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For those of you who have quite a few CDs, but now nearly always download:

Will you bother trying now to sell off your existing CDs?
Will you leave them as a record of 80s/90s to early 00s buying?
Will you continuing buying CDs selectively alongside downloading, for reasons of completing certain artists or genres?

paulhw, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Oh, sure. I keep trying to reduce using the rule of 'if I get another CD I sell at least one back if not more.' It helps that I always get some credit at Amoeba, sometimes a surprising amount.

2. I guess? A lot of stuff that would serve as a very honest record is long since purged.

3. Yup, but via taking advantage of their nearly-flat value. Amoeba again is very good for this -- their clearance section is always stuffed with good finds amid the crud, I can pick up an armload for a song (almost literally in some cases).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

1) Nope or at least not more than I ever did.

2) Uh not exactly.

3) I don't download very much and I still buy CDs and the occassional piece of vinyl.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

am getting it down to about 150 left which i guess i'll keep on shelves for a while before just donating them. they never get played once ripped.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I picture Ned strolling into Amoeba, reciting a few bars of "Englande" and the guys behind the counter just give him a shopping cart and say "go for it."

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Selling them all seems like a daunting and infuriating task, so I'll probably keep them, but only out of laziness.

John Justen, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i've got a few boxes of old stuff in the closet that i can't bear to sell for pennies, yet i'm sick of taking them somewhere to have them cherry pick a couple good ones and refuse the rest.

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm keeping mine just in case a neutron bomb comes along and fries everyone's hard drives. (but, uh, not the cd players)

also, it's good to have cds around to loan to friends. it's easier than zipping up and uploading an entire album, and while sharing entire hard drives is in theory the best thing to do, it doesn't happen that often

i've never sold cds, so i won't be starting now.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i still buy cds.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

(a) Too much trouble.
(b) I suppose, but they serve more of a function than that.
(c) Yes.

While downloading is invariably simpler, quicker, cheaper, etc., I'm still a sucker for the tactile artifact. I like liner notes, lyrics, cover art, all that. I'll download stuff I'm curious about, but if I really like it, I'll still buy the disc.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd love to get rid of everything, but i'm just not good enough at backing shit up to trust it.

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i wouldn't really part with them unless i had one of those fancy things that lets you use your mp3s on a good stereo, but it's like i just picked u a real nice old NAD cd player for only $30 off craigslist so why bother.

plus yeah like ned said it's gonna be sweet in the next few years, lots of crewsh older stuff for dirt cheap.

although...it is weird seems like some CDs are really picking up in value on ebay, out of print stuff...

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I don't see anything that indicates that rare CDs are any less valuable then they ever were.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I am keeping my cds because I want backups in case I have hard drive failure. Even with two hard drive copies of my music, I prefer to have the backup. Also, I may want to rip at a higher bitrate later once hd prices come down.

Euler, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm going to keep my CD's in case I ever need to build a fortress of solitude out of them, Jor-El stylee

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

a) no, except for ones i get sick of.
b) no
c) i download tracks and sometimes albums, but if i really like what i'm hearing i'll buy it in CD or vinyl form. artwork, liner notes, etc.

i'll never say never though, because maybe someday in the distant future i'll sell everything and have it all digitized.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm keeping my CDs.

I'm too lazy to sell and also I have a suspicion that some kind of new digital format will emerge (MP5?) that will make MP3s sound tinny and useless, and that I'll want to re-rip my CDs.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I still buy cds and vinyl. I will keep them all unless I needed the money.
I barely download now, but like always, I still try to buy what I downloaded as long as I liked it.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

im continuing! cd's are beautiful

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

1. No, never.
2. I will keep them as the art objects/media that they are.
3. Until I can buy whole albums from iTunes or Amazon as .wav files, I will continue buying essential CDs.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of good reasons to hang onto CDs in this thread. I still enjoy cases and liner notes and having a good thing around to throw my disposable income at. In a lot of ways, I also find them easier to store and maintain than digital music, where you need at least two forms of backup and need to keep an organized file/folder structure together if you're going to find stuff easily. Finally, I still can hear the difference between reasonably good-quality CDs and mp3s, and with formats, storage methods, etc. changing frequently keeping CDs around seems like less of a long-term headache.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll still buy a lot, taking advantage of the lower cost and because I like having the little cardboard boxes from Caiman in the post to look forward to after returning from work.

