MAX MOTHERFUCKING ROACH 1924-2007 RIP

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This is according to Phil Freeman - I haven't found official confirmation yet, but I trust the guy on this of all things.

Anyway, hardly a day goes by I don't listen to the man drum, a fact made easier by the fact that he played on about a godzillion classic records. I think this officially marks the passing of the last of the original bebop greats. Rollins is still out there, but he came in a little later, right?

Now Playing: M'Boom, self titled.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh wow

Tom D., Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

>Rollins is still out there, but he came in a little later, right?

Yeah, but they started partnering up pretty early on - Rollins was the second saxophonist in the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet (replacing Harold Land) starting in '55 or so.

unperson, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

I heard from Roach's publicist, btw.

unperson, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

fuck

deej, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Inevitable but sad. :(

Jordan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Aw man, RIP.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8JQ6y66h7w

Jordan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

i saw him play a solo set on just a ride cymbal at the albert hall in like 86

:(

mark s, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41J3TY1ESJL._AA240_.jpg

one of the best jazz records ever

deej, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Damn. RIP.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

"I think this officially marks the passing of the last of the original bebop greats."

roy haynes would like a word with you...

anyway, rip. max was the coolest.

scott seward, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

shit

ghost rider, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

RIP Mr. Roach.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Another one of the big ones gone ... RIP -- and yeah At Basin Street kills, esp. Roach (though Clifford and Sonny are great as well obviously). He's also great on that Ellington/Mingus/Roach record, Money Jungle. And you know, like 6 billion other classics. Always found that story about him picketing Miles Davis at Carnegie Hall to be an interesting snapshot of the times ...

tylerw, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

fuuuuuck

:(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

"I think this officially marks the passing of the last of the original bebop greats."

sonny rollins? or is he not considered enough of an og

deej, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Apologies to Mr. Haynes, of course.

Yeah, I think of "original" meaning more or less "playing bop in 45." As far as I know, Sonny didn't get on record in that way until 49.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Aw, man.

Those videos are amazing, esp. the ones with just the snare and hat.

Drum in peace.

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is sad; he was my father's favorite jazz drummer and when they were in town he would sit all night and draw the band on paper towels he got from the restroom - (this was in Los Angeles at place called Peacock Alley) and this inspired "Dr. Free-Zee" on Max Roach + Four.

Or so the family story goes; in any case, if you played with Roach then you were all right by him...

RIP, indeed.

2for25, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was fortunate enough to get to shake his hand after seeing him play the Bluenote in 1999. RIP.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blHXOPccRTU

deej, Thursday, 16 August 2007 17:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

NYT obit

RIP

Brad C., Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

major bummerz. "It's Time" & "Freedom Suite Now" are 2 of my fave jazz albums.

jaxon, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmm. I didn't see this before I started my own thread. Guess that one should be locked. Anyway, as I mentioned over there, he's probably one of the only guys who played with both Charlie Parker and Anthony Braxton.

o. nate, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also played w/ Cecil.

:-(

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

he was teh best

cutty, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

god this fucking sucks. r.i.p.

strongohulkington, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Those videos are awesome. RIP

Bill Magill, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

RIP

Sundar, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

rest in peace, max.

so glad i got to see you play at least once.

gr8080, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

If you haven't heard the Cecil/Max 2CD set of duos, go get it. Life-altering.

unperson, Thursday, 16 August 2007 18:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also wanna throw a mention to Speak, Brother, Speak!.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

M'BOOM
M'BOOM
M'BOOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VhQtgSZbsY

Jordan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Love this album.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre400/e496/e49630lph7b.jpg

Jordan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Man, this is the saddest I've been about a musician death in a long time.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

end of an era pretty much.
I loved dude a lot.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

I remember learning a while back that he was the first musician to do 5/4 jazz, but I can't remember what the tune was. Can anyone confirm this?

In any case Max's career was so brilliant that an *accomplishment* of that nature is almost insignificant.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow @ that clip of Max + Fab Five Freddy in the video I just posted

Jordan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

This record is great:

http://abstractlogix.com/xcart/files/master/cd_covers/t_19297.jpg

Hurting 2, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

So is this:

http://www.gutsofdarkness.com/_images/pochettes/769_8259.jpg

Hurting 2, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Totally sad. RIP.

Who was the Spin reporter who Max Roach would have beaten the hell out of - in his 60's - if Fab Five Freddy hadn't intervened?

dad a, Thursday, 16 August 2007 19:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ongoing radio tribute here:

http://www.wkcr.com

I'm guessing they'll keep it going for at least a couple of days

Hurting 2, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

o fuk sorry:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/wkcr/

Hurting 2, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

> Who was the Spin reporter who Max Roach would have beaten the hell out of - in his 60's - if Fab Five Freddy hadn't intervened?

