You got (to) love Technique

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Fine Time 13
Dream Attack12
Round & Round 11
Run 11
Vanishing Point 10
All the Way 6
Mr Disco 4
Love Less 2
Guilty Partner 1


Alba, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

argh

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

can't decide!

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Round & Round. Probably my favorite NO song (or not, glad I don't actually have to pick one ever).

matt2, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"Dream Attack" right now.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"all the way"

r1o natsume, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"Round and Round"

Euler, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Ibiza, Majorca, and Benidorm too
I seached all these places
but never found you

DavidM, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

thread title makes it hard to resist 'fine time'

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

The only one I wouldn't vote for is "All The Way".

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

That's the one I'm voting for I think! Or "Run".

I can't remember which some of these are, by title.

Groke, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"Fine Time" - YOU GOT LOVE TECHNIQUE
"All The Way" - IT TOOK YEARS TO FIND THE NERVE TO BE APART FROM WHAT YOU'VE DONE
"Love Less" - I SPENT A LIFETIME WORKING ON YOU AND YOU WON'T EVEN TALK TO ME
"Round and Round" - THE PICTURE YOU SEE IS NO PORTRAIT OF ME
"Guilty Partner" - CUZ I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE YOU MY LOVER
"Run" - SO WHAT'S THE USE OF COMPLAINING WHEN YOU YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED
"Mr. Disco" - I CAN'T FIND MY PIECE OF MIND WITHOUT YOU
"Vanishing Point" - MY LIFE AIN'T NO HOLIDAY
"Dream Attack" - I DON'T BELONG TO NO ONE BUT I WANNA BE WITH YOU

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

(srsly I think this album has the best NO lyrics)

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

the Select music critic (Andrew Harrison?) said, approvingly, that the album was Barney's No Jacket Required.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"Guilty Partner" is just awesome.

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

round and round, for "patty".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVYL14_LMOE

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

all the way all the way!

roxymuzak, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Sixteen-year-old me spent hours puzzling over "parasites and literasites."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Voted "Run" but don't really understand why lots of people consider this their best. For me, it's "Republic" or "Low Life" all the way.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh. Voted Round and Round without a second thought, and upon scrolling down I'm kinda surprised at how many folks agreed.

I eat cannibals, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

imagine what patty's boyfriend is like. some sort of 7 foot tall male model, olympic swimmer secret agent millionaire. now howamigonna compete with that?

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

dream attack vs mr disco = tough. but dream attack.

pisces, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

hey baby
sophisticated lady

The Good Dr. Bill, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

For me it was between Dream Attack and Vanishing Point, but i had to go with Dream Attack in the end.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't do this.

ana, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

It's easier if you just pick "Dream Attack".

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

SUCH a great album from start to end, but it's "Dream Attack" for me.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Though, the opening of "Fine Time" is superfantabuluscious!!!!

Alex in NYC, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Easy poll this one. "Dream Attack" without a doubt

baaderonixx, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow. now THIS is consensus.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Everytime there seems to be major consensus in the thread itself, lurkers come in and bump the vote up for something unexpected.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

hey baby
sophisticated lady

that whole bit would win any poll ever.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 1 October 2007 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

dream attack by far

akm, Monday, 1 October 2007 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

wow. so little love for "vanishing point", a song that still makes me gape, open-mouthed, like a loon.

if i could have a second place, it'd be "run".

grimly fiendish, Monday, 1 October 2007 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

was Technique this loved by fans in 1989?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 1 October 2007 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes.

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I'll probably go with Vanishing Point, though I'm a long way from being sure.

Alba, Monday, 1 October 2007 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

go on.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 1 October 2007 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm worried no one else will vote for Love Less.

Alba, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

you need another login. like this one.

simon, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

NO

Alba, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

mr disco by default

RJG, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"Vanishing Point", just because "Round and Round" will do fine without my help. Toughest ILM poll choice yet. This album is beautiful.

Lostandfound, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

too hard. it's all one record for me.

energy flash gordon, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Easily Vanishing Point for me.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Another for Vanishing Point - c'mon!

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

But, really, greatest overall album by best band ever. Probably.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i think you're probably right.

certainly, for me, it opened up and changed everything ... which was a mixed blessing because although it sent me off searching for guitars and beeps and bleeps and beauty everywhere, i never found anything that quite measured up.

i wore out my vinyl copy. but i MP3d it anyway and it's the one i still listened to, because every scratch and crackle is an essential part of it now ;)

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i think rjg is right, it's 'mr disco', but i already voted 'fine time'.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I went with Guilty Partner in the end. There's something about it.

"I always know that you'll come back to me"

Alba, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Exactly what I was gonna say

baaderonixx, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Listening to it now, it's not making things any easier!

Neil S, Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"Don't waste my money, baby" classic lyric!

Neil S, Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Sunday, 7 October 2007 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

My first ILM poll has been swamped by others. :(

I think Round & Round is still going to win.

