Grand Theft Auto is Mondeo Pop??? I think my next invented genre will be either Nuts pop or Zoo pop.
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― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
The Cure had a Mondeo Pop period. "Fridays I'm In Love" especially.
-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:36 (2 days ago) Link
for a very, very long time this was the only cure song i knew. i had no idea why they and their fans dressed so badly, and was like 'waht is gothic?' i have no idea what their deal was, but that song is a local radio banger.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 16 September 2007 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link
"Love Cats" as well.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 17 September 2007 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link
What a shit idea for a thread this was.
-- paulhw, Monday, September 17, 2007 4:28 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
^ ban
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Perhaps it is you that is shook
-- That mong guy that's shit, Friday, July 13, 2007 12:04 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link
It's just ILE's new rolling balkanised thread for shut-in aspie rubes.
-- ledge, Wednesday, July 4, 2007 11:35 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
LATEST DEVELOPMENTS
at 10:13am on September 18th, 2007 can scritti politti c. 'cupid & psyche' be recuperated from the dead hand of bawrin' post-punk/new-pop orthodoxy? 'the "word" girl' was a local radio banger, and 'small talk' is uber-mondeo. i could care less if ya boy gartside read some barthes.
at 1:40pm on September 18th, 2007 I never heard any Scritti till ILX. Actually that's not true, there was a song on a free Q CD from 1999. I was thinking about this. Wet Wet Wet was the band Green never had the guts to be. That's what I thought today as I listened to Sweet Little Mystery for about the 1000th time. I did buy a Stereolab album rather than Popped In Souled Out in Cash Converters at the weekend though. Delete at 2:22pm on September 18th, 2007 wiki says wet wet wet -- "the wets", perhaps -- take their name from the scritti politti song 'gettin, havin' and holdin'. ver scritz were the soulboy band (simon reynolds says) it's okay to like. similarly i think tim finney is denying blue nile's mondeo credentials coz they too are sort of hooked up to the quasi-avant talk talk tradition. Message - Report at 10:54am I don't think I've heard the Blue Nile. Tim is right. I think Mondeo Pop needs to be linked into some kind of erk world experience or something. I think if Scritti is Mondeo Pop then Madness could be considered. Well it Must Be Love, anyway. I think Mondeo Pop is not to be thought of in terms of bands. Like you were saying on ilx The Cure have one Mondeo Pop monster but are in no way a Mondeo Pop band. Delete
― acrobat, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Mondeo Pop is not to be thought of in terms of bands.
that's what i said when i was born, about all phoney genres.
― blueski, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
a cursory reading of the later wittgenstein would have told you that
― acrobat, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.drownedinsound.com/release/view/11149
Mondeo Pop hits the mainstream.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 12:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I was just coming to mention that, did someone from here write that? (Wasn't Carrie Bradshaw one of Shampoo?)
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Carrie Bradshaw: Sex In The City main character John Bradshaw Layfield: pro-wrestling commentator
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link
nice review! i've only heard 'she's so lovely' but that was enough.
― Just got offed, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I should note that it's not that I think The Blue Nile are too good to be mondeo-pop, just that there's something specific about the vibe i don't think they share, if i'm understanding it correctly. It starts to become diffuse otherwise, another name for MOR british pop-rock.
In the same way that I wouldn't describe post-"Sledgehammer" Peter Gabriel as mondeo-pop even if there are certain points of overlap.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link
jokes, bruv I worked for about 16 hours yesterday
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― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Can any Scritti fans speak on the Wetx3/Scritti connection? Is it fair to say that if Green Gartside had any artistic integrity they would have sounded like Wet Wet Wet?
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
If you got that idea from what I said that's not what I meant really. Wx3 took their name from a Scrit song, thats all the connections I know. What I meant was more that Scritti were held back by "artistic integrity"...
― acrobat, Friday, 21 September 2007 11:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe worth talking about how Edywn Collins got from "Rip It Up" from "A Girl Like You". The greatest victory of Mondeo Pop?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 September 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link
'a girl like you' is britpop tho!
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 21 September 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link
and 'The Magic Piper Of Love' is Big Beat
― blueski, Friday, 21 September 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Freaky Trigger on the Mondeo Pop bandwagon! http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/09/the-freaky-trigger-top-100-tracks-of-all-time-no-52-joe-jackson-it%e2%80%99s-different-for-girls/ Random youtube commenter also on board http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBikNb5oEcU
Unfortunately I'm really dubious Joe Jackson is Mondeo Pop. Really, really dubious. Cos that would make The Police Mondeo Pop and that would be bad. Rip It Up might be.
― acrobat, Friday, 21 September 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Steppin' Out might be Mondeo Pop though.
― acrobat, Friday, 21 September 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Too new wave. Surely this is what discounts Squeeze (other than "Pulling Mussels") as well?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 September 2007 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Man, I heard Dreams by Gabrielle at the weekend. So, so pure Mondeo Pop in a way say M People aren't. It's got the prettiness and the sort of, this is no slight, smallness. "I'm not making plans for tomorrow, just stay for tonight" consumate Mondeo Pop moment.