Man! I think that's the first time I heard of him. He was talking about Led Zeppelin samples, right? And Roach was insisting that LZ had no swing.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Probably the greatest jazz drummer ever. RIP

The guy who just votes in polls, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

RIIIIP

gabbneb, Friday, 17 August 2007 01:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

The most distinctive drummer I've ever heard. I was driving along with my wife one day and turned on the radio and somebody was playing a drum solo. I'm not the most detail-oriented jazz d-bag in the world and don't have any records with Roach as leader, but after about 15 seconds I said "that's gotta be Max Roach." Turned out it was him on Marian McPartland's "Piano Jazz". Impressed the hell out of my wife, but really, who else's kit sounds like that?

Rock Hardy, Friday, 17 August 2007 02:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

the titan.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc400/c484/c484223d62d.jpg

^ this

Stormy Davis, Friday, 17 August 2007 06:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

the first jazz album I ever obsessed over:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/419J8CVKG9L._SS500_.jpg

Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 17 August 2007 06:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

WE INSIST this is a major bummer

Great clip of him teaching some v. young kids abt improv from Derek Bailey's C4 documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASRjqjsRuPo

Ward Fowler, Friday, 17 August 2007 06:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Max + Fab Five Freddy

Saw this on TV in Belgium once, and I'd been looking for it ever since. Says so much about the guy that he was down with this stuff.

Sad.

Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Friday, 17 August 2007 09:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Another giant gone. I remember that SPIN article, and Roach regrettably came across as kind of petulant and unreasonable, but I guess that's the prerogative of an authentic legend and genius.

I'll have to give We Insist! a spin tonight. And the Massey Hall quintet.

RIP

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

^love that Clifford Brown + Max Roach album, the one with 'Joy Spring'

Jordan, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Still bumming about this. Couldn't find a big enough image of cover of second volume of Drummin' Men to post. RIP.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 18 August 2007 14:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

nice tributes with mp3s here:
inkhornterm.blogspot.com/2007/08/max-roach-1924-2007-charlie-parker-ko.html
and here:
www.destination-out.com

tylerw, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

RIP. (Believe it or not, despite my general cluelessness about jazz drumming, I've always mostly liked Max Roach's drumming. Definitely need to hear more.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

bunch of content here, too:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12866096
listening to the "piano jazz" show -- highly recommended!

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

*LEGENDARY JAZZ DRUMMER, MAX ROACH, TO BE REMEMBERED
AT RIVERSIDE CHURCH PUBLIC VIEWING AND FUNERAL ON FRIDAY
**Bill Cosby, Ruby Dee, Maya Angelou, Cassandra Wilson, Sonia Sanchez, Amiri
Baraka,
and Billy Taylor Among the Notables Paying Homage to Roach *

*
NEW YORK (August 23, 2007)**—*Bill Cosby, Ruby Dee, Maya Angelou, Cassandra
Wilson, Sonia Sanchez, Amiri Baraka and Billy Taylor will be among the
luminaries paying homage to the late jazz great Max Roach at his funeral on
Friday, August 24 at The Riverside Church in Manhattan. The daring and
innovative drummer, who died of complications of dementia/Alzheimer's
disease on Thursday, August 16 in New York City at the age of 83, will be
celebrated as he lived: in a ceremony awash with jazz, as performed by some
of his most beloved colleagues. Lieutenant Governor David A. Paterson will
speak at the event which will be presided over by The Rev. Dr. James
Alexander Forbes, Jr. Roach will be eulogized by the Rev. Calvin O. Butts
III.

The public viewing will run from 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. Friday and continue
with a public funeral service from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Roach, who is
survived by his five children – Daryl Keith Roach, Maxine Roach, Raoul
Roach, Ayo Roach and Dara Roach – will be buried in a private ceremony at
Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx.

