Todd Rundgren: C or D

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I grabbed a copy of the Toddster's "Go Ahead, Ignore Me" (a doubledisc retrospective) this weekend. I've always been of the opinion that he's way underappreciated -- he's got at least two classic albums, one of which (A Wizard, A True Star) is in my all-time top twenty. He was the all-in-one studio whiz that Prince modeled himself after, he's less pretentious and funnier than Frank Zappa whilst still being totally wacked most of the time, he's got a prize collection of sweet-pop singles, and he's not afraid to be ridiculous. So I'm saying classic.

J, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

What are you saying, tho?

J, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i'm saying he's smug and twee

owen hatherley, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Mostly classic. He had some sappy moments though, that I just can't get past. ..And some experiments that weren't that great.. But from 1972 to 1978, Todd was the> man - and so he gains a permanent "classic" moniker. (And a lot of the stuff after '78 was great too - but debatable if it was classic.)

Dave225, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Absolute classic regardless, but less pretentious than Zappa? Ever heard "Healing"? Any of the Utopia stuff? On another note: was Todd the first green-haired pop star?

briania, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ra is probably the most pretentious Todd (outside of that TR-1 stuff he's doing now), and that's loads less pretentious than The Yellow Shark or even Lumpy Gravy. But maybe I just think that 'cause I hate Zappa so much.

J, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, I forgot about Ra, and also kind of discount TR-I. Gee, I really like Zappa, but it's a tough position to defend. "Pretentious" might not be a fair yardstick for these boy-genius types, or for any ambitious pop music. When I diss an artist for being pretentious, what I really mean is that their reach exceeds their grasp.

briania, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think we did Todd fairly recently. I'm coming round to the fact that the only real dog in Todd's massive solo catalogue is 1975's "Initiation". And even that contains Real Man, which is great. The series of LPs he recorded for Warners in the mid-to-late 80s are all full of fabulous sweet-soul ballads and are genuinely underappreciated, even by Todd aficionados. So he's "clever". That's cos he's clever!

But I can't stand Frank Zappa.

I'm really enjoying listening to The Nazz right now, thanks to the recently issued "Todd Sings The Nazz" CD. Seems like all they needed was a good singer. But I think we did The Nazz recently too, so I'll shut up now.

harveyw, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think we did Todd fairly recently.

I searched, I searched! Anybody got the link?

J, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.ilxor.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=007y9b

damn.

J, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Todd Rundgren is great. A Wizard / A True Star and Something / Anything? are really good albums, and the stuff he did with Utopia, especially their first album and Another Live, is also wonderfull.

jonathan thrak, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I love "Wolfman Jack"

J Blount, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

new Rundgren LP - Arena - sort of a metal/stoner guitar record.
sounds good on paper, but the thing itself- i've seen better.
it's not the Todd it used to be..

Zeno, Monday, 22 September 2008 22:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

My friends got me tickets to see him in November...kinda dreading it...never seen him live before and fear it could be a carwreck...

sonnyboy, Monday, 22 September 2008 23:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

He's coming to the super-small community theatre in my town next month.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 13:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard this, but the last one, Liars, was a huge return to form and probably his best record since the 1970's...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 16:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qbzqv

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

"Bang on the Drum" is the best of the "Turn that off! That song couldn't be any more played out TURN IT OFF" songs.

Cunga, Saturday, 2 October 2010 21:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Busy in Louisiana helping kids in the 9th Ward according to Offbeat magazine:

Todd Rundgren is coming to Louisiana in a big way: Not only is he playing the House of Blues (on June 23) and hosting his Toddstock fan convention at the Nottoway Plantation in White Castle, but he’ll be making a side trip to the Upper 9th Ward on June 19, where he’ll join the Youth Orchestra of the Lower 9th Ward (YOL9W) to celebrate his 65th birthday

This month he launched a fan campaign to raise money for the YOL9W; as of this week they’d taken in more than $3,000. He’s also invited fans to design a logo for the Orchestra; the winning entry will be unveiled at the event. The after-school music program aims for social change through music; the group has played eight concerts this year and worked onstage with the Preservation Hall Jazz Band.

