kind of disagree about Razorlight as well if you actually listen to 'America' and 'Before I Fall To Pieces' from sonic pov.
remind me: 'Dakota' is too rawky right?
― blueski, Thursday, 13 September 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
i think new order's 'republic' is mondeo, to follow up on the electronic reference.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Beautiful South are an anomaly really, incomparable to anything else as pop 'force'.
-- blueski, Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
yeah, this is true also. they're not really very much like the others...
-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:49 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
There's no one like The Beautiful South? For a band so despised in certain quarters that seems kind of notable. Surely yr Prefabs are kinda similar, pleasant music with cutting lyrics? But sonically you may be onto something.
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link
TBS = not aspirational? some sort of book-smart sophistication but very self-aware, earnest and NEVER pretentious
― blueski, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Is that perhaps a Northern thing? Anti-pretention, pro-folkishness, irrespective of intellectual output?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I am actually confused what Quitney and Stevey are getting at. Are TBS sonically different or different in tone? Listening to You Keep It All in, it's more retro, less folky perhaps? I'd like to hear some Grime MC's rap over that "Murder in '73" bit.
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I do think Catatonia bear some comparison with the Beautiful South. Not just thematically, there's also the way they both draw on similar pseudo-sophisticated retro stuff to try and glam-up their otherwise pumice-stone-grey and dirty-bath-brown sounds and ends up as this ghastly Pernod and Horlicks concoction.
― NickB, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Pernod and Horlicks
KUDOS
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link
'You Keep It All In' is bordering on 'Come Up And See Me' musically.
― blueski, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Which is / was also a local radio staple. This is the current playlist of a local radio station (Southern FM, the station that played the Mondeo Pop of my formative years)
Playlist
14.09.07
Amy Winehouse - Tears Dry On Their Own
Avril Lavinge - When You're Gone
Enrique Iglesias - Do You Know? Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry James Blunt - 1973 Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around Kate Nash - Foundations KT Tunstall - Hold On Nelly Furtado - Say It Right
Plain White T's - Hey There Delilah Rihanna - Shut Up & Drive Robyn - With Every Heartbeat Scouting For Girls - She's So Lovely Sean Kingston - Beautiful Girls Sugababes - About You Now The Fray - How To Save A Life The Hoosiers - Worried About Ray
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:13 (sixteen years ago) link
I bet they sneak in "The King of Rock 'n Roll" most days though. I hope they do.
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Last ten songs Virgin Radio (where I learned Mondeo Pop as a youth) has played:
James Blunt 1973
Bryan Adams Run to you
Amy Winehouse Rehab
The Clash Should I stay or should I go
Alanis Morissette You oughta know
Philip Oakey and Georgio Moroder Together In Electric Dreams
The Twang Two lovers
The Dandy Warhols Bohemian like you
The Fratellis Chelsea dagger
Semisonic Secret smile
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link
We're not in Kansas anymore.
Semisonic and Bryan Adams! That's not Mondeo Pop but it's in the zone.
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Semisonic more than BA, definitely. Maybe if CAKE had come from Hull or Oldham they could have been a great British Mondeo Pop act.
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Is Heart 106.2 Mondeo Pop? I don't think so; it's something softer, something worse.
― Just got offed, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think a radio station in of itself can be Mondeo Pop. I think Lynx Java may have been pretty Mondeo Pop at one point, not now though.
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.basenotes.net/images/photos/26121027.jpg
i just nominated Joe Jackson (post 1980?) as Mondeo Pop. evidence: steppin out on GTA soundtrack, playing piano for Suzanne Vega. also Different for Girls is on the Cold Feet soundtrack album.
yes?
― Alan, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Too new wave. I see where you're coming from, but he falls down around the same point that Squeeze do.
But... ah boy, let's just say this: The Cure had a Mondeo Pop period. "Fridays I'm In Love" especially.
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't see the Blue Nile as MP, too angular, stark and downbeat, maybe if he's going through a divorce or his team have lost badly.
Prefab Sprout? The greatest hits album,yes. Any regular album, no.
― Billy Dods, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Grand Theft Auto is Mondeo Pop??? I think my next invented genre will be either Nuts pop or Zoo pop.
xp
― acrobat, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
The Cure had a Mondeo Pop period. "Fridays I'm In Love" especially.
-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:36 (2 days ago) Link
for a very, very long time this was the only cure song i knew. i had no idea why they and their fans dressed so badly, and was like 'waht is gothic?' i have no idea what their deal was, but that song is a local radio banger.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 16 September 2007 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link
"Love Cats" as well.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 17 September 2007 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link
What a shit idea for a thread this was.
-- paulhw, Monday, September 17, 2007 4:28 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
^ ban
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Perhaps it is you that is shook
-- That mong guy that's shit, Friday, July 13, 2007 12:04 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link
It's just ILE's new rolling balkanised thread for shut-in aspie rubes.