I keep the price stickers on my CDs, and it amazes me just how much I was paying for music in the 90s. £15 - £16 for some CDs was not unusual.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

ridic

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

its like 12 bux tops for me now. unless its brand new and too good

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll continue keeping 100s of cds in a sock drawer which I occasionally pull out for a car ride. I wont sell them. But I oughta clean them all. I hate when a cd skips and I hate how I lost some of my cds even though I dont listen to any of my cds much. But I did lose Roxy Music - The Early Years and Tangerine Dream - Rubycon. I broke Thrakattak. And I can't remember what else at the moment. Kinda sucks. Kinda not.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail. If you're lucky, you'll have it backed up to another drive. But then that one could fail as you're trying to dump it to your new hard drive. Then I will point and laugh.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate that too, captain -- i'm actually making a list of CD's i have that are too scratched up/missing. i replace a few ever year

it's like i just realized how to properly take care of a cd.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Fastnbulbous accurate enough, which is why the CDs I sell back are the ones I never listen to, or have only heard once and thought, "Nice" and never went back to at all. Ergo, why keep 'em around?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I moved into a new place two months ago and never bothered taking my CDs out of their boxes. I have a few lying around that I've bought recently, but there's no real reason for me to have them out, since the majority are on my iTunes/iPod, anyway.

Back when I started to download albums, I told myself that if I really liked something I downloaded I'd buy it on CD. But then it just seemed silly to go to the trouble of buying it, only to put it on a shelf and forget about it as soon as it was out of its shrink wrap.

Now the albums I buy are the ones I simply can't find online. I don't use p2p, but I can find most major new indie releases on a couple of choice websites or through friends. So what I buy ends up being not necessarily indicative of what I'm really excited about. A lot of times this amounts to used CDs I stumble across and take a chance on.

jaymc, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail.
This is exactly right — CDs have become nothing more than backup.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

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ian, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

1) nah, I'm the kind of person who saves everything
2) ???
3) I never exclusively bought CDs, it was always a mix of vinyl, cassette (back in the day), or mp3 formats. I see no reason why this will change for me in the near future.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

1) too lazy really - and they're not worth that much anyway
2) never completely stopped buying vinyl, so it's not even an accurate record
3) I''ve bought maybe 6 cds this year and maybe 300 LPs (and some cassettes, second hand for the car)

sonofstan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, I may want to rip at a higher bitrate later once hd prices come down.

yeah i thought about that. A couple weeks ago I embarked on digitizing my collection, starting with albums I didn't like that much; I ripped ~ 30 cds @ 320 which is fine for those but my main collection I'm probably gonna want to do in flac or whatever for posterity but i haven't done the math on what i'll need for space. I got 2 500G drives on black friday and I was gonna send one back but maybe I won't. than again i've been latched to rhapsody pretty hard lately and soon even the mp3s might be ancillary to how i'm listening to music. so much up in the air.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

soon as I'm satisfied with backing up, and keeping the habit, I'm selling all my CDs. I need the space and I need the money.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i've sold all of my cds. still buy vinyl, which i also sell sometimes. while it's impractical, it retains its value better (and escalates in value far more often) and is more 'fun'. sue me

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I keep the price stickers on my CDs, and it amazes me just how much I was paying for music in the 90s. £15 - £16 for some CDs was not unusual.

We still quite frequently pay $25-$35 AUD for some CD albums in this country. And they wonder why ppl use torrents.

Trayce, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

resolved, did you just rip your CDs into FLAC format and keep them on your hard drive or something?

three handclaps, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i ripped the ones that deserved it to FLAC + mp3 (for ipod), most of them just to variable rate mp3. and then a lot i just sold without bothering.

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Will you bother trying now to sell off your existing CDs?

maybe. next year I might be compelled to "monetize" my vinyl collection.

Will you leave them as a record of 80s/90s to early 00s buying?

hate to say it but after sitting there unplayed for awhile they just take up space.

Will you continuing buying CDs selectively alongside downloading, for reasons of completing certain artists or genres?

Barely. I stream music on my computer, listen to old CDs less & less often. CDs/itunes I buy as gifts.

m coleman, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

First off, CDs are still the primary way i listen to music, and I don't download very often.

1.) I'll hang onto my CDs for a long, long time, until they rot away (none of them have). I stopped selling back CDs a few years ago, because I tend to regret it later on. I used to regularly purge my collection of stuff if I hadn't played it in awhile, but there are too many CDs that I'm kicking myself now for selling then.