As part of the visit, the group will perform at least one of Rundgren’s songs with him.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 May 2013 14:00 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So I've been a fan of Wizard and the pop hits on Very Best of for a little while and have just started exploring his vast discography. I've been listening fairly obsessively. Right now, I almost feel like he was classic on a Beatles level. The guy is almost depressingly talented. Not only is he wildly eclectic but he achieves a fairly high level of mastery at most of the things he attempted: singing, lead guitar, synths (and every other instrument on some albums!), production, songwriting; post-Beatles/Beach Boys pop-rock, 70s singer-songwriter tunes, post-Hendrix guitar solos, eccentric 1-minute art-pop songs, Zappa-meets-Yes epic prog, soul-pop balladeering, electronic new wave, wholesale replications of difficult works by classic artists. I'm pretty surprised by how consistently good I find many of his albums, considering how eclectic they are. I like all of these without much reservation: Runt; Something/Anything; A Wizard, a True Star; Hermit of Mink Hollow; Healing; the first two Utopia albums; Faithful. Plus, there's some really good stuff on Todd and Initiation (didn't get into that 35-min synthesizer composition though).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 July 2013 05:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Faithful

I mean, I imagine that side 1 of this becomes pretty inessential once you get past how impressive it was as an exercise.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 July 2013 05:29 (five years ago) Permalink

He was the all-in-one studio whiz that Prince modeled himself after

there are more than a few moments where he doesn't sound like the model for prince so much as he just simply sounds like prince. his version of "never never land" on wizard for example.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 13 July 2013 08:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Utopia's Deface the Music is way way better so far as a pastiche/homage/parody type thing goes, tho Faithful isn't really that, but y'know. Amazing record

albvivertine, Saturday, 13 July 2013 08:57 (five years ago) Permalink

that's weird; I had a dream about XTC last night and woke up thinking about the Rundgren-produced albums, then opened my computer to see this thread. I suppose I need to hear his own stuff now

imago, Saturday, 13 July 2013 09:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Imago, A Wizard, a True Star is still my favourite so I highly recommend that one. However, I'd also be interested to know what you'd think of the first Utopia album (this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Rundgren's_Utopia_(album) ), since it was his full-on prog album.

Deface the Music was actually the first TR album where I felt turned off pretty soon. It just reminded me of a kind of Beatlesque indie twee-pop that I don't care for. But maybe I'll try again. It's possible that I wasn't in the mood at the time. I didn't make it the whole way through. I love the Beatles so I'm not sure exactly what the problem was.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 July 2013 11:49 (five years ago) Permalink

When you say "Runt", do you mean "Runt" or "Runt. The Ballad of Todd Rundgren"

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 July 2013 12:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I meant the former, the one with "We Gotta Get You a Woman". I still haven't listened to all of The Ballad of.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 July 2013 12:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw him live last night. full on EDM for the most part! The only old song he played was "secret society" from POV, wtf. Oh and he did EDM covers of "personality crisis" and "prime time". 3 piece band, electronic drum kit (think it was prarie prince), lasers, multiple pairs of scifi goggles. Some great guitar solos from Todd and the other guitarist, but todd was mainly singing and dancing. Idk, it was weird.

brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2013 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

t/s: oblivion vs. P.O.V.

brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2013 19:22 (five years ago) Permalink

circle of amour by prince sounds pretty todd-y.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 14 July 2013 09:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Imago... I'd also be interested to know what you'd think of the first Utopia album (this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Rundgren's_Utopia_(album) ), since it was his full-on prog album.

Not Imago here, but if I may interrupt, I'd say it was...

http://lyriki.com/images/thumb/a/a4/AlbumArt-Various_Artists-Best_Prog_Rock_Album_(2003).jpg/250px-AlbumArt-Various_Artists-Best_Prog_Rock_Album_(2003).jpg

Oh, and Evening Star, stick with the 35-min synth composition ('A Treatise on Cosmic Fire'). I've always loved the first half of this, and then, about 30 years later, I finally learned to appreciate the rest of it!

