Wolfgang Voigt's GAS Project: the Poll

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OptionVotes
Pop - 200012
Königsforst - 1998 9
Zauberberg - 1997 3
Gas - 1996 2
Modern 12" - 1995 0
Oktember 12" - 1999 0


Mark Clemente, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

voigt's best work, in my opinion, still some of the most striking ambient music i've ever heard. i'm not sure which one i'll pick - when i listen to gas i find myself needing to pull out all of these.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

not sure why the image isn't showing, but whatever.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

pop i guess

s1ocki, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

I think pull out Konigsforest a little more, but it's all good.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Aren't these hard to come by/horrifically expensive? I found a copy of Pop in HMV about 2 years ago and it looked like it had been there a while. Fantastic stuff but I don't feel qualified to vote as I haven't heard the others.

mmmm, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

I've been on a major Wolfgang Voigt kick lately. The GAS stuff in particular is perfect for this time of the year. As of right now I think I have to go with Zauberberg. Wish they would reissue all of these, although I did manage to get Pop and Zauberberg on CD a few years ago.

lou, Thursday, 10 January 2008 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

yea they SERIOUSLY need to reissue these. i'm surprised that voigt hasn't.

i actually downloaded all of them from kompakt's mp3 website. you can get each of them for about the price of a new cd.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

actually i'm not sure if oktember's on there.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

I picked up his brother's Sturmgesten recently hoping some of the magic would be there... I didn't find it

mmmm, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

I'm also just re-visiting Pop Ambient 2007 and getting way more into it than I ever did originally--the first half in particular.

lou, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

königsforst for me

omar little, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

Zauberberg, and not just for the title alone.

Yeah, I bought these when they came out and was surprised to discover recently how expensive/rare these are now. I'm glad to hear that they are now available via the Kompakt site because they are timeless records.

Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

timeless, yes. i love these.

sleep, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

Konigsforst, definitely. I love how parts of it are so lo-fi that they sound almost mono.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

absolutely timeless. quite addicting, too.

re: pop ambient 2007 - that gas track is one of his best, too, i think. ("nach 1912" or something like that?) it's incredible.

i might go with zauberberg, i'm not sure. it's possibly the most consistent of them.

but i think i might vote pop, it's such a weird, weird record. it's got this uneasiness to it, even in what most people think are the calming tracks. the way it shifts moods from soothing to disturbing, contemplative to restless, etc., makes it such an interesting listening experience.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

königsforst for me

-- omar little, Thursday, 10 January 2008 22:13 (1 hour ago)

am0n, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

pop just over königsforst 4 me

sleep, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

i'd be interested in hearing why voigt decided to discontinue the gas project

Mark Clemente, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

Königsforst

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

if anyone goes out and buys all of these i'd hate to see their GAS BILL!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA

s1ocki, Friday, 11 January 2008 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

oh man

i still laughed though

Mark Clemente, Friday, 11 January 2008 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

these are so good.

Konigsforst for me, altho "Oktober" is pretty amazing. By the way, I don't think it was a 12" - it was released as part of the Raster-Noton 20 to 2000" series as a 3" CD in 5" plastic.

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

my mistake - discogs had it listed as a 12", but i've never actually seen the physical release so i wouldn't know. it is pretty amazing!

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

i've only heard three of these, but based on that, Pop wins.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

probably my favorite music ever, i have to go with the s/t lp but really all of these are like 11/10

winston, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

i'm pretty sure "moderne" is still in print; i see it often enough anyway.. the other stuff is mille plateaux and i don't think they've gotten around to reissuing anything since restarting last year or whatever

must mention the tal track that opens pop ambient 2002 and closes that harvest cologne comp.. beyond gorgeous...

All the mint stuff is absolutely essential too (there needs to be a comp of it)

winston, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

oktember 12" = track one of the koningsforst cd issue + 20 to 2000 on the flip (i've never heard the 20 to 2000 cd -- so i'm assuming here)

resolved, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

here's the discogs' link, fwiw.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

ha, selling for $80. i can't believe how much gas stuff sells for.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

well, prices LISTED on discogs are often a bit higher than the real value... oktember is one of the more expensive ones. if you look at the market price history for the 2xlps, there are a bunch offered at ridiculous prices but the ones that actually sell are priced much lower (altho still quite expensive)

resolved, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

yea i think i saw one of the albums (in cd version) sell for $30 or $40 on amazon once, which is very expensive but not horribly so.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Voigt's 20 to 2000 contribution, "20 Minuten Gas im November," was released under his own name, not as Gas, and was exclusive to the series. it was not the b-side of the "Oktember" 12"

Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

I voted Pop; probably my favorite ambient album by any artist.

rockapads, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

lol

am0n, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

wow

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

you'd think they would do the the favor of shipping it.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

i'd be interested in hearing why voigt decided to discontinue the gas project

Well, he did four full-length albums of Gas material and since the sound evolves only slightly after the second one, I imagine he just got bored and wanted to do something else. Considering how many pseudonyms and different projects he's done, I'm thankful the Gas one was the most prolifice.

