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For those of you who have quite a few CDs, but now nearly always download:

Will you bother trying now to sell off your existing CDs?
Will you leave them as a record of 80s/90s to early 00s buying?
Will you continuing buying CDs selectively alongside downloading, for reasons of completing certain artists or genres?

paulhw, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

1. Oh, sure. I keep trying to reduce using the rule of 'if I get another CD I sell at least one back if not more.' It helps that I always get some credit at Amoeba, sometimes a surprising amount.

2. I guess? A lot of stuff that would serve as a very honest record is long since purged.

3. Yup, but via taking advantage of their nearly-flat value. Amoeba again is very good for this -- their clearance section is always stuffed with good finds amid the crud, I can pick up an armload for a song (almost literally in some cases).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

1) Nope or at least not more than I ever did.

2) Uh not exactly.

3) I don't download very much and I still buy CDs and the occassional piece of vinyl.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

am getting it down to about 150 left which i guess i'll keep on shelves for a while before just donating them. they never get played once ripped.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

I picture Ned strolling into Amoeba, reciting a few bars of "Englande" and the guys behind the counter just give him a shopping cart and say "go for it."

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

Selling them all seems like a daunting and infuriating task, so I'll probably keep them, but only out of laziness.

John Justen, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i've got a few boxes of old stuff in the closet that i can't bear to sell for pennies, yet i'm sick of taking them somewhere to have them cherry pick a couple good ones and refuse the rest.

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

i'm keeping mine just in case a neutron bomb comes along and fries everyone's hard drives. (but, uh, not the cd players)

also, it's good to have cds around to loan to friends. it's easier than zipping up and uploading an entire album, and while sharing entire hard drives is in theory the best thing to do, it doesn't happen that often

i've never sold cds, so i won't be starting now.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

i still buy cds.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

(a) Too much trouble.
(b) I suppose, but they serve more of a function than that.
(c) Yes.

While downloading is invariably simpler, quicker, cheaper, etc., I'm still a sucker for the tactile artifact. I like liner notes, lyrics, cover art, all that. I'll download stuff I'm curious about, but if I really like it, I'll still buy the disc.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

i'd love to get rid of everything, but i'm just not good enough at backing shit up to trust it.

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

i wouldn't really part with them unless i had one of those fancy things that lets you use your mp3s on a good stereo, but it's like i just picked u a real nice old NAD cd player for only $30 off craigslist so why bother.

plus yeah like ned said it's gonna be sweet in the next few years, lots of crewsh older stuff for dirt cheap.

although...it is weird seems like some CDs are really picking up in value on ebay, out of print stuff...

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I don't see anything that indicates that rare CDs are any less valuable then they ever were.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

I am keeping my cds because I want backups in case I have hard drive failure. Even with two hard drive copies of my music, I prefer to have the backup. Also, I may want to rip at a higher bitrate later once hd prices come down.

Euler, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to keep my CD's in case I ever need to build a fortress of solitude out of them, Jor-El stylee

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

a) no, except for ones i get sick of.
b) no
c) i download tracks and sometimes albums, but if i really like what i'm hearing i'll buy it in CD or vinyl form. artwork, liner notes, etc.

i'll never say never though, because maybe someday in the distant future i'll sell everything and have it all digitized.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm keeping my CDs.

I'm too lazy to sell and also I have a suspicion that some kind of new digital format will emerge (MP5?) that will make MP3s sound tinny and useless, and that I'll want to re-rip my CDs.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

I still buy cds and vinyl. I will keep them all unless I needed the money.
I barely download now, but like always, I still try to buy what I downloaded as long as I liked it.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

im continuing! cd's are beautiful

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

1. No, never.
2. I will keep them as the art objects/media that they are.
3. Until I can buy whole albums from iTunes or Amazon as .wav files, I will continue buying essential CDs.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

A lot of good reasons to hang onto CDs in this thread. I still enjoy cases and liner notes and having a good thing around to throw my disposable income at. In a lot of ways, I also find them easier to store and maintain than digital music, where you need at least two forms of backup and need to keep an organized file/folder structure together if you're going to find stuff easily. Finally, I still can hear the difference between reasonably good-quality CDs and mp3s, and with formats, storage methods, etc. changing frequently keeping CDs around seems like less of a long-term headache.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

I'll still buy a lot, taking advantage of the lower cost and because I like having the little cardboard boxes from Caiman in the post to look forward to after returning from work.

