Britney Spears - Blackout

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Soundclips available on People.com among (I assume) other places. First listen to these samples and holy shit she pulled it out. Its got a clunky Eurodisco meets Human leage sound. All Depeche Mode synths and bizarre Knife style vocoder twists. It really sounds like Gimme More was the actually rather weak blueprint for the album.

Has this le4ked? I don't know. Any way due out in ten days on October 30.

Excellent.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 12:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

Piece of Me sounds like Being Boiled its got this totally minimal electroclash sound with some pretty twisted vocal manipulation and one fucking brutal rhythm track.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 12:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Its like she took My Perogative mixed with Brave New Girl and went with it. Piece of me even reminds me of Bird Flu a bit.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 12:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Heaven" is awesome.

Turangalila, Saturday, 20 October 2007 12:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

Please do not invoke "Being Boiled" when discussing the meritless offal that is Britney Spears. Thanks.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sorry, have you heard this particular song? Or what are you basing that on. Thank you.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm basing it on the fact that Britney Spears is incapable of making music of quality and distinction. Thanks again.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

And if you hate Britney Spears why click on this thread? And assuming you haven't heard this song why read what someone you don't know has to say on it when you don't even care about it? Thanking you kindly.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

My disdain for the subject matter doesn't dillute my curiosity. I don't like the Nazis, but I'll still watch the History Channel. Thanks awfully.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Great thread.

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

xpost

You're quite welcome. Thanks so much.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Cheers to you. You're too kind. Ta.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Don't mention it, my gratitude is yours.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://www.genk.be/upload/25091480/images/humanleague.jpg

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

'cause we were never being boiled
we have too much time to find for ourselves

J0hn D., Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

<i>'cause we were never being boiled
we have too much time to find for ourselves</i>

This is beyond the pale.

s. morris, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Listen to the voice of Buddha
Sayin' you're underprotected.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/bunchoffives/200px-Dionne_anyone.jpg

what you say today is indexed by google for ETERNITY! Please take a moment to consider this!

s. morris, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't get the jpeg

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

I hate what happened to my Britney thread.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

All Depeche Mode synths and bizarre Knife style vocoder twists.
-- I know, right?, Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:00 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

haven't heard the britney album (and hopefully never will), but god, you're giving her waaaaay too much credit here; no way she's comparable to these doods. to quote alex in nyc: britney spears is incapable of making any music of quality and distinction.

stephen, Saturday, 20 October 2007 17:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

The clips are okay but they sound like SO MANY of the electro-tinged pop records that have been knocking about for four or five years now. I'm hesitant to judge on the basis of a few clips but they all sound competant rather than magical.

Or maybe I've heard too many records like this now to be excited by another one, even if it is Britney.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 17:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

(Okay three or four years maybe)

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 17:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

In Britain maybe. We've only been getting this kind of stuff for a year or so here.

The Reverend, Saturday, 20 October 2007 17:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

I was originally going to post a snarky message about massive American pop stars suddenly going mad for a style of music we got here years ago (Will.I.Am, Kanye, Britney) but decided against it.

It's kind of odd though, over the 00s we've become accustomed to big US pop productions sounding really fresh, and now suddenly they're taking the cue from a style of music that's just become somewhat old hat in Europe.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

But it's true. I find the whole hiphop/europop crossover thing rather fascinating. And it does sound fresh to American ears because most never heard this kind of stuff when it was big in Europe.

On a related note, what have the recent pop production trends in Europe been?

The Reverend, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean, probably the only non-ilxor person I know who's heard of Girls Aloud or the Sugababes went to college in Britain from 2001-2005 or so.

The Reverend, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

There is no pop music in Britain any more.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Like the ancient prophets predicted: it ate itself.

Cunga, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean, the trend in the UK is either flimsy pop-ska as sung by drama school graduates who were too shit at acting to make a career out of it, or flimsy acoustic strumming from drama school graduates who were too shit acting to make a career out of it.

There's the good old 'make the guitars sound as much like synths as possible, make the synths sound as much like guitars as possible and then pile them together' school of production as well but Xenomania have been doing that for years.

But mostly there's just bad haircut indie.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

There's more than one Lily Allen? That sucks.

The Reverend, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's possible to be too shit at acting to make a career out of it as long as Hollyoaks exists.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

they call this one kate nash
http://www.theclerisy.com/afor/images/katenash.jpg

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

she actually looks like a shit actress come to think of it.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 October 2007 18:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

Worst thread ever.

I know, right?, Saturday, 20 October 2007 19:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

In April 2007, Nash and other up-coming London acts were attacked through a parody of Nash's song entitled, "LDN Is A Victim." The unknown acts posted the song on their MySpace profile [1]. Lily Allen responded via MySpace, stating "Kate Nash is well better than you". The syntax used in Lily Allen's assertion displays a trait for which both she and Kate Nash are known; namely, for speaking and singing with incorrect grammar in the style of an informal conversation. [6]

milo z, Saturday, 20 October 2007 19:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

wikipwn.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 October 2007 19:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol British

The Reverend, Saturday, 20 October 2007 19:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

britney spears is incapable of making any music of quality and distinction.

