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For those of you who have quite a few CDs, but now nearly always download:

Will you bother trying now to sell off your existing CDs?
Will you leave them as a record of 80s/90s to early 00s buying?
Will you continuing buying CDs selectively alongside downloading, for reasons of completing certain artists or genres?

paulhw, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

1. Oh, sure. I keep trying to reduce using the rule of 'if I get another CD I sell at least one back if not more.' It helps that I always get some credit at Amoeba, sometimes a surprising amount.

2. I guess? A lot of stuff that would serve as a very honest record is long since purged.

3. Yup, but via taking advantage of their nearly-flat value. Amoeba again is very good for this -- their clearance section is always stuffed with good finds amid the crud, I can pick up an armload for a song (almost literally in some cases).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

1) Nope or at least not more than I ever did.

2) Uh not exactly.

3) I don't download very much and I still buy CDs and the occassional piece of vinyl.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

am getting it down to about 150 left which i guess i'll keep on shelves for a while before just donating them. they never get played once ripped.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I picture Ned strolling into Amoeba, reciting a few bars of "Englande" and the guys behind the counter just give him a shopping cart and say "go for it."

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Selling them all seems like a daunting and infuriating task, so I'll probably keep them, but only out of laziness.

John Justen, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i've got a few boxes of old stuff in the closet that i can't bear to sell for pennies, yet i'm sick of taking them somewhere to have them cherry pick a couple good ones and refuse the rest.

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm keeping mine just in case a neutron bomb comes along and fries everyone's hard drives. (but, uh, not the cd players)

also, it's good to have cds around to loan to friends. it's easier than zipping up and uploading an entire album, and while sharing entire hard drives is in theory the best thing to do, it doesn't happen that often

i've never sold cds, so i won't be starting now.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i still buy cds.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

(a) Too much trouble.
(b) I suppose, but they serve more of a function than that.
(c) Yes.

While downloading is invariably simpler, quicker, cheaper, etc., I'm still a sucker for the tactile artifact. I like liner notes, lyrics, cover art, all that. I'll download stuff I'm curious about, but if I really like it, I'll still buy the disc.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd love to get rid of everything, but i'm just not good enough at backing shit up to trust it.

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i wouldn't really part with them unless i had one of those fancy things that lets you use your mp3s on a good stereo, but it's like i just picked u a real nice old NAD cd player for only $30 off craigslist so why bother.

plus yeah like ned said it's gonna be sweet in the next few years, lots of crewsh older stuff for dirt cheap.

although...it is weird seems like some CDs are really picking up in value on ebay, out of print stuff...

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I don't see anything that indicates that rare CDs are any less valuable then they ever were.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I am keeping my cds because I want backups in case I have hard drive failure. Even with two hard drive copies of my music, I prefer to have the backup. Also, I may want to rip at a higher bitrate later once hd prices come down.

Euler, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going to keep my CD's in case I ever need to build a fortress of solitude out of them, Jor-El stylee

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

a) no, except for ones i get sick of.
b) no
c) i download tracks and sometimes albums, but if i really like what i'm hearing i'll buy it in CD or vinyl form. artwork, liner notes, etc.

i'll never say never though, because maybe someday in the distant future i'll sell everything and have it all digitized.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm keeping my CDs.

I'm too lazy to sell and also I have a suspicion that some kind of new digital format will emerge (MP5?) that will make MP3s sound tinny and useless, and that I'll want to re-rip my CDs.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I still buy cds and vinyl. I will keep them all unless I needed the money.
I barely download now, but like always, I still try to buy what I downloaded as long as I liked it.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

im continuing! cd's are beautiful

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

1. No, never.
2. I will keep them as the art objects/media that they are.
3. Until I can buy whole albums from iTunes or Amazon as .wav files, I will continue buying essential CDs.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

A lot of good reasons to hang onto CDs in this thread. I still enjoy cases and liner notes and having a good thing around to throw my disposable income at. In a lot of ways, I also find them easier to store and maintain than digital music, where you need at least two forms of backup and need to keep an organized file/folder structure together if you're going to find stuff easily. Finally, I still can hear the difference between reasonably good-quality CDs and mp3s, and with formats, storage methods, etc. changing frequently keeping CDs around seems like less of a long-term headache.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll still buy a lot, taking advantage of the lower cost and because I like having the little cardboard boxes from Caiman in the post to look forward to after returning from work.

