Destroyer - Trouble In Dreams - march 2008

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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/47452-destroyer-foam-hands-mp3stream

this song,"foam hands" sounds like it was taken from "rubies", though it's a bit slower than most of the tracks in "rubies".
i wonder how good this album will be and if Destroyer can still bring the good surprises...

Zeno, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 12:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Track Listing:

Blue Flower/Blue Flame
Dark Leaves From A Thread
The State
Foam Hands
My Favorite Year
Shooting Rockets (From The Desk Of Night's Ape)
Introducing Angles
Rivers
Leopard Of Honor
Plaza Trinidad
Libby's First Sunrise

Zeno, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 12:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Very excited.

G00blar, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 12:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

not enough mis-spellings in thread title

electricsound, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 12:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

I know ilx traditionally has a pretty huge boner for Destroyer*, but I've never been all that into the albums. I really like the tracks he's done for New Pornographers, though - is the conventional wisdom that those tracks do, in fact, sound way different to the stuff he usually writes? I think "Myriad Harbor" is my favorite "Challengers" track.

* (or that was my impression every time I peeked at that "Rubies" thread)

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

i hope we can match the retardedness of the rubies thread here, carry on

cutty, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

This guy needs to stop making albums if only for ilxor.com's sake.

wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

"foam hands" sounds great. secretive. i downloaded a really good live vsn a few months ago, too.

Savannah Smiles - if you like "myriad harbour" there are a bunch of Destroyer tracks that you would like too. they're not quite as hooky but definitely not necessarily "way different". check "trembling peacock", "helena", "Farrar, straus and giroux", "rubies"...

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

stop

wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 14:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

ban wanko ergo sum.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 14:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

ALBUM OF NEXT YEAR!

(come on folks, lets start the hyperbole early!!!)

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 14:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

not feeling Foam Hands that much, I liked the live version that pitchfork posted earlier

there is also the Hello Blue Roses record out soon:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=56150015

dmr, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 15:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the recommendations, Sean. Will check 'em out.

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 15:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

I heard Pitchfork's gonna give it a 10.0

J0hn D., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 15:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

^^^ was gonna make this joke

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 15:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

thouugh ilxor did rambled on and on about Rubies at that time, the Destroyer talk stopped almost completely after the record came out.so i dont really think ilx has a Destroyer boner after all.
people just enjoyed the bullshit talk

Zeno, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's what happens when PR people usurp threads. The campaign ends, so does the slobbering.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah,i'm naive.

Zeno, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

but wait, i thought this was i LOVE music...

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

i really dug rubies and from the few times i've heard it this one's good as well. neither of them's a streethawk but they do the grandiose ridiculous epic thing pretty well, i think.

pretzel walrus, Thursday, 6 December 2007 06:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

i wonder what's "Plaza Trinidad" is about.
(will the lyrics of this record will be good for a good drinking game as well?)

Zeno, Thursday, 6 December 2007 07:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

in the meantime,the other current Destroyer project "hello,blue roses" (with the catchy title:"The Portrait Is Finished and I Have Failed to Capture Your Beauty..." )is leaked.

Zeno, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, did I click on a Destroyer thread by mistake?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

and it sounds like yet another unnecessary joni-mitchell-meets--indie effort

Zeno, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Oh, did I click on a Destroyer thread by mistake"

self-denial?!

Zeno, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

I dunno. I like the rekkids, just not the threads about them.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, did I bookmark a Destroyer thread by mistake?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

this one is still innocence though.(not for a lone time prob.)

Zeno, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Beggars might ride, but not for long.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

leaky leaky

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 03:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

and?

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

awesome

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 10:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

not as immediately great as rubies (or at least nothing's hit me straight-on like 'painter in your pocket') but the instrument on this is so fleshed-out and great

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 10:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

yammy!

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

a pfrk 10 maybe...

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

i can't tell if ppl will think this is great or if im just falling for it bcuz it's really good and sounds a lot like rubies

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 10:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

well,according to this:
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/destroyer/trouble_in_dreams/

ppl will think it's great.

i think it's great too, it catchs you up on the first listening.

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh shit is that really the cover?

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 10:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think at least some of the tracks were recorded live on the studio

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

hopefully not cuz that looks like it was made on indesign xp

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah there's one in the middle where you can hear bejar briefly chatting then counting off the band

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

about the cover, i'm not sure, it might be also this one - a better one for sure:
http://www.catbirdseat.org/catbirdseat/archives/000832.shtml

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

hypertext record for optional drinking games - out

rubies melodies and the "da da da da..." - still in

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

spidery guitar lines- still in

wailing piano- still in

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

so far i think

back half (esp 'introducing angels' and on)>front

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

almost no surprises,but thats a good think.
(i mean, i'm not one of the "your blues fan)

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

good thing

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

totally agree

i went into destroyer starting w/ rubies and didn't like notorious lightning or your blues half as much

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

so u like the less poppy and more talky part

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

kind of

i like rambling singing + da da das + awesome guitar peels

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

not that the first half isn't also great

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

"this night" is the destroyer record of that formula, i think (destroyer might be trying here to re-create the live atmosphere of that record)

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 11:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

"jenny fell like a ton of bricks"
"WHOOOOOOOSH"
"jenny fell like a ton of bricks"
".......WHOOOOOOOOOOSH"

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 11:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is lovely. luscious, like. the tone of the instruments reminds me of In Rainbows but maybe just because ...In Dreams. reminds me of that. the opening song is so great. i'm only half-way through listening, though.

sean gramophone, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

This album is Mellotron central!

