 2021 22:13 (two weeks ago) link

also electronic cow moos

building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 3 June 2021 22:18 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK-thT2IaaA

slightly later era but have just been watching this tv performance from 1982. version of 'new gold dream' on this is great (starts at 11:05), especially the last couple of minutes - synths just a teeny bit too high in the mix and sounding like a warning of imminent alien invasion, guitar caught up in a whirlpool of delay, bass like a rushing train. it's like some sort of new romantic hawkwind, ominous and psychedelic and really quite strange. there's a version of 'the american' right afterwards and yeah - charlie is already starting to throw in some of those awful out-to-row-z guitar parts, chorus would desperately like to meet an arena that's up for a few nights out and a bit of a singalong

building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 3 June 2021 23:48 (two weeks ago) link

that Hawkwind comparison is so on-point! this kind of IS the space-rock of its time isn't it

imago, Thursday, 3 June 2021 23:59 (two weeks ago) link

"League of Nations" is an attempt to do Can with two bass notes plus mumbling.

Their first album Life In a Day basically alternates between pastiches of Roxy Music and Magazine, but not very effectively.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 4 June 2021 01:35 (two weeks ago) link

yeah the title track is nice but otherwise meh

brimstead, Friday, 4 June 2021 01:48 (two weeks ago) link

Really amazing that they went from the quite drab Life in a Day to the holy-fuck-what-is-this brilliance of Reel To Real Cacophany in less than a year. Hard to think of many (any?) glow ups so extreme in such a short time span.

Tim F, Friday, 4 June 2021 01:55 (two weeks ago) link

I'd say there's a similar leap in quality between the first two Japan albums, also less than a year apart.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 4 June 2021 03:18 (two weeks ago) link

"League of Nations" is an attempt to do Can with two bass notes plus mumbling.

big 'mother sky' vibes on this one too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZSXSICdFE

building a hole (NickB), Friday, 4 June 2021 06:36 (two weeks ago) link

The body of work that Simple Minds produced between 1980 and 1984 is absolutely phenomenal. Some of the most exciting rock music to ever come out of the U.K. I wish they’d stopped then and walked away as legends instead of fading into parody

beamish13, Friday, 4 June 2021 06:38 (two weeks ago) link

R2RC was a good example of second album syndrome, they went into record with John Leckie with just a few songs, I always used to wonder why it was much cheaper than all the other SM records, then I bought it (around 1985) and shelved it away, love it now, of course.

Maresn3st, Friday, 4 June 2021 10:32 (two weeks ago) link

Love SaF/SFC, but can't help feeling that "Theme for Great Cities" is Jim Kerr's best vocal performance.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 4 June 2021 12:22 (two weeks ago) link

He was fine chanting mystical nonsense, until he caught a bad case of Bono-itis in the mid 80s.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 4 June 2021 14:18 (two weeks ago) link

Real Life is a pretty decent album, but I can't be doing with anything after that

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 15:15 (two weeks ago) link

“film theme” from R2RC is dark, sexy, cool as hell. first heard it on a Daniele Baldelli mix

brimstead, Friday, 4 June 2021 18:32 (two weeks ago) link

Capital City is my jam, I love that bassline so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hth0iPU29tw

Maresn3st, Friday, 4 June 2021 18:43 (two weeks ago) link

<3 the 5x5 box set, that was my full immersion after years of missing out. Because of that I don't think of these albums individually but as part of a whole continuum.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 5 June 2021 01:33 (two weeks ago) link


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