I Can't Find The Recent Thread On Recently Rediscovered Singers That Mentioned Jim Ford So I'll Start A New One For Him

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I just got the new reissue album + bonus tracks and the sound of it (and the backstory) seems to good to be true- what the Dan Penn album was supposed to be but never was.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 01:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Som a few months ago, the papers were all full of some rediscovered folk singer, and now I can't remember who she was. Any ideas?

That's not a "GRAR GRAR USE TEH SEARCH FUNCTION" post, btw, this thread will be easier to find. I just happened to remember the wording of the title.

John Justen, Friday, 14 September 2007 01:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was it, thanks, John.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 01:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

What other artist is going to have testimonials from Nick Lowe AND Sly Stone on his album?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 01:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(oops to thread to answer my rhetorical question )

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 01:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Is this the guy that wrote "Harry Hippie"?

Tom D., Friday, 14 September 2007 14:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Looks like it. He was pals with Bobby Womack.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 15:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I forgot about the Redbone connection. Also about Rockpile staple "Ju Ju Man."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 15:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Eh. In theory, this album should be great - like Betty Davis or that Shuggie Otis reissue from a few years ago with Strawberry Letter on it - but I dunno, this sounds alright when its playing, but I haven't wanted to hear it all the way through since I got it. It SOUNDS great, but I don't know about the TUNES....

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 14 September 2007 15:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

but I don't know about the TUNES....
...Airport, are you Mike Damone?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ford's got more tunage than shuggie to my ears, but i see what airport's getting at. i'm pretty into country-soul style stuff though, so maybe I cut him a big more slack than others might.

fritz, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

but all the Betty Davis, SHuggie Otis and Jim Fords reissues are great! I am convinced since I heard it (almost two months ago) that "Harlan County" is the greatest song i've ever heard -- gives me chills every time. There's a lot of filler on there, probably, but the highpoints are unbeatable.

I find it amazing what a concise union of two esthetics this is. It's very sincerely county, and it's very sincerely soulful. A lot of people pushed that edge, but there's something different about Jim Ford. (but on the other hand he sounds a lot like Charlie Rich)

people explosion, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've tried to love the Tony Joe White reissues but it's not like this

people explosion, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yeah, v. different mood than tony joe white or joe south, though working some similar angles. i think the charlie rich comparison is a good call though.

i still need to hear some eddie hinton.

fritz, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Eddie Hinton is the MAN!! I buy any record he plays on

So is Allan Touissant (sp?) - people explosion, if you want country soul hybrid, check out this one album - shit i forget the name of it - Southern Nights maybe? It's like if Al Green did a record at Muscle Shoals

Also, yeah, "Harlan County" is pretty much it. What else? Ya know?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

re: "What else?"- "Changing Colors" & "36 Inches High" which sound like <i>Exile</i> if it didn't have to pretend to be American, a pretty respectable Howlin' Wolf cover in "Spoonful", the title track which is a totally classic soul-country ballad, "Ramona" which does the Byrds covering Dylan better than the Byrds even though it isn't written by Dylan, and Rising Sign which out-swamps Dr John & Tony Joe White.

It sounds a bit like Swamp Dogg, too, which is great because who else sounds anything like Swamp Dogg?

The only (solo) Toussaint I have heard is FRom a Whisper to a Scream, which is great but strangely subdued. I would def like to check out Southern Nights

people explosion, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

when I found out that Eddie Hinton played on Laura Nyro's Christmas and the Beads of Sweat LP I loved it even more...and his solo stuff is really good, too...

henry s, Friday, 14 September 2007 17:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've heard both sides of the Jim Ford question. "Harry Hippie" is a good song, and Sterling Harrison does Ford/Womack's "Surprise, Surprise" on Harrisons' posthumous South of the Snooty Fox, which I've talked about elsewhere on here. Best thing on the record, I think. Eddie Hinton's "I'm Still Your Baby" leads off the new Bettye LaVette reocrd. I always thought Hinton sounded too much like Otis Redding, but that's just me, and he was a fine songwriter.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 14 September 2007 17:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

has anyone heard the dale hawkins comeback record "LA, Memphis and Tyler, Texas"?
It has Spooner Oldham, James Burton, Ry Cooder, Taj Mahal and Mouse and the moutherfucking Traps on it! I need to find a copy of this. I'm also looking out for those early 70's Link Wray records, what I've heard of them has been amazing.

