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Sex Pistols to make live comeback

The Sex Pistols first reformed for their Filthy Lucre tour in 1996
Punk legends The Sex Pistols have announced a concert to mark the 30th anniversary of the release of their seminal album Never Mind the Bollocks.
Original members John Lydon, Steve Jones, Paul Cook and Glen Matlock will play at the Brixton Academy in London on 8 November.

The group, who split in 1978, first reformed for a world tour in 1996 and last performed together in 2003.

Tickets, costing £37.50, go on sale at 0900 BST on Friday.

Never Mind The Bollocks... Here's The Sex Pistols, which included God Save the Queen and Anarchy in the UK, caused uproar when it was released in October 1977.

Single campaign
But it was one of the defining records of the punk movement and is now recognised as one of the most influential albums in rock history.

It is to be reissued to tie in with the anniversary, and four singles - God Save the Queen, Anarchy in the UK, Pretty Vacant and Holidays In The Sun - will be re-released on vinyl.

The NME magazine is running a campaign to get God Save the Queen to number one in the UK after it missed out first time around.

It was originally banned by the BBC and ended up reaching number two at the time of the Queen's silver jubilee - although some theories say the chart was manipulated to avoid embarrassment.


Mark G, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Wonder if Stuart Pearce will introduce them on stage again?

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

.. (and here was me expecting someone to post the classic care-ometer)

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't even care enough to post the classic care-ometer

Tom D., Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:12 (fourteen years ago) link

careometer careometer

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:12 (fourteen years ago) link

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/5115T680ZCL._AA280_.jpg

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:13 (fourteen years ago) link

No Future: A Retrospective

moley, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 11:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Special 30th Anniversary Edition of 'Never Mind The Bollocks' - FREE with The Sunday Times.

King Boy Pato, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ho hum. Seems like someone's rent must be due.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I heard that at their last show, he forgot the words during the opening song.

Joe, Friday, 26 October 2007 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Everybody had a good time on the 'Daydream Nation' tour though, right?

Soukesian, Friday, 26 October 2007 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I wanna be anarchy

This LP is playing on my turntable and NOT YOURS!
What is WRONG WITH YOU?

Get the goddamn BOLLOCKS into your life already

Bimble, Sunday, 24 February 2008 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

At least you didn't spell it BULLOCKS. Those pesky cattle, just ignore them, maybe they'll go away

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 24 February 2008 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I still want a bigger version of that picture, 5 posts up!

Mark G, Sunday, 24 February 2008 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://eil.com/newGallery/Sex-Pistols-Flogging-A-Dead-H-323784.jpg

I remember seeing this album in the import section of the local record shop(s). I never bought it. Did I miss out?

Dracula Tells Superman What To Do (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 11 October 2008 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Assuming this isn't an ironic question, no, you didn't particularly miss out. There are better greatest hits compilations, notably 'Kiss this' but the hits are still great. Look for the 'Spunk' demos, or any just about any early live bootleg. Contrary to publicity, the early Pistols line-up were a cracking live act.

Soukesian, Sunday, 12 October 2008 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Kiss This is indeed the best comp, has pretty much everything

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 12 October 2008 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

If you've only heard 'bollocks', you have to hear the b-sides of the early singles. Shockingly brilliant stuff.

Soukesian, Sunday, 12 October 2008 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

still loads of twats walking around in big ol baggy flared pants and dudes with long hair. might well have not even bothered.

stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Sunday, 12 October 2008 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

... what an atrocious idea

rjberry, Sunday, 12 October 2008 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

j/k

stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Sunday, 12 October 2008 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

i just saw glen matlock play in denver! kind of random, my friend dragged me along, he was opening for hugh cornwell. it was fun! clem burke from blondie on drums, small faces and monkees covers, "god save the queen". ended up vomiting due to some kind of 24 hour stomach virus later that night, but it felt appropriate somehow.

tylerw, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:39 (ten years ago) link

3 year xpost, but I really love Flogging, and it has No One Is Innocent, which I totally love (Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs on vocals). And if you get that, you kind of have to get the Die Toten Hosen answer song, also with Biggs, "Punk Was," which is like the great lost Sex Pistols song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rQurYKnTxw

At this point, I probably prefer Flogging to Never Mind...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:14 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

finally saw the Never Mind The Bollocks episode of VH1 Classic Albums -- it must drive them nuts to this day to even have to talk about McLaren when they talk about that album, or talk about him at all, as though he "helped" get it made, or "helped" them do anything. It's lucky that they were so good from so early on, that there were people other than McLaren who could help them. It really makes you wonder what would have happened if Matlock had stayed in the band. Lol they might've just broken up on their own anyway.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:23 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150610/v2fa5p2x.png

meisenfek, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 22:10 (seven years ago) link

:(

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:19 (seven years ago) link

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

JRN, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:36 (seven years ago) link

millennials idk

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Tee he. This is a great cosmic joke.

Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 07:58 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, it's like ironic innit?
A 2nd punchline to calling the reunion tour Filthy Lucre.
& I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads. & now almost 40 years later there's more focus on electronic financial exchange so this is somewhat logical.

But yeah they were pretty formidable when they had Glen Matlock onboard early on

Stevolende, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 09:44 (seven years ago) link

I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads.

That particular song was written and recorded about 18 months after Lydon had quit, a year after the first PiL record, and a few months after Sid Vicious was in his grave. It's part of the McLaren/Temple/Jones/Cook retrospective self-glorification cash-in that Lydon despises. I don't know anything about the Visa cards or why they are made but they seem to be on that continuum, rather than reflecting anything to do with the original band. Of course, that is part of their story too so who cares really?

everything, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Lydon has uh historically been a-ok w self-glorifying cash-ins.

and he's usually snarkily up-front about it! Insisting on calling PiL a corporation and not a band etc.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Someone on Twitter came up with the perfect slogan: "You don't know what you want but you know how to get it: the Sex Pistols Virgin MasterCard."

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:02 (seven years ago) link

haha stealing that

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:03 (seven years ago) link

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in... what's in your wallet?

brimstead, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:59 (seven years ago) link

Anarchy In The AMEX

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:25 (seven years ago) link

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

AND I'M STILL BUYING

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:46 (seven years ago) link

NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
BECAUSE OF MY WEALTH
MY BEAUTIFUL WEALTHY!!!

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:30 (seven years ago) link

this thread is turning into a cheap holiday in other people's usury

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:05 (seven years ago) link

maybe unfair

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150611/t2nbuwlz.png

meisenfek, Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:00 (seven years ago) link

Let's face it: in the long run, punk rock has really failed at most of which it apparently set out to do, didn't it?

didn't *hasn't

oh i dunno.

hongro strulkington (dog latin), Thursday, 11 June 2015 11:17 (seven years ago) link

What did it apparently set out to do?

Willibald Pirckheimers Briefwechsel (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2015 11:32 (seven years ago) link

It set out to destroy the passer-by

Mark G, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:19 (seven years ago) link

well in that it succeeded. or did it? have your say in the comments

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:26 (seven years ago) link

when the kids fly United, the airfares will be divided.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:32 (seven years ago) link

p much every musical movement "fails" at achieving non-musical goals

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:33 (seven years ago) link

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

― JRN, Tuesday, June 9, 201

Urban Outfitter shoppers.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:44 (seven years ago) link

New vinyl boxset of 1976 concerts:
4th June – 1976: Lesser Free Trade Hall, Manchester
29th August – 1976: Screen on the Green, Islington
17th September 1976: HM Prison, Chelmsford
25th September – 1976: 76 Club, Burton on Trent

Probably no band ever been so well documented live (except Grateful Dead obv) so for diehards only I guess. First two mostly for historical documentation purposes. Chelmsford recording is great quality - the best recording of the Matlock era, and I don't think has been officially released with all it's tracks in the right order and without overdubs (but probably has), so that's good.

everything, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:47 (six years ago) link

The 4cd box is £30, which seems steep..

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:23 (six years ago) link

Oh, didn't notice it was on CD. That's better. But yeah, silly price for CDs considering everyone who's likely to care has already heard it all before.

everything, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:31 (six years ago) link

The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:59 (six years ago) link

Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:38 (six years ago) link

Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:39 (six years ago) link

it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:17 (six years ago) link

Those are all on Kiss This

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:28 (six years ago) link

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 08:35 (six years ago) link

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 09:01 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?

https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 22:29 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM

MaresNest, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:39 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:45 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I

Stevolende, Sunday, 2 August 2020 07:55 (one year ago) link

Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.

birdistheword, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:50 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 10:29 (two weeks ago) link

Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 11:15 (two weeks ago) link

did anyone watch Pistol yet?

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:52 (two weeks ago) link

about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.
I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.
It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:59 (two weeks ago) link

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:02 (two weeks ago) link

the steve jones book is very readable

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:11 (two weeks ago) link

Viv Albertine's first book is really good and has a different perspective on some of the characters here than I've heard elsewhere. Sid actually seems human.
Might make an interesting series if people get into doing things like this. But definitely one of the best memoirs I've read, think not just of this era.
Jordan's was quite good too.
NOt sure about John's 2 and has been a while since I read them.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

What about Glen Matlock’s book?

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (two weeks ago) link

xxxp kind of weird thing, in that Hynde was supposedly an advisor at some point, according to an article I read?

it did very much feel like they needed some hook to hang a second-party perspective on, and they decided to set her up as this lingering love interest/moral support for Jones's character

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (two weeks ago) link

Jones seems a much more sympathetic character than Lydon, for what that's worth. And I've always been impressed that he robbed Bowie's touring gear.

