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no, not the erstwhile Walker Brother, but rather the Ariel Pink/Panda Bear collaborator...his new LP, Love Is Real is a somnambulant stumble through the late Joy Division/early New Order catalogue, in equal parts both homage and parody...damn compelling...

anybody else feeling this shit?

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 15:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Already I'm really sorry that this isn't the erstwhile John Walker.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 15:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

So, if this guy had met Scott Walker....

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 15:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Scott's a hip chappie; I'm sure he's very familiar with the Pink/Panda oeuvre...

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

I love this album. Really, really creepy. "My Whole World is Coming Apart" is great.

I kind of wish "Rights for Gays" wasn't on it even though it's one of the catchier songs and I'm sure he's sincere. It plays a little too much like a novelty song I think. But the rest of it is really excellent.

There's some other element besides Joy Divis./N.O. but I can't really put my finger on it... it's almost Italo-y in some parts I guess, but I don't think that's it.

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I want to say there's a dash of Arthur Russell here and there, but pretty much everything these days is said to have a dash of Arthur Russell in it...

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

a few more comments here

I love the whole album, but "Do Your Best" is the one.

Z S, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

thx, and shame on me for not searching...

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Right, who's up tomorrow in the "not that one" artist list? Yesterday was f/5ive...

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

this guy!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61GH2KN4C9L._AA240_.jpg

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 17:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

Listening now and I love what I'm hearing. Yeah, its pretty fucked in a good way. Haunting vocals, 80's art damaged keyboards, like taking a bunch of downers and trying to make a skewed version of what you remembered late-night movie soundtracks sounded like. I agree "Best" is the one.

oscar, Saturday, 16 February 2008 06:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haha. I found that Bobby Brown record in a dollar bin !

oscar, Saturday, 16 February 2008 06:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Rights for Gays" is awesome but when John Maus sings it sounds like a Ween song that you and your long lost friend have an inside joke with.

Z S, Saturday, 16 February 2008 07:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

saw him last nite. the man is psychotic. he makes music for lonely folks. only for the faint of heart.

oscar, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

i love the music, but the vocals sounds like if the big horned tim curry demon from legend had his own bedroom pop project

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Really loving this lately.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 19:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

just wanted to bump this thread to say that love is real is one of my absolute faves of 2007/8 and it's sad it'll never get any poll luvv.

the vocals sounds like if the big horned tim curry demon from legend had his own bedroom pop project

how could you not want to check it out after reading that though?

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Friday, 13 February 2009 09:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I never really liked this dude but today this album was playing when I woke up from a nap and it all clicked and now I think this guy is incredible

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 24 September 2010 21:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Sex with god/sex on top of god

filthy dylan, Friday, 24 September 2010 23:37 (six years ago) Permalink

don't know anything but love is real, but prefer that to most ariel pink

"my whole world is coming apart" for all time

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 24 September 2010 23:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Sex in car/Sex with Ringo Starr...genius...

sonnyboy, Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

would love some new stuff from him

oscar, Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:31 (six years ago) Permalink

bow bow bow bow bowww

patapon pataphysics (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 25 September 2010 10:16 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

No love for "Quantum Leap"? The squiggly synth freakout about two minutes in, the awful/brilliant lyrics that really are about the TV show, anything?

http://www.ribbonmusic.com/label/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WeMustBecomeThePitilessweb1.jpg

My second most anticipated album of the year just behind Gang Gang Dance, I think...

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Sunday, 6 March 2011 22:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Didn't know a new song was out
I was thinking yesterday about how John Maus was probably my favourite musician living in Hawaii
I have no idea why I ever thought he was living there

Odult Ariented Rock (Ówen P.), Monday, 7 March 2011 00:33 (six years ago) Permalink

i thought he lived there too. don't know where i got that tho

dynamicinterface, Monday, 7 March 2011 01:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Maus lectures political philosophy at the University in Manoa.

Didn't know new work was on the way, excited!