Bloody Snail, Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:24 (five years ago) Permalink

"The Ikon" is really quite amazing - one of the greatest (and longest) prog epics. I never came around to "Treatise" but the start of part three (when things really start to go into full freak mode) is entertaining.

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2013 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

i adore the main riff of "the ikon". those first two utopia albums are so much fun. i could listen to Mid70s Todd and Roer jams forever.

regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Monday, 15 July 2013 03:35 (five years ago) Permalink

roer = roger powell

regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Monday, 15 July 2013 03:35 (five years ago) Permalink

that part in the Ikon when it turns into one of Todd's trademark awesome R&B ballads - the "you don't have to be afraid" bit, it always floors me because its really out of nowhere.

heres the real question - is he worth seeing live nowadays? he's coming to Milwaukee and tickets aren't really too bad - my Dad is big into Todd and I was thinking about taking him.

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2013 03:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw him live last night. full on EDM for the most part! The only old song he played was "secret society" from POV, wtf. Oh and he did EDM covers of "personality crisis" and "prime time". 3 piece band, electronic drum kit (think it was prarie prince), lasers, multiple pairs of scifi goggles. Some great guitar solos from Todd and the other guitarist, but todd was mainly singing and dancing. Idk, it was weird.

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regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Monday, 15 July 2013 03:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Most of his new stuff is still really soulful, though, he opened with "truth" from Liars and that's kind of where the new stuff branches out from.

regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Monday, 15 July 2013 03:49 (five years ago) Permalink

my bad, didnt fully read the thread - I dunno if that's good or bad, I don't think either of us have heard anything even up to POV, but his new stuff does get good reviews. interesting

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2013 13:00 (five years ago) Permalink

i just remembered that he DID play a medley of "hello it's me"/"i saw the light"/"can we still be friends" for the encore. all sidechain-y dance pop versions.

regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Monday, 15 July 2013 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I'm astounded by how great the second side of Faithful is - combine it with side one of Initiation and you've got a hell of a record

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

for all the praise "Couldn't I Just Tell You" seems to get, "Love of the Common Man" is basically just as good, and maybe even more repeatable

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

IDM covers of "personality crisis" and "prime time".

I was just gonna ask "The Tubes' "Prime Time?" and then I went to youtube. Uh, yeah, that's kinda goofy. The synths sound way too thin and cheesy.

Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Love of the Common Man is great

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

this guy is a piece of shit

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:58 (four years ago) Permalink

a soulless fake prog nilsson is no way to go through life, son

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 21:59 (four years ago) Permalink

There is nothing fake about Rundgren's prog.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Ummmm

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:11 (four years ago) Permalink

a soulless fake prog nilsson

Even if this was true, it sounds like it would be pretty cool.

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:22 (four years ago) Permalink

soulless? have you heard "the last ride"?

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:53 (four years ago) Permalink

when i met her, it felt like the first time i heard "bang on the drum all day"

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:55 (four years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure Of Montreal would not exist at all without this record.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 20 June 2015 21:03 (three years ago) Permalink

The last big track of Initiation and his stuff in Utopia seems to me the only thing more proggy than Wizard A True Star (of his work in the 70s)

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 June 2015 21:49 (three years ago) Permalink

I think _Todd_ is probably Todd at peak prog. Something like "In and out the chakras we go" is just prog to the wall. "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire", on the other hand, is just too much of a Tales from Topographic Oceans trip for me to listen to.

rushomancy, Saturday, 20 June 2015 23:48 (three years ago) Permalink

"A Treatise on Cosmic Fire" sounds like that to me in name only. I can't think of any big prog bands that have a track like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 June 2015 23:53 (three years ago) Permalink

I like Todd (1974) by far the best. I do also like Something / Anything? and ...Wizard..., but for me it's like Goldilocks in reverse - those two are Mama Bear and Baby Bear's albums/songs, but Todd is Poppa Bear's and that one works best for me: less bitty / more fleshed out, even more varied - similar effect to Sign Of The Times.

