The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society Poll

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whats the best of the best of those best bunch of songs?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Village Green Preservation Society" – 2:45 11
"Big Sky" – 2:49 8
"Animal Farm" – 2:57 7
"Do You Remember Walter?" – 2:23 7
"Picture Book" – 2:34 6
"Starstruck" – 2:18 5
"Village Green" – 2:08 5
"Johnny Thunder" – 2:28 4
"Phenomenal Cat" – 2:34 3
"All of My Friends Were There" – 2:23 3
"Wicked Annabella" – 2:40 2
"Sitting by the Riverside" – 2:21 1
"Last of the Steam-Powered Trains" – 4:03 1
"Monica" – 2:13 1
"People Take Pictures of Each Other" – 2:101


Zeno, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm going with animal farm, though ilately i love monica more than ever.

Zeno, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Village Green"

W4LTER, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

always had a sentimental attachment to walter. the song, not the poster above me.

s1ocki, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is really difficult, but I ended up voting for "Village Green".

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

"walter" was prob the most influntial track from the record, u can hear it echoes on many other acts songs..

Zeno, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Big Sky" just over "Picture Book," "Wicked Annabella" and the title track. Very tough.

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Village Green, easily.

Alba, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

'Do You Remember Walter?'

zeus, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

Monica

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Animal Farm" by a million miles. Ray really opens up and sings on that one like I've rarely heard him sing anywhere else.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Do You Remember Walter", easily.

Euler, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

otm about "animal", and the powerfull ,dramatic production of it...goody

Zeno, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

I heart The Kinks, especially the Powerman album, but I'm still not convinced by this one. Apart from the title track, the songs always seemed a little sketchy and under-developed to me. (Although maybe that's the point.) I do love "Sitting by the Riverside", though. And rather this than "Arthur."

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

This was really hard. I went with my first choice, Starstruck, but it really could be almost any track...

James, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

I can't vote on this because I can't make up my mind. It's somewhere between "Village Green" (we all mean the second side cut, right? not the quasi-chant at the beginning of the album), "Picture Book," "People Taking..." "Starstruck" and "Animal Farm."

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've never noticed it before, but I have a version of this album missing tracks 5,6, 7 and 8.

Bob Six, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Picture Book. We Are... a close second.

altho I think I am alone in preferring Face to Face, with this tied with Something Else.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

no wait what am I thinking "All of My Friends Were There"! Forgot that was on this album arrrgh change my vote!

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

you who made your choice "easily" are nuts. this is one of the most perfectly consistent albums ever made. i will probably end up going with the first track on side 1 or the last track on side 2, but even that choice has me pulling my hair out. those are all-time faves for me, whereas "monica" is a more recent fave. i also recently got into "last of the steam powered trains," which was a really slow grower for me (like, it took years). i used to rank this album behind both "face to face" and "something else," but the more time passes, the more this one keeps creeping up on me.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm never buying a 'Castle' record again; they seem to have taken 4 tracks off and added "Days" as compensation.

Village Green, with Phenomenal Cat close behind.

Bob Six, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

"I've never noticed it before, but I have a version of this album missing tracks 5,6, 7 and 8."

the european version is missing some tracks i think.

Zeno, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

"you who made your choice "easily" are nuts"

"thiiis world is big and wide and half insane..

Zeno, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's a consistent album but consistently I think "Do You Remember Walter" is the highlight. For me "easily" meant "it's an easy choice for me" not "it's miles above the rest".