Has anyone mentioned that "The summer in city where the air is still, baby being born to the overkill" bit in Somewhere In My Heart by Aztec Camera is GREAT and reminds me oddly of Hash Pipe by Weezer. also "a vision of love wearing boxing gloves".
― acrobat, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The new Mixmag or DJ calls Hard-Fi 'Xfm Mondeo music' or something along those lines.
― Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Squeeze: perhaps their after '85 albums have some Mondeo Pop moments, but the first incarnation of the band were NEVER Mondeo Pop.
― zeus, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
BTW, are there any other musical styles named by a car?
― zeus, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I was watching "top 100 forgotten gems of the 80s" on the hits the other day. The top 11 I thought was somewhat instructive:
11. Climie Fisher, Love Changes Everything 10. Tpau, Heart and Soul 9. Aztec Camera, Good Morning Britain 8. Alison Moyet, All Cried Out 7. Aha, The Sun Always Shines on TV 6. Abba, One of Us 5. Kim Carnes, Bette Davis Eyes 4. Feargal Sharkey, A Good Heart 3. Philip Bailey and Phil Collins, Easy Lover 2. Laura Branigan, Self Control 1. The Bee Gees, You Win Again
Ok not all MP by any means but some good candidates - Climie FIsher certainly, Aztec C of course, Tpau and Moyet in with a chance. Breathe, Hands to Heaven was up in the 80s or 90s - I always thought they were boyband-esque but the video looked more earnest than that. Anyway I think the idea that these songs are forgotten is telling, and not entirely mistaken.
― ledge, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess the Compilation is the natural medium of all Mondeo genres anyway.
-- Noodle Vague, Sunday, 14 October 2007 12:09 (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 14 October 2007 12:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Familiarity is the key here. Most Mondeo-friendly acts don't have whole albums of familiar tracks, apart from Greatest Hits collections. Take the Lighthouse Family as an average representative. Nobody knows what the non-singles sound like on their records, not even the people who played on them. Mondeo Pop thrives on the singalong. Compilations, especially with the word "Drivetime" in the title, are king.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 14 October 2007 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Compilations that come free with newspapers?
― dowd, Sunday, 14 October 2007 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Not usually. Too genre-limited. Also the demographic for the Mail on Sunday is averaging at least 10 years too old to get behind Mondeo Pop.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 14 October 2007 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, I see. (just wondering, as I was in someone's place this weekend and those were the only music they owned...)
― dowd, Sunday, 14 October 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
weird that the lighthouse family's long-player was called 'ocean's drive', after the location of numerous hits in the miami crack wars of the early 80s.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 14 October 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Most everything I said there was rong.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 15 October 2007 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.ukmix.org/images/reviews/2000/s_toploader.gif
― blueski, Monday, 15 October 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html#9167903617409285069
No answers, no solutions... just further-gloom-inducing inconclusions that all point towards to that bigger sense of impasse and social/cultural deadlock.
(Still at least it has inspired the best ILM thread in many, many a moon)
Posted by simon reynolds at 9:39 AM
kudos guys
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 21 October 2007 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Sounds like someone hasn't seen Results 1 - 10 of about 256 for gaydiohead. (0.28 seconds)
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 21 October 2007 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
"kudos guys"
Ha ha you wish. This would surely be SR's top ten most hated "loonies getting loonier" thread.
― Tim F, Monday, 22 October 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Reynolds will come around to Danny Wilson in time.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 22 October 2007 08:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Virgin Radio still has a lot of Deacon Blue on its daytime playlist
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link
So is someone gonna compile the Mondeo Pop rough guide?
― admrl, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Also this thread has made me feel like listening to Dubstar (I used to drive a micra)!
Counting Crows. Mondeo, yes?
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^My job for this evening
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 11 November 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Public response: MEH.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 11 November 2007 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Public response: Dom, you're one of those guys who whines that people are better/fitter/more networked/richer than you as if there is a vast metropolitan conspiracy against your sorry, provincial, undervalued arse. Your solution: the only way to become memorable is to be hateful. Public response: MEH. When they find you as a pensioner, freeze-dried to a chair three months after your lonely death, wearing a bathrobe and dried remnants of excreta, and with more unpublish/ed/able work than Colin Wilson to burn off, nobody who was here will be very surprised AT ALL.
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 11 November 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hooray for middlebrow" says Simon Reynolds in "Bring the Noise". Is Mondeo Pop the logical conclusion of what he's desperately groping about for over the course of his writings, the spark he tries and fails to find in dancehall, rave, and grime?
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 November 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link
His problems with homophobia in dancehall are similar to the problems Mondeo Pop fans have with the misogyny of the Beautiful South, but in the end we have to overlook these things to appreciate an overall beauty of product.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 November 2007 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link