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I've been on a little kick lately listening to some early 00s stuff on Hydrahead that someone put on a mix for me: Harkonen - "The Grizz"; Keelhaul - "360"; Cave In - "Big Riff.

What are some other tracks from bands on this label I might like? I like that those three I mentioned are loud and noisy, but pretty catchy as well.

Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hydrahead is a really cool, albeit not very consistent, label that started in New Mexico then moved to Boston, MA and now is out of Los Angeles. In my mind the time spent in Boston produced some of the best releases. Hydrahead runs the gamut of rock sub-genres from hardcore, hard rock, metal and ambient. I have some personal bias of having a college buddy who grew up with Aaron Turner in Albuquerque and he had pretty much everything they released.

seek:
Cave In - Until Your Heart Stops
Cave In - Jupiter
Botch - We Are the Romans
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
Isis - Celestial
Daughters - Hell Songs
Jesu - Conqueror

Also if you're a packaging or art nerd there are some really amazing pieces, most designed by Aaron Turner, from their discography worth hunting down.

The Macallan 18 Year, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

"The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity"

this would be relapse

scott seward, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

(LP) hydrahead. hh666-43 / 1999

w00t

The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was wearing my Keelhaul shirt today

DJ Mencap, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://aaronbturner.blogspot.com/

The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

the vinyl is hydrahead? huh. it's still a relapse release though. i have the vinyl. the vinyl is cool!

scott seward, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bergraven?

sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 January 2008 01:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Old Man Gloom

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 January 2008 01:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

there's a series of Black Sabbath cover EPs that are pretty awesome. Neurosis does "Children of the Grave," Botch does "The Wizard," Cave In does "NIB" which might be the best of the bunch. don't think they ever came out on CD though.

one time, Friday, 11 January 2008 02:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha this is where xasthur ended up when he went all nigel hipster and betrayed his true black metal roots

(just joking! i'm happy he found a home, and he's not short of talented labelmates either!)

Just got offed, Friday, 11 January 2008 02:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

didn't they do dalek's most recent release? i'm pretty much not up on this label lately.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 11 January 2008 10:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

last thing i gor from them was a pelican dvd. i am not a pelican fan. but they've sent me some good stuff. they are putting out the audio book version of eugene robinson's fight! book. i think.

scott seward, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

They will be reissuing the Oxbow back catalog in '08. So they are OK by me. And yeah, they're doing the audiobook of Fight; it's a 2CD set. I've heard a sampler from it. It's okay.

unperson, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

pre-orders for it are up at HH

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

You need all Xasthur's Hydrahead releases. I can't stop listening to them, and I'm starting to think about wearing corpsepaint to work. A deluxe 2CD rerelease of the super-rare "Gate through bloodstained mirrors" is due at the end of the month. The first CD is in glorious mono. Hail Satan!

Soukesian, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

i got the first xasthur disc, but not the 2nd one with the demos and stuff on it! can't really review it like that. not that i was probably gonna review it anyway. anyway, the cdr reissue is great.

scott seward, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

There's one good Old Man Gloom record. Also aren't they doing a show soon?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 January 2008 21:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

A west coast of the usa tour

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 January 2008 21:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

I need some CATCHY Hydrahead songs. What are their poppiest metal moments?

Savannah Smiles, Monday, 15 September 2008 16:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

New Torche

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 15 September 2008 16:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Cave In's Jupiter album is plenty catchy in a Rush-esque way.

unperson, Monday, 15 September 2008 16:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

New Torche seconded. Probably something off the new Clouds album as well.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 15 September 2008 16:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thanks; I will check those out...
Did any of these bands ever have catchy singles?: Botch, Converge, Knut, Pelican, Cavity, Isis?

Savannah Smiles, Monday, 15 September 2008 17:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think Isis were catchiest on Oceanic which is actually their first release for Ipecac. The Converge record to start with is called Jane Doe.

Definitely a big fan of the Cave In record that Phil mentioned.

I just hosted Aaron Turner here in Portland on Saturday; put on a House of Low Culture (his solo project) show with Mamiffer (also on Hydrahead) and Trees (Crucial Blast/20 Buck Spin). Good times.

Nate Carson, Monday, 15 September 2008 17:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thanks Nate.

I just don't know where to start with this shit - I love the few songs I've heard (as mentioned in the original post), but after that it seems overwhelming. I basically need someone to say "go get these 15 songs from iTunes" and give me a list to get me started, and I'll go from there. I have the Cave In album, which I like. But I also like the heavier stuff that I mentioned at the top of the thread; that Harkonen song and the Keelhaul track. It doesn't ALL have to be Hydrahead, of course; that's just all I know of this kind of thing.

I've always liked metal, and I've always liked Dischord, and a lot of this seems to be a mixture of the two general kinds of sounds. (I realize this is a series of gross generalizations, but speaking very vaguely, this is what a lot of it seems like to me).