Alba, Monday, 8 October 2007 09:52 (fourteen years ago) link

All the way, narrowly from Fine Time and Run.
Just 'cos "it takes years to find the nerve to be apart from what you've done" has always been my personal mantra to overcome that feeling of waking up with an awful hangover and remembering all the humiliating things you said and did the night before.

Jamie T Smith, Monday, 8 October 2007 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I always heard "...a part of what you've done"

baaderonixx, Monday, 8 October 2007 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i think 'vanishing point' will win.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 8 October 2007 10:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmm Hi Dere seems to be with me (almost). I'll listen tonight. I hope it's as I remember it, or it will lose all its soothing power!

Jamie T Smith, Monday, 8 October 2007 10:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I totally voted for Mr. Disco, which is only the coolest song name ever.

King Boy Pato, Monday, 8 October 2007 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link

All the Way takes it for me as well. Late surge?

Neil S, Monday, 8 October 2007 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Voted for "Dream Attack" but I suspect "Round & Round" will win this.

baaderonixx, Monday, 8 October 2007 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

how can you people sleep at night?

ana, Monday, 8 October 2007 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously though, if I REALLY had to choose it would be either "Mr. Disco" or "Dream Attack".

ana, Monday, 8 October 2007 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Prediction:

Round & Round
Vanishing Point
Dream Attack
All the Way
Mr Disco
Run
Fine Time
Guilty Partner
Love Less

Alba, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ana: The solution is to pick "Dream Attack".

HI DERE, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed. If "Dream Attack" fails to take this poll, I'll set myself on fire in protest.

(not really...all nine songs could probably win a poll like this if they were on other albums)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

ceremony / dream attack / regret... all seem to build on each other to me. maybe just because they are guitar-centric

akm, Monday, 8 October 2007 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

all nine songs could probably win a poll like this if they were on other albums

This is very OTM and I don't even like "All The Way" that much.

HI DERE, Monday, 8 October 2007 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

That "Guilty Partner" is the least liked song says volumes about this album's marvelousness.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I am v.surprised by the winner. I don't suppose someone cheated, did they?

Alba, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry - that sounds ungracious. Thank you for voting everyone. I love Fine Time.

Alba, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not surprised. it's the single, and it's dancey. i couldn't see 'round & round' winning. also it's a very close contest.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't like Fine Time :(

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Round & Round was also a single.

Alba, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The spread of votes reflects the greatness of the record.

Neil S, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link

That is a surprise. I feel compelled to link to this review once more:

I am fully prepared to believe the lamb bleating at the end of this track is Christ applauding.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmph:

Melody Maker Review
It begins. It thumps with glee, it swirls with lackadaisical intensity. "You're much too young to be a part of me, you're much too young to get a hold on me." And never have veterans sounded so brilliantly arrogant, masters so eager. Jesus. "Technique" is so effortlessly GREAT, so languidly heroic, so vibrant and thrilling despite itself, that one wishes one could weep. As the Austrian philosopher Rose Royce once commented: "I'm in love (and I love the feeling)." That's what this is like. I first hear it on a train from Waterloo and as the power stations and football pitches fly past, I want to get out and race the train to the sound of this perfect, perfect music. New Order know that the times throw a malfunctioning grey electric blanket over our emotion, but also that the slightest wriggle could be the one to turn it on again. They do this wriggle repeatedly, on every jauntily fatigued song, like they've done it many times before. Only on "Technique", they do it more skilfully and confidently than ever. This leads not to plushness or sumptuousness, but to a tumbling pumping river of their strengths, their weaknesses, their glib grandeur. Never have New Order sounded so little like people from Manchester, so much like gods. It's clear by now that, though they seem able to clean up in any medium, there are two bas(s)ic New Order modes of transportation - the pop one which is like The Cure ripping off New Order, and the disco one which is like Shannon ripping off New Order. Both are severally represented here without any falling between two stools. Their feel is whisker-fine, their surges are princely. Albrecht's fragmented and victimised, but resilient, paper-mache poetry hauls itself up for what stings like one final summation of the shameful agonies of being male, of being prey to love and lust with equal sincerity/severity. Of acknowledging a bewildering sense of futility but still for some reason writing things down. When I say "male" I don't mean to imply that a "female" couldn't have written these simple yearnings and elegies, but that she wouldn't have started from the same angle. Undoubtedly "Technique" is inspired by a vulnerable, peculiarly boyish, somewhat petulant romanticism. from start to finish, from (heart on) sleeve (a cherub) to beaty monster inside. "I can't find you, I can't find my peace of mind without you." As ever New Order temper Barney's pseudo-metaphysical couplets with a deceptive flippancy. (this is what always made them better and deeper than Joy Division.) "Fine Time " bubbles in, fascistically and facetiously making you dance. "Sophisticated lady, you got style and you got class, but most of all..." We strain to hear the punchline. We want to hear the punchline. We need to hear the punchline. "...Love technique." Ah, that'll be the title then. I am fully prepared to believe the lamb bleating at the end of this track is Christ applauding. From then on it's irresistible, New Order marching through eight effervescing asphalt plains. There isn't a sub-GREAT moment to be found. When the majestic swooning "Run" "takes it down" you know that if the modernist ensemble come rushing back in with all swooshes blazing before the song fades, you'll start giggling at how marvellous all this is getting. They do. You do. you're sold. you're buying. You're coming out for spring. "All The Way" is gently awesome, precision guitars and rhythms levitating Albrecht's camp grandiloquence: "It takes years to find the nerve to be apart from what you've done, to find the truth inside yourself and not depend on anyone." There are many confessionals regarding strain, age, doubt, determination. "Love Less" and the probable next single "Round And Round" (a shimmering white funk whirlwind, if whirlwinds can shimmer, which I'm sure they can) build an apposite bridge between sentiment and dynamism. The latter is again evocative of travel, of flirting with life's hugeness. New Order are all about those minutes when you feel like a winning underdog and you knew all along you could do it. Of course, there's some miserablism. The beautiful (no other word) "Vanishing Point" and "Dream Attack" allow the lights up at the end of the party and, well, things are really quite manageable. They don't get morose. They get serene. Authentically. Before this there's a snarling "Guilty Partner", a bloodrush rather self-effacingly called "Mr Disco", and the aforementioned and utterly regal "Run", possibly their most poised and potent sculpure since "Thieves like Us". Play it loud and obsessive. Ultimately New Order are a subjective experience. A hundred lines here provoke productive self-examination and the hygiene of the sound encourages more anima projections than "La Boheme". I'm not being indulgent here (not by my standards) but you should be when you listen to it. And it swings, did I say it swings? "My life ain't no holiday, I've ben through the point of no return. I've seen what the man can do, I've seen all the hate of a woman too." Yes Bernard, we're all growing up. England's finest reluctant pop poet. I mean it. When he hits menopause there'll be a hell of a novel in this man. Meanwhile, the propulsion of the grooves is crisper than ice, more active than anarchy, swaggering on crutches. When New Order are this GREAT, this effortlessly, the rest might as well go home and peel onions or something. "Technique" is the state of the embers of the Eighties, mystique and mistakes merging, kissed by the ruby lips of God. "Technique" is a rare and ravishing triumph.

