The Wooden Shjips Thread

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just got... friend described it as "Clinic with the New Wave element replaced by the hippie element" (Hippentium?)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't heard the full length yet but looking forward to it. The latest 7" rocks though...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

I can kinda dig the Doors vibe sometimes, but I like the more manic early records than the album. I would like to see this band live.

mizzell, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Also, I think someone said this before but there was kind of a new zealand xpressway vibe on the 10" that I really liked.

mizzell, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

wait I thought they just had the s/t "debut" - what are these "early records" you refer to

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

they put out a 10" and a 7" that got some people excited. they included a second cd with these recordings with a limited number of the full length cds, I believe.

mizzell, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

there's a second 7" too

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

the food not bombs one? I haven't heard it.

mizzell, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

blood in the streets it's up to my ankles

hstencil, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

The Dance California 7" is worth checking out. "Clouds Over Earthquake" is the one song I've heard by them that I'll still be listening to in ten years.

rockapads, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

saw them on sat. nite for the 1st time...

didn't hear any doors thing (other than the obv. lineup) def. got more of a krauty stooges "sister ray/european son" type vibe going on...

they were pretty solid and tight. drummer was pretty intense on the bass drum, probably ex-metal head.

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Great band. Loved the early releases but could never get my hands on them so the 2cd I ordered from AQ will do nicely.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

The 10" hit the spot. It's kinda how I imagined Endless Boogie to sound.

Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

I imagined Endless Boogie sounding like Status Quo.

mizzell, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Endless Boogie sound like Trad Gras & Canned Heat supersession.

ian, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Endless Boogie are WAAAAY better, and I think Wooden Shjips rule mightily

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pissed that I missed these guys at the Fuck Yeah fest.

I eat cannibals, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard such a straight-faced Spacemen 3 ripoff band in my life.

This is not necessarily a bad thing.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

^^^That was my reaction when I first heard Wooden Shjips. That's not all they've got going on, though.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

granted I'm going on the half dozen songs I've listened to so far

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

they don't have many more!

mizzell, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

^^^That was my reaction when I first heard Wooden Shjips. That's not all they've got going on, though.

Yeah, they also rip-off Loop. But again, that ain't a bad thing at all.

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm unfamiliar with Loop... I think what really put the Spacemen 3 connection over the top was the fact that this guy sounds JUST LIKE Pete Kember with his lazy vocal timbre, and uses basically the same vocal-reverb effects setup.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

I listened to the album all the way trough for the first time this morning. It's boring.

mizzell, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

I like it alright but the bonus disc is MUCH better

dmr, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

It's like a more irie Spacemen 3. I like both of these discs.
I'm a big pothead, too.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Bonus disc is better, agreed.

I think they need a new bass player actually. The Can-style 2 note grooves are good but dude has all kinds of rhythm problems and could stand to be a tad more adventerous...

But overall, I dig the album. The length is good too.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard such a straight-faced Spacemen 3 ripoff band in my life.

Ever heard the Colorsound album You're Only As Good As Your Sound? released on Sub Pop subsidiary Summershine, it is a total S3 ripoff and is great to boot.

sleeve, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

I want to like this band more than I do. There is just something lacking. I think it might be the bass player as mentioned above. I like the last few tracks on their full length better than the first few.

rockapads, Saturday, 29 September 2007 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

yeah, so, is there any way to tell the difference between the single and double cd versions of the holy mountain release? i'm more in it for the bonus cd than the album itself.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 18 October 2007 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sure in stores. I ordered mine from Amazon before I knew about the bonus CD. I checked it only said "1 disc", but it came with the second disc anyway. The second disc comes in a separate cardboard sleeve, if that helps at all.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 18 October 2007 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

they are playing in brooklyn on 10/19, I think I will check them out.

mizzell, Thursday, 18 October 2007 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

The second disc comes in a separate cardboard sleeve, if that helps at all.

that does help, cheers.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 18 October 2007 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

didn't hear any doors thing (other than the obv. lineup) def. got more of a krauty stooges "sister ray/european son" type vibe going on...
this is true, but i thought the drummer was the weak link. the songs are very driving and a bit more propulsion from the kit would put them over the edge. pretty fun show.