Euler, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

i still think you're nuts :)

not because you love "walter." but because you are capable of making an easy choice. though, strangely, walter has always been one of my least favorite songs here. it's uncharacteristically condescending towards an ordinary bloke.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

My ranking of the whole thing:

"Animal Farm" – 2:57
"Big Sky" – 2:49
"All of My Friends Were There" – 2:23
"Sitting by the Riverside" – 2:21
"Picture Book" – 2:34
"Do You Remember Walter?" – 2:23
"Starstruck" – 2:18
"Johnny Thunder" – 2:28
"People Take Pictures of Each Other" – 2:10
"The Village Green Preservation Society" – 2:45
"Monica" – 2:13
"Phenomenal Cat" – 2:34
"Wicked Annabella" – 2:40
"Village Green" – 2:08
"Last of the Steam-Powered Trains" – 4:03

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

it's uncharacteristically condescending towards an ordinary bloke.

I always thought it was more of a Chuck & Buck thing.

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is really hard

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

See, I don't think the point is to be condescending toward Walter, but rather it's the big punch line about how memories of people remain. Walter doesn't get a chance to respond, and so I end up wondering if there was a Walter at all, or if he's just a construct of the narrator's memory, a way of hating himself for his own choices.

Euler, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

strangely, walter has always been one of my least favorite songs here. it's uncharacteristically condescending towards an ordinary bloke.

-- fact checking cuz, Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:41 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

it's about him! (the "narrator") it's a really well-written piece of projection.

s1ocki, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

(x-post)
interesting take. of course walter can't respond, because there's on evidence the narrator has the slightest clue where walter is or what he might be doing. he's just kind of smugly assuming that he's abandoned all his childhood dreams (and we are presumably meant to infer that the narrator hasn't). but, hmmm, if it's the narrator arguing with his inner self over his own dreams and memories, that might make it a very different song.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

look at that, i got xpwned!

s1ocki, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 23:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have the 3- or 4-CD Village Green. never listen to it. never listen to the Kinks except for the early stuff like "Where Have All the Good Times Gone." think this is overrated album. but kind of love some of it and had excellent LSD experience listening to it in a farmhouse in Kentucky some years ago. my vote was for "Johnny Thunder."

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 23:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've never noticed it before, but I have a version of this album missing tracks 5,6, 7 and 8.

It probably has "Days" and "Mr. Songbird" instead then.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 01:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Where's all the love for Starstruck?

iago g., Wednesday, 3 October 2007 02:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Where's all the love for Starstruck?

i voted for it! better yet --> the video!!

Eisbaer, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

'animal farm' over 'village green', 'big sky','walter' and 'village pres..'

gman, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nothing beats Big Sky off this by miles.

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

prolly Animal Farm, but i have a soft spot for Monica. and Walter's pretty great too. so's the rest of it. If we lived in a Castle and counted 'Days' then that would trounce everyting

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

no idea how anyone could profess to love the kinks yet not this album (and arthur!!)

J.D., Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Quite difficult choice.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

had excellent LSD experience listening to it in a farmhouse in Kentucky some years ago. my vote was for "Johnny Thunder."

There should be a thread on what's the best music you've ever heard on LSD; my bet is that it wouldn't be the classic psychedelic albums that most people might expect - but more idiosyncratic albums like this.

That said, acid's blown your mind dude - Johnny Thunder is pants.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 07:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

This album blows my mind.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 08:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

...no narcotics needed, I should add.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 08:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Where's all the love for Starstruck?

It is out there. My second choice, matter of fact.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 12:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wicked Annabella, 'cause it's scary!

dlp9001, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 13:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Thursday, 4 October 2007 23:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Friday, 5 October 2007 23:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

what

ciderpress, Saturday, 6 October 2007 03:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

As always, the lurkers vote for the hit.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 6 October 2007 17:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

that's because the hit is the fuckin bomb

roxymuzak, Sunday, 7 October 2007 12:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, it's OK. There are better tracks though.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 7 October 2007 12:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

3 people voted for "Phenomenal Cat."

da croupier, Sunday, 7 October 2007 13:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yay!

dlp9001, Sunday, 7 October 2007 14:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

3 people voted for "Phenomenal Cat."