I keep the price stickers on my CDs, and it amazes me just how much I was paying for music in the 90s. £15 - £16 for some CDs was not unusual.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ridic

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

its like 12 bux tops for me now. unless its brand new and too good

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll continue keeping 100s of cds in a sock drawer which I occasionally pull out for a car ride. I wont sell them. But I oughta clean them all. I hate when a cd skips and I hate how I lost some of my cds even though I dont listen to any of my cds much. But I did lose Roxy Music - The Early Years and Tangerine Dream - Rubycon. I broke Thrakattak. And I can't remember what else at the moment. Kinda sucks. Kinda not.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail. If you're lucky, you'll have it backed up to another drive. But then that one could fail as you're trying to dump it to your new hard drive. Then I will point and laugh.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate that too, captain -- i'm actually making a list of CD's i have that are too scratched up/missing. i replace a few ever year

it's like i just realized how to properly take care of a cd.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Fastnbulbous accurate enough, which is why the CDs I sell back are the ones I never listen to, or have only heard once and thought, "Nice" and never went back to at all. Ergo, why keep 'em around?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I moved into a new place two months ago and never bothered taking my CDs out of their boxes. I have a few lying around that I've bought recently, but there's no real reason for me to have them out, since the majority are on my iTunes/iPod, anyway.

Back when I started to download albums, I told myself that if I really liked something I downloaded I'd buy it on CD. But then it just seemed silly to go to the trouble of buying it, only to put it on a shelf and forget about it as soon as it was out of its shrink wrap.

Now the albums I buy are the ones I simply can't find online. I don't use p2p, but I can find most major new indie releases on a couple of choice websites or through friends. So what I buy ends up being not necessarily indicative of what I'm really excited about. A lot of times this amounts to used CDs I stumble across and take a chance on.

jaymc, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail.
This is exactly right — CDs have become nothing more than backup.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

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ian, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

1) nah, I'm the kind of person who saves everything
2) ???
3) I never exclusively bought CDs, it was always a mix of vinyl, cassette (back in the day), or mp3 formats. I see no reason why this will change for me in the near future.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

1) too lazy really - and they're not worth that much anyway
2) never completely stopped buying vinyl, so it's not even an accurate record
3) I''ve bought maybe 6 cds this year and maybe 300 LPs (and some cassettes, second hand for the car)

sonofstan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, I may want to rip at a higher bitrate later once hd prices come down.

yeah i thought about that. A couple weeks ago I embarked on digitizing my collection, starting with albums I didn't like that much; I ripped ~ 30 cds @ 320 which is fine for those but my main collection I'm probably gonna want to do in flac or whatever for posterity but i haven't done the math on what i'll need for space. I got 2 500G drives on black friday and I was gonna send one back but maybe I won't. than again i've been latched to rhapsody pretty hard lately and soon even the mp3s might be ancillary to how i'm listening to music. so much up in the air.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

soon as I'm satisfied with backing up, and keeping the habit, I'm selling all my CDs. I need the space and I need the money.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i've sold all of my cds. still buy vinyl, which i also sell sometimes. while it's impractical, it retains its value better (and escalates in value far more often) and is more 'fun'. sue me

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I keep the price stickers on my CDs, and it amazes me just how much I was paying for music in the 90s. £15 - £16 for some CDs was not unusual.

We still quite frequently pay $25-$35 AUD for some CD albums in this country. And they wonder why ppl use torrents.

Trayce, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

resolved, did you just rip your CDs into FLAC format and keep them on your hard drive or something?

three handclaps, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i ripped the ones that deserved it to FLAC + mp3 (for ipod), most of them just to variable rate mp3. and then a lot i just sold without bothering.

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Will you bother trying now to sell off your existing CDs?

maybe. next year I might be compelled to "monetize" my vinyl collection.