Paul, Sunday, 21 June 2015 04:26 (three years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

something/anything is a masterpiece huh

marcos, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:42 (two years ago) Permalink

like this is what i want from classic 70s studio rock

marcos, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:42 (two years ago) Permalink

p much

give or take a few songs on the last side

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 20 May 2016 19:44 (two years ago) Permalink

yea

marcos, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:51 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm going to his Brooklyn bowl show on Tuesday: the previous three I've seen ('91 for Nearly Human; '96 for the bullshit cocktail culture cash-in, 03-04 solo) were unsatisfying, but I have the notion looking at set lists and knowing that he's using Prairie, Kasim and Gress that I'll be pleased. Its $35 in that club, which is very good hang, and it seems like a steal for a guy who means so much to me, blah blah, see the giants while you can blah blah they might drop dead tmw blah blah.

Kinda wish I went to see the original utopia reunion or AWTATS or the Healer shows…

veronica moser, Friday, 20 May 2016 20:23 (two years ago) Permalink

I regret missing him a month ago when he came through, only $30 in a club setting, but I just couldn't commit.

nickn, Friday, 20 May 2016 21:55 (two years ago) Permalink

Buyer beware...Saw him a few years ago at Ronnie Scott's. It was on a greatest hits tour but Todd decides he's going to treat the crowd to his tribute to Robert Johnson. 2 interminable hours later I decide I shan't be spending £50 on Todd Rundgren tickets again. Even the band looked pissed...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 20 May 2016 22:13 (two years ago) Permalink

I heard about that, and the EDM shows he did a few years ago. By all accounts he's doing a career-long "best of" this time around.

nickn, Friday, 20 May 2016 22:15 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

tracklisting for his new album, dunno whether or not to be excited for this - that's a hell of a guest list

1.Come
2.I Got Your Back (featuring KK Watson with Dam Funk)
3.Chance For Us (featuring Daryl Hall with Bobby Strickland)
4.Fiction
5.Beginning Of The End (featuring John Boutte)
6.Tin Foil Hat (featuring Donald Fagen)
7.Look At Me (featuring Michael Holman)
8.Let's Do This (with Moe Berg)
9.Sleep (with Joe Walsh)
10.That Could Have Been Me (featuring Robyn)
11.Deaf Ears (featuring Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross)
12.Naked & Afraid (featuring Bettye LaVette)
13.Buy My T
14.Wouldn't You Like To Know (featuring Rebop Rundgren)
15.This Is Not A Drill (featuring Joe Satriani with Prairie Prince & Kasim Sulton)

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 14:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Rebop Rundgren! How did I never know this amazing tidbit before?!

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:04 (one year ago) Permalink

damn not too many folks could unite Bettye LaVette, Joe Satriani, Trent Reznor, and Donald Fagen

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Awesome track list

calstars, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Saw him in NYC at a benefit for his foundation last month – he was amazing. Voice was in incredible shape. I will never underestimate him again.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:26 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

just gave No World Order a shot, and....oh man. this is wild. maybe not in a good way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxU0O0_MmPU

actually not a bad album despite sounding kinda like a shitty Nitzer Ebb at times. if I try really hard I can see "Worldwide Epiphany" as being cut from the same cloth as "International Feel". I'm actually kinda surprised this album hasn't been drudged up by anyone lately, it's vaporwave as hell.

frogbs, Friday, 21 July 2017 21:51 (one year ago) Permalink

i've heard that no world order lite is better

brimstead, Friday, 21 July 2017 23:52 (one year ago) Permalink

damn, he made a ton of cheesy CGI videos in the 90s

brimstead, Friday, 21 July 2017 23:57 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

ok Todd rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5rNliIpNtk

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:43 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Guess who's coming to Sheboygan, Wisconsin tomorrow???