Plus, it always killed me when I tried to sell stuff that I knew was of really high musical quality or that someone would love to have, and the clerk would offer a pathetic couple of bucks (usually less!) for it. Most used stores never offer very much for CDs, and now when I think about it, the best offer I've ever received (about $3 for a CD, not common at all) is just not worth it to me. I'd rather hang on to the album, sorry, then take your 50 cents.

2. I'll keep my CDs as much more than just a record of this particular time, as they have fucking music on them!!

3. I'll probably buy CDs for quite a while. As others have mentioned, there are so many good finds on used CDs right now, it's great. So much stuff that I would never expect to find in used shops. It's only going to get better over the next few years, too.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Newbury Comics usually gives about $3 per CD.

three handclaps, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

1) No - mainly because CDs are not worth much now, particularly when trying to trade them in at a record store.

2) Most of the CDs I listen to regularly have been ripped now, but I'll keep them as a backup and also because of the possibilty of ripping in higher quality formats/higher bitrates later.

3) I still buy CDs sometimes but nowhere near as often as I used to - I've gone from half a dozen a week in 2001 to a couple a month now. But if I see a box set at a cheap price I'll probably buy it.

snoball, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail. If you're lucky, you'll have it backed up to another drive. But then that one could fail as you're trying to dump it to your new hard drive. Then I will point and laugh.

I've never had a hard drive die on me ever before. Meanwhile in that time a lot of my records and CDs got damaged in a flood. Life's funneee.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder how homeowner's insurance would cover a hard drive filled with burned FLACs. Are you just screwed or could you reasonably claim the full value of replacing them on iTunes or whatever?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i sold them on amazon btw, the run of the mill ones at least. you get a lot more money that way if you're prepared to go to spend an hour going packing/going to the post office every few days.

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post
but when your hd dies it's all gone. and the probability is much higher than all your cds being destroyed at once...

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

word. i'm still reeling from getting over £30 for a tatty Sasha & Digweed CD. xp

what is with you hd-failure doomsayers? you have to fuck a hd up pretty bad before the data on it is completely irretrievable.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I'm just curious from an insurance standpoint. Like what if someone broke into your house and stole your HD. Can you only claim the HD or could you reasonably claim the cost of replacing the MP3s (I just talked to my boss-a former underwriter--and he's gonna find out for me)?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

once i had a hd which seemed perfectly ok. but suddenly it crashed. it had been formatted a couple of megabytes too high. when i reached the limit it was all over.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Crosley jumps in.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 November 2021 20:44 (two weeks ago) link

Just buy an SFF computer case with a 5-1/4" drive bay, an LG CD-ROM drive for $25, and a cheap ITX motherboard that has digital out. Slap Linux on it, and send the digital out to a nice DAC and you'll have a comparable and far cheaper CD player than an Arcam or a Naim.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 15 November 2021 20:47 (two weeks ago) link

f. hazel I would literally pay you to make that, my ilxmail works fwiw

Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Monday, 15 November 2021 20:56 (two weeks ago) link

i feel the reduced availability of optical drives is going to be (already is?) a factor in the inevitable (?) CD revival

a nice functioning 1980s silverface CD player hits right in the nostalgia zone aesthetics-wise, becomes a treasured flea market score rather than e-waste landfill

the last few times I've gone op/charity/thrift shopping there have been some suspiciously young men flicking through the CDs and ignoring the vinyl completely

plus of course there's definitely much better value/hitrate to he had in the used CDs

not to mention that (good) CDs sound really really good

my silver disc spinners of choice for the last 5-6 years have been old Denon universal players - D2910 - D2930 - D3910 - really good sound, play SACD and HDCD and DVD-A - nice models in their day that can be had for not much and also do a great job with DVDs!

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:49 (two weeks ago) link

NAD
Yamaha
Marantz
Cambridge Audio
Rotel

all still make CD players

plus any DVD player can serve as a CD player

I don't think they are on the brink of extinction by any means

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:53 (two weeks ago) link

I've long wanted a Technics 5 disc changer with spiral play feature (plays the first track of each CD, them moves on to track two, etc.) There's a nice one now on Craigslist for $50. I absolutely don't need it, but...