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 March 2011 08:45 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMku-GbafEg

like.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:11 (six years ago) Permalink

also like

love his sound, though the songs are sometimes only halfway there

merked, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Sounds a bit like Shocking Pinks. That start bit I mean.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 03:51 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This has leaked, and it is glorious.

He expanded his sound so much on the new record. I stayed away from all the songs that were floating around the web already in live/demo versions, so it's all fresh to my ears. It's way less dense and galling a sound than the previous album. There's more room for fizzy frivolities, both synth and vocal wise. There's colorful backing vocals, This is still John Maus, mind, there's no 'wall of sound' all of a sudden, but there's so much more space in the sound. I can't describe it any other way. He's broadened his audio-scope for sure.

'Hey Moon' immediately stands out as an alternate-universe lullaby/love-song classic, warm glowing piano sounds tickled by metallic lo-fi beats he's got a patent on, a high pitched synth line swirling through the song coyly. And there's so much going on on this record, so much to discover and drop your jaw at. Wow.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:15 (six years ago) Permalink

'Matter of Fact' and 'Believer' instant faves too. Esp the latter, which chorus really reminds me of an eighties hit, but I can't for the life of me figure out which one.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's just 10,000th 80s choruses

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't wait to listen!

Z S, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, good album. Interviewing the guy tomorrow, anyone want me to ask him anything?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying the new album, as I said above.

Ned, I don't so much have a direct question, but I do wonder about his recording process. I believe he's still a philosophy professor, no? Does he pick a period to retreat in a home studio and write and record the album, or is it something that comes together over a long period of time, when he's got some spare time?
Not a real question but I'd be interested to learn more about this.

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 08:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Could be fun! I'll ask and see.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Fun interview! Dude talks mile a minute but I like it!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:49 (six years ago) Permalink

PUSSY IS NOT A MATTER OF FACT

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

the last show I saw of his, his performance was pretty eclipsed by geneva jacuzzi's

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:53 (six years ago) Permalink

funny that geneva jacuzzi hasn't really blown up yet in any way I know of and the last show I went to, one of the acts was a clone of hers

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (six years ago) Permalink

xp Was she wearing mime makeup?

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:55 (six years ago) Permalink

The forthcoming tour will allow for compare/contrast again there -- he was also talking about how he's looking forward to playing with Puro again, loved them at the SXSW shows they did.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:56 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah her face was all made up

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Did you get to discuss the recording process, his working ways? And if you don't mind me asking, for which publication are you writing this interview?

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Great record, kicking myself for not seeing him live when he played round here 6 months back.

Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

just want to say that jacuzzi is a must see live imo

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

saw her years ago and she was rolling on the floor screaming in sparkly clothes while a bunch of strobe lights went off and now she has like a whole fuckin stage performance, like she is a real live performer

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

But she's just a cdr performer. I would've been happy to see her when she came to town a couple weeks ago, but they doubled the ticket price from $10 to $20 ($7 for preorders).

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, it was dance music and nobody was dancing. Trite complaint, I know, but I felt a little like dancing at the time.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

so i am going to see him tonight

i have been led to expect *crazy things*

is this going to be like bauhaus + soul junk or what

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:25 (five years ago) Permalink

also tropic of cancer is opening but they are not really my thing (death to false techno)

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:26 (five years ago) Permalink

can we please mandate that the right John Maus thread is the one where Whiney calls him a "worthless VHS idiot"

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:47 (five years ago) Permalink

i love this guy and think that thread is dumb.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:04 (five years ago) Permalink

and i know none of his backstory which seems to make people annoyed, cos i have a life.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:05 (five years ago) Permalink

hmm that's an odd slur coming from a guy that fucks w/ pre-biggie rap and dope 77-85 reggae

so you're telling me to expect a worthless vhs idiot

:-(

at least i didn't pay for these tix

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:05 (five years ago) Permalink

whoops that was xpost to aero

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i learned about three completely-new-to-me musicians today: frank ocean, twin shadow and john maus. i think i liked john maus' music the best.