I keep the price stickers on my CDs, and it amazes me just how much I was paying for music in the 90s. £15 - £16 for some CDs was not unusual.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

ridic

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

its like 12 bux tops for me now. unless its brand new and too good

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'll continue keeping 100s of cds in a sock drawer which I occasionally pull out for a car ride. I wont sell them. But I oughta clean them all. I hate when a cd skips and I hate how I lost some of my cds even though I dont listen to any of my cds much. But I did lose Roxy Music - The Early Years and Tangerine Dream - Rubycon. I broke Thrakattak. And I can't remember what else at the moment. Kinda sucks. Kinda not.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail. If you're lucky, you'll have it backed up to another drive. But then that one could fail as you're trying to dump it to your new hard drive. Then I will point and laugh.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

i hate that too, captain -- i'm actually making a list of CD's i have that are too scratched up/missing. i replace a few ever year

it's like i just realized how to properly take care of a cd.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

Fastnbulbous accurate enough, which is why the CDs I sell back are the ones I never listen to, or have only heard once and thought, "Nice" and never went back to at all. Ergo, why keep 'em around?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

I moved into a new place two months ago and never bothered taking my CDs out of their boxes. I have a few lying around that I've bought recently, but there's no real reason for me to have them out, since the majority are on my iTunes/iPod, anyway.

Back when I started to download albums, I told myself that if I really liked something I downloaded I'd buy it on CD. But then it just seemed silly to go to the trouble of buying it, only to put it on a shelf and forget about it as soon as it was out of its shrink wrap.

Now the albums I buy are the ones I simply can't find online. I don't use p2p, but I can find most major new indie releases on a couple of choice websites or through friends. So what I buy ends up being not necessarily indicative of what I'm really excited about. A lot of times this amounts to used CDs I stumble across and take a chance on.

jaymc, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail.
This is exactly right — CDs have become nothing more than backup.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

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ian, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

1) nah, I'm the kind of person who saves everything
2) ???
3) I never exclusively bought CDs, it was always a mix of vinyl, cassette (back in the day), or mp3 formats. I see no reason why this will change for me in the near future.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

1) too lazy really - and they're not worth that much anyway
2) never completely stopped buying vinyl, so it's not even an accurate record
3) I''ve bought maybe 6 cds this year and maybe 300 LPs (and some cassettes, second hand for the car)

sonofstan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

Also, I may want to rip at a higher bitrate later once hd prices come down.

yeah i thought about that. A couple weeks ago I embarked on digitizing my collection, starting with albums I didn't like that much; I ripped ~ 30 cds @ 320 which is fine for those but my main collection I'm probably gonna want to do in flac or whatever for posterity but i haven't done the math on what i'll need for space. I got 2 500G drives on black friday and I was gonna send one back but maybe I won't. than again i've been latched to rhapsody pretty hard lately and soon even the mp3s might be ancillary to how i'm listening to music. so much up in the air.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

soon as I'm satisfied with backing up, and keeping the habit, I'm selling all my CDs. I need the space and I need the money.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

i've sold all of my cds. still buy vinyl, which i also sell sometimes. while it's impractical, it retains its value better (and escalates in value far more often) and is more 'fun'. sue me

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

I keep the price stickers on my CDs, and it amazes me just how much I was paying for music in the 90s. £15 - £16 for some CDs was not unusual.

We still quite frequently pay $25-$35 AUD for some CD albums in this country. And they wonder why ppl use torrents.

Trayce, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

resolved, did you just rip your CDs into FLAC format and keep them on your hard drive or something?

three handclaps, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

i ripped the ones that deserved it to FLAC + mp3 (for ipod), most of them just to variable rate mp3. and then a lot i just sold without bothering.

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

Will you bother trying now to sell off your existing CDs?

maybe. next year I might be compelled to "monetize" my vinyl collection.

Will you leave them as a record of 80s/90s to early 00s buying?

hate to say it but after sitting there unplayed for awhile they just take up space.

Will you continuing buying CDs selectively alongside downloading, for reasons of completing certain artists or genres?

Barely. I stream music on my computer, listen to old CDs less & less often. CDs/itunes I buy as gifts.

m coleman, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

First off, CDs are still the primary way i listen to music, and I don't download very often.

1.) I'll hang onto my CDs for a long, long time, until they rot away (none of them have). I stopped selling back CDs a few years ago, because I tend to regret it later on. I used to regularly purge my collection of stuff if I hadn't played it in awhile, but there are too many CDs that I'm kicking myself now for selling then.

Plus, it always killed me when I tried to sell stuff that I knew was of really high musical quality or that someone would love to have, and the clerk would offer a pathetic couple of bucks (usually less!) for it. Most used stores never offer very much for CDs, and now when I think about it, the best offer I've ever received (about $3 for a CD, not common at all) is just not worth it to me. I'd rather hang on to the album, sorry, then take your 50 cents.

