BOB DYLAN NEW MORNING C/D

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really though

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

really?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

easily one of my favorite bob albums....

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"If Dogs Run Free": funniest Dylan song ever or just the most painful?

kiss out the jams, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

the part where he goes "saw the sun come up on that little minnesota tooooooowwn...that liiiitle miiinesooota tooown!" part gets me crunk if i've had a few..home pride!

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

aaaand the locusts sang!

best bob drinking album actually...

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

^ yes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

if dogs run free i can hang with, it's a little goofy but don't hate on winterlude!

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

"Father Of Night" is a hypnotic lil' ditty...if it were several times longer, it would be an Ibiza classic...

"The Man In Me" is the best drinking song on the record...(The Big Lebowski reinforced that)...

henry s, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

the part where he goes "saw the sun come up on that little minnesota tooooooowwn...that liiiitle miiinesooota tooown!" part gets me crunk if i've had a few..home pride!

Me too! I also love the part, where he speeds up and says, "'How are you?' he said to me, I said it back to him."

And,

"And she began to shout,
'Go on back to see the gypsy.
He can move you from the rear,
Drive you from your fear,
Bring you through the mirror.
He did it in Las Vegas,
And he can do it here.'"

QuantumNoise, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the beat to gypsy is all weird, i always wonder if it's in some odd time signature, but i don't now shit about theory...

yeah the las vegas thing is so random, very ominous like vegas is the hardest place to do some witchy stuff, this shit will seem like a preseason game after that...

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

This album has his best piano playing. I love those runs after singing the chorus of "Day of the Locusts."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

allmusic suggests that went to see the gypsy is about elvis! huh...i didn't get that at all.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

also: charlie daniels is on this record. the more you know (TM)

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

allmusic suggests that went to see the gypsy is about elvis! huh...i didn't get that at all.

it makes me think of gurdjieff having a meeting in a hotel, the way he did in new york in the 40s.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 17 September 2007 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

classic! one of the odder Dylan albums, for sure. Doesn't seem that way at first, but there's a definite strange-ness going on here that's unique to his catalog. also, there are some interesting outtakes from these sessions -- "Sign On The Window" with a big orchestral backing, solo piano version of "Spanish Is The Loving Tongue," electric piano-led "Gypsy." It deserves a deluxe edition that it'll probably never get ...

tylerw, Monday, 17 September 2007 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

it's so loosey goosey, one of the most fun dylan records.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

what's funny is reading Al Kooper's recollections of the making of the record -- how Dylan sort of obsessed over the whole thing and kept changing his mind and generally drove Kooper nuts! Very un-Dylanesque. And yet it still sounds so ramshackle, or loosey goosey as you say.

tylerw, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

huh that really surprises me...it feels really off the cuff almost like parts of the basement tapes where you can tell they are just feeling their way through the song or something...that's strange to hear that it was fussed over.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

to me it's a funnier, looser Low, in which a great singer/songwriter says fuck-all to concepts, relies on the mundanities (babies, Elvis, etc), and throws a buncha songs together on which he plays a dispropotionate number of instruments.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

It deserves a deluxe edition that it'll probably never get ...

The CD sounds like garbage. I love the woody, warm sound of the LP.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

translation: you are right. I would love a deluxe reissue.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i've seen a new vinyl pressing of it for sale..i have a good shape vers. of the old vinyl and it sound great.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

The chapter in Chronicles that deals (kinda tangentially) with this album is great as well.

tylerw, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a second-tier bob album for me. which makes it still pretty great. i've always heard "gypsy" is about the maharishi (sort of a "sexy sadie part ii".)

tipsy mothra, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Nah, "Gypsy" isn't mean at all (as "Sadie" rightfully was), and there's no way Dylan was gonna rep for the Maharishi in late 1970. . . .

