Paul Revere & the Raiders: C or D

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These guys will forever be classic to me, from their earlier years as a frat-rock band, the 1965-67 prime years ("Kicks," "Just Like Me," etc.), even their later experiments with psychedelia on albums like Collage and Alias Pink Puzz.

Around 1971, they dudded out big time, toning down their rock influences and becoming more straight pop. "Indian Reservation" would have been considered hard rock for Bo Donaldson & the Heywoods, or Paper Lace, but for the Raiders it was a slight step down. I still kinda like the song in spite of itself, but I'd rather hear "Steppin' Out," or "The Great Airplane Strike," or "Let Me," or "Orbit" (tuff instrumental from their frat-rock years)...

Well, I think it's high time the Raiders got their ILM propers, so here ya go...

Rev. Hoodoo, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

classic. search everything. one of my top ten favorite bands of all time. also search two Brotherhood albums and Friendsound album. those being just as near and dear to my heart as anything by the raiders proper.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:55 (sixteen years ago) link

oh also: Terry Melcher is god.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Another decent Raiders-related album: Keith Allison In Action, released some three years before he joined the band as bassist. At least one song, "Louise," uses the same backing track as the Raiders' version.

Rev. Hoodoo, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

the later stuff - which i still dig - isn't the work of a band though. it's mostly mark or mark and terry or even just terry and sometimes paul and sometimes who the hell knows who. indian reservation was a solo mark recording that just ended up raiders material.

THE BROTHERHOOD HAD RIPPED THEM ASUNDER. but it's cool. how much do i love drake levin? i love him THIS MUCH.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

oh also: Terry Melcher is god.

I think that was him who produced the Revolution! LP, right? You can sorta hear a mild Pet Sounds influence on that album, since he and Mark Lindsay were hanging with Brian Wilson at the time. And I think that's Ry Cooder playing slide guitar onm "Wanting You."

Rev. Hoodoo, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

the later stuff - which i still dig - isn't the work of a band though. it's mostly mark or mark and terry or even just terry and sometimes paul and sometimes who the hell knows who. indian reservation was a solo mark recording that just ended up raiders material.

I think Terry may have been out of the picture after '68.

As far as "Indian Reservation," that whole album plays more like one of Mark's adult-contemporary solo albums than anything the Raiders had done up to that point. They sorta got the feeling back on their final LP, Country Wine, which was divided into a fast side and a slow side. But like with most final albums, you could tell it was time for the Raiders to hang it up. (Which they didn't quite do - they immediately hit the Vegas circuit and ground out a few more singles before quietly disbanding in the mid-seventies. I'm not counting the current revival-show Raiders, that's a whole 'nother thing.)

Rev. Hoodoo, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic for "Him Or Me" all by itself.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Just talking about this with a friend. He played live at our Catholic elementary school, and we all sang along in a huge circle. To that first song.

Tape Store, Friday, 27 June 2008 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

They were the house band for Dick Clark's "where the action is", which was hosted by steve alaimo who later went on to become the "Al" in Alston records...which turned into TK

Miami shizzle.

And Van Dyke Parks worked with them and was discovered by brian wilson in the process leading to smile

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 27 June 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Little-known fact: Phil "Fang" Volk, former bassist for Paul Revere and the Raiders, is currently manager of the Sam Ash music store in Las Vegas, NV. Or he was as of last October. Nice guy.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 27 June 2008 04:11 (fifteen years ago) link

just like me is pretty much the perfect pop song.

chicago kevin, Friday, 27 June 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

"Hungry" is one of THEE jams of all time.

inhibitionist, Saturday, 28 June 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

is Spirit of 67 a good record? i saw it for $5 at a antique store and almost bought it

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

RIP Raiders guitarist Drake Levin
http://mza-garage.blogspot.com/2009/07/drake-levin-rip.html

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Scott S will be bummed. :-(

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

aw man, i am bummed. :((( he was truly the coolest dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfLbVwp5Km8

scott seward, Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Also classic: Mark Lindsay's score for Shogun Assassin

kickstand. kickstand? kickstand! (los blue jeans), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP, that friendsound album is so great.

next stop: NOWHERE, i wanna get off (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 9 July 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I heart this song a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsngjk26zY

(Spiritualized could do a terrific cover of this)

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 October 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

RIP Paul Revere

http://www.paulrevereandtheraiders.com

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 October 2014 06:44 (nine years ago) link

Awww. RIP!

sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 5 October 2014 07:44 (nine years ago) link

RIP

You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 October 2014 12:00 (nine years ago) link

My favourite after "Just Like Me" (can't tell what the two clips above are):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_CZ8gV3yRU

And "Indian Reservation" is one of the more charmingly inane K-Tel songs (actually solo Mark Lindsay according to Wikipedia; I thought at first the obit was in reference to Mark Lindsay--I forget there actually was a Paul Revere).

clemenza, Sunday, 5 October 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

Forgot "Him or Me," that's great too.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

RIP

the late great, Monday, 6 October 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

Love all the garage rock hits and would feel bad that I had forgot a few of them except that happens more and more often these days, and never stopped or was embarrassed by liking "Indian Reservation," which I first heard it at the age of eight or nine- I didn't hear the other stuff until I was in my early twenties, don't think it was in rotation on WCBS-FM, is that possible?