Chris Roberts

Stevie T, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link

<a href="http://kicktotheego.blogspot.com/2003_06_01_archive.html";>It's hard to read without a break...</a>

Alba, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, well that's sort of better.

Alba, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link

This is perfect

Alba, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:51 (fourteen years ago) link

New Order are all about those minutes when you feel like a winning underdog and you knew all along you could do it.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:52 (fourteen years ago) link

This is utterly OTM

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

so ... is it just me thinks that's a pretty ropey, sub-STUDENT piece of writing (the odd fantastic line, such as the one baaderonixx quotes, excepted)? i agree heartily with the sentiment, but i don't think much of the expression -- par breaks or no.

listened to the album this morning, though. it is approaching my ideal of sonic perfection. i really don't think anything else will ever beat it.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's a really good review. it communicates how good the album is. it doesn't try and contextualize it. it is studenty in a good way. doesn't hedge its bets. sometimes -- not often enough! -- enthusiasm is called for.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

dude. you're talking to the guy who called the wedding present "the most important british rock band of the past 20 years". i know about enthusiasm :)

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I don't know Grimly. I find the enthusiasm in this review quite infectious. Obviously, I'm already drunk on the kool-aid but I'd probably be pretty intrigued if I hadn't heard the album before.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm afraid I may have broken this poll by absentmindedly voting for Fine Time when I meant to vote for Round And Round. Putting three songs on 12 votes.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

STEWARD'S INQUIRY!

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I am fully prepared to believe the lamb bleating at the end of this track is Christ applauding.

!!!

Lostandfound, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

(Assuming it's the Christ I'm thinking of, the review is worth it for this line alone.)

Lostandfound, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

wow great showing for DREAM ATTACK. i'd never have guessed. Tune!

piscesx, Sunday, 1 February 2009 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

I always heard it as “you’ve got a lot of technique”
which actually works a bit better for me
so I think I’m going to keep hearing it that way

thanks

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:21 (one year ago) link

a bit surprised fine time won this actually, but it’s a great opener

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:22 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Maybe you'd write me a letter
And tell me why I never met you
Our rendezvous just ended in sorrow
Without you there's no tomorrow.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 14:48 (one week ago) link

About time for a relisten. (It's weird to realize I'm seeing the current version this year when the last time I saw them was for this tour.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2022 14:51 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I hadn't heard it in ages until a drive home last night. Late Sunday afternoon melancholia + softening weather.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 14:52 (one week ago) link

Bizarre poll order, generally (but not specifically) about the reverse of my order of preference

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:46 (one week ago) link

Bizarre poll triangle

ignore the blue line (or something), Monday, 9 May 2022 20:30 (one week ago) link


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