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the gypsy is pretty clearly a charlatan. but it's true that whoever he is, dylan seems more amused by him than disgusted.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Any love for Time Passes Slowly? I like the sorta climax where the guitar is 'soloing' over those blocked piano chords

dally, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

I bought this on vinyl for $2 today.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd totally forgotten I started this thread. I was like "how obnoxious that this title is in all caps how presumptuous of the thread-starter that his thread is so fucking impor-- oh."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

new morning is important! $2 is great if it was in decent condition.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

so good

admrl, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

I bow to the Bob canon and all, but this is my personal fave of his, if only because it was the only Dylan album my father owned (I'm guessing he bought it for "If Not for You") and I heard it a kabillion times throughout my childhood. And it's not just nostalgia, I still love it, from first to last. "Time Passes Slowly," "Day of the Locusts," "Went to See the Gypsy" (swinging little number, that), "If Dogs Run Free," title track, "Father of Night," all good. Even quasi-cheeseball stuff like "Winterlude"--I love it when he calls her "my little apple."

In re "Gypsy," I've heard variously that it's about Elvis, the Maharishi, and Allen Ginsberg. Still waiting on the definitive word on that.

DLee, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

Changing of the Guard?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

OH sorry that's STREET LEGAL

the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

I am literally listening to this lp for the first time right now, I bought it on Sunday

somewhat shocking that I'd never heard of this album before I looked up what record "The Man In Me" was on! guess it's like Neil Young, he's got so many good-to-great records it's hard for them to all get mentioned ....

dmr, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

love this one and best bob drinking album actually... is totally otm.

will, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Can someone who was there, so to speak, tell me what the reception to this album was like when it was released? i've heard conflicting reports.

myndbloom, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

This was the first of several thank-god-Bob's-back publicity events. It sold well. The early seventies were a strange transitional time; NM and Planet Waves are not among his well-known albums. I like them as minor records with several great cuts apiece.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

i certainly wasn't there, but the impression i get from a collection of critical essays and reviews (i'll try to find a link. can't remember the official title) i read a few years ago was since it came on the heels (like just a few months?) of the dissappointing Self Portrait, some fans & critics were pleased to have a "proper" record with some strong songs in his "normal" voice. OTOH it also seemed a lot of the fanatics were angry he hadn't followed up on the promise of Blonde on Blonde and was content to be "domesticated Bob" rather than some sort of emblem of the counter-culture. Chronicles Vol 1 and I'm Not There touch on this, even if they don't directly reference New Morning.

will, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

The chapter in Chronicles that deals (kinda tangentially) with this album is great as well.

-- tylerw, Monday, September 17, 2007 3:01 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link

or maybe Chronicles did?

will, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

this A.J. Weberman dude was pretty cracked:
http://expectingrain.com/dok/who/w/webermanaj.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Weberman

will, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

i've definitely read about the comparisons it faced alongside Self-Portrait, which came out what, 4 months prior? i guess i'm just curious about the general public's reaction. Critics seemed pretty divided between "return to form" & "boring, lackluster". It's really not important, i just have a personal fascination with the context of albums that came out long before i was born. Especially ones i really like.

myndbloom, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

still love this. yeah honestly maybe it is a "minor" album but that's why i like it so. it doesn't feel bogged down by history or expectations or anything.

is street legal worth getting?

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

it doesn't feel bogged down by history or expectations or anything.

yeah exactly, it's like bob put out this little personal thing in hopes people might get it as *him* instead of one of the many masks he wore over the years

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Calling a record "minor" is not insulting.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Street Legal is definitely worth getting. I don't understand why it has a mediocre reputation. Mediocre for Dylan, maybe, but still really good. He still plays a bunch of these songs live.

Euler, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sure what I think about New Morning, though. Minor is probably the best way to put it. I hate hate hate "If Dogs Run Free". I don't listen to the album very often, but it's not an embarrassment.

I have never heard Self-Portrait but I would like to. I know "All The Tired Horses" and like it a lot.