*WHO:* Paying tribute will be: artists *Bill Cosby, Ruby Dee, Maya
Angelou, Sonia Sanchez, Amiri Baraka, Cassandra Wilson, Billy Taylor, Cecil
Bridgewater, Randy Weston, Jimmy Heath, Gary Bartz, Abbey Lincoln, Odean
Pope, Reggie Workman, Billy Harper, Elvira Green; Lt. Governor David A.
Paterson; Jazz at Lincoln Center curator Phil Schaap; and Roach**'s children
Daryl Keith, Maxine, Raoul, Ayo and Dara
The Rev. Dr. James Alexander Forbes, Jr.*, the senior minister emeritus of
The Riverside Church, presiding; and *the Rev. Dr. Calvin O. Butts III*, the
pastor of Abyssinian Baptist Church, eulogist
*WHAT:* Public viewing and public funeral service for the late Max Roach
*WHEN:* *Friday, August 24, 2007
9:00 a.m. **– 10:30 a.m.* Public viewing (Press invited, but no
photographers, videographers or interviews)
* *VIP arrivals at 91 Claremont Avenue
(primarily) and 490 Riverside Drive
* 11:00 a.m. **– 1:00 p.m.* Public funeral

*WHERE:* *The Riverside Church, 490 Riverside Drive/91 Claremont
Avenue, Manhattan

INSTRUCTIONS:
*Press pens will be at both 490 Riverside Drive and 91Claremont Avenue. To
enter and cover funeral, media must check in at 91 Claremont Avenue between
9:00 a.m. and 10:45 a.m. *NO PRESS WILL BE ADMITTED AFTER 10:45 A.M.* Media
should RSVP to cheryl_dun✧✧✧@spr✧✧✧.blackbe✧✧✧.n✧✧ and receive confirmation.
A mult-box will be available; it is suggested that TV/radio bring an extra
long XLR cable.

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Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 24 August 2007 03:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

So upset I can't go. This is about the only thing in the world that could tinge picking up my wife at the airport with disappointment.

Hurting 2, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Went back to this today after overhearing Chad Taylor say it was in his top 10:

http://images.emusic.com/music/images/album/291/117/492/11749270/300x300.jpg

so good

your favorite homoerotic savior imagery (Hurting 2), Sunday, 31 October 2010 23:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

okay listening to M'Boom for the first time.

fucking
wow

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 January 2012 21:52 (six years ago) Permalink

so good

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 13 January 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

it's a really odd, crazy album, i don't know much roach i guess i sort of thought he was a more trad bop dude like art blakey or something

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 January 2012 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean, he is, but he also did records like 'lift every voice & sing' and 'members don't git weary', which are basically gospel + free jazz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uC3_DAysO4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yLFzK4NHiQ

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 13 January 2012 22:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i feel like m'boom is out to prove something about drummers totally being "real" musicians.

the "live at s.o.b.'s" m'boom record is great too.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 13 January 2012 22:11 (six years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Hot damn:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/25/arts/music/library-of-congress-acquires-max-roachs-papers.html

Roach was archivally minded, and, when he died, he left 400 linear feet of his life and actions to be read: scores and lead sheets, photographs, contracts, itineraries, correspondence, reel tapes and cassettes and drafts of an unfinished autobiography, written with the help of Amiri Baraka. On Monday, the Library of Congress will announce that it has acquired the archive from Mr. Roach’s family and that it will be made available to researchers.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 January 2014 06:15 (four years ago) Permalink

whoa, excellent news. always wondered why he hadn't written an autobio, seems like he would have plenty of material.

tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 17:56 (four years ago) Permalink

Hopefully there's enough for some kind of bio to be cobbled together.

I'm on a big Max kick right now; his late 50s pianoless band with Ray Draper and Art Davis was really ahead of its time. Some of those arrangement ideas are completely bizarre, and have yet to really be followed up on.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:07 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't think i've heard those -- what are the albums?

tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Max Roach + 4 At Newport, Deeds, Not Words and Award Winning Drummer. There's a 3CD set called Complete 1958-59 that has all of those plus a couple of others.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:15 (four years ago) Permalink

cool, i think the only one I have from around then is the Jazz in 3/4 Time LP w/ Rollins (which is great).

tylerw, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:16 (four years ago) Permalink

i posted this elsewhere, but his 'Lift Every Voice & Sing' record is super underrated, it's an unstoppable force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uC3_DAysO4

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:16 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

This is my favourite thing right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv2DHC8-bp0&list=PLCsvLEpxA-XlCJ2X7olzfRmyvDwS5cV-N&index=4

xelab, Saturday, 14 February 2015 22:03 (three years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

" Drummer Donald Bailey, in a 2008 interview with writer Don Alberts, said, "And who was [Thelonious] Monk's idol? Hasaan Ibn Ali. Nobody knows that!"

xelab, Thursday, 28 May 2015 23:44 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

TIL that there are actually competing "schools of thought" on Max Roach's true bday, whether it's the 10th or the 8th. Mostly because of jazz weirdo Phil Schaap, it seems.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:08 (six months ago) Permalink

jazz in 3/4 time is such a good record, those drum solos are ripe for a 10 minute jam

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:40 (six months ago) Permalink


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