-- stephen, Saturday, 20 October 2007 17:21

oh come now. really?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 20 October 2007 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

at least she's a great mother

gershy, Saturday, 20 October 2007 20:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Leave it Hoos, he's not worth it.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 20 October 2007 20:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

At least with Alex in NYC I can resort to "u old," but Stephen is a good dude! Just smh, I guess.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

oh come now. really?

Some of her songs are very good, e.g., Toxic, but she isn't the one writing them. I guess that's a "rockist" criticism, whatever that means, but that doesn't make it wrong. It's also not a criticism meant to demean her; she's a very good performer (but not a good singer).

Having said that, I'm rooting for her on this disc and in her career. At this point, she's one of the more genuine figures in pop culture. She seems incapable of presenting herself as the sterile, boring "media product" that I expect with young pop stars. She seem interesting.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

(But also keep in mind that "I old," as BH might say).

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Some of her songs are very good, e.g., Toxic, but she isn't the one writing them. I guess that's a "rockist" criticism

I don't give a fuck if it's a rockist criticism or not, I was just chafed by the idea that nothing good can ever come from her; as you say, she's been involved with some good (I might say really good) stuff: Toxic, Slave 4 U, even Hit Me is sorta a quintessential late 90s pop tune.

Like you I'm also rooting for her just cause I wanna see someone triumph over the depressing Glitz Machine that drives so many talented people crazy. Bonus points for her beating the Glitz Machine if only because she's been so publicly fucked over by it.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Alex will tell me I need to raise my standards or get some taste or whatever, but such as it is.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't give a fuck if it's a rockist criticism or not, I was just chafed by the idea that nothing good can ever come from her; as you say, she's been involved with some good (I might say really good) stuff: Toxic, Slave 4 U, even Hit Me is sorta a quintessential late 90s pop tune.

Like you I'm also rooting for her just cause I wanna see someone triumph over the depressing Glitz Machine that drives so many talented people crazy. Bonus points for her beating the Glitz Machine if only because she's been so publicly fucked over by it.

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm not so sure Alex would disagree, either.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm in the same corner as the two of you. I wouldn't consider myself a fan, really, but I think good can come out of this.

The Reverend, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

If Alex truly doesn't like "Toxic," then I feel sorry for him. I have a hunch he's just pretending not to like it.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 21 October 2007 02:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

omg what

Surmounter, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haha- That last one kinda sounds like Justina.

lou, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean jUsTiNa.

lou, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is that Robyn on the Radar one? Would make sortof sense, she was involved in that and Radar is one of the Bloodshy and Avant tracks.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

In any case, it's pretty stunning how Britney really brought that alive.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

no, it's Candice from The Clutch, who wrote the song...

After The Hurricane (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, its a great song, but I'm glad Britney sang it.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Super LQ clip of "Womanizer": http://www.zshare.net/audio/19057302260733a0/

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 19 September 2008 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

In any case, it's pretty stunning how Britney really brought that alive.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:23 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Surmounter, Friday, 19 September 2008 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

thx for clip! sounds great. it's so weird, this formula they've came up with for her -- it just seems so feasible. GIMME MORE

Surmounter, Friday, 19 September 2008 17:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

In any case, it's pretty stunning how Britney really brought that alive was brought to life.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:23 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ikr

yungblut, Friday, 19 September 2008 23:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

aarrrrggghhh

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 03:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

the end of break the ice when it's all brit takes my breath away

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 03:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

i demand to know right away why no one told me about the video for this.

Surmounter, Friday, 7 November 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

for what you kerazy person?

I know, right?, Friday, 7 November 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

BREAK

Surmounter, Friday, 7 November 2008 07:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

THE

Surmounter, Friday, 7 November 2008 07:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

ICE

Surmounter, Friday, 7 November 2008 07:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

hi ramzi

barack husession (J0rdan S.), Friday, 7 November 2008 07:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey! was just thinking of you tonight -- i saw a brooklyn boy with your face.

Surmounter, Friday, 7 November 2008 07:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

oooh

barack husession (J0rdan S.), Friday, 7 November 2008 07:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

guys

Surmounter, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

i just realized that if you listen to get naked" on headphones, you hear this soft monster of little britneys singing "whatcha tryin to do" in the middle

all the production on this song is kind of ridonc. never got it.

Surmounter, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

how did I miss that post actually

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Saturday, 23 May 2009 18:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost I love that song!