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

seein him on the 23rd

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 15:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

28th in Pasadena, I should go this time.

nickn, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 17:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

You should! I went with my Dad (who 15 years ago asked me, "you're on those Russian MP3 sites right? Can you get an album called A Wizard, a True Star?") and we had a pretty good time. In case you're wondering, the set list is almost all new stuff - like 80% of it was from Liars on, including what I gathered was a big chunk of his new album (which I have not heard). Even when he delves into his back catalogue it's for something like "Love Science", the Utopia single "Secret Society", or "No World Order" (!!!), it's like he's just trying to hit as many genres as possible in two hours. I think it wound up shocking the crowd a bit - this was at a classy theater in a town with a population of 50k, the audience was packed mostly with older locals...I heard a lot of comments like "well THAT was different", particularly on the heavy techno stuff and the songs where he starts rapping. But once it became clear that he wasn't going to play a Vegas-style classic rock show they got pretty into it. I mean...these songs were still pretty dang good, a lot of them felt on par with the stuff he was doing in the 70's. Anyway for the encore he finally threw the audience a bone, playing "One World", a loungey and kinda shit version of "Hello It's Me", then "Just One Victory" which brought the house down. My Dad said it was the weirdest show he's ever been to (for reference the last one he went to was The Eagles), and then said he actually loved the techno stuff and wished he'd done more. This was his third time seeing Todd, he mentioned that he saw Utopia at what must have been the height of their prog phase in like 1977, and that the audience hated it, at least until he started playing stuff like "Love of the Common Man" at the end. He also said that Todd's voice and stage presence were pretty much exactly the same as 40 years ago. Dude can still belt it out, I'm impressed. So yeah. Worth your time!

frogbs, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I like 'Something / Anything?' a lot but '...Wizard...' is one of the most annoying records I've ever heard. What's the best place to go next?

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'd try "Runt: The Ballad of Todd Rundgren", it's heavier on the ballads but probably the closest thing to the SA sound.
Hermit of Mink Hollow might be up your alley too, but be sure to skip "onomatopoeia"

brimstead, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink

if you think Wizard is annoying then probably nowhere

President Keyes, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah maybe just buy Tapestry or the first Laura Nyro album

brimstead, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

That's a fair answer - my reaction to Wizard was probably coloured by my realisation that I was listening to Year Zero for everything I hate about brightly-coloured modern US indie, whatever his virtues as a songwriter, producer etc.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

heh i had the opposite reaction, absolutely love the manic AWATS, bored by everything else he has done (especially the Utopia-era stuff)

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 December 2017 15:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

You should! I went with my Dad (who 15 years ago asked me, "you're on those Russian MP3 sites right? Can you get an album called A Wizard, a True Star?") and we had a pretty good time. In case you're wondering, the set list is almost all new stuff - like 80% of it was from Liars on, including what I gathered was a big chunk of his new album (which I have not heard). Even when he delves into his back catalogue it's for something like "Love Science", the Utopia single "Secret Society", or "No World Order" (!!!), it's like he's just trying to hit as many genres as possible in two hours. I think it wound up shocking the crowd a bit - this was at a classy theater in a town with a population of 50k, the audience was packed mostly with older locals...I heard a lot of comments like "well THAT was different", particularly on the heavy techno stuff and the songs where he starts rapping. But once it became clear that he wasn't going to play a Vegas-style classic rock show they got pretty into it. I mean...these songs were still pretty dang good, a lot of them felt on par with the stuff he was doing in the 70's. Anyway for the encore he finally threw the audience a bone, playing "One World", a loungey and kinda shit version of "Hello It's Me", then "Just One Victory" which brought the house down. My Dad said it was the weirdest show he's ever been to (for reference the last one he went to was The Eagles), and then said he actually loved the techno stuff and wished he'd done more. This was his third time seeing Todd, he mentioned that he saw Utopia at what must have been the height of their prog phase in like 1977, and that the audience hated it, at least until he started playing stuff like "Love of the Common Man" at the end. He also said that Todd's voice and stage presence were pretty much exactly the same as 40 years ago. Dude can still belt it out, I'm impressed. So yeah. Worth your time!

This is completely different than the benefit show for his foundation that I saw last year -- which was absolutely a Vegas-style classic rock show (with Utopia backing him) and actually a terrific one. I love him for this.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

hah I looked at some old setlists and apparently he was doing this all last year. bummer I couldn't take my Dad to that since those are the same songs I hear him play on the piano. he's definitely got a neat way of dealing with the whole "aging rock star" thing.