Euler, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

self portrait ain't bad. i always liked his cover of "Gotta Travel On" and Gordon Lightfoot's "Early Morning Rain." In fact, all the covers except for "The Boxer" are at least interesting, if memory serves. and there's a ramshackle (possibly live?) "Quinn the Eskimo"

will, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

im a big fan of self portrait and new morning...

even winterlude and the simon and garfunkel cover

bb, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'm more just surprised at the kind of shit people have stashed away, forgotten.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 15:54 (six years ago) link

Some of these bootleggers, they make pretty good stuff
Plenty of places to hide things here if you wanna hide ’em bad enough

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:05 (six years ago) link

haaa

The "holy shit" is really at the find, as a life-long garage saler and trawler of junk bins. That "I've found the mother lode" moment. Clearly this was not a dollar-bin scenario but still, the idea that there is treasure out there not-yet-found is pretty awesome.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 16:41 (six years ago) link

thing this, as the post notes, columbia/sony probably already has masters of all this stuff, from which the stuff on "another self portrait" was selected.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 22:54 (six years ago) link

yeah and even the stuff he mentions as unreleased is out there in various forms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6r1i-aNWbg
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/08/15/bob-dylan-tomorrow-is-a-long-time-new-morning-outtake-1970/
still I'd be interested to see if anything cool turns up as he goes through it all.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 23:02 (six years ago) link

but yeah, truly amazing that this stuff was just sitting around!

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 23:06 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

so much lovely guitar playing on this record

even the acoustic guitars go figure

j., Thursday, 15 March 2018 02:28 (three years ago) link

Dave Marsh calls “Went to See the Gypsy” an “obvious Elvis parable” in those old RS Record Guides (Big Red and Bog Blue); that was the only time I heard that idea mentioned until the liner notes of the Bootleg Series set, where Greil Marcus calls it, “...for reasons I have never grasped the dominant reading of the song.”

I’ll let those krusty rock-krit guys duke it out... though I suppose I fall more on GM’s side. What makes it an “obvious” Elvis parable, the reference to Las Vegas? Did Elvis famously visit Minnesota and Dylan paid him a visit, or
Something?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 15 March 2018 03:22 (three years ago) link

(That was meant to say “Big Blue,” but “Bog Blue” is more appropriate... my copy looks like it was fished out of a bog. And Marsh’s write-ups tend to be Bog Basic. He only gives “Planet Waves” two stars! I really don’t think that guy listened very deeply to most of the albums he wrote up... except maybe in the case of the Who, his personal Godhead.)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 15 March 2018 03:27 (three years ago) link

maybe Bob's happiest record

niels, Thursday, 15 March 2018 07:52 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

love the vibe of this record, every time i put it on it's like "has this actually become my favorite bob dylan album?" in overview too many of the songs are kinda forgettable, and bob plays piano like he started taking lessons last month, but it's got this great hazy/drunk/loose quality that i really love. "man in me" is an all-timer and i get "day of the locusts" stuck in my head all the time.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:23 (one year ago) link

I love how he plays piano, it's primitive but it works, he has a cool rhythmic momentum, he plays piano like drums

love New Morning to death, even little throwaway lines stick with me so much

"How are you? he said to me
so I said it back to him"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:29 (one year ago) link

There’s a life insurance commercial or something in heavy rotation right now that prominently uses “The Man in Me.”

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:50 (one year ago) link

I love this album.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:05 (one year ago) link

Hmmm I never ever managed to get into that one but then again I havent put it on in 15 years so maybe middle-aged me would warm up to it

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:45 (one year ago) link

middle-aged you is waiting at the cabin for young rebellious you to get over your shit and settle into cozy domestic adequacy!!! cmon!

j., Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:08 (one year ago) link

yeah this is a top tier Bob album imo

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:12 (one year ago) link

middle-aged you is waiting at the cabin for young rebellious you to get over your shit and settle into cozy domestic adequacy!!! cmon!

― j., Thursday, October 17, 2019

with rainbot trout and kids who call you "Pa."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

every time i put it on it's like "has this actually become my favorite bob dylan album?"

blood on the tracks is always #1, but new morning is in a constant epic battle with freewheelin' for that #2 spot.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:33 (one year ago) link

great album, JWH through NM is my favorite Dylan era

post-Lebowski "The Man in Me" seems to have become one of his most ubiquitous and familiar tunes, much more so than the NM single "If Not for You"

Brad C., Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:36 (one year ago) link

Oh I didn't know it was in that movie

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:39 (one year ago) link

yeah it definitely big upped the profile of that song. It's in that stupid beer commercial w Jeff Bridges too