2. I'll keep my CDs as much more than just a record of this particular time, as they have fucking music on them!!

3. I'll probably buy CDs for quite a while. As others have mentioned, there are so many good finds on used CDs right now, it's great. So much stuff that I would never expect to find in used shops. It's only going to get better over the next few years, too.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Newbury Comics usually gives about $3 per CD.

three handclaps, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

1) No - mainly because CDs are not worth much now, particularly when trying to trade them in at a record store.

2) Most of the CDs I listen to regularly have been ripped now, but I'll keep them as a backup and also because of the possibilty of ripping in higher quality formats/higher bitrates later.

3) I still buy CDs sometimes but nowhere near as often as I used to - I've gone from half a dozen a week in 2001 to a couple a month now. But if I see a box set at a cheap price I'll probably buy it.

snoball, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Those of you who sell off your CDs, someday your hard drive is gonna fail. If you're lucky, you'll have it backed up to another drive. But then that one could fail as you're trying to dump it to your new hard drive. Then I will point and laugh.

I've never had a hard drive die on me ever before. Meanwhile in that time a lot of my records and CDs got damaged in a flood. Life's funneee.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder how homeowner's insurance would cover a hard drive filled with burned FLACs. Are you just screwed or could you reasonably claim the full value of replacing them on iTunes or whatever?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

i sold them on amazon btw, the run of the mill ones at least. you get a lot more money that way if you're prepared to go to spend an hour going packing/going to the post office every few days.

resolved, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

x-post
but when your hd dies it's all gone. and the probability is much higher than all your cds being destroyed at once...

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

word. i'm still reeling from getting over £30 for a tatty Sasha & Digweed CD. xp

what is with you hd-failure doomsayers? you have to fuck a hd up pretty bad before the data on it is completely irretrievable.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh I'm just curious from an insurance standpoint. Like what if someone broke into your house and stole your HD. Can you only claim the HD or could you reasonably claim the cost of replacing the MP3s (I just talked to my boss-a former underwriter--and he's gonna find out for me)?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

once i had a hd which seemed perfectly ok. but suddenly it crashed. it had been formatted a couple of megabytes too high. when i reached the limit it was all over.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

but seriously, it's just stuff. for the most part I could lose it in a fire or flood and I'd be over it within a week

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:48 (one month ago) link

but seriously, it's just stuff. for the most part I could lose it in a fire or flood and I'd be over it within a week

if i grabbed my NAS drive en route out of the house, then yeah, otherwise, absolutely f*ckin not.

mark e, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:21 (one month ago) link

I was considering those sleeves but they're way more expensive than I remembered. Wanted the paper sleeves too (apparently they give more protection? But how?) but that's probably just too much. Maybe I don't have as many CDs as I feared.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:00 (one month ago) link

I don't even get the point of owning physical media if you aren't going to keep the packaging. Why not just rip it all to flac or whatever and get rid of the discs too?

woman in the dunes, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:01 (one month ago) link

Seriously. "If you tear the covers off your books, you can fit more books on your shelf!"

That's.... not at all what this is like though. Those sleeves are specifically just to eliminate the jewel case - they allow you to keep the liner notes and the tray insert. I wouldn't use this for anything in a digipak or in any other kind of non-standard packaging. I wouldn't feel like I'm losing anything, and it's totally reversible if you ever want the jewel case again.

For what it's wroth, I'm not going to invest in these myself, but I totally get the appeal.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

A revolving tower design of shelfs (with a lazy susan as the base), say about 5 feet tall, is an easy way of storing over 1000 CD's without taking up much space. The only catch is, since's it a greater concentration of media within a smaller space, it's also heavy AF, so once you fill it, don't expect to move it unless you take everything off the shelves again. (Also make sure you leave enough space around it so that it can rotate without bumping into any obstacles.) A good one can be expensive, but they're also easy to build if you've got the basic tools.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:44 (one month ago) link

*shelves not shelfs

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:44 (one month ago) link

*since it's - sorry I need to proofread these before I post

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:45 (one month ago) link

The biggest reality is that I just need to cull my collection.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:48 (one month ago) link

all these de-packaging solutions sound like violence :-(

― brimstead, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:28

This ^^ I can get it if you've absolutely no space. But it seems to defeat the purpose of owning physical media. I think I'd rather go totally digital before getting rid of cases etc

Duke, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:52 (one month ago) link

Never knew people loved jewel cases so much. I'm only getting rid of them if I'm struggling for room.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:00 (one month ago) link

A significant part of my collection is not jewel cases. I don't like the idea of half de-packaged and half not. Plus, I don't dislike jewel cases. They have a practicality I can get behind. Completely renewable, for example.

