nicole scherzinger - SUPER VILLAIN

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<a href="http://www.zshare.net/audio/3129587fa35069";>LISTEN TO THIS TUNE</a> it is the best.

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

whoops.

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah I was just going to start this thread. This tune is AMAZING... strange, but amazing. Like, I don't even know what to say about it.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

if sean kingston opening the doors to some kinda raggafied 60s girlgroup pleasantville is wrong then i don't wanna be right!

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

That snare hit with the OWWW! is so awesome.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

i thought it mightve been lil jon's secret dancehall love coming thru for a sec but it turns out it's some guy called MAD SCIENTIST? haha at first i was like oh that dude that rmxed massive attack, cool!! he is listed as doing vocal production on paula deanda's 'easy' and err that's it. the rich harrisonian key changes are almost too generous a gift to accept.

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

no, that was mad professor.

mh, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

u_u

yes thankyou i gathered.

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

I JUS WANT BADMAN ALONE, I JUS WANT BADMAN ALONE

(pref with opinions on this song)

r|t|c, Friday, 17 August 2007 09:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Woah. This is fab.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2007 10:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

agreed. best bit is when the bassy synth line drifts in at 1:12 and again later on for that sense of very satisfying fullness.

kinda wish it was Amerie tho as have found it hard to warm to Nicole for some reason.

blueski, Friday, 17 August 2007 19:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

kinda wish it was Amerie

dammit i have killed it for me already :(

blueski, Friday, 17 August 2007 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

why tho??? you already imply that yr reservations arent in what yr hearing but in what yr perceiving characterwise (i certainly wouldn't say amerie could bring anything different or do the same things any better on this tune) so what is it that amerie, or nicole, is representing here? not tryna jump down yr throat but the amerie UNQUESTIONING TOKEN INDIE TRUST question could do with some addressing before my head goes and explodes

r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 18:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

i mean ok, leggy english lit grads in ooh-la-la garms generally occupy my mind too but my stereo doesnt have to take the hit yknow?

r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 18:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Todd Rundgren Ragga or sump'n. This is really good.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 August 2007 18:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

i certainly wouldn't say amerie could bring anything different or do the same things any better on this tune)

whereas i do - from a purely musical/vocal point of view. i just hear the affectations of amerie's voice working so well in this song's chorus particularly. character-wise it may well be that the song subject suits Scherzinger's on-record persona (would-be 'evil fembot' except is she even that interesting? can't seem to come round to her) better. essentially i think amerie's got more charm and think this sort of production would've suited her v well but never mind eh.

blueski, Saturday, 18 August 2007 19:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

to my mind amerie's voice is rounder, fuller, more genial compared to nicole's - qualities that in this partic song the beat alone manages to convey quite well. so rather than doubling up on that vibe, 80s jackie collins superbitch nicole's airy delivery gives u a nice steelier contrast, in that you kinda already knew only a supervillian would do for her but what the hey let's dress it up as a bouncy knockabout 60s thing. which is charming right? whereas for amerie (amelie more like amirite) it'd just be a bit "i said badman, tee hee!"

r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

but i'm not sure nicole's delivery is particularly convincing either (or at least not as satisfying as it could be)! must say the 'bouncy knockabout 60s charming' vibe for the 'i love bastards' theme makes a strange contrast but perhaps that's a good thing. an ameriete version with the only super villain being perhaps an occasionally disobedient puppy would be great too tho.

blueski, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

but Amerie carried off bad girl vibe well enough on 'Touch' anyway

blueski, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

(i will be generous and leave aside the "but 'touch' was a load of cobblers THUS I WIN" loophole!)