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:42 (one year ago) link

it is pretty great in lebowski

whenever i listen to new morning now, so many of the songs sound like he chose the demo versions — there are some much more fleshed out arrangements on Another Self Portrait. The title track with a big horn section, symphonic Sign On The Window, a rocked out Time Passes Slowly etc. Not necessarily better, just interesting.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:47 (one year ago) link

tbh I think Lebowski was where I first heard The Man in Me, that album was not widely available in the 90s

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:49 (one year ago) link

def was my way in, was just coming back to post about how its pop-cultural status maybe overshadows what a great song and performance it is. the hoarse la-la-la voice, "TURN INTO SOME MACHINE," the ooooo backing vocals... dylan throwing it all out there.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 October 2019 17:03 (one year ago) link

symphonic Sign On The Window

Love this version. Might be my favorite thing on that box.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 October 2019 17:43 (one year ago) link

LOVE this album. Such cozy, Sunday morning warm-blanket vibes. Also Went to See the Gypsy is one of his best vocal performances.

J. Sam, Thursday, 17 October 2019 18:09 (one year ago) link

that orchestral sign on the window is pretty crazy just for how they had to build it over dylan's totally off-kilter piano ... i'm sure the strings players were a little mystified at the overdub session haha.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 October 2019 18:30 (one year ago) link

My number one Dylan for sure. Planet Waves comes close though!

Valentijn, Thursday, 17 October 2019 20:55 (one year ago) link

Those are two great Dylan albums, you have good taste!

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Thursday, 17 October 2019 20:56 (one year ago) link

Planet Waves is a slog

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:07 (one year ago) link

and the best song ("Nobody 'Cept You") was left off of it!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:08 (one year ago) link

pw is the greatest, unless u are a stanking bar stool

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:18 (one year ago) link

planet waves is not a slog outside of “dirge”

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:55 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

“Three Angels” is really something. Just a perfect little song.

Heez, Thursday, 10 June 2021 02:18 (one week ago) link

Wonderful, lovely record. Unsure if I've said that before here.

the pinefox, Thursday, 10 June 2021 10:22 (one week ago) link

I just put this on and heard the locusts in "Day of the Locusts" for the first time!
Of all Dylan's records this one sounds like he had the most fun doing it. I love the congested casual sound too, just sounds like hitting tape and doing a rough mix on the fly. "Gypsy" is my favourite (some days it's my favourite Dylan song).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 10 June 2021 10:44 (one week ago) link

the part where he goes "saw the sun come up on that little minnesota tooooooowwn...that liiiitle miiinesooota tooown!" part gets me crunk if i've had a few..home pride!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, September 17, 2007 12:52 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Love this and the short little outro jam right after.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Thursday, 10 June 2021 11:51 (one week ago) link

new morning just makes me happy in general

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:37 (one week ago) link

best bob drinking album actually...

^^still otm

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:39 (one week ago) link

In this concrete world full of souls
The angels play on their horns all day
The whole earth in progression seems to pass by
But does anyone hear the music they play
Does anyone even try?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:26 (one week ago) link

I love the juxtaposition of “the wildest cat from Montana passes by in flash” followed by “then a lady in bright orange dress”

Heez, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:36 (one week ago) link

This album has his best piano playing. I love those runs after singing the chorus of "Day of the Locusts."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, September 17, 2007

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:37 (one week ago) link

HE DID IT IN LAS VEGAS AND HE CAN DO IT HERE

J. Sam, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:59 (one week ago) link

classic obv... I love the sequencing

brimstead, Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:23 (one week ago) link

I even like “when dogs run free”.. the whole album is so warm and welcoming that I’m like “yeah it’s ok go ahead have a goof, bob”

brimstead, Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:27 (one week ago) link

Great late summer evening album.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:44 (one week ago) link

so happy just to be alive

cwkiii, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:26 (one week ago) link

the second time bob verges into the "la-la-la-la" vocals on "man in me" is so so beautiful.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 June 2021 04:04 (one week ago) link

I love the alternate version of “Time Passes Slowly” on Another Self Portrait, also has great la-la-la’s

JoeStork, Friday, 11 June 2021 04:08 (one week ago) link


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