I was a bit disappointed that "Bang on the Drum All Day" wasn't played. I know it's lame as hell but that song in particular means a lot to us Wisconsinites :P

frogbs, Thursday, 14 December 2017 17:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I actually want a "run through of the hits" type show and should have gone last year.

To Matt DC: I love the first Runt album, more poppy, fewer ballads than the second one.

nickn, Thursday, 14 December 2017 17:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Just noticed this nugget of trivia in the Something/Anything liner notes: Edward James Olmos is a backup singer on "Slut".
Huh.

enochroot, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 01:33 (eight months ago) Permalink

I have a colleague who’s an enormous Todd fan – like lifelong obsessed – has seen him numerous times, met him more than once, sends me (unsolicited) articles/reviews, etc.

I tried listening to a few early albums once, and they sort of sounded like weird demos to me; never got any further...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 02:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

touring with Utopia now

been looking at the setlists and...whoa. I might have to go see this after all.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

i'm going to see 'em at the Town Hall, a venue I have 0 interest in going to. Ralph Shuckett from the 1st, none-more-prog version of the band, was sposed to stand in for Roger Powell, who doesn't wanna tour anymore. Yet Shuckett can't do it for health reasons, so apparently Rebop, the third Rundgren son who does not play minor league baseball unlike the two older sons Todd had with karen "bean" darvin, found this guy from Argentina who while evidently had never heard of Utopia and Todd, got the gig.

Todd and Willie Wilcox could not stand each other for many many years but evidently have agreed to tolerate one another.

veronica moser, Thursday, 19 April 2018 17:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

i guess willie wilcox does sound design for video games and stuff these days

brimstead, Thursday, 19 April 2018 18:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

wait Rundgren has two sons in the minors? that's pretty awesome

frogbs, Thursday, 19 April 2018 18:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah, name of rex and randy. think one or both were but no longer in the minors.

veronica moser, Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

Saw this thread, then a couple things on Twitter
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Nazz seems to have had big impact on Birmingham: “Open My Eyes” and “Under The Ice” were covered by The Move and Nazz riffs turn up in Black Sabbath songs (ie “Under The Ice” in the chorus of “Rock N Roll Doctor”). And despite everything else Rundgren was one HELL of a guitarist.

Which was a response to this:
Johnnie Johnstone
‏@tnpcollection

Original nugget, Top Todd, extremely cool vid.
Nazz - Open My Eyes
https://youtu.be/PjKx-yLOGEY

Oh yeah, and The Bangles recorded a killer "Open My Eyes" a few years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctc0oMioqPA

dow, Saturday, 21 April 2018 04:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

I've always loved the brief diversion into sunshine-pop harmonies on the bridge of "Open My Eyes", which is played up even further in the Nazz video.

"Open My Eyes" b/w "Hello It's Me" is an all-time-great first single

Lee626, Saturday, 21 April 2018 08:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

"Forget All about It" is another great slammin Nazz rocker (1st cut on the 2nd lp iirc)

brimstead, Saturday, 21 April 2018 16:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

utopia was terrific at the town hall tonight. They shoulda acknowledged the guy who came in without knowing the band, much less the keyb parts, until a month ago…

Chiefly, i would like to say the following to all the todd people on ILM… I have every TR record from '70 to '91, Ra, oops, the first Utopia album (prog opus), disco jets, have seen him now 6 times, read the book by Mike Myers brother…

yet I never heard "rock love" until tonight. Its the platonic ideal of shit that I like, by one of my favorite artists. and I never heard it before, because I did not feel like listening to every album by the band that Albert/bearsville would have preferred that he discontinue, the band that jumped every white pee-poh music trend like prog, power-pop, new wave, corp-rock, mutt lange-style shit, etc

I love it.

veronica moser, Friday, 4 May 2018 05:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/todd-rundgren/2018/kelburn-castle-largs-scotland-33ea405d.html

must admit I really hope there's a recording of this

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

There is video when you click the play button on the right, and some are live, though I don't know if it's from that show. I'm at work and can't play the sound. Some seem to be the album version.

nickn, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

he does basically this same set at every "an unpredictable night" show. it's so cringy when he does hash pipe and puffs away on his vape pen smh.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 21:49 (two months ago) Permalink


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