Duke, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:04 (one month ago) link

lol @ the blurry 240p video on that space sleeve site

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:07 (one month ago) link

> 1000ct CD SLEEVES
> From $169.95
holy cow. and i'd need more than one of those...

and you'd have to pay import duty to the UK.

(says a UK person who ordered a box of them and paid import duty and then didn't get round to using most of them. I guess I should revisit that as I'm obviously home a lot and desperate for space atm)

I used a few and I think you have to fold the wider back section, which is annoying, and it seems to expect you to use some smaller liner to put the CD inside the sleeve, but I don't have any, so eh. I've only used it for stuff I don't really care about so far, but then I thought "if I don't case about this I should just put it on discogs", and then guess what I also didn't get round to.

Plus nobody wanted the empty jewel cases and they don't recycle locally and I felt bad putting them in the bin.

L. Prague de Scamp (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:15 (one month ago) link

Jazz lofts for all!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:17 (one month ago) link

Imagine trying to browse 6000 CDs on that rack made for 1000...

Duke, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:51 (one month ago) link

I like mixing the space-saving sleeves up with the digipacks. The digipacks give a bit of rigidity, plus their spines are more visible, so if you store alphabetically then you know roughly where you are. But I've always loathed jewel cases. Ugh, vile things, begone with them. They seem to have almost disappeared for newer releases, and when you do get them, they look like cumbersome anachronisms.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:41 (one month ago) link

I'd perhaps choose a jewel case over a digipak. Lasts forever

Duke, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:57 (one month ago) link

yup, agreed

sleeve, Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:13 (one month ago) link

well, unless you drop one and it's a special color

sleeve, Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:14 (one month ago) link

I like the format. I can live without the packaging most of the time. shrug

vinyl packaging is another story. lyrics I can actually read, for one thing

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:16 (one month ago) link

all the replacement jewel cases I’ve bought in the last several years have been utter trash. Flimsy af.

just ordered two things on vinyl that don’t exist on CD

brimstead, Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:30 (one month ago) link

digipaks, paper packaging looks a lot prettier on a shelf than jewel cases, IMO. like cute little slim books

brimstead, Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:32 (one month ago) link

what’s funny is I’m totally cool looking at spines in my own home but I kinda hate shopping for used CDs that way. makes me think it’s all gonna be dust covered freedy johnston and stroke 9 and Santana supernatural jewel cases for some reason?

brimstead, Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:40 (one month ago) link

Usually is, yes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:58 (one month ago) link

My solution - used Mac Mini (2010 model about $100). Set iTunes to lossless rip inserted CDs, pop in a disc to play, wait a couple minutes, play from rip, eject disc and place case in higher density less accessible housing (shelves in laundry, boxes slid under bed etc. So gradually, collection goes digital, artwork retained, minimal playback inconvenience, can be transcoded for phone library, played to other locations in the house, etc. and physical media there if you ever need it, out of the way if not.
iMac would do just as well if there’s space, they seem to command lesser prices than Minis for that reason I guess. I did a collection of 2500 discs this way (including some bulk ripping sessions) and never looked back.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:45 (one month ago) link

My solution - used Mac Mini (2010 model about $100). Set iTunes to lossless rip inserted CDs, pop in a disc to play, wait a couple minutes, play from rip, eject disc and place case in higher density less accessible housing (shelves in laundry, boxes slid under bed etc. So gradually, collection goes digital, artwork retained, minimal playback inconvenience, can be transcoded for phone library, played to other locations in the house, etc. and physical media there if you ever need it, out of the way if not.
iMac would do just as well if there’s space, they seem to command lesser prices than Minis for that reason I guess. I did a collection of 2500 discs this way (including some bulk ripping sessions) and never looked back.
Oh and Max Mini has good DACs for direct output, or use the optical/USB outs to a dedicated DAC for an upgrade.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:46 (one month ago) link

ugh sorry got confused by Zing

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:47 (one month ago) link

xp that Freedy Johnston cd is not bad

sknybrg, Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:16 (one month ago) link

I've had incredible luck with thrift shopping for CDs in toronto tbh

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:24 (one month ago) link

gah yeah jealous of big city CD thrifting, fuck it feels like another era already

I have my whole CD collection ripped as well, including new stuff as it comes in. But I still have room for the discs, which is nice because I still play them in the truck CD player.

sleeve, Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:47 (one month ago) link

I almost wish I had a car just so I could curate a sick Car Wallet

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:48 (one month ago) link

vehicles are really one of the last bastions for actual CD playing

sleeve, Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:50 (one month ago) link

That’s where I listen to them.