― da croupier, Sunday, October 7, 2007 9:16 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

i heart ILM sometimes

(not that i would've voted for "phenomenal cat")

I have nine Carmine Lupertazzis under my subspecies (Eisbaer), Saturday, 23 January 2010 07:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Write-in for single-around-the-time-of-the-album: "Days" blows this whole record out of the water. And that takes some doing.

Did you say you were going to mangle the light? (staggerlee), Saturday, 23 January 2010 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

"People Take Pictures of Each Other" – 2:10 1

I'm surprised, and surprised that no-one else was.

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's probly my fav. It pops into my head all of the time. I hate people who think that just b/c they have a digital camera they've suddenly been appointed documenter(documentarian?) of every goddamn social event.

Also, did anyone else notice this?:

This is really difficult, but I ended up voting for "Village Green".

― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, October 2, 2007 4:49 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

As always, the lurkers vote for the hit.

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, October 6, 2007 12:33 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's because the hit is the fuckin bomb

― roxymuzak, Sunday, October 7, 2007 7:52 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Well, it's OK. There are better tracks though.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, October 7, 2007 7:56 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

Fetchboy, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Village Green" came seventh.

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ha! Song name mixup! My bad!

Fetchboy, Monday, 15 February 2010 15:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Title track is easily my least favourite.

PaulTMA, Monday, 15 February 2010 15:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like these:
"Last of the Steam-Powered Trains" – 4:03 1
"Monica" – 2:13 1
"People Take Pictures of Each Other" – 2:10 1

more than these:
The Village Green Preservation Society" – 2:45 11
"Big Sky" – 2:49 8
"Animal Farm" – 2:57 7

iatee, Monday, 15 February 2010 17:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

"People Take Pictures of Each Other" – 2:10 1

Disgraceful. I've always liked the Fiddler On the Roof vibe of this song.

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I never reckoned much on this album back in the day, as it was supposed to be all about British Village Life as such.

Yet, line two is "God bless Donald Duck" which is USA, so I got the impression the whole album was sarcasm. Which put me off.

Eventually, I got a nice copy of the mono album (the opening track has an edge warp, which just about plays OK if the turntable is in a good mood), and enjoyed it more.

Then, "People take pictures" was on some ad, and it prompted me to dig it out again. (That track wouls have been a hit single, reckons I)

Then I managed to get the 10CD Kinks boxset for £25 or suchlike (see pollthread)

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 15:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think Ray Davies what knew about 'British Village Life' would probably have fitted on the back of a postage stamp. Unless Muswell Hill counts as a village.

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 15:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

Would have voted for either 'Big Sky' or 'Animal Farm', with 'Monica' and 'People Take Pictures of Each Other' being the two I like but don't love as much as the rest of the album. Superb record though, easily one of the finest albums to come out of the UK in 1968.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

title track
walter
starstruck
sitting by the riverside
steam powered train

one of these^

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

or village green

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I love the instrumental break on 'Last of the Steam Powered Trains', and I was surprised to learn that 'Village Green' was recorded a couple of years before the album but yet they didn't do anything with it until '68.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I love this album. Definitely one of the best 60s pop albums (up there with Pet Sounds, Revolver...).
The flow of fantastic melodies is unstoppable and the sound is warmer and fuller than on their previous output.
I'm surprised by the winner of the poll, though.
It's a good and fun song but nowhere near many of the other tracks.
I would have said "Animal Farm" or "Village Green".

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 November 2017 10:43 (one week ago) Permalink

"Walter", definitely.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 10:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Also, "King Kong" from that time is such a prelude to T-Rex !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 November 2017 11:14 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm surprised by the winner of the poll, though.
It's a good and fun song but nowhere near many of the other tracks.

I agree - I love the track but see it more as an extended intro to the LP.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:43 (one week ago) Permalink

honestly think this is one of the best albums ever made. hard to pick a favorite but "Animal Farm" bounced around in my head for a very very long time.