mizzell, Saturday, 20 October 2007 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

WTB a new rhythm section for Wooden Shjips!

rockapads, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I saw them in Oakland a couple weeks ago and their live show is so much better than this new record. I also prefer the second disc of older material to the overly produced stuff.

oscar, Saturday, 20 October 2007 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

there's no fucking doors in the album at all. you know what there's a shitload of? rallizes. seriously, listen to the vocals, especially the effects and the kind of clipped and tuneless muttering, and listen to the way the songs kind of plod along until suddenly a big fuzzy guitar bit comes in. the production's obviously cleaner, but it's total apeage/homage. could almost be a different band to the bonus disc stuff (which i found, yay).

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 17 November 2007 08:33 (twelve years ago) link

do i need this album? or can i live without it. record store still has the 2 disc cd version.

scott seward, Saturday, 17 November 2007 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

need, probably not. but i got a used copy w/bonus disc and i like it enough. in fact, i liked the bonus disc much more (shakey mo and trip maker are pretty right-on about the songs on that) than the album, but the album's definitely growing on me. i don't know, do you need american rallizes?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 17 November 2007 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna revive this thread by saying Wooden Shjips vs High Tide

the first track, "We Ask You to Ride" is the only one where i really hear the Doors. dude totally sounds like jim and that organ. rest of it, not so much.

jaxon, Saturday, 17 November 2007 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

We Ask You To Ride

jaxon, Saturday, 17 November 2007 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

haha! i was just listening to that video and wifee asked me if it was the Doors. unprompted!

jaxon, Saturday, 17 November 2007 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

and just for fun, a live version of Wooden Ships by CSN&Y
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a0P_cviczko

jaxon, Saturday, 17 November 2007 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

there's no fucking doors in the album at all

That's patently untrue. I'm still debating it: I kinda like it anyway, despite hating the Doors. Jaxon's right, though, it is pretty much concentrated in the first track.

emil.y, Saturday, 17 November 2007 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

"patently untrue" my ass. NO DOORS! organ /= equal doors!

Wooden Shjips vs High Tide

high tide by a country mile.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 18 November 2007 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

it's not just the organ, dude. that voice on the first song is totally jim. and the reason i compared high tide is because that dude sounds like morrison too.

jaxon, Sunday, 18 November 2007 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

Psych bands inspired by The Doors >>>> The Doors

This has always been true.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 18 November 2007 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

uuu_uuu

W4LTER, Sunday, 18 November 2007 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

the alb totally reminded me of the doors too, fwiw

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 18 November 2007 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

hey, you know what? the s/t is really good for late night driving. especially track 3. suddenly the weirdly skeletal production makes sense (i can't think of a 'psych' band with 4 members who sound more minimal than these dudes) and the organ really comes to the fore. it's almost neu!-like, but not really sounding like them at all.

7" on sub pop also real good. i think the b is my favorite shjips jam.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

nice LZII vibe on the sleeve

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:42 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this is apparently a big crossover album? people sure are up and down on the wooden shjips.

special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:17 (six years ago) link

lol crossover ... to where?

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:21 (six years ago) link

it's gonna be HUGE.
i like this new one a lot, their progress into being a straightforward rock band has been surprisingly successful, imo.
there are a few big Neil Young moments on this one.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:22 (six years ago) link

"a rock audience" (rather than?) i dunno. i saw they have won over dero http://www.wbez.org/blogs/jim-derogatis/2013-09/rim-shots-willis-earl-beal-bongos-and-wooden-shjips-108713

Consider this an early head’s up: The album won’t be released by Chicago’s beloved Thrill Jockey until November 12, but I haven’t been able to stop listening since I downloaded the advance a few weeks ago, and you need to know about these timeless, hypnotic, swirling, psychedelic melodies now. The San Francisco quartet has been recording since the mid-2000s—giant slabs of dark mystery built on the familiar elements of droning organ, fuzzed-out guitar, whispered vocals, and insistent, metronomic drums—in the grand tradition of the Velvet Underground to the Dream Syndicate and Spacemen 3 to the Black Angels. But after going back and devouring the back catalog, I can say they’ve never been as consistent, entrancing, necessary, and just plain perfect as they are on these eight new jams.

i bought a ticket to the record release show as soon as i saw crazy horse. i liked them enough in their previous state, but i'll pay $14 to see a cut rate crazy horse.

special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:25 (six years ago) link

I just can't picture these guys as a mainstream rock act. granted I haven't heard the new one but...