Will you leave them as a record of 80s/90s to early 00s buying?

hate to say it but after sitting there unplayed for awhile they just take up space.

Will you continuing buying CDs selectively alongside downloading, for reasons of completing certain artists or genres?

Barely. I stream music on my computer, listen to old CDs less & less often. CDs/itunes I buy as gifts.

m coleman, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

First off, CDs are still the primary way i listen to music, and I don't download very often.

1.) I'll hang onto my CDs for a long, long time, until they rot away (none of them have). I stopped selling back CDs a few years ago, because I tend to regret it later on. I used to regularly purge my collection of stuff if I hadn't played it in awhile, but there are too many CDs that I'm kicking myself now for selling then.

Plus, it always killed me when I tried to sell stuff that I knew was of really high musical quality or that someone would love to have, and the clerk would offer a pathetic couple of bucks (usually less!) for it. Most used stores never offer very much for CDs, and now when I think about it, the best offer I've ever received (about $3 for a CD, not common at all) is just not worth it to me. I'd rather hang on to the album, sorry, then take your 50 cents.

2. I'll keep my CDs as much more than just a record of this particular time, as they have fucking music on them!!

3. I'll probably buy CDs for quite a while. As others have mentioned, there are so many good finds on used CDs right now, it's great. So much stuff that I would never expect to find in used shops. It's only going to get better over the next few years, too.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Newbury Comics usually gives about $3 per CD.

three handclaps, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

1) No - mainly because CDs are not worth much now, particularly when trying to trade them in at a record store.

2) Most of the CDs I listen to regularly have been ripped now, but I'll keep them as a backup and also because of the possibilty of ripping in higher quality formats/higher bitrates later.

3) I still buy CDs sometimes but nowhere near as often as I used to - I've gone from half a dozen a week in 2001 to a couple a month now. But if I see a box set at a cheap price I'll probably buy it.

snoball, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail. If you're lucky, you'll have it backed up to another drive. But then that one could fail as you're trying to dump it to your new hard drive. Then I will point and laugh.

I've never had a hard drive die on me ever before. Meanwhile in that time a lot of my records and CDs got damaged in a flood. Life's funneee.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder how homeowner's insurance would cover a hard drive filled with burned FLACs. Are you just screwed or could you reasonably claim the full value of replacing them on iTunes or whatever?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i sold them on amazon btw, the run of the mill ones at least. you get a lot more money that way if you're prepared to go to spend an hour going packing/going to the post office every few days.

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post
but when your hd dies it's all gone. and the probability is much higher than all your cds being destroyed at once...

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

word. i'm still reeling from getting over £30 for a tatty Sasha & Digweed CD. xp

what is with you hd-failure doomsayers? you have to fuck a hd up pretty bad before the data on it is completely irretrievable.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I'm just curious from an insurance standpoint. Like what if someone broke into your house and stole your HD. Can you only claim the HD or could you reasonably claim the cost of replacing the MP3s (I just talked to my boss-a former underwriter--and he's gonna find out for me)?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

once i had a hd which seemed perfectly ok. but suddenly it crashed. it had been formatted a couple of megabytes too high. when i reached the limit it was all over.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Generally I don't give a shit what format music is in. Digital is most convenient, but I'll take CDs, vinyl, cassette, 8-track, open reel, and shellac. If there were many wire recordings, I'd get a player for that too.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Thursday, 24 February 2022 17:45 (five months ago) link

Generally I don't give a shit what format music is in.