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:50 (one week ago) Permalink

this thread reminded me to listen to this beautiful album again, good job guys

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:08 (one week ago) Permalink

They were on fire from 1966-1971 ... they had an excellent singles discography from 'You Still Want Me' onwards, of course (their cover of 'Long Tall Sally' is a bit meh) but I love pretty much almost everything they put out 1966-1971.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 07:21 (one week ago) Permalink

The six albums from Kink Kontroversy to Lola are a fantastic run. Who has done better than that besides Frank Sinatra in the 1950s?

Josefa, Friday, 10 November 2017 07:41 (one week ago) Permalink

impossible to choose, really, but i'd have gone with "walter" which always makes me melancholy. prob my favorite album of the decade.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 08:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah they were incredible during that period. I must say I don't know much about their post Lola albums.
As for the Village Green album, I thought there might be something lacking for all its perfect pop : there's not really an emotional song, like "Waterloo Sunset" or "Don't Talk" or "God Only Knows" for Pet Sounds or "For No One" for Revolver, for instance.
It's mostly all pure upbeat pop. "Village Green" might be close to that kind of emotional song but it's not exactly that. There's more distance (in the songwriting and the arrangements).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 November 2017 09:03 (one week ago) Permalink

AIXTC - some versions of this album include 'Days', which should be that emotional song you're looking for.

I have this album in mono and stereo edition, all on one disc, which has the original tracks as well as additions like Days. Lots of greatness.

I could go with the winner of the poll, but Last of the Steam-Powered Trains is another of my favourites here.
(But if Days would be eligible, it'd be Days!)

Valentijn, Friday, 10 November 2017 11:02 (one week ago) Permalink

The fact that 'Days' (one of my favourite songs of all time) isn't on the album yet the album is still incredible says a lot about how strong the songwriting is.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:04 (one week ago) Permalink

the Kink Kronikles compilation that covers this period is insanely good as well, and includes a lot of the awesome singles that weren't on the albums

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:08 (one week ago) Permalink

The six albums from Kink Kontroversy to Lola are a fantastic run. Who has done better than that besides Frank Sinatra in the 1950s?

― Josefa, Friday, November 10, 2017 2:41 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Percy soundtrack, though...

I mean, it's not awful, but it's hardly on the level of the records that came before and after.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Wikip has Percy coming after "Lola" i.e. it's the last Pye album

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Percy did have one great song on it though. I think it's called "God's Children". Given that it's a soundtrack and they did do the excellent Muswell Hillbillies the next year I guess I can forgive them for it.

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

wait, not the next year. the same year. though MH was clearly a different sound that doesn't really jive with the Pye era. it's probably the only great album they did outside it.

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

"The Way Loved Used to Be", "Moments" and "Dreams" are all excellent too, re: Percy soundtrack

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:13 (one week ago) Permalink

Those three and "God's Children" are better than most of "Muswell Hillbillies".

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:13 (one week ago) Permalink

"God's Children" is an incredible song, was a long time before I heard it

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Wikip has Percy coming after "Lola" i.e. it's the last Pye album

― Mark G, Friday, November 10, 2017 10:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

D'oh, you are correct! I probably misread your post as "Kontroversy through Muswell Hillbillies," which is often pointed to as The Flawless Run.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:49 (one week ago) Permalink

That wasn't me.

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 17:10 (one week ago) Permalink

the Kink Kronikles compilation that covers this period is insanely good as well

and the great lost kinks album, which came out a year later and is every bit as good, compiling b-sides, unreleased miscellany, etc., from the same insanely good era.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I'd say The Kinks and Small Faces are my two favourite '60s bands from the UK. Just so much great music, a lot of which has still not been overplayed to death.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:03 (one week ago) Permalink

(I'd put The Zombies in third place for Odessey and Oracle alone)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Highly recommend y'all grab this 1969 performance: http://bbchron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/kinks-1969-11-27-san-francisco-fillmore.html

Isi, Saturday, 11 November 2017 08:19 (one week ago) Permalink


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