'bouncy knockabout 60s charming' vibe for the 'i love bastards' theme is probably the least strange contrast ever in terms of girlgroup songs passim though innit. but cos nicole's a slightly colder (or um hotter) fish than yr average it works on a higher level to a simple genre throwback thing.

puppy supervillain i could down with though. "here, bounty killer! BAD DOG"

r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

mary j blige ft jah cure - he hit me and it felt like a kiss 2007

r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

is probably the least strange contrast ever in terms of girlgroup songs passim though innit.

isn't it usually at least disguised as berating their bastardity but admitting they can't help loving them all the same tho? this is more blatant approval (or even celebration).

i liked 'touch'

blueski, Saturday, 18 August 2007 22:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

she does vaguely say theyre not "good for her soul" but yeah, point taken

r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 22:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Steve it goes back to this doesn't it:

"He's good-bad but not evil"

I love this song so much, and really people should stop fronting and recognize the Nicole is a brillziant vocalist - if anything she sounds a bit like Mya a bit at times here (esp. in the verses), which makes sense as Mya has done this kind of song more than just about anyone in modern R&B, although usually kinda darker than this carnivalesque delicacy.

Tim F, Sunday, 19 August 2007 00:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Whatever You Like" (is this new? i'm not up on pop currently) is a total Kelis' "Blindfold Me" rip

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nicole, as a singer, is an order of magnitude more versatile than Amerie.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 22:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

amerie is, however, probably versatile enough that she doesnt have to use the phrase "order of magnitude" everytime she wants to say something.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

I totally do not get the jizzing over this track, and I can't quite work out why it isn't clicking for me.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 08:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

stylus sez.

MT Kafka: This is probably Nicole’s best recorded performance, and I love the way in which the snare rolls and background chants in the chorus are softened by the synthesized strings. It also has the campiest moment in pop this year when she sings “I ride or die!”: she practically spits out the “die!” (so butch, girl!) and then the vowel sound tapers off into something more like a canine whimper.
[7]

John M. Cunningham: As long as Nicole doesn’t mind eliding the distinction between cocky rebelliousness and outright evil (perhaps it’s another chart-pop dissertation on the multivalent meanings of “bad”), then I’m surprised that the video doesn’t feature slo-mo footage of Jonah Hill excitedly drawing penises during that synergistic chorus. Song’s got a good bounce, though.
[6]

Martin Skidmore: I like the style here, bouncy and clicky. I think she’s a fairly weak singer, and the verses here are a bit lame, but the chorus is very good, and it’s apparently produced, appropriately, by the Mad Scientist. I really like about half of this, but there are saggy parts.
[7]

Lee Hampton: The chorus is perfect – simultaneously urgent, uncomfortable, and catchy for the first half which leads into the light and bouncy second half. Fuck that madrigal shit – this is how you make a tone poem. One of the worst bridges I’ve heard all year, though.
[5]

Al Shipley: Where “Whatever You Like” took the femme fatale persona Nicole forged with PCD and gave it a slightly darker spin, this goes in the exact opposite direction, which is surprising, given the title. With those bright synths and her gleefully half-assed fake ragamuffin accent, it’s just so weirdly cheerful, and I’m still not entirely sure what to make of it after coming back to it several times.
[6]

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if lee hampton's house is available for burning down, at all?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzingles jukebox.

Jordan Sargent, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i morbidly enjoy the jukebox. god knows why. worth it for tom ewing's one rvw every 6 months at any rate.

mt kafka is so wrong on both a factual (it's "i'll ride all day" cloth ears!) and critical level i can only assume he's one of those kogan bunnies.

also jaymc wtf r u on about

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

The whole chorus is Nicole singing "superbad" over and over.

jaymc, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

something like 8% of kids will get that joke.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

my bad tho!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah I only really decided to start contributing to the Jukebox recently because I'm so routinely horrified by the general scores/reviews that I wanted to at least be a voice of dissent when everybody gets it wrong.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Word to that.

jaymc, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 23:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

loving this.

^@^, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Monday, 12 January 2009 21:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

thank you Tape Store.

this song is definitely mindnumbingly wow.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol you are always so late

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

i love 'supervillain' but i still love 'whatever u like' even more

what was the track w/the hawaiian name like in the end? i never bothered to hear it.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

blindfold me >>>>>>>> whatever u like

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

the hawaiian track is "puakenikeni" or something like that, it sucked

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

actually relistening to it it's not that bad

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

that song is kinda worthless post-calabria 2007 huh?

what was the song she did w/ t.i.? that one was good

big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

that was "whatever u like", and it was just a less good version of kelis' "blindfold me"

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

it had an incredible video though - she was on some ring type shit there. her terrifying stare in the pool scene, the body contortions, the hot coals

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah the video was hot

i brings that levity (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think maybe you all are vastly overrating how good "Whatever You Like" actually is.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

yea i'm still warming up to that a bit.