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:03 (two weeks ago) link

looks like my beloved onkyo cs-265 is awol now. glad i got another one before the panny, my 3rd. the first got stolen, the second suffered a horrible accident involving a glass of water in a vegas motel.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:05 (two weeks ago) link

5 CD changers are all over Craigslist

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:48 (two weeks ago) link

Never heard of spiral play that's wild

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:48 (two weeks ago) link

I still get a little wistful thinking about the Sony 200 and 300 CD changers I had in the late 90s and early 2000s. I have roughly 9k CDs, but don't own a CD player (just a little USB CD-R I use to rip new CDs).

That said, a 1TB microSD card in a phone with a nice DAC with all 9k of those albums on it makes it hard to get *too* wistful...

Soundslike, Monday, 15 November 2021 23:30 (two weeks ago) link

koogs many of the current minimal bluray players with no display and 2 buttons, like yours, are multi-region in nature (all region DVD, blu-ray region is switchable from the menu) which might be useful. My local retail chain blew their stock out for $30 apiece so I bought 3 in prep for the optical drive famine ahead. Mind you, 4K players are still being pushed and have audio (generally only digital tho).
If you can get something to do optical or coax digital out, there are many USB-powered ultra minimal $10 boxes on eBay which will DAC that to stereo. Ironically the cheapness means the circuits are very simple and sound pretty good!

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 15 November 2021 23:31 (two weeks ago) link

also! heat is the enemy of optical semiconductors so if you have a component system, make sure the amp is always at the top of the pile!

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 15 November 2021 23:32 (two weeks ago) link

I'm thinking about getting one of those top loading CMT-EX bookshelf systems and using it as a transport, anticipating the joy of watching the disc spin (though I'm guessing it'll have maybe a year of life left in it before something goes wrong). Simple pleasures.

Following up to say I got one of these and six weeks later it's still fine! So happy with it I bought a 3" CD that came with an adaptor ring just so I could play those in it. Only problems with it are 1) some discs make noise in the player, 2) the display is hard to read from more than a few feet away, and 3) it has trouble with some scratched discs that other players do fine with (case in point: Autechre's Untilted, where I woke up with "Sublimit" on thinking "I know this song gets more weird and fragmentary as it goes, but I don't remember it being THIS long, repetitive and fucked up...." I probably left it playing, half-awake, for half an hour before I realized it was skipping around near the five-minute mark the whole time).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:05 (two weeks ago) link

Gerald Mc-B-B and others with the sleeves: what did you do with all the jewel cases?

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:06 (two weeks ago) link

If you have polystyrene recycling in your area, you could recycle your jewel cases, but better still, I'd give them to someone who'd reuse them. (Hell, I always need jewel cases.)

If you have a library, Goodwill or something like Housing Works Cafe in NYC that sells or loans CD's and uses jewel cases, it may be worth asking if they'll take them and use them to replace any broken ones.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:38 (two weeks ago) link

there was a major semiconductor plant in Japan that burned down last year, I’ve heard new CD players etc were hard to get as a result

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:41 (two weeks ago) link

(my new player is dvd multi region but single region for br - and i had to pay extra for that, but only a dozen or so quid. double what i paid would get me full multi region blu but i don't have any foreign brs)

I've had the same Technics cd player since the 90s. would like a NAD to go with my amp but i don't use it enough to justify.

oh, thinking about it, the new dvd player was also missing any kind of line out for audio, only had a single hdmi port, something else i thought was a backwards step

koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:12 (two weeks ago) link

Gerald Mc-B-B and others with the sleeves: what did you do with all the jewel cases?

― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 11:06 AM (three hours ago)

It certainly sucks that jewel cases are that hard plastic which isn't recyclable. But that shouldn't stop one getting rid of them (it should just stop artists & labels from using them anymore, come on!)

For new CDs and decent quality ones, I haul them down to my local second-hand record store and donate them to the cause - they can spend a bit less on replacement cases.
For the cracked and scuffed and sticker-smirched ones, I throw them in the rubbish, sadly.

The spacesavingsleeves are great and I've had a lot of them now for many years and they remain in good condition, not sticking to each other or the CDs or anything.
They are a bit inconsistent in their design though, in terms of the gap between the sides and suchlike, so some can be a challenge to fold the back under-tray art into.
That's the only complaint though. I have a huge collection, and other than jewel cases with printing on them, or the occasional coloured jewel case, everything else is now shrunk down into those sleeves.
It's the only way I can remotely fit onto my shelves!