Can someone help spoonfeed me a list of tracks? A POX of some kind?

Savannah Smiles, Monday, 15 September 2008 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Most of Stephen Brodsky's post-Cave In stuff is on this label and sounds more like Nuggets/60s Floyd/Elephant 6 type shit than anything 'metal' or whatever

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 September 2008 17:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

search the mare ep - it's the only thing they ever did and my fave thing that i've ever heard from hydrahead.

fave 2 tracks - 'they sent you' and 'tropics'

6335, Monday, 15 September 2008 18:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hesperus by 5ive, possibly? The new Torche definitely, and the new Clouds, probably.

aldo, Monday, 15 September 2008 18:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really love that mare ep too.

my fave thing on hydrahead is probably the last discordance axis record (the inalienable dreamless). although, it sure isn't going to be much of a bang for your buck if you buy the tracks individually (it is grindcore, so most of the songs run under a minute or so). but if you have even a passing interest in grindcore, it's absolutely one of the best records in the genre and you should just get the whole damn thing!

but check the track "angel present" at least. the first two tracks are killer as well.

also, we are the romans by botch and until your heart stops by cave in are both really strong metalcore records from a time when metalcore wasn't quite so embarrassing. "we are the romans" and "juggernaut" are great tracks from each.

I'm also really into the last harvey milk album as well (life... the best game in town) love the song "decades". my fave harvey milk is still special wishes, though.

original bgm, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

this craw album is also really cool and underrated too:
http://www.discogs.com/release/1171207

probably a good fit if you're looking for something with a bit of a dischord sound too.

original bgm, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thanks a lot, you guys are great...
I bought the Mare e.p. (holy shit, it's... beautiful) and the Torche album (it's a blast). Also got the Harvey Milk ("life...") and digging that a lot on first listen (the track "Motown" is awesome). iTunes didn't have Craw, Clouds or Discordance Axis, and the only thing that came up for 5ive was this:
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/7f/200px-Five_5.jpg
Haven't checked out Botch yet.

Any opinions on Old Man Gloom, Pelican, Scissorfight, or Trees?
Thanks again...

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

OMG, Pelican(well early stuff) and Trees are awesome. Not really familiar with Scissorfight.

5ive
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:hifuxqy0ldde

(theres also a poll on 5ive in the archives i started)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

this craw album is also really cool and underrated too:
http://www.discogs.com/release/1171207

The track 'Sex' off that is super awesome.

Old Man Gloom - not as big a fan as some but have done some good stuff. Pelican - I like the first EP the best, recieved wisdom is that they have drifted inexorably into the middle of the road now but I thought the last album had a bunch of good riffs. 'American Cloven Hoof Blues' by Scissorfight (on HH sublabel Tortuga) is one of my favourite heavy rock releases of the last decade. Their other stuff is good but not as good. Trees I've not heard.

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Are you going to the Pelican/Torche show on Friday? </derail>

aldo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 15:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

naw im skint. Pelican disown the 1st ep now.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's in Bristol so I'm guessing he meant me, Kerr. I could probably blag it but don't want to be a dick to the promoters. Don't want to pay £12.50 or whatever it is basically to see Torche either, though. Pelican disown the 1st ep now - ah fuck 'em then... do you mean literally disown? I mean quality is in the eye of the beholder but it's hardly like a Pantera type deal is it

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ahh, I thought he meant the Glasgow date was friday.

Yeah as far as i know they refuse to play anything from it and I read somewhere they did say they had disowned it as they thought its was the worst stuff they had made, they genuinely do not like it!.
When it really is their best release!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Tch. Pretty sure we've had threads about bands who pull this sort of nonsense

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Aye, sorry, meant DJM. I suppose the cash in is less of a deal for me since I'm not having to factor in Cardiff travel as well, plus I'm also looking at it to possibly free up feeling the need to HAVE to see Torche at ATP in case of clashes.

Pelican have maybe got worse with each release, really. Three's stuff to like on all the records, I guess, but it's diminishing returns.

Totally aside from this, because it doesn't fit into the 'catchy' stuff we've been discussing, but I still think the Pyramids album is still the best thing HH have put out this year.

aldo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also, bigger Pelican nonsense is surely going through a repress/repackage/limited remaster process for all their previous albums when it's not like they've sold out or particularly need it.

aldo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yes, this Pyramids stuff is beautiful. Are these people ex-Mare? Similar haunting vocals...

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 23:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

mare did one additional track for a melvins tribute/cover thingy that is not on that ep - it's called 'nightgoat'. also very much worth searching out. not sure about the pyramids thing but the drummer from mare (caleb collins) has joined a band called Circle Takes the Square (according to the bio on last.fm)

6335, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 05:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

i caught torche's last song when they opened up for boris, it was pretty epic. was bummed that i missed their set, especially when boris ended up being super cheesy

6335, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 05:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Torshe were SERIOUSLY good tonight, Pelican very meh in comparison.