Surmounter, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

nicole's a slightly colder (or um hotter) fish than yr average

^^this point from way upthread might also be key to the scherzinger's solo failure - in a group this isn't so much subsumed or diluted as transformed into high camp, but solo r&b females don't really seem to have the option to work the superbitch persona. like how girl groups can get away w/misandrist and even misanthropic female anthems, but once you go solo it's all crazy-in-love sexuality or broken-hearted balladry.

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

but yeah the whole PCDs/nicole package is pretty unique. are the PCDs doing badly w/the new album btw, or is that just idolator's wishful thinking?

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

like how girl groups can get away w/misandrist and even misanthropic female anthems, but once you go solo it's all crazy-in-love sexuality or broken-hearted balladry.

i don't know if i buy this 100%

Surmounter, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

the 2nd PCD album is kinda skidding along, not a flop but definitely not as big as the 1st, hasn't gone gold yet. that's only 2 singles in, though, who knows how the next one will do.

LMA.O. Scott (some dude), Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

has anyone else come around to loving the Diddy single she did? i mean i liked it at first but i gradually got really into it.

― LMA.O. Scott (some dude), Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:10 (Yesterday)

ya, total classic - i always forget this was her actual first solo appearance and the whole reason anyone ever got excited. IT'S BAD BOY, BITCH + that cold gleaming beat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trashy "whatever u like".

all of which reminds me!

r|t|c, Friday, 20 February 2009 18:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I could totally see a Nicole version of "Saved The Best For Last". I think I agree with both r|t|c and lex on this one: the Pussycat Dolls foil makes Nicole's extremism seem less extreme, more like costumery. Moreover (and this is probably just making r|t|c's point more obviously) b/c one can't really identify with "the Dolls" as such, it's very effective at promoting the good-song-ness of the songs - while at the same time they're memorable enough and actually-well-known enough that their blankness doesn't have the deflationary drag of anonymizing their songs.

Also I think visually the most important thing about PCD (who are not eye candy really - Nicole's the best looking of the lot) is their capacity to sort of stride/saunter in a line through all of their video clips, a bit like that weird fembot in the Maxi Priest "That Girl" video. It's exactly the right "look" for all the uptempo PCD songs.

Tim F, Friday, 20 February 2009 23:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

I would have thought that the first PCD album, rather like P!nk's I'm Not Dead and the Fergie album, would have gotten a lot of its sales from people going "okay I like at least three of the singles on this."

Tim F, Friday, 20 February 2009 23:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

lol relegated to dancing w/ the stars

waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 05:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

if she somehow loses to buzz aldrin i think she should be deported

waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 05:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

mary j blige ft jah cure - he hit me and it felt like a kiss 2007

― r|t|c, Saturday, 18 August 2007 22:51 (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nahaCpbtIAk

guilty lol

r|t|c, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 09:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

song is still amazing

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 23:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

super villain that is

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 23:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

genuinely love "poison" now

this xfactor performance was legit great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn1tFlWlKcI

smh at everyone saying gaga would've done it better - it wasn't so long ago that gaga was the one biting nicole's entire steez hardcore

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought the song was a bit nothing-y but the sound on X-Factor could be to blame, it's designed to kill excitement. This is no "Super Villain" tho right?