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i wonder if he'll do something stupid in honor of comic-con

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i recommend keeping john maus in mind for christmas 2012, that album is burnt into my mind for christmas 2011. "believer" actually sounds like some hipster "last christmas" shit, amazing.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:11 (five years ago) Permalink

you know i think i like that type of stuff the least!

but i really like the muy dramatico tracks like "cop killer" and "don't worship the devil" and i like devo-type things like "navy seals".

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

i am hoping it will be more a.r.e. weapons and less twin shadow, is that a false hope?

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:18 (five years ago) Permalink

that was sporadically awesome and he def punched himself a lot

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 07:54 (five years ago) Permalink

What do you think of "rights for gays"?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 09:37 (five years ago) Permalink

there was some classic whiney g vitriol in that other thread, also pics of cute rodents

sarahell, Sunday, 15 July 2012 10:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I still like the one john maus record I have I gotta say

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:10 (five years ago) Permalink

he played rights for gays! it was awesome and my mormon friend was pumping the fist to it.

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I used "mastering to VHS" to describe Maus itt, as a compliment, though.

Ówen P., Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Rereading that other thread I can't really say there's much distinction between Maus' "inside voice" and Whiney's, get Whiney talking about a nacho or about Canadian rap and he'll say some flaming things too

Ówen P., Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:05 (five years ago) Permalink

He punches himself during live performances?

calstars, Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Briefly saw him in Peckham last year for the Upset the Rhythm fest (Dan Deacon was playing upstairs, think No Age did the second day etc), his mic broke, lol it was like Barry from Eastenders in Extras in that he carried on not giving a fuck.

Ronan's right about 'Believer'.

The new rarities comp is pretty, pretty wonderful too.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

people used to master to 1630 all the time actually

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

all he does live is punch himself and hit himself in the head w/ the mic, he's great, v tall

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

that was sporadically awesome and he def punched himself a lot

― the late great, Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:54 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Saw him live last week ... pretty awful/hilarious. Like, I understand if you're a press-play-&-karaoke-your-own-songs performer and feel the need to maybe compensate by "losing yr shit onstage" and "going bananananans" etc., but someone needs to sit him down for a bit and explain that his stage persona undercuts like 95% of his show and maybe consider toning down the pacing around / intense-hair-grabbing / GRRRR INTENSE stuff?

❀ the cult of ➥upside➥wingspan➥personal growth gurus➥FA charlatans (CompuPost), Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Sounds entertaining. But I think I'd rather just listen to his records.

calstars, Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't understand how him jumping around and being intense undercuts the performance when that is the performance?

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't understand how him jumping around and being intense undercuts the performance when that is the performance?

If I'm parsing you correctly, it's because the "intensity" seems like so much of a put-on (ie, pre-meditated / disingenuous) that it was unintentionally funny, which almost never happens? Thrashing around on stage and looking like you've got bees in yr pants is a pretty standard performative pose; usually, as someone in the audience, you either buy in or watch w/o much interest in the physical performance. Out of the thousand different ways a singer can look intense onstage, he found some sweet-spot where he looked silly enough that I was perma-chuckling/cringing for the whole 30+ minutes. It probably didn't help that he was kind of running through the same four or five physical ticks throughout the whole show.

There was other stuff not to like -- same echo effect on vox, bad skip-track transitions -- but I thought his stage presence was irl lol. Then again I didn't spend any money on the show, so can't really complain that much.

This is coming from someone who likes his music fwiw.

❀ the cult of ➥upside➥wingspan➥personal growth gurus➥FA charlatans (CompuPost), Sunday, 15 July 2012 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i bought in pretty easily

the late great, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:04 (five years ago) Permalink

i admit i did go outside during the last two because i felt like i had seen all of his poses by then but i also just wanted fresh air

i liked his unamplified screaming parts too because there

the late great, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Huh, I might be in the minority then, although I saw a few people around me who were lolling as well (I was kind of on the outskirts though, rather than down front w/ people who were a little more amped). Was just disappointed since I really like the tracks he puts out; but, if other people are connecting to it, I guess, more power to him.

i liked his unamplified screaming parts

Agreed, which is always good!