-- ledge, Wednesday, July 4, 2007 11:35 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
LATEST DEVELOPMENTS
at 10:13am on September 18th, 2007 can scritti politti c. 'cupid & psyche' be recuperated from the dead hand of bawrin' post-punk/new-pop orthodoxy? 'the "word" girl' was a local radio banger, and 'small talk' is uber-mondeo. i could care less if ya boy gartside read some barthes.
at 1:40pm on September 18th, 2007 I never heard any Scritti till ILX. Actually that's not true, there was a song on a free Q CD from 1999. I was thinking about this. Wet Wet Wet was the band Green never had the guts to be. That's what I thought today as I listened to Sweet Little Mystery for about the 1000th time. I did buy a Stereolab album rather than Popped In Souled Out in Cash Converters at the weekend though. Delete at 2:22pm on September 18th, 2007 wiki says wet wet wet -- "the wets", perhaps -- take their name from the scritti politti song 'gettin, havin' and holdin'. ver scritz were the soulboy band (simon reynolds says) it's okay to like. similarly i think tim finney is denying blue nile's mondeo credentials coz they too are sort of hooked up to the quasi-avant talk talk tradition. Message - Report at 10:54am I don't think I've heard the Blue Nile. Tim is right. I think Mondeo Pop needs to be linked into some kind of erk world experience or something. I think if Scritti is Mondeo Pop then Madness could be considered. Well it Must Be Love, anyway. I think Mondeo Pop is not to be thought of in terms of bands. Like you were saying on ilx The Cure have one Mondeo Pop monster but are in no way a Mondeo Pop band. Delete
― acrobat, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Mondeo Pop is not to be thought of in terms of bands.
that's what i said when i was born, about all phoney genres.
― blueski, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
a cursory reading of the later wittgenstein would have told you that
― acrobat, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.drownedinsound.com/release/view/11149
Mondeo Pop hits the mainstream.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 12:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I was just coming to mention that, did someone from here write that? (Wasn't Carrie Bradshaw one of Shampoo?)
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Carrie Bradshaw: Sex In The City main character John Bradshaw Layfield: pro-wrestling commentator
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link
nice review! i've only heard 'she's so lovely' but that was enough.
― Just got offed, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I should note that it's not that I think The Blue Nile are too good to be mondeo-pop, just that there's something specific about the vibe i don't think they share, if i'm understanding it correctly. It starts to become diffuse otherwise, another name for MOR british pop-rock.
In the same way that I wouldn't describe post-"Sledgehammer" Peter Gabriel as mondeo-pop even if there are certain points of overlap.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link
jokes, bruv I worked for about 16 hours yesterday
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― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Can any Scritti fans speak on the Wetx3/Scritti connection? Is it fair to say that if Green Gartside had any artistic integrity they would have sounded like Wet Wet Wet?
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
If you got that idea from what I said that's not what I meant really. Wx3 took their name from a Scrit song, thats all the connections I know. What I meant was more that Scritti were held back by "artistic integrity"...
― acrobat, Friday, 21 September 2007 11:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe worth talking about how Edywn Collins got from "Rip It Up" from "A Girl Like You". The greatest victory of Mondeo Pop?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 September 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link
'a girl like you' is britpop tho!
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 21 September 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link
and 'The Magic Piper Of Love' is Big Beat
― blueski, Friday, 21 September 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Freaky Trigger on the Mondeo Pop bandwagon! http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/09/the-freaky-trigger-top-100-tracks-of-all-time-no-52-joe-jackson-it%e2%80%99s-different-for-girls/ Random youtube commenter also on board http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBikNb5oEcU
Unfortunately I'm really dubious Joe Jackson is Mondeo Pop. Really, really dubious. Cos that would make The Police Mondeo Pop and that would be bad. Rip It Up might be.
― acrobat, Friday, 21 September 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Steppin' Out might be Mondeo Pop though.
― acrobat, Friday, 21 September 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Too new wave. Surely this is what discounts Squeeze (other than "Pulling Mussels") as well?
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 September 2007 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Man, I heard Dreams by Gabrielle at the weekend. So, so pure Mondeo Pop in a way say M People aren't. It's got the prettiness and the sort of, this is no slight, smallness. "I'm not making plans for tomorrow, just stay for tonight" consumate Mondeo Pop moment.
Has anyone mentioned that "The summer in city where the air is still, baby being born to the overkill" bit in Somewhere In My Heart by Aztec Camera is GREAT and reminds me oddly of Hash Pipe by Weezer. also "a vision of love wearing boxing gloves".
― acrobat, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The new Mixmag or DJ calls Hard-Fi 'Xfm Mondeo music' or something along those lines.
― Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Squeeze: perhaps their after '85 albums have some Mondeo Pop moments, but the first incarnation of the band were NEVER Mondeo Pop.
― zeus, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
BTW, are there any other musical styles named by a car?
― zeus, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I was watching "top 100 forgotten gems of the 80s" on the hits the other day. The top 11 I thought was somewhat instructive:
11. Climie Fisher, Love Changes Everything 10. Tpau, Heart and Soul 9. Aztec Camera, Good Morning Britain 8. Alison Moyet, All Cried Out 7. Aha, The Sun Always Shines on TV 6. Abba, One of Us 5. Kim Carnes, Bette Davis Eyes 4. Feargal Sharkey, A Good Heart 3. Philip Bailey and Phil Collins, Easy Lover 2. Laura Branigan, Self Control 1. The Bee Gees, You Win Again
Ok not all MP by any means but some good candidates - Climie FIsher certainly, Aztec C of course, Tpau and Moyet in with a chance. Breathe, Hands to Heaven was up in the 80s or 90s - I always thought they were boyband-esque but the video looked more earnest than that. Anyway I think the idea that these songs are forgotten is telling, and not entirely mistaken.
― ledge, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link