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

finally heard Milian's madscientist-devoid version of 'Super Villain' the other week - meeeh

modrić in paradise (blueski), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah it's no "super villain" but i always preferred "whatever u like" anyway

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

that was spoiled for me by always hearing Status Quo in my head

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

imminent album entirely produced by the-dream and tricky, it seems

i would be hyperventilating a few years ago, now i'm cautiously thinking "well let's see if there's any magic left at all"

lex pretend, Friday, 23 May 2014 08:54 (three years ago) Permalink

I remember watching VMAs and Wayne subbing for T.I. on idoidoidowhateveryoulike before he was "officially" big

v important memory

nova, Friday, 23 May 2014 09:34 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah that was funny just because there was no official studio remix with Wayne and he clearly just wrote lyrics for the occasion of the performance and worked in references to MTV and filling in for T.I.

ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Friday, 23 May 2014 10:38 (three years ago) Permalink

lol yes that was great

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 13:15 (three years ago) Permalink

imminent album entirely produced by the-dream and tricky, it seems

also... what

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 13:15 (three years ago) Permalink

when was the last time dream & tricky even worked together? he's been producing by himself or with los for a few years now it seems

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 13:19 (three years ago) Permalink

every Scherzinger project spends 4-5 years in the vault before hitting the public so it's possible the tracks are that old already

ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Friday, 23 May 2014 14:59 (three years ago) Permalink

if they're releasing an entire album of five year old songs i'm even more dubious

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:03 (three years ago) Permalink

tbh i'd rather an album of five-year-old terius songs that an album of 2014 terius songs

lex pretend, Friday, 23 May 2014 15:08 (three years ago) Permalink

fair

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:09 (three years ago) Permalink

i can't remember who else he's written for recently but everything he worked on on the rihanna and beyone albums was stellar

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:10 (three years ago) Permalink

Nicole Scherzinger is about to storm back with a complete cracker of a single

iggy azalea feature?

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:11 (three years ago) Permalink

i can't really understand doing a top 5 scherzinger songs that doesn't include "super villain" or "whatever u like"

lex pretend, Friday, 23 May 2014 15:16 (three years ago) Permalink

i didn't even realize until looking at wiki just now that Scherzinger had several sizeable solo hits in the UK. that didn't happen at all in the US, never got any real visibility outside of the Pussycat Dolls.

ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:40 (three years ago) Permalink

she replaced cheryl cole as an x factor judge and came across pretty well i think

the uk has really become this dumping ground for american flops to rebuild their career because britishers have no clue. then we give them back to you! hence iggy azalea happening.

lex pretend, Friday, 23 May 2014 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

i just learned that "damaged" was a danity kane song, not a pussycat dolls one

markers, Friday, 23 May 2014 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

https://soundcloud.com/nicolescherzinger/your-love

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 May 2014 09:22 (three years ago) Permalink

I would like a whole album of songs like "I Hate This Part" please.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 May 2014 10:50 (three years ago) Permalink

This new song is amazing.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 29 May 2014 12:42 (three years ago) Permalink

ready for your love
my love
...
your love. ok

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 May 2014 12:55 (three years ago) Permalink

i really like this song, which is surprising

lex pretend, Friday, 30 May 2014 08:49 (three years ago) Permalink

it's not very teriusy at all

lex pretend, Friday, 30 May 2014 08:49 (three years ago) Permalink

but it has all these switch-ups! so much more interesting than the route-one redone bosh nicole did last time

lex pretend, Friday, 30 May 2014 08:50 (three years ago) Permalink

Soundcloud version has gone now, found a youtube cut though - sounds great! Doo doo doo doo....

nxd, Friday, 30 May 2014 08:57 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this song remains amazing. double breakdown!

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:59 (three years ago) Permalink

I hope she's ended up with all the Christina Milian rejected songs from her marriage to Terius

boxedjoy, Thursday, 17 July 2014 20:17 (three years ago) Permalink

man i went into this hoping to like it and it's like a big pile of foam insulation that's been sprayed with glitter

maura, Thursday, 17 July 2014 22:16 (three years ago) Permalink

it's like she finally found the project that perfectly fits her image and skill set that she'd been working towards her entire career up to this point

some dude, Thursday, 17 July 2014 22:44 (three years ago) Permalink

...oh, you guys were talking about a song and not this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jpHOw2Uqno

some dude, Thursday, 17 July 2014 22:44 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

breh

oh my god pic.twitter.com/V63Aqmmmtz

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