Exactly. Also, formats that are cheap/affordable and available, which is why i've felt soured on buying vinyl recently and been back to buying used CDs and, to my surprise, even new cassettes (Angel Bat Dawid and Poison Ruïn). I'm old enough to have been buying new records at KMart or wherever as a child, and then also bought tapes and then CDs as I had players for them. But in the late 80s/early 90s when I found thrift stores and used record stores (as opposed to the mall's Sam Goody), vinyl was cheap and plentiful. And digging for it was exciting, in being able to find known things and spend little money to take a chance on unknown things. The last few years, it has felt rare to dig and find a deal. More often than not I'm thinking "do I want to drop $25/$40 on some used record anymore?" And I've missed so many new records by not jumping on an order the day it's announced. Or it's a shitty pressing. My teenager is now into thrift stores, and while there has been zilch in terms of anything worth buying on vinyl I've been able to find great CDs for $1. I'm continuing with everything I guess. I'll still buy new records as I can (direct or through bandcamp) to support the artists though.

city worker, Thursday, 24 February 2022 18:37 (five months ago) link

I think it's neat to enjoy music in the format in which it was most widely consumed at the time. highway 61 revisited sounds good on CD but sounds great on vinyl! says someone who was born in the 80s. that's sort of been my philosophy - buy music from 80s and before on vinyl if you can find it, 90s onward on CD. I grew up with Substance on CD but the BLT 12" sounds absolutely fantastic on my system!

Cassettes were the best-selling format in the '80s and in some ways were a privileged one (they had extended versions and extra tracks before CDs did).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 24 February 2022 18:52 (five months ago) link

yes, from 1988 to 1990 I bought all the new Fall albums on cassette because they had more tracks

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Thursday, 24 February 2022 19:04 (five months ago) link

Humans can perceive tones down to around 16 Hz. 20 Hz is just a nice round number to pair with 20 kHz.

This may be more a question for "Not continuing with CDs" – but why is it that when streaming from Amazon Music through my new Sonos speaker, "Ultra HD" (24-bit) FLAC sounds so much better than "HD" (16-bit)? In other words, 16-bit may be "CD-quality," but those tracks definitely do not sound as good as CDs to my ears (granted, I have not hooked up an actual CD player to the speaker, to see how CDs sound when played through it).

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Thursday, 24 February 2022 19:59 (five months ago) link

likely intentional to upsell you the "UHD" versions but who knows, could be any number of variables:

are they even derived from the same master? if so, are they volume matched?

can you download the raw "UHD" and "HD" tracks to your PC to properly ABX them?
if you can, can you ABX them after volume-matching and up-converting the 16-bit one to 24-bit?
it you still can, what about only the "UHD" track against a 24 -> 16 -> 24-bit version of itself?

chihuahuau, Thursday, 24 February 2022 21:34 (five months ago) link

Well, these are different albums altogether... newer releases tend to be UHD, maybe they are taken from a more "direct" source/master than legacy (HD) albums? They all just sound noticeably better, brighter, clearer, etc.

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Thursday, 24 February 2022 21:40 (five months ago) link

(There's no "upsell" involved, fwiw... Amazon Music Unlimited includes both HD & UHD)

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Thursday, 24 February 2022 21:42 (five months ago) link

Cassettes were the best-selling format in the '80s and in some ways were a privileged one (they had extended versions and extra tracks before CDs did).

― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:52 PM (four hours ago)

fair enough! maybe I'd say instead, the most widely consumed format for audiophilic consumption :) since I'm guessing a large part of the popularity of cassettes was driven by introduction of the walkman / it being the first truly portable format...

, Thursday, 24 February 2022 23:08 (five months ago) link

I just sniped a Dr. John CD, first time I’ve done that in ages. Got it for $1.05, so shipping was triple.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 25 February 2022 05:35 (five months ago) link

xxxp to myself – now listening to a brand-new (just released) r&b track that's only "HD" quality, and it sounds similarly not-great to the older HD ones. So there may be something more to it than newness/source.

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:40 (five months ago) link

without full disclosure of the technical specs used for the streaming audio, it's all just speculation. maybe they rip the originals at a higher bitrate for the UHD, who knows.

that being said, a separate thread for streaming audio quality actually seems like a good idea? I would follow even tho my interest is minimal.

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:58 (five months ago) link

Yeah - there was a little of that in the Continuing with Spotify thread (ppl wondering why Qobuz sounds “better” than others, etc.)