You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 October 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

Although "Indian Reservation" seems to share some siren sonorities with something like "The Night Chicago Died" feel like it is a little tougher and better conceived and executed, whereas the latter is an unstable, uneasy undercooked mix of bubblegum and harder rock, remaining on the far side of Guilty Pleasure with its companion piece "Billy Don't Be A Hero."
/strawman

You Better Go Ahn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 October 2014 04:37 (nine years ago) link

He was 76.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 6 October 2014 09:16 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

"You been steppin' out with THE COBBLER!"

Currently spinning a MONO Greatest Hits (with the book!) I found for $1 this weekend.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

Dueling Fuzz & Tremolo on "The Great Airplane Strike" = Chef's Kiss!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

i made a tape for a friend a few years back — called “heavy paul” — that was just all the groovy fuzzed out tracks spanning a handful of records.

when those fuckers get heavy it’s pretty sweet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DLSsVM2Yc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtqK-fn8m5g

budo jeru, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

*bump* because of discussion on Monkees thread

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 January 2021 06:48 (three years ago) link

Only recent became aware that “Kicks” was written as a message to Gerry Goffin.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 January 2021 06:55 (three years ago) link

Currently spinning a MONO Greatest Hits (with the book!) I found for $1 this weekend.

Over a year late on this, but that was an awesome find. The original mono mixes crush the stereo mixes and '80s/'90s-era remixes. A few companies have started putting them all back into print in the last few years. All the mono 45's have been done, and they're getting to the albums too (the good ones). Most people will probably fine with the hits, but I've grown to appreciate Revolution! and quite a few deep cuts. There's probably two or three dozen tracks that I'd consider keepers.

birdistheword, Saturday, 2 January 2021 08:51 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

I listened to a 30-track compilation called Kicks 1963-1972; the only song of theirs I'd ever encountered on radio or TV was the title track, plus a couple on the Nuggets box.
Mark Lindsay's voice regularly crosses the line from cocky to smarmy for me, and the hooks are OK but not great. I was impressed by their shamelessness about copying whatever had been on the AM radio six months earlier. Probably the only keeper for me is "Louie Go Home". I'm glad to know more about them now, anyway.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 12 April 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

I own that comp and have the exact same reactions. I do like their "Steppin' Stone" better than the Monkees'.

Josefa, Monday, 12 April 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

Some English band covered “Louie Go Home” (possibly the only UK cover of a Paul Revere & The Raiders tune):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HZqjNZtRQ4

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

possibly the only UK cover of a Paul Revere & The Raiders tune

Nope. "Louie Go Home" was also by Davie Jones & The King Bees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcKZl0EYhVI

Heard the singer had to change his name. wonder whatever happened to him?

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Just across this pretty good cover version of “I Can See For Miles” by Mark Lindsay and Wayne Kramer released as a digital single last year, apparently from a 2012 Who tribute album.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 November 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Apparently Mark Lindsay really needed to potty, and mean old Ed wouldn't let him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5kGbBNJQl8

PR&tR defy "Classic or Dud", they are equally both.

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:39 (eight months ago) link

Mark Lindsay has a show on the Underground Garage channel on SiriusXM that focuses on all sorts of American Rock'n'Soul, and it's weird to hear him spout (probably scripted) enthusiasm for Apples In Stereo.

They could be a pretty good band - not a great one, but not one deserving of complete dismissal either. The original mono mixes are worth seeking out because all the stereo versions of their music have kind of sucked (either vintage or remixed). It was only in the last decade or so that a lot of them were finally made available in the digital age. (I think the Midnight Ride LP is really the only one left that truly deserves a mono reissue.)

Best heard via compilations, I just made my own - one single disc, almost all original mono mixes, and all that I need from them:

1 Louie, Louie 02:45
2 Louie-Go Home 02:45
3 Mojo Workout 02:23
4 Over You 02:16
5 Sometimes 02:30
6 Oo Poo Pah Doo 02:28
7 Crisco Party / Walking the Dog (live) 06:25
8 Steppin' Out 02:13
9 Just Like Me 02:25
10 I'm Not Your Stepping Stone 02:45
11 Kicks 02:29
12 Ballad Of A Useless Man 02:14
13 Take A Look At Yourself 01:48
14 Hungry 03:00
15 There She Goes 01:48
16 (You're A) Bad Girl 02:01
17 Louise 02:03
18 The Great Airplane Strike 03:01
19 In My Community 02:10
20 Good Thing 03:05
21 Undecided Man 01:48
22 Why Why Why (Is It So Hard) 02:39
23 Ups And Downs 02:53
24 Leslie 02:24
25 Him Or Me - What's It Gonna Be? 02:44
26 Mo'reen 02:31
27 Gone - Movin' On 02:38
28 I Had A Dream 02:22
29 Legend Of Paul Revere 03:08
30 Peace Of Mind 02:30

birdistheword, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:50 (eight months ago) link

looks good. I'd probably add "Time after Time" and "Prince of Peace"

budo jeru, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:56 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukOm8AuxLEY

budo jeru, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:56 (eight months ago) link

pretty good as far as stones rips go

budo jeru, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:56 (eight months ago) link

drum intro to the track that follows on that album, "Ride on my Shoulder" = decent sample fodder.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:04 (eight months ago) link


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