Turangalila, Saturday, 23 May 2009 18:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah "get naked" is the best song on the album imo

i'm educated in sex, yes (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 23 May 2009 18:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

guys this album soundtracked a very particular period of my life and i think its going to be a long time before I can really listen to it again : (

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

just like britney!

lex pretend, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

This album is still so amazing. sigh

Turangalila, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

guys this album soundtracked a very particular period of my life and i think its going to be a long time before I can really listen to it again : (

― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), jueves 13 de agosto de 2009 19:37 (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I feel you. :(

Turangalila, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

sorry for sleeping :(

welcome back, ma$ed god (The Reverend), Friday, 20 August 2010 05:54 (six years ago) Permalink

at least you're here now

janice (surm), Friday, 20 August 2010 14:15 (six years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

lol still can't believe this album happened. i just did a cover of piece of me at a show. it was fun.

surm, Friday, 24 April 2015 06:27 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

A chance hearing of 'Break The Ice' last week has got me listening to this again on a daily basis. What an incredible album, time for a ten-year anniversary vinyl edition please :)

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 23 February 2017 14:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Jeez, forgotten what "meritless offal" Alex in NYC was.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 23 February 2017 14:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Ha -- I misssed this yesterday. My favorite Britney songs. This album dominates.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2017 04:16 (four months ago) Permalink

I went back to this album following this thread revival: it still holds up and sounds great.
I also discovered "get back" on the extended version on Spotify. It's pretty good !

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 25 February 2017 10:30 (four months ago) Permalink

not today i'm not! how shall we break this down? deliciously ironical lyricky self awareness? 'stars are blind', 'fighting over me', 'screwed'. blithely wealthy industry appropriation of modern musical trends? 'turn it up', turn you on'. fuck you world and you yes you in particular? 'jealousy'. all britney has over paris is a vague hazy rage and people's insane lust for electro-toss and hacky robodiva crit; paris only covered 'do you think i'm sexy' once, not 12 times.

whh-tshh!

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:27 AM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha note to self only think whh-tshh next time do not type

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:30 AM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In fairness, electro-toss and hacky robodiva crit is 90% of the reason I prefer this to the Paris record.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:40 AM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also do the whh-tshh again.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:41 AM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whh-NO I WILL NOT BE EXECUTIVE PRODUCED DAMN YOU PAPARAZZO

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:50 AM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great thread

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:12 (four months ago) Permalink

this thread is weird. remember when ppl cared how much credit britney deserved or didn't deserve for making amazing music? feel like that was a big topic when i was in college. first it went 'britney is talentless hack' then 'even if she makes good music other ppl deserve the credit for doing it for her' then 'well she probably deserves some credit for curating this' then 'well she probably deserves lots of credit bc u know this is her voice and her decisions and her album' then 'fuck u britney is awesome'

Mordy, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:24 (four months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNrnmDmffRc

Please do not invoke "Being Boiled" when discussing the meritless offal that is Britney Spears. Thanks.

this otm tho. "Piece of Me" compared to this is laughable

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Human League have 10 other songs better than the offal known as "Being Boiled."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:42 (four months ago) Permalink

u know, i knew Perfect Lover was great the 1st time, but when i heard it the second time i really got it

― Surmounter, Friday, October 26, 2007 12:43 PM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

love this too

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:42 (four months ago) Permalink

'Being Boiled' is an absolute classic. Good to see people comparing nonsense to synthpop classics isn't a new thing on here.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 25 February 2017 19:22 (four months ago) Permalink

uh Blackout is a synth pop record, most of it good or classic.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2017 19:46 (four months ago) Permalink

this thread is weird. remember when ppl cared how much credit britney deserved or didn't deserve for making amazing music? feel like that was a big topic when i was in college. first it went 'britney is talentless hack' then 'even if she makes good music other ppl deserve the credit for doing it for her' then 'well she probably deserves some credit for curating this' then 'well she probably deserves lots of credit bc u know this is her voice and her decisions and her album' then 'fuck u britney is awesome'

― Mordy, Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:24 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the "this is her decisions and her album" argument almost always bothers me, because in order to combat the "talentless hack" argument -- I mean, a legit goal -- people tend to overcompensate and misrepresent/gloss over reality, generally business/industry reality. Britney is a rare case where some of this is actually public (i.e. she's still under a conservatorship, meaning "this" quite literally is not her decisions and her album)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:04 (four months ago) Permalink

It's that phenomenon whereby non-critics who like music don't much discuss who produced albums or how it was made but when it's Britney they never fail to point out how many people are involved in making it even when they don't know their names.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:08 (four months ago) Permalink

xp Also plays to the old rockist argument of the importance of the person the record is credited to be 'controlling' the content as a producer would - wgaf when it's firing on all cylinders.

Fuck happened to Danja tho huh?

nashwan, Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:09 (four months ago) Permalink

I wouldn't call that a non-critic phenomenon -- with pop artists, this sort of thing tends to crop up among professional, somewhat old-school critics

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:13 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

glad this thread got bumped, I almost forgot how fuckin' strange this was. I hated Ms. Spears for a long time but as soon as "It's Britney bitch" dropped I changed my tune. I remember hearing the single for the first time and just being in disbelief, felt like it just had no commercial potential whatsoever. then I heard the full thing and it was like 12 "Windowlickers" in a row. its even better than the Teen Mom album.

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:10 (three months ago) Permalink


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