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:58 (one month ago) link

When I started ripping my collection 20 years ago, space as scarce and I used 128kps. I really need to go back and re-rip some of those CDs...

Duke, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:25 (one month ago) link

Space *was* scarce

Duke, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:25 (one month ago) link

My first experience of digitally copying a CD, 20 years ago, was to play the thing at 1x speed through the coax-S/PDIF into my Akai hard-disk recorder, painstakingly put in the track markers by hand, and then burn Disk-At-Once with a hulking great SCSI 4x CD-RW drive. A few months later I had a desktop PC with a CD-RW drive, but it was dreadful; glitches galore (the DVD drive played Get Shorty, once, and never worked again). Even one of the laptops I had in the mid-late '00s had a tendency to mess up rips. And now I have an iTunes (sorry, Music) library on an external 2TB drive with thousands of duplicates, missing source files, no metadata, etc.

Whenever I think "I should just rip this all", I consider what a giant mess my attempts at a digital collection have been. I could just start over.

I found Juliet Stevenson doing Beckett's "Not I" on that hard drive last night, though! I wonder who gave me that. She does an Irish accent. Nein danke.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:27 (one month ago) link

Michael you really might want to try Beatunes. It costs, but it does just about all the metadata cleanup you could want, with various levels of automatic-ness, depending on how closely you want to monitor what it's doing.

There may be something better - I can't pretend to have done exhaustive research on alternatives - but for me it's worked well.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:35 (one month ago) link

I use dBpowerAmp and like it very much

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:36 (one month ago) link

Can these tools check if the library entry points to an actual file, and get rid if it doesn't? Cos I don't wish to be reminded of that cracked Chain Reaction comp and how I ripped it in 2004 but all those files are gone (and many others).

I'd like a tool that looked at all the dupes, and just kept the one with a valid source file / highest bitrate, erasing anything on disc it's deleting from the library. I figure "Track 1", "Track 2", etc nonsense is on me to sort out.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:43 (one month ago) link

Right, that's the sort of thing that Beatunes can do. For dupes it lets you choose highest bitrate, most recently added, keep both, whatever, on a per-dupe basis.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:50 (one month ago) link

I play CDs almost every day. I have a specific set of conditions for a CD player: not a changer, loading discs reasonably quickly (under 15 seconds), option to display CD-text where applicable, and easy track access. Other things like SACD and HDCD at this point are side benefits; I've never seen a DVD or blu-ray player that had the kind of display capabilities I wanted for CDs.

Sony in the '00s checked most of these boxes, but it's hard to find a player that's not a changer (and thus doesn't take forever to load discs). Currently I have an MXD-D400 with CD and minidisc recorder, bought refurbished. As I only have one minidisc, that element is sort of moot if nice to have. It's getting a little finicky: sometimes I need to give the tray an extra push in insertion so that the hub will pick up the CD. So I'm not sure how long the thing will keep working. But hey, it can display CD-text and track times simultaneously, and it has one of those neat little knobs for immediate track access!

I do have too many CDs (pretty much out of shelf space) but have a hard time just giving away discs that I might play, some time. Need to work on this, way overdue for a purge.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:52 (one month ago) link

xp I started ripping everything in 2011 and I don't think I ever had a single problem other than a handful of bad discs, now I feel lucky!

sleeve, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:53 (one month ago) link

completely avoiding iTunes and using FLAC probably helped

sleeve, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:55 (one month ago) link

Ok, will definitely look into beaTunes.

Though pretty much 75% of my listening these days is streaming, and the rest is physical media. beaTunes sounds like it might make the HDD library worth plugging in more often.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:00 (one month ago) link

I got tired of curating downloaded mp3s in the way Michael Jones describes and basically deleted all of them... my digital collection is now entirely either ripped from CD or from online purchases.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:08 (one month ago) link

my digital collection is basically stuff I haven’t gotten around to buying yet + stuff I probably never will get to buy

brimstead, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link

When I started ripping my collection 20 years ago, space as scarce and I used 128kps. I really need to go back and re-rip some of those CDs...

Yeah that's a half-long term project of mine. I've reripped all my box sets and things, plus some key artists.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:46 (one month ago) link

i finished my re-ripping a few weeks ago.
took years.
for all the FLAC vs 320 discussions, i care not.
there is no way i am doing it all again.

mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:53 (one month ago) link

I generally only listen to my ripped CDs out and about. Among the traffic etc, I don't think fidelity is *that* important. But still...

Duke, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:25 (one month ago) link


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