That said, check out the MassStab and Studio 1 series because those are pretty great as well. Similarly minimal, but with dense patterns of samples instead of washes of sound.

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

wow my gas bill joke just gets more and more prescient in hindsight. WOW

s1ocki, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

i'm surprised there weren't more votes for zauberberg

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

The first two tracks of Zauberberg back-to-back kill me. Highs not quite as high as Königsforst though. Pop is amazing but definitely its own thing. Also search All singles.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

So is there anywhere one can buy Oktember at a reasonable price? It's not on the Kompakt site. And is Modern 12" only?

toby, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

Mark- It's the third track on Zauberberg that really gets me. This album somehow manages to both creep me out and pacify me at the same time.

Also, the only way to suitably describe the last track is heavenly.

lou, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

yea zauberberg is really bizarre, isn't it? you have the first and last tracks which are completely gorgeous - yea, heavenly, the third track (which is one of my favorite Gas tracks) which kind of envelopes you in this really calm way, but all the other tracks are downright creepy.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

the last track on konigsforst always makes me think of a sunrise because it sounds like a warped/looped "william tell overture", that waking-up music they use in cartoons

am0n, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if any classical heads can trainspot what pieces he samples

am0n, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

I actually thought about e-mailing Alex Ross about Gas. He's probably pretty busy though.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

KOMPAKT.fm seems to indicate that this is just a relatively simple cd release as opposed to the fancy booklet/cd that they did for the last album.

mark e, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 09:54 (two years ago) link

the lyrics are printed on the part (on the inside) of the sleeve that holds the CD

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:03 (two years ago) link

wait, lyrics?

sleeve, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:10 (two years ago) link

just got my copy via amazon : no booklet.

mark e, Friday, 25 May 2018 17:25 (two years ago) link

Every time i see the title for this record it looks like Ranch to me, which them makes me think that Voigt named his record after a mayo-based condiment

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:25 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

I've been listening to this for a couple of days, and it sounds pretty much, like a continuation of the previous album, no? The biggest change is that there's no beatless interludes anymore, which is appreciated... And Voigt seems to have put more variation into the beats in general, the minimal hihats in one of the mid-album tracks sound really really nice, especially considering he hasn't really used them in the Gas project.

But the complaints I made above still apply to this one too: the samples are too clean with recognizable instruments, which makes the tracks sound more like remixes of modern classical music (even if the recordings he samples are of older pieces, the droneyness and atonality makes them feel modern) and less like these organic but alien soundworlds from out of nowhere. The two new albums are still enjoyable music and it's nice he's continuing the project, but I don't think they quite have the magic and oddness of the original Mille Plateaux records.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 July 2018 10:49 (two years ago) link

yeah i'm liking the beats a lot

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:12 (two years ago) link

The album (Rausch) is one big plod, w/minimal variety--dynamically and tonally

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:08 (two years ago) link

tuomas otm, tbh I haven't found anything after the original albums to be that compelling

marcos, Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:22 (two years ago) link

yeah I don’t need any more of these

sciatica, Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:41 (two years ago) link

Narkopop is up there with the earlier releases, imo. It's a different beast altogether, in its construction and crystalline fidelity, but it's really emotionally charged and resonant. Again, in my experience.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:02 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

jrtl;jwrtjrwqjkergjertgn;ert

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/gas-live-recombinant-festival-2018-opening-night-tickets-49798056327

First time Gas is playing in SF. Also it's, you know, FOUR BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:36 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

And said show I referred to there just happened. Holy heck was that great.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 05:09 (one year ago) link

I will confirm what Ned said: the performance (I attended the 9pm set) was fantastic. Probably true first time I’ve heard gas at a proper volume.

sknybrg, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 07:52 (one year ago) link

I was also at the 9pm set. What an incredible visual realization of the concept! Basically the music is inspired by a bunch of psychedelic experiences in the pine forests of Germany. Was it me or did it seem that many of the forest shots were entirely CG? Or were they just so excellently filmed and choreographed that it appeared to be the case?

octobeard, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:00 (one year ago) link

Struck me as just amazing filming and editing. Also how did I not know you were all locals.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:23 (one year ago) link

I’m such a homebody these days...but a local nonetheless

Yeah, the film was a fully immersive, psychedelic experience and I was only under the influence of a couple of beers. I’d love to have another opportunity to see the performance again and scrutinize the visuals. I was impressed how quickly I fell under the spell of the music and visuals.

sknybrg, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:38 (one year ago) link

I was the only one still reeling from Marcus Schmickler?

