Stone Roses fans

I hope I haven't upset anybody ;-)

It was about five years later that I got into them properly, through a couple of mates...

What is it? I've spent so many night sitting up till 3am or whatever with friends, discussing what it is about them. Firstly, I never bore of the early tunes, any of them. But I'm not a musicoligist, so I can't say why. I love the lyrics, I love the subtleties of the production, I love the rhythm section, Squire's guitar work...

But beyond that, I don't know. Maybe it's magic. I just love 'em.

Well, I suspect you UK folk haven't had to deal with the rather ugly American (get it?) phenom of DEADHEADS. There's no talking to these folks about music -- I know a guy who is a fabulous guitarist, plays classical piano, and has perfect pitch (i.e. born musician) who was infected by the Deadhead virus in high school and wasted his talent first by playing endless covers of "Scarlet Begonias" and then by playing originals in the same vein. I tried to talk to him about it, but he had a rebuttal for every criticism I made, and finally ended up with "you just need to go to a show man." He made me three ninety minute cassettes to try to convert me. Cripes.

Hey, I resemble that remark. ;-) Though 11 for me, and there's plenty I lurve since then. Still, it's weird thinking that I saw the last MBV gig ever almost ten years ago.

Dealing with rabid fans: why do you need to talk them out of their fanaticism?

Destroy: Ian Brown, the Seahorses, Second Coming, the really early stuff (ever hear "Tell Me" or "So Young"?), and actually Stone Roses fans in general. The liner notes to the Complete Stone Roses compilation alone are the most nauseating sycophantic nonsense written about a band ever and the whole quasi-religious aura that surrounds them is almost enough to make me hate them. But I can't argue with "Made of Stone" or "Sugar Spun Sister." If ever a band needed to spontaneously combust after its 'moment' had passed, this was the one.

Sorry but this is utter crap! They had terrible riffs, a singer who couldn't fucking sing. Also, can you tell me what is 'modern rock', how different is it from old rock?

And were the 80s terrible? What about the SST label, Homestead plus at the time we had spaceman 3, MBV, SY (many other good american bands).

''It's hard to think of another band that has had such a profound effect on music for the better in the last fifteen years, there certainly isn't anything that has changed music in the last five. I find some of the comments here quite funny, especially the american ones. Musically america is stuck in the eighties and looks like it'll stay there for years now with rubbish rap and banal white rock (shred).''

They had a profound effect in this country. Just like Thatcher destrying the country, the Roses destroyed music in britain. And I'm english.

''Britain has had multiple new styles since the early nineties and is paticularly rich musically. We're in a terrible state at the moment because American record companies have bought our record companies and closed them and turned instead to making a quick buck rather than nurturing bands - and there are plenty of good bands about.''

Like what exactly? Britpop! (which is just a rehash of 60s pop, after all). You must be also thinking abt Jungle and UK Garage. Gimme a break!

Lets start by naming some bands here (which you haven't). And thanks for the report on the music industry. You don't need corporations to 'nurture' bands. Music (whatever its forms) must exist outside corporations. It must not be funded by the government or any 'industry'.

''Put roses fans in their place by mentioning the second awful album and then tell them that the Monday's second album was a masterpiece They were good though - you had to be there.''

Destroy it! Destroy it all!

Yanks cannot get The Stone Roses. It's too precious, and thank fuck for that, they're a national treasure - leave the Americans to Fred Durst.

― Calum Robert, Saturday, 27 April 2002 01:00 (12 years ago)

the stone roses were absolute 100% dogshit & every time a song of theirs* comes up on my shuffle i resolve to delete them from my mp3s, before forgetting to because they're so inconsequential

*beggin' you excepted

'Begging You' sounds like 'Slap & Tickle' by Squeeze

Single highest % ratio of arsehole fans for any guitar band aside from Oasis?

I say yes.

Dunno. The Stone Roses, and Oasis as well I guess, are so mainstream that they probably have loads of perfectly decent fans. From the outside, I'd say Kasabian probably have a higher ratio, but really I bet neither of us knows enough about this culture. There will be a guitar band none of us has heard of with 100% arsehole fans. We will never know the band. We will never know the fans.

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