Davey D, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Some serious stoner moments in the middle, too...

Davey D, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does it have that shambling 70s rock feel to it, like Rubies did?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 January 2008 16:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

v harry nilsson

sean gramophone, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

That makes it sound v. different from Rubies, which reminded me of 70s Bowie.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 January 2008 16:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

dunno 70s bowie, really. definitely it's closest destroyer peers are Destroyer's Rubies and This Night. he seems to have worked pretty hard to make it sound pretty.

sean gramophone, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

the 2nd half is like "rubies" - the song.
the first half is like "your blues" - the song.
the sound is somewhere in like "rubies" with live-vibe.

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 17:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

ok i was way off. having spent more time with it it's not nilsson-like at all, or particularly pretty. in fact, i don't think musically it's that great. jammy in a way that's putting me off right now. lyrics are tops, though, all nonsense and vivacity.

sean gramophone, Friday, 18 January 2008 19:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

"shooting rockets" and the last song are dramatic, pretty and somewhat depressing.
i think i'll like this record.

Zeno, Friday, 18 January 2008 23:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Shooting Rockets" is AWE-SOME

Davey D, Saturday, 19 January 2008 00:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Libby's First Sunrise" is so good

dmr, Saturday, 19 January 2008 00:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

where the hell are you all hearing this?

iago g., Saturday, 19 January 2008 02:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

nevermind

iago g., Saturday, 19 January 2008 03:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

first response. same wobbly guitar leads, new? use of mellotron strings, not nearly as many girl's names, nowhere near Rubies (except Shooting Rockets)--my ambivalence is sure to turn rapidly to wildly inordinate overpraise upon repeated listens

iago g., Saturday, 19 January 2008 16:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

the biggest difference between "trouble" and "rubies" is that on this one there are less hooks .but still it's great and very enjoyeble.

Zeno, Saturday, 19 January 2008 17:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

nothing is hitting me quite like "painter in yr pocket" or "european oils" just yet.

Simon H., Saturday, 19 January 2008 17:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

maybe cause there are almost no hooks,and no catch-phrases..

Zeno, Saturday, 19 January 2008 18:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

enjoying the 'da-da-duh-duh-da-dee-daa-dada' section of rivers quite a bit

The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

yep. "Rivers" is second best behind "Libby" I think

the lyrics seem more .... straightforward than usual

dmr, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

...if u can understand them

Zeno, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

"i've got street despair caught into my heart..."
"i was starving in that shit-house"
"youve been wanderin' around,youve been fuckin' around"
"1993 - it was a good year, it was a very good year..."

Zeno, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, i've googled this forum too..
aside from body builder,it's a well known fact that Destroyer is also popular among accountants and bridge players

Zeno, Saturday, 19 January 2008 23:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

lololol zeno ftw

J0rdan S., Sunday, 20 January 2008 00:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is growing at me to be the most disturbing,sometimes depressingly serious and maybe the best Destroyer release yet.
getting closer to Reed's "Berlin" and nick cave, and far away from "hunky dory"

Zeno, Monday, 28 January 2008 01:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s1192657.jpg

Zeno, Monday, 28 January 2008 13:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

the sense of depression,surrealism and insanity in this record is rare to find in records, and it strikes with great emotional power.
in short, it's the strongest Destroyer record to date
i really think bejar is in the same league as scott walker, lou reed and nick cave.at their best i mean.

"we live in darkness the light is a dream you see...the light holds a terrible secret.."

Zeno, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

After a couple of spins, I don't like it as much as Rubies. It's more bummed out, less ecstatic, less catchy. The song "Shooting Rockets.." is an impressive depressive reverie though - perhaps the one song that best approaches the peaks of Rubies - and there are some pretty, catchy tunes in the first half. The lyrics seem to be struggling a bit on this one.

o. nate, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I just relistened to this yesterday and am trying to figure out why I don't like it nearly as much as Rubies, despite the fact that the sound is fairly similar. I think yeah, it's just a little less catchy.

jaymc, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I also think Bejar doesn't really sell it as much this time - he sounds a bit fatigued, less sure of himself, grappling with doubt.

o. nate, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think it's actually a bit better than "rubies",BECAUSE it's less catchy

Zeno, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

I haven't decided where this places in the Destroyer pantheon yet, but it does feature my new favorite Bejar pun: "I was wringing a bell's neck!"

Simon H., Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think that to get away with singing nonsense it's important to sound utterly sure of yourself. Bejar pulled this off beautifully on Rubies. But to listlessly and apologetically sing nonsense wears on the listener's patience.

o. nate, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This has grown on me a bit, esp. "Rivers". I still don't like it as much as Rubies though.

There was an interesting Q&A with Bejar on eMusic recently where he said that he was listening a lot to Dylan's Christian-period albums while making Rubies - I definitely hear that in the singing.

o. nate, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

saw him last week on tour for this record, it was one of the best shows I've seen him play

setlist was mostly This Night / Trouble in Dreams with a couple from Rubies .... any set that ends with Hey Snow White I'm gonna be cool with it

dmr, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

they're not playing anything from Streethawk or Thief though :/

dmr, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

ten years pass...

i didn't know what time it was at all

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:43 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah, that one always sticks

niels, Saturday, 9 June 2018 12:25 (four months ago) Permalink

the Rubies - Trouble in Dreams combo remains my favorite era of Destroyer by far

Dinsdale, Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:11 (four months ago) Permalink


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