❀ the cult of ➥upside➥wingspan➥personal growth gurus➥FA charlatans (CompuPost), Monday, 16 July 2012 00:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i was lolling too, i think inside john maus was lolling at times, the only people who never cracked a smile were the girls from tropic of cancer, who i was surprised to see were unaccompanied by silent servant, who was also lolling

it was lolling with rather than lolling at

my friend regifted to john maus a carpentry and paint build-your-own-toy-pirate-ship kit that i had given him, john maus lolled at that but i think that was lolling at

the late great, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:44 (five years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

That album has only gone up and up in my estimation since last year. It's a record I can just have on repeat and not notice it's been looping for about three hours. Helps that it's nice and short.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 09:25 (four years ago) Permalink

no one's been talking about it here but the 'rarities & unreleased material' record is a party & absolutely worth your time.

ogmor, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:22 (four years ago) Permalink

It certainly is a grower and I find the sound of the album - that deliberately 80s sounding synth cheese with doomy vocals thing - to be really intriguing...it should be awful!

yugi ex, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:34 (four years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

now on his wikipedia:

Underground Releases
1984: Maus
1985: Maus Time
1986: Baumaus
1987: Man or Maus?
1988: Maus and the Gang
1989: Maus and the Gang 2: Return of the Maus
1990: Maus and the Gang 3: This Time It's Mausy
1991: The Janitor's First LP, with Sam Anderson and Cory Boik
1992: The Janitor's Second LP, with Sam Anderson and Cory Boik
1993: A Janitor's EP, with Sam Anderson and Cory Boik
1994: Early Songs 1, with Cory Boik
1995: Early Songs 2
1996: Early Songs 3
1997: Early Songs 4
1998: Mass Appeal, with the Tony Alonso Ensemble
1998: The Mystery Molasses LP, with Ian Stahl, Jay Jensen, Gabe Schlake and Jess Bednar
1998: Early Songs 5
2000: Fish With Broken Dreams
2000: Love Letters From Hell
2001: Snowless Winters EP
2003: I Want to Live
2011: Demos

JoeStork, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:17 (four years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

"Believer" is some next level shit

calstars, Friday, 25 April 2014 02:33 (three years ago) Permalink

pretty much

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 25 April 2014 09:06 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

All-time break down

calstars, Saturday, 4 October 2014 00:13 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Psyched to hear that he's planning new music for next year.

calstars, Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:38 (two years ago) Permalink

We Must Become has to be one of the most surprisingly enduring records I've heard in recent years. I didn't expect to give it more than just a cursory listen when it first came out, but I ended up just having it on repeat for weeks and I still play certain tracks on a fairly frequent basis.

Hello, my name is Dark Chocolate Cookie (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:55 (two years ago) Permalink

^^ otm. It's in my top ten of the last ten years probably. Never expected it because his previous work was so scruffy and scrappy, but We Must Become is a stone cold classic start to finish.

Great news that he's going to make music again, was afraid he'd stick to lecturing.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:08 (two years ago) Permalink

I just got my first Twitter follower who's not a member of my family - John Maus!

calstars, Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:46 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

just realized new gold dream by simple minds feels like a total blueprint for the john maus vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMgfi9y-nc

austinb, Sunday, 7 May 2017 05:33 (two months ago) Permalink

https://t.co/NebtrtwBRF
Aug 19th

— John Maus (@JOHNMAUS) May 18, 2017

Aug 19 at moma?

calstars, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Hope it’s something to do with Spotify.

the ghost of markers, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:19 (two months ago) Permalink

I can sort of understand the New Gold Dream comparison in terms of the kinds of chord changes used.. I'm always thinking in terms of arrangements/sonics

brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:34 (two months ago) Permalink

when's he dropping a new album?

dynamicinterface, Friday, 19 May 2017 00:38 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^

joshywinty (josh), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:37 (two months ago) Permalink

i think he said in an interview a few years so he wanted to have a live band for his next album

ufo, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:41 (two months ago) Permalink


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