Maybe the highlight of the evening though was watching all of The Heads and Gonga playing air guitar to Sweet Home Alabama.

aldo, Friday, 19 September 2008 23:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Aldo where do you live? I thought you were in edinburgh

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 September 2008 23:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bristol. Haven't been in Edinburgh for over 10 years.

aldo, Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh right.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Any opinions on Old Man Gloom, Pelican, Scissorfight, or Trees?

Oh Trees are not actually on Hydra Head (though they sound like they could be). Imagine Khanate without the hooks. Yes, brutal...

Trees are on Crucial Blast (cd) and 20 Buck Spin (lp).

Nate Carson, Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

I got the lp, awesome stuff. Hydrahead are maybe selling it via distro.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Motown" from the Harvey Milk almost sounds like Weezer

HOOS em out to your friends and shit (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 20 September 2008 01:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Motown" from the Harvey Milk almost sounds like Weezer

Which is alright by me! I've been soaking all this stuff up bigtime this week. Loving Torche (this seems to be the group in this lot with legitimate crossover potential - that "Grenades" song is a total hit), Craw (which is unique in that there's a definite twisted sense of humor in there), and this Pyramids shit is crazy - beautiful ambient stuff with cheap synthesized blast beats. Just totally unique.

The Mare e.p. is definitely the highlight, though. It's perfect.

Also got the Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan and Jesu but haven't played them yet.

Thanks a lot for all the recommendations!!!

Savannah Smiles, Saturday, 20 September 2008 02:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Torshe were SERIOUSLY good tonight, Pelican very meh in comparison.

Maybe the highlight of the evening though was watching all of The Heads and Gonga playing air guitar to Sweet Home Alabama.

― aldo, Friday, September 19, 2008 11:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hee hee. That sounds cuet. Could have got off my arse and gone to Bristol tonight but didn't have any desire to leave the house really (he typed for the second time in ten minutes) but will wait to bug out to Torche at ATP

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 20 September 2008 08:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

iTunes didn't have Craw

I'm pretty sure Craw's own website has all of their records for free download (even the Hydrahead one, 'Bodies for Strontium 90').

Also, where's the love for Cattle Press? 'Hordes to Abolish the Divine' is an awesome album. Fits right in with 'We Are the Romans' and 'Until Your Heart Stops' in a '1999 was an awesome year for metal, why didn't I realise it at the time?' sorta way.

MacDara, Saturday, 20 September 2008 09:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

And yes, in my experience Torche blows everyone they play with off the stage.

HOOS em out to your friends and shit (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Botch, DEP, Isis and Pelican - I had a phase of listening to too much of this stuff to the point where it began to bore me.

Pelican have indeed plummeted.

Seems like I need to hear Torche?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm hearing Torche on Youtube now, and liking it.

Soukesian, Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pyramids seconded, really fun and weird music.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 20 September 2008 11:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dude in Torche seriously looks like Jack Black though.

aldo, Saturday, 20 September 2008 11:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also, where's the love for Cattle Press?

cattle press peaked with their first song ("celebration of wounds"). totally sludgy braindead hammering. i didn't like their hydrahead release at all.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 September 2008 11:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

You should give it another listen. There's nothing braindead about it at all: it's jammed with kickass grooves among the slowed-down-grindcore sludge.

MacDara, Saturday, 20 September 2008 13:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

uh, braindead was a compliment. seriously, i love that song, it's plodding in the best possible way. the album suffered from NOT being braindead, it just didn't do it for me. i'd give it another listen but i realized i sold it.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 September 2008 13:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

Apologies for misreading your comment, my fault entirely. But on the main point, it really is worth another shot.

MacDara, Saturday, 20 September 2008 15:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Well kids - went out and actually bought Torche's 'Neanderthal'- £12-oo from HMV.

Was it worth it?

Seriously, absolutely YES.

This is something different.

Drop D, stepped down low - but with real melody, and not just a pummelling onslaught. I'll be lazy but there's a bit of MBV in there too, for want of a better description

Excited to play this again, but the missus will hate, so save it for laters

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

torche sounds like 90s alt rock to me, muddy and directionless and halfheartedly thunderous.

adam, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sorry hipsters -'Meanderthal' is what I bought

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

and 20s alt rock is...?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

get the 1st album, its even better, the original mix version is better than the remixed one IMO so try get that.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 17:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've kind of prematurely ejaculated. Again.

Just been listening to it whilst cutting my hedge ( How HC RNR is that?)and it doesn't sound quite the same album.

Better get my slippers on now my hedge is done - crank up the (nonHash) pipe and listen to it again. Tis Satdee night after all

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink


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