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Friday, 25 February 2022 22:33 (five months ago) link

Qobuz is one of the streaming services that used to (probably still does?) sell watermarked Universal tracks

rest assured, the watermarks are audible (trivially ABX-able) because they're placed well within the most sensitive frequencies to prevent removal without totally ruining the music, of course

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=89818.0
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=111198.msg917267#msg917267
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=117462.0

chihuahuau, Friday, 25 February 2022 23:02 (five months ago) link

thank you for that, yes ilx poster Jon Not Jon has posted extensively about those UMS watermarks, I forget exactly where

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Friday, 25 February 2022 23:11 (five months ago) link

Yeah I’m still pissed about that but haven’t posted about it for awhile.

As far as I could determine, there was nowhere in the digital marketplace one could buy non-watermarked UMG files - I even bought lossless files from UMGs own web store which were audibly affected.

Also I have not checked in a couple of years but there never seemed to be any re-uploading/replacement of the defaced UMG material after they stopped the practice in (?2014?)… new things released to digital no longer had the issue but the vast body of UMG stuff already released just stayed that way. At least as of a couple years ago.

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 26 February 2022 21:58 (five months ago) link

This may be more a question for "Not continuing with CDs" – but why is it that when streaming from Amazon Music through my new Sonos speaker, "Ultra HD" (24-bit) FLAC sounds so much better than "HD" (16-bit)? In other words, 16-bit may be "CD-quality," but those tracks definitely do not sound as good as CDs to my ears (granted, I have not hooked up an actual CD player to the speaker, to see how CDs sound when played through it).

Different mastering and possibly mixing techniques. If the audience is expected to play the music on better equipment, then they can master it with a wider frequency profile, use more or less compression, and so on. People who consume "HD" audio can be expected to be upscale consumers, not playing the music on shitty earbuds. This means that they don't have to shovel important content into the earbud-friendly frequency range for a 16/44.1 master, and it's gonna sound better on a good stereo.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 27 February 2022 20:01 (five months ago) link

Such techniques apply just as much to 16/44.1 audio as they do to 24/96 or whatever, so it's not an intrinsic quality of the format.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 27 February 2022 20:03 (five months ago) link

If you want a valid comparison, use an audio editor to convert HD audio to CD-quality digital audio and compare. If you have a friend who can administer an ABX test, do that too.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 27 February 2022 20:06 (five months ago) link

It's also possible that the Sonos applies its own EQ curve to HD audio, so I cannot account for that possibility.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 27 February 2022 20:09 (five months ago) link

Finally reconnected my (secondhand) higher end DAC into the hifi signal chain, listening to some of Autechre’s NTS Sessions and it sounds so good I am just grinning to myself like an idiot

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 13 March 2022 05:46 (four months ago) link

Not sure if this is the best place to post this but I'm having trouble burning FLACs downloaded from Bandcamp to CD (using K3b on Linux). The burn process completes fine and the CD will play but the tracks are silent!

I've just made a comp with a mix of Bandcamp files plus files procured elsewehere and the latter play fine. Very weird. If anyone has any ideas, appreciated. As far as I know they're not high res files.

millmeister, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:34 (four months ago) link

Not sure if this is essential, but I always convert FLACs to WAVs prior to burning them to CD.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:40 (four months ago) link

Good suggestion thanks. I'll give it a try.

millmeister, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:45 (four months ago) link

...and then burn it as an audio CD, not a data CD.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:45 (four months ago) link

Would imagine the burning software does that routinely anyway but there could be something a little "off" about the FLAC headers which means they don't get unpacked properly.

Here's an old forum thread about the same problem:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=225063

Unpacking to WAV first might be the way to go, as annoying as that extra step is.

xxp

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:51 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I’ve had problems with burns having glitchy spots when I burn them without converting to WAV first.

spastic heritage, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 16:18 (four months ago) link

I always convert first, otherwise it's just putting more work on the computer during the burning process (converting on the fly) that increases the likelihood of burning any errors.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 17:32 (four months ago) link

Thanks all, that worked. Never occurred to me to convert a lossless file. Convoluted but worth it.
Michael J - thanks for the link. Glad to hear I'm not the only one.

millmeister, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 17:44 (four months ago) link