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raven, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 04:17 (two weeks ago) link

Wow, that's a sight to behold!

I'm going to put some bags of jewel cases on the curb and see if they're adopted. If not, I'll call some of my local stores to see if they want them. I've already asked a couple of libraries who weren't interested. I didn't know they weren't recyclable!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 04:29 (two weeks ago) link

some fine fine Aussie classics and obscurities I spy there Raven

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 05:07 (two weeks ago) link

Oh now that's the stuff we want to catch the eye, matttkkkk!

So yeah that Machine Translations near the edge of one of the shelves has a very Happy red jewel case, so it gets to be special.
(My partner bought the recent vinyl reissue, which is quite pretty but I think she found the pressing disappointingly quiet? Vinyl, it's risky!)

raven, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 07:01 (two weeks ago) link

lolol I was scrolling past those pics thinking "wow this person has an almost raven-level shelf situation"

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 07:05 (two weeks ago) link

raven I’m here for the HTRK too, but it was The Mark of Cain which raised an eyebrow!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 07:38 (two weeks ago) link

Ohhh I thought it may have been Mark of Cain in the bottom corner there. I listen to them surprisingly often.

raven, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 10:42 (two weeks ago) link

lolol I was scrolling past those pics thinking "wow this person has an almost raven-level shelf situation"

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 6:05 PM (three hours ago)

Haha hello Kit! Come back to Oz and you can stay upstairs from the CDs!

raven, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 10:43 (two weeks ago) link

Oh look, Dropbox has renamed those files or something? Shouldn't have entrused the image embeds to a faceless corporation.

This thread should've been called "CDs: C/D?"

raven, Thursday, 18 November 2021 11:51 (two weeks ago) link

i like the title in that obviously there's a lot C about them but at what point does the D-ness overwhelm it for you? this is a space for those questioning.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 18 November 2021 13:33 (two weeks ago) link

f. hazel I would literally pay you to make that, my ilxmail works fwiw

sleeve, I actually spent the last couple days looking into Raspberry Pi-based standalone CD players with dedicated controls and a little LCD display. There are nice yet inexpensive DACs available for Pis with a variety of audio outs...

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:34 (two weeks ago) link

a combo Pi CD player with optical and USB inputs for its DAC would be so sweet

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

i like the title in that obviously there's a lot C about them but at what point does the D-ness overwhelm it for you? this is a space for those questioning.


It’s all about the mastering for me. A lot of the earliest CDs sounded brittle and clinical. From the late 90s until recently almost everything from a major label was brickwalled. There was a sweet spot in the early 90s where CDs generally sounded fucking amazing - hear Steve Earle’s “Train A-Comin’” or Dan Lanois’ “For the Beauty of Wynona” for CDs that I can’t possibly imagine sounding better on vinyl.

And then there’s the value ratio. I’d like to have everything on vinyl, but if I can pay $1-5 for a CD for a record that costs $50 or more? Well…. No contest.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 18 November 2021 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

> Raspberry Pi-based standalone CD players with dedicated controls and a little LCD display

what does that get you above, say:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Denon-DCD50SP-Compact-CD-Player/157122758

(and i wonder if you could stick a pi in that somehow?)

i'd like some kind of retro case for mine, like a gutted deco radio or something.

koogs, Thursday, 18 November 2021 18:28 (two weeks ago) link

Dunno anything about Raspberry Pi, but that Denon appears to have no display at all, LCD or otherwise, and it's $499 and out of stock at Walmart.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 19 November 2021 01:52 (one week ago) link

says it has an OLED display, I think that's showing the logo and model number in the pic. But that's absurd money for a CDP.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 19 November 2021 03:06 (one week ago) link

I stand corrected -- that display is impressively subtle in the pictures. No evidence of CD-text, though.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 19 November 2021 03:25 (one week ago) link

(i did look on the Denon website and they still make comparable players, just that model is out of stock on that one place)

i guess a display isn't as necessary for something that only plays single disks. you're pretty much going to know which disk you just inserted, but will be more useful for any Jukebox kind of thing.

also, i found what-hifi's list of recommended CD players that I'd mentioned i didn't spot when i flicked through the awards issue and that relatively cheap for a CD player is the list is to be believed

koogs, Friday, 19 November 2021 07:37 (one week ago) link

High end disc replay is alive and well, it's the entry-level stuff that's almost vanished. Richer Sounds has a couple of models under £200 from brands I've never heard of, and then you're into Denon/Cambridge Audio territory.