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:22 (two weeks ago) link

i thoroughly enjoyed Pistol although a big part of that was enjoying the level of detail the production design dept went to - eg the '75 Hawkwind gig Steve Jones was robbing equipment from, the interior of 'Sex', the 'Grundy' scene etc.

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

i wondered about this as i had previously had no idea she had such a big role in the proceedings. i guess she didn't!

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

Her arse cheek is among those photographed in the Sex group photo I think.
& I know she was around trying to get bands together at the time. But yeah does seem to have had her role specific to teh Pistols increased i think.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:29 (two weeks ago) link

she did work at sex alongside jordan and was for a time an item w/jones -- who clearly holds her in much affection and says they remain (as of 2017) on good terms. he also says it's why sid attacked a subsequent hynde bf who (acc.jones) treated her badly = nick kent. so there is a kind of a beefable-uppable plot throughline

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:32 (two weeks ago) link

the wild thing about that Lydon interview that xyzzzz__ posted is that he sounds exactly like the character in the show

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:33 (two weeks ago) link

xp definitely. Jones admitted as much saying they "showbizzed up" her role to make the show more "interesting." They were definitely a couple but for a very brief time. I won't spoil the show for anyone, but it also shows her having a big role in some significant events when she had absolutely no involvement whatsoever.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

"We'll always have Huddersfield"

indeed!

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:53 (two weeks ago) link

I'm surprised Boyle has managed to make something quite fun and watchable out of this. He even includes a scene where McLaren seals his own fate by bashing holes into some asbestos tiles, which was kind of simultaneously grim and lol!

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

I had a brief "oh god, is that.." moment when noticing who was cast as Vivienne Westwood

yes, that is Talulah Riley who was married to Elon Musk, twice!

kind of funny that she's playing a character who's partnered with huckster and sensationalist Malcom McLaren

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:01 (two weeks ago) link

I know old John has endorsed Trump and all, and may be too much with us in other ways, but, as someone who's seen other people deal with this, and done so myself, may have to do so again, I can see he's learned some things:

John Lydon said his mental health took a beating over the last three years spent caring full-time for his 78-year-old wife.

Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.

“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”

He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.

“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."


https://www.homecare.co.uk/news/article.cfm/id/1648120/Sex-Pistols-John-Lydon-became-wifes-carer-after-dementia-made-her-forget-everything-but-me

dow, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:10 (two weeks ago) link

Halfway through the series and enjoying it, I mean it's basically The Young Ones, but it's a lot of fun.

Only nitpicking this because it is an oddly weird and specific detail about poor Pete Ham from Badfinger having hung himself in the lock-up in Denmark Mews, pretty sure that's not correct.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

i googled that while watching that episode and fwiw the internet thinks it is correct, although it didn't specify it was the exact same lock-up.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:33 (two weeks ago) link

I find this very funny pic.twitter.com/RC2XIuBKnf

— Michael M (@michaelmphysics) June 15, 2022

Chris L, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

Got the band confused, that's the Stooges did that.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:36 (two weeks ago) link

Or that is to say that there is a story repeated in a number of places that the Stooges filled a US highway with the contents of their equipment van by doing that. Picking a bridge too low to accommodate the height of the truck at speed.

Roger Moore does even worse to a bus in Live and Let Die too.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:09 (two weeks ago) link

LMAO.

Also, it's pretty fucking bizarre to see the Disney logo attached to the Sex Pistols and not be a joke like Who Killed Bambi?.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:09 (two weeks ago) link

We found out who killed Bambi...

Shush! No spoilers please!

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:51 (two weeks ago) link

after all, it was you and me

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:23 (two weeks ago) link

double-decker bus

Creature Catcher (Live) (morrisp), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:30 (two weeks ago) link

Started watching

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:41 (two weeks ago) link

i am only couple eps in and it is the dumbest fun I have had in a while

like veracity & timelines are loose to nonexistent but the ~vibes~ are v good idk i am enjoying it more than i expected

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:34 (two weeks ago) link

Xp did think the same re Disney logo. Then thought well they own everything now don't they. Or something to that effect.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

But it is watchable.

& Young Ones had just been mentioned so yeah made that connection too.

Was this filmed in Cardiff or just being promoted there? There's a sign towards the beginning.

Stevolende, Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:18 (two weeks ago) link

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

The Pistols are all Disney Princes now.

The amount of cgi alteration of the period streetscapes is kinda mind-boggling too.

They used one of my favourite little buildings in London as Glitterbest's offices (Elms Lesters Painting Rooms) but they changed the frontage and made it look even grottier - it's already in a little narrow back passage -

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 June 2022 09:47 (two weeks ago) link


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