Bandcamp's great for allowing multiple downloads. I've replaced .flac downloads with .wav, and pulled .mp3s for the car, off the same purchases.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:52 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

CD news - based on Discogs trends:

https://blog.discogs.com/en/cd-trend-popularity-sales-2022/

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 10:20 (three weeks ago) link

Lol so literally just an ad for Marantz

zacata, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 13:43 (three weeks ago) link

Listening to Siamese Dream in the car today, I realized that I’ve been throwing this particular CD around for 29 years – in and out of dorm rooms, apartments, boxes, bags, CD racks, hot cars – and I can still just slap it in a player, it sounds as good as ever, it’s as “compact” as ever, perfect-y sound forever (or long enough). Good format!

“Lawman,” Slick (Grunt) (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 22:30 (three weeks ago) link

I imagine the popularity of Discogs has increased in that period... really meaningless without vinyl stats to compare with?

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 22:49 (three weeks ago) link

yaaa literally an ad, only stated at the bottom. Laaame

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 22:51 (three weeks ago) link

Siamese Dream is definitely an outstanding sounding CD

brimstead, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 23:21 (three weeks ago) link

It sounds so good! I was wondering if I should check out the 2011 remaster at some point, but it's hard to imagine it sounding better enough to be worth it...

“Lawman,” Slick (Grunt) (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 23:32 (three weeks ago) link

Nah, I'd stick with the original CD. The 2011 remaster squeezes the dynamics a bit. Not terribly so, but it doesn't improve things either.

birdistheword, Thursday, 21 July 2022 00:11 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

can anyone recommend a place to buy digital major label catalogue albums that isn't amazon.com?

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Sunday, 7 August 2022 16:29 (three days ago) link

so i wanted to hear shadows and light and it's basically the same price for a used cd+postage as it is on itunes/amazon/etc. i'm not complaining, it's just ... big sigh, i don't want the cd but i want to be able to hear the album as i please and not give my money to itunes/amazon.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Sunday, 7 August 2022 16:43 (three days ago) link

Qobuz lets you buy downloads too. You can check first if an album
Is for sale there.

Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 7 August 2022 16:50 (three days ago) link

Poster ufo steered me toward a place called 7digital in another thread - in the context of major-label releases that aren’t on CD (“7digital is where you want to go to buy mp3s from artists that aren't on bandcamp”).

Disarm u with a SMiLE (morrisp), Sunday, 7 August 2022 17:13 (three days ago) link

i think the best way to do it is by going to joni's site. you can click on the amazon link from there in order to make here a little commission in addition to whatever else.

better still, you could get the files on slsk and put the money you save towards a t-shirt on her web store

budo jeru, Sunday, 7 August 2022 17:16 (three days ago) link

make her*

budo jeru, Sunday, 7 August 2022 17:17 (three days ago) link

i've had success with qobuz. they don't sell mp3s, though, if that's what you're looking for. https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/shadows-and-light-joni-mitchell/0603497922789

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 7 August 2022 17:59 (three days ago) link

Try Dearborn music.net. I'm not sure how it works but in addition to a good stock of physical releases they seemingly offer mp3 downloads of everything.the digital content comes via something called Broadtime Tuneportals. Dearborn Music is a legit business so I assume these downloads are also legit. Btw they also seem to have a cheap DVD of shadows and light. Caveat their search is not the best.

bryan, Sunday, 7 August 2022 18:40 (three days ago) link

thanks all — got it sorted!

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Sunday, 7 August 2022 19:38 (three days ago) link

how did you like shadows and light? used to own the album, remember it as uneven but with some highlights

corrs unplugged, Monday, 8 August 2022 10:22 (two days ago) link

oh, i've always loved it - just never had a proper copy. hejira and mingus have always been my favorite joni so i've just been youtubeing it the past year or so. it's `fusion joni`, but i don't mind the solos - always a pleasure to hear pat metheny and jaco, in any case! and plus, it has an ace meditation on "amelia."

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Monday, 8 August 2022 13:25 (two days ago) link

nice, I'll revisit it

listening to the Amelia now, incredible

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 07:40 (yesterday) link


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