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:02 (one year ago) link

Yeah that Schmickler set was, how you say, intense. I had to move seats at one point!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:08 (one year ago) link

Thank goodness for quality ear plugs! And yeah I'm a local, too. Biked to and from the show! Guessing you're in the Mission, Ned.

octobeard, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:30 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

very affordable 3LP reissue of Königsforst

https://forcedexposure.com/Catalog/gas-konigsforst-3lp/KOM.370.2LP.html

Ambient Police (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:50 (one year ago) link

I recently walked through Königsforst while listening to Narkopop on headphones. Highly recommend. Needed more LSD though

octobeard, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:25 (one year ago) link

Königsforst
Narkopop
Pop
Zauberberg
Gas
Rausch

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 June 2019 04:53 (one year ago) link

also thanks for the head's up on the Königsforst reissue, sleeve! it should arrive in the mail this weekend! :)

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 June 2019 04:54 (one year ago) link

Sure, if we wanna do this...

1. Königsforst
2. Gas (the original version, not the Nah und Fern version with two tracks replaced with inferior ones)
3. Zauberberg
4. Pop
5. Rausch
6. Narkopop

Like I've said above, the two comeback albums are still nice, but they don't feel essential and magical the way the original quartet does.

Tuomas, Friday, 14 June 2019 06:28 (one year ago) link

100% agree

StanM, Friday, 14 June 2019 07:12 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

63% agree

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 07:19 (one year ago) link

I agree but maybe swap Konigforst with the s/t

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:49 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

BREAKING NEWS: #WolfgangVoigt releases brand new #GAS track as exclusive download. The track that is coming out today worldwide is called »Zeit« and is accompanied by a video clip taken out of Voigts legendary GAS live performances.

https://kompakt.fm/releases/zeit

BREAKING NEWS: #WolfgangVoigt releases brand new #GAS track as exclusive download. The track that is coming out today worldwide is called »Zeit« and is accompanied by a video clip taken out of Voigts legendary GAS live performances.https://t.co/YeHhMZoGjo pic.twitter.com/ci1xVai3dm

— KOMPAKT (@KOMPAKTREC) June 17, 2020

willem, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 11:53 (four months ago) link

Only available as MP3, not FLAC or WAV? Fuck that.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 12:24 (four months ago) link

AIFF

willem, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:33 (four months ago) link

You already did a red cover Wolfgang you dope

Evan, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:57 (four months ago) link

AIFF

I've never had any Apple products so I don't know anything about AIFFs, are they lossless?

Tuomas, Monday, 22 June 2020 06:38 (four months ago) link

yes

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 07:08 (four months ago) link

Ok, I guess these days many non-Apple players support Apple formats too, so I could give a try... Still don't understand why the Kompakt site doesn't sell any digital music in FLAC or WAV, like most stores do these days.

Tuomas, Monday, 22 June 2020 07:11 (four months ago) link

that really seems like the kind of thing you ought to write them a letter about

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 07:30 (four months ago) link

otm

aiff on music sites is an oddball one but it’s nearly certainly the format that was used all the way back to pre-1990 and is comparable to .wav, just uncompressed pcm

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 13:57 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

So I’ve found out that my newborn baby relaxes when I play Konigsforst or Pop loudly. If she’s crying beyond reason I play either those or white noise and she calms down almost instantly. I guess it makes sense since it has the same repetitiveness and sort of textures as white noise which babies love.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

Congrats on having a cool kid!

J. Sam, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

Is there a thread on ILM about which albums or music ilxors have found to relax their babies? I’d love to try some options.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

(Those are my two favorite Gas albums, so kudos to your baby on her discerning taste)

J. Sam, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:25 (one week ago) link

Hahaha thanks. I’ve played all sort of music and so far it seems those are her favorite albums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:28 (one week ago) link

definitely wonderwall

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:49 (one week ago) link

<3 to your baby, Moka!

mh, Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:58 (one week ago) link

That's great Moka, many congrats! <3

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 15 October 2020 07:18 (one week ago) link

Is there a thread on ILM about which albums or music ilxors have found to relax their babies? I’d love to try some options.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, October 14, 2020 bookmarkflaglink

You wanna know which album didn't work at all, with either of my kids? Raymond Fucking Scott's Soothing Sounds for Baby.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:13 (one week ago) link

did raymond scott ever have children? because i bet they're fucked up because of his music

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

my daughter went through a brief Pop phase, but as she got older it started to creep her out. Recently, she loves Marconi Union’s “Weightless”, which imo owes a bit to Pop stylistically.

beard papa, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:34 (one week ago) link

Thank you mh and LBI!

I had completely forgotten about that Raymond Scott album but yeah I would never play that one. Too sharp sounding, it’s hilariously wrong it’s described as soothing.

Speaking of Raymond Scott, I was listening earlier a spotify playlist called MoogTube and she did not seem to enjoy the Raymond Scott track in there (Portofino 2) which I ended up skipping but she relaxed to Chrome Country by Oneohtrix and to Isao Tomita’s Clair de Lune. The later made me particularly glad because I adore Clair de Lune in all its forms.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 October 2020 07:20 (one week ago) link

naw cute thread updates :)

nxd, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:37 (one week ago) link


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