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:27 (six years ago) link

i didn't even know there was a rock mainstream anymore tbh
it seems ridic to think that the shjips are gonna blow up the charts but who knows
i just want to hear some lumbering jams

special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:28 (six years ago) link

xp "mainstream" is stretching it -- what's a mainstream rock act these days, anyway? kings of leon or something?

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:30 (six years ago) link

anyhoo, w/ the neil young stuff, the last song on the new shjips sounds like an homage to this deep cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc65mHWrS1k

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:31 (six years ago) link

well, yeah - Kings of Leon. uh the Black Keys I guess?

these guys just seem off in their own little world, completely insulated from larger market trends. which is fine, that's how I like it for the most part.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:34 (six years ago) link

Arcade Fire, are they a rock band?

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:34 (six years ago) link

ha! crossover.

i'm excited for this. Shjips + CAVE for that release show has me looking at bus tickets & times and trying to make that trip.

dronestreet, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:50 (six years ago) link

huh didn't know Interstate was a Ragged Glory outtake

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:54 (six years ago) link

that version i posted is actually the int'l harvesters version from 85ish, but yeah, he recorded it for ragged glory (and then for whatever reason, put it out on the vinyl broken arrow). definitely one of his best "unknown" songs.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:59 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Streaming in full here: http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2013/nov/04/wooden-shjips-back-to-land-album-stream

dronestreet, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:58 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEsuD_K4sUU

du mein bestie (micarl), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:18 (six years ago) link

ripley seems like a super nice dude from that video, wkiw, but the show friday did not electrify me
i think they suffered from overly good opening bands tbh

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 20:51 (six years ago) link

Wanted to come up for that show really bad, but had to work. Assuming that they followed CAVE, which would be tough. Really liking the new record though.

dronestreet, Monday, 11 November 2013 20:52 (six years ago) link

Bobby Matador from Oneida with some measured half-praise: http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/bobby-matador-wooden-shjips

dronestreet, Monday, 11 November 2013 20:53 (six years ago) link

They not only followed CAVE, but they followed Rabble Rabble, whose drummer is so fun to watch and so good. I feel like they almost didn't stand a chance even though they weren't at all bad or anything like that. They were quite buoyant, really. I just wasn't feeling it too strongly. I'll admit that I left after 4 songs. Maybe it got super incredible after that, dunno.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 21:03 (six years ago) link

cave would probably be the worst band to have to follow

tylerw, Monday, 11 November 2013 21:07 (six years ago) link

this was the first band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyXQIgjhh_8

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 21:09 (six years ago) link

haha wow yeah she is good

fingertapping on the end there a little regrettable but otherwise sweet!

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 November 2013 23:18 (six years ago) link

someone tweeted an in-the-flesh picture of the new album today - not a massive fan but this thing looks great:

https://twitter.com/dannykellywords/status/399906456939405314

gotta lol geir (NickB), Monday, 11 November 2013 23:36 (six years ago) link

Was annoyed to see it in Rough Trade East last night (the version with the bonus 7"). Got mine sent from Thrill Jockey to my Sister-In-Law's in the US, thinking only TJ would have the bonus 7" & their shipping to the UK being more hideous than it should be. Oh well, I did get a bonus iTunes download of one of the 7" tracks...which is only valid in the US store.