fritz, Friday, 14 September 2007 18:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That sounds good on paper, therefore it must be bad.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 14 September 2007 18:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ha, it does kinda sound like a $25 record I will play once and forget about, but I am curious... that link wray shit is definitely great though

fritz, Friday, 14 September 2007 18:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You mean the 'vocal' records? If so, then, yes, the one that I believe is s/t with Link looking all cigar store Indian on the cover, that record rules the heavens and earth.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 14 September 2007 19:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yeah, the vocal ones recorded in the "3-track shack"... they're all collected on a 2-cd set now.

fritz, Friday, 14 September 2007 19:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

speaking of 70s Link Wray, The Link Wray Rumble (Epic) is one of my favorites by anybody, from any time. Trying to get with the times, maybe, he Links them good: "Country Boy, " dedicated to Duane Allman, assimilates Duane's guitar sound and then-prime Van Morrison's vocal style (pitch-wise, that is; he doesn't try to scat sing etc) "Good Time Joe" really absorbs some kind of Who-vian guitar riff, and of course he sings his ass off on this and Tony Joe's "Back Woods Preacher Man," and his own "She's That Kind Of Woman," which is his extrapolation of (maybe?) There's A Riot Goin On-era Sly times Van (not that Link didn't already sound like that; kind of between Van and Alvin Lee, I guess). Eddie Hinton was mainly a writer-arranger-multi-instrumentalist, but his voice, although too strained at times, can work like Doug Sahm's, or xpost "Mouse and the fucking Traps." UK Label Zane's (authorized) The Songwriting Sessions, Vol. 1 (Dear Y'all) and 2 (Playin' Around) are a little uneven, but lots of great stuff; Vol. 3 (Beautiful Dream) is spottier. I'd like to hear Ford, but< if it matters, Stephen Thomas Erlewine's All Music reviews claim his records were pretty uneven, sometimes way too cute. Still this one seems like it might be worth checking out, and that Dale Hawkins too (but naw, not another one of those 25-dollar one-plays, please...)

dow, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Live Rockpile "JuJu Man": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW-6WxF670U

Billy, Nick and Dave trade vocals.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 16 September 2007 03:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

someone posted this on the "chrisgoesrocks" blog:

I must sadly, and unfortunately, very reliably, report of the tragic passing of dear Jim Ford this past Sunday. Initial information regarding his death at the age of 64 is sparse, and memorial information is still pending.

I have known and loved Jimmy for over 50 years - as family and friend, I will focus on his bright star this Thanksgiving somewhat . If you would to help or be involved in a fitting memorial tribute to this big-hearted and talented man, contact me at ra✧✧✧@ct✧✧✧.o✧✧.

Rabbi Mark Hyman, Manhattan Beach, California.

anyone heard anything else about this? can't seem to find any other info so i'm taking it with a grain of salt.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Don't see anything anywhere but that one post on that one board , but it seems like it's probably true.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 24 November 2007 02:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The guy went out of his way to say 'very reliably.'

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 24 November 2007 16:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Still no other info.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

There's a bigger obit on the Bear Family site. RIP...

Craig D., Monday, 26 November 2007 19:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah here. Thanks. RIP, Jim.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Cover of the one coming out next year looks great.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ah, too bad...I always thought of him as the belligerent drunk to Lee Hazlewood's mellow drunk...sez he co-wrote "Ode To Billy Joe", and I got no reason to doubt him...RIP...

henry s, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

damn, i was hoping this was just blog BS.

RIP, jim ford, and i wish i had found a copy of "harlan county" years and years ago instead of waiting 34 years to hear it.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I think the other rekkid is out now.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 18 February 2008 03:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i'm buying it as soon as i can find it

gershy, Monday, 18 February 2008 16:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Well?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Nobody got this one yet? On the liner notes of the first one Jim called out Bobby Womack for ripping him off, on this one Bobby defends himself, saying well there was one song that I "traded" with him for some other songs.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i got it. about 5 really great songs, which is about what you can expect from "unreleased shit dead dude had in his trailer" type of release. stories about him make him out to be a complete fucking lunatic. my faves are "point of no return" (seriously, this is life-altering) and "mill valley"

gershy, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

found several cassette tapes with studio musings and songs from Jim Ford - Anyone know what to do with them> He was laid to rest last year, and the double CD album seemed to find almost everything he recorded in studio

RabbiCTJ, Monday, 22 February 2010 12:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Some of this material is like Gram Parsons at his most lackadaisical, inviting the "I like this guy and what he's trying to do but couldn't they have tightened the screws a little on this number?" response.

Had not known "Harry Hippie" was actually about Bobby Womack's brother and what happened to the brother afterward.

Wonder what happened to the stash of cassettes and musings

She Got The Goldwax (I Got The Son Of Shaft) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 June 2011 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink


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