Had the pleasure of listening to a ridiculous system last weekend (Koogs: my old audiophile partner-in-crime from L'boro/Mcr days, who did not stop with this stuff when I did, in fact he accelerated :/ ): Cyrus transport / Chord DAC into Benchmark pre / Bryston monos / Wilson Benesch speakers+sub. I think Pan Sonic's "Mutaaattori" at 90dB will stay with me for a while. Wilson Benesch / Dynavector / Chord vinyl front-end too. All marvellous, and, ooh, at least 1% better than the system he had 15 years ago for 1/5th the cost :)

Michael Jones, Friday, 19 November 2021 12:06 (one week ago) link

(Meaning that his early '00s system was 1/5th the cost of this latest, er, evolution. Still, better this than a fancy car I suppose).

Michael Jones, Friday, 19 November 2021 12:08 (one week ago) link

It’s all about the mastering for me...And then there’s the value ratio. I’d like to have everything on vinyl, but if I can pay $1-5 for a CD for a record that costs $50 or more? Well…. No contest.

OTM. Even on the high-end (e.g. MFSL reissues), I can't imagine paying $100 for a cumbersome double vinyl set when a single SACD is a fifth of that.

birdistheword, Friday, 19 November 2021 18:09 (one week ago) link

decided to start collecting cds this week. i've completely had it with vinyl. i've moved house so many times in the past few year and i can't be bothered dragging round even around 100 records. admittedly, i hadn't bought new music in a very, very long time since aside a few albums from friends, since i couldn't afford a decent turntable or new records, and didn't think discs were worth it/lack of optical drives in computers now... but i think that we moved on from cd too quickly. nothing about new vinyl is worth it anymore to me... new pressings have such poor qc and when i was buying, it always seemed to be pot luck...

i used to argue that cd was futile, now that we have ample storage space and hi-res distribution online, but whacking a disc on and paying full attention to the music away from the screen makes it all feel a little more worthwhile for me. cd is also efficient and inexpensive for independent artists wishing to release their music physically. everyone i know is waiting months upon months for vinyl issues now and half the time have been disappointed with the results.

i spent the past few days moseying charity shops for used discs and it's been exciting to browse and find a touch of tactility again. a little nostalgia in there too. i'm ripping in my finds to itunes/alac for backup/ipod with a usb optical drive for now, but i would like to have a nice hi-fi set up with a player & amp. any recommendations for budget units/bookshelf speakers?

perfect sound forever.

maelin, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 18:21 (one week ago) link

maelin otm

Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 19:22 (one week ago) link

perfect sound forever

raven, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 11:26 (one week ago) link

forever

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 11:51 (one week ago) link

Anyone have experience of those £50 wall mounted vertical cd players that they have on Amazon? I have a 'proper' CD player in the room with the hifi but it would be nice to be able to play a cd in the room we do most of our living in.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:00 (one week ago) link

(i saw those when they were talking on the other thread about adding a cd player to a raspberry pi and wondered if you could fit one in the plastic casing)

the built in speakers (in the muji versions which are the only ones i've seen irl) strike me as a bit inadequate.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:06 (one week ago) link

https://www.instructables.com/Adding-an-audio-jack-to-a-MUJI-wall-CD-player/?&cf=1

or search eBay for wall mounted cd player and you'll see some clones that have line out.

if there's ever one with digital out I'd be on it

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:20 (one week ago) link

ebay same as Amazon for this i guess..nvm

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:21 (one week ago) link

Thanks, didn't know Muji sold them. Yeah, not interested in the built in speakers as I would plug it into an amp. The main reservations people have in reviews seem to be that there's often no cover and they can be a bit noisy.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:28 (one week ago) link

i wonder about voltages and stuff with that mod. would that be line-level out, headphone-level out, something else? also, you now have two cables hanging down.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:53 (one week ago) link

true. maybe I'd lay it down next to my turntable so it's like a mini-me situation

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:56 (one week ago) link

Anyone have experience of those £50 wall mounted vertical cd players that they have on Amazon? I have a 'proper' CD player in the room with the hifi but it would be nice to be able to play a cd in the room we do most of our living in.

Oh, oh. I never did want one, but now I definitely want one.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:08 (six days ago) link


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