Wandering Boy Poet, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 12:58 (six years ago) link

Feel like this band is everything I hate about psych rock, just like long boring songs with no energy and standard psych guitar solos.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:50 (six years ago) link

so what do you like about psych rock

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 18:00 (six years ago) link

very possible i just like long boring songs with no energy and standard psych guitar solos.
i dunno, i get what you mean, but for whatever reason i always enjoy wooden shjips

tylerw, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 18:04 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

is this west coast tour any good?

thinking about seeing them saturday night but was not impressed with "west" and have not heard "back to land"

the late great, Friday, 24 January 2014 23:43 (six years ago) link

bump

the late great, Saturday, 25 January 2014 20:52 (six years ago) link

i meant to respond to this before but i forgot
the show i saw was merely ok. as i mentioned, the opening bands were hard to follow, and the shjips formula sounded overly evident by the time they went on, but that might not be their fault. i did start to get the suspicion that their new album was overhyped by people who don't listen to a lot of music like this (so it sounded more interesting to them than it did to me).

not a bad time, but not mind blowing by any stretch.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Saturday, 25 January 2014 20:59 (six years ago) link

i did start to get the suspicion that their new album was overhyped by people who don't listen to a lot of music like this (so it sounded more interesting to them than it did to me).

It's enjoyable, but I think this suspicion is spot on. 'Back to Land' seems to be the one that has broken through to some critics who believe they've stumbled upon something great and obscure, and thus are pumping it up as better than their earlier stuff, i.e. "Wooden Shjips have finally put it all together," so they don't appear late to the game.

alpine static, Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:11 (six years ago) link

they've jumped the shark after vol. 2 huh

the late great, Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:20 (six years ago) link

Nah west and dos are great. But at this point I think I prefer moon duo.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 25 January 2014 22:21 (six years ago) link

^ otm

alpine static, Sunday, 26 January 2014 01:13 (six years ago) link

I thought vol 2 came out after dos

tbh not crazy about west

the late great, Sunday, 26 January 2014 01:23 (six years ago) link

Everything I've heard by these guys was perfectly enjoyable but sounded pretty much the same. I saw them open on the Pavement reunion tour and everyone in the crowd hated them, so I made a point of cheering as loud as I could - probably the moment I felt most positively disposed to WS.

a man with legs made of sausages - that's not real! (seandalai), Sunday, 26 January 2014 02:24 (six years ago) link

they've jumped the shark after vol. 2 huh

― the late great, Saturday, 25 January 2014

this is my assessment, with the caveat that I think a lot of the creative energy has gone into Moon Duo

sleeve, Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:07 (six years ago) link

Back to Land sounded really formulaic to me; there was only one,song that stood out to me and I don't remember the name of it rn

West was not that much better but at least the two best songs were first and thereby easy to find

stop ingesting (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:19 (six years ago) link

I prolley need to hear early WS tho fer sure. Loved their Snapper cover

Moon Duo is cool but uneven too; Circles was p great but I thought Mazes was drastically overrated. Probably my favorite thing Ripley has done was MD's Escape EP

stop ingesting (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 26 January 2014 03:22 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

this new one is stellar- dreamy and floaty, a mode i haven't picked up on in them prior. will sound good on a hot afternoon in the backyard

global tetrahedron, Friday, 25 May 2018 19:22 (two years ago) link

this is still my favorite work of theirs- i don't have a ton of use for their middle period, it seems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1YoLJajtAE

global tetrahedron, Friday, 25 May 2018 19:27 (two years ago) link

I find them a bit hit & miss, but the new one sounds good. Hopefully they'll come out on tour

Duke, Saturday, 26 May 2018 13:52 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

new great ‘rural psych’ record, S/T ‘Rose City Band’. not much info about them otherwise. is this the shjips pretending to be a different band?

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:55 (one year ago) link

hmmmm

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:58 (one year ago) link

Produced and recorded by Ripley Johnson

this actually calls it a side project fwiw

https://www.reddit.com/r/psychedelicrock/comments/bsnmat/rose_city_band_wandering_feeling_new_side_project/

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:00 (one year ago) link

definitely ripley singing / playing guitar, not sure who else is in the band ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:17 (one year ago) link

Nice! Reminds me of Natural Child and their "Okey Dokey" LP

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 20:32 (one year ago) link

is the pronunciation shyps or ships?

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 31 May 2019 22:26 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I love this Rose City Band album. It really is a perfect summer record, so warm. I haven't paid much attention to the Wooden Shjips universe, but this made me go back to some of their stuff and also to Moon Duo. I like his whole vibe.


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