Jim O'Rourke

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um so i'm listening to "i'm happy and i'm singing and a 1, 2, 3, 4" right now. it still sounds amazing. the last track is kind of a masterpiece imo. no one talks about this guy anymore, probably because he was part of what lots of people found annoying about late-90s chicago indie and wilco and stuff and they'd rather forget about most of it (i don't blame them). then there's gastr del sol, which mostly sounds forced and obvious to me (except a couple of inspired moments on "camofleur") -- faust did it better and thirty years before, you know? i'm not sure i'd like "eureka" as much as i used to if i listened to it again, but oddly enough, "insignificance" has taken over this weird place in my mind and it hits pretty hard sometimes--after bad sex, on airplanes (do not combine those prepositional phrases as it would be misleading). "bad timing" is another favorite of mine. i really haven't heard anything before "terminal pharmacy", which i think is pretty good.

anyway, a poll. i know there's a buttload of run-of-100 L@@K OOP releases and collabs and soundtracks that i'm missing, and i'm including "halfway to a threeway" just for the hell of it. i just want to get a general idea of what everyone else thinks about the guy, an unfashionable 10 years later. classic for turning a lazy indie snob (me) onto whitehouse, van dyke parks, charles ives, luc ferrari very late in the game and it all opened up from there.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Eureka 11
Bad Timing 11
Halfway to a Threeway 9
Insignificance 5
I’m Happy and I’m Singing and a 1, 2, 3, 4 4
Tamper 0
Disengage 0
Scend 0
Remove the Need 0
Use 0
Terminal Pharmacy 0
Happy Days 0
Two Organs0


strgn, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

this guy is unfuckwitable

Wrinklepaws, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link

gets the chicks

strgn, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm including "halfway to a threeway" just for the hell of it

or because it's probably in my top twenty albums of all time

tremendoid, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

make me happy

tremendoid, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Quit apologizing for liking Jim O'Rourke. He's great.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

out of the ones i've heard -- Bad Timing, Eureka, Halfway..., Insignificance, 1234 -- i would give the nod to Eureka for some of the better orchestral flourishes i've heard on record. i could really do without Bad Timing and 1234, but the middle three are essential for me, all strong songwriting etc., but the production on Eureka wins out.

stephen, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

but then I'm one of those people who actually likes all the stuff most people find annoying about 90s Chicago indie.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i vote 'eureka'

sam500, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Man, this is tough.

jaymc, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

tamper's really underrated, imo, but i have to go with a "i'm happy and singing" followed shortly by "halfway to a threeway". listen to roberto cacciapaglia if you're into the "i'm happy record", it's basically the same sound. arturo stalteri for the bad timing record.

o'rourke gets a lot of extra props for having the best name dropping in the biz for sure. so many good recommendations to be had by looking through his interviews.

oo, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 06:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Why won't he make a new album??? =(

Davey D, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and I'm listening to "Sonic Nurse" right now 'cuz of the other thread and it's really just making my evening

Davey D, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I've only got the first five on the list (i.e. the most recent ones), but they're all great. I'm not sure I could pick an out and out favourite, given how different Eureeka, say, is from I'm Happy...

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 08:00 (fourteen years ago) link

'Insignificance' is a solid classic.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 08:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I love how dignified AMG's bio blurb sounds:

American post-classical composer Jim O'Rourke has been a key component in the increasing overlap of the American and European experimental music avant-garde, working in everything from jazz and rock to ambient and electro-acoustic and building many a bridge in between

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow. Spooky etc. I was listening to Insignificance this morning for the first time in ages. I vote Eureka, because of Prelude...

Matthew H, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Eureka for me too. Haven't heard all of these, though I hope to soon...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Can someone give a VERY brief precis (like a sentence) on each of the albums re; what style / genre it is?

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Like...

I’m Happy and I’m Singing and a 1, 2, 3, 4 = improvised melodic electronica
Insignificance = guitars and singing, post-rock-ish but with songs
Halfway to a Threeway = as below, but less ornate
Eureka = strings, songs, lush, odd, pop
Bad Timing = strung-out guitar-led instrumentals

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Francois Couture at AMG describes Scend really well. It's good and it's the only album I've heard on this list! I love Tomorrow Knows Where You Live, his collaboration with Henry Kaiser.

Couture:

First released on CD by Divided in 1992 and reissued on vinyl 11 years later by Three Poplars, Scend is a beautiful piece of field recordings, very different from Jim O'Rourke's other albums (which already display a wide variety of styles and approaches). Field recordings of various nature are combined into a loose narrative. It sounds simple, but giving sense to the construction is where the art resides, and O'Rourke nails it with impressive results. In the first half of the piece you mostly hear water sounds and bowed metal. An accordion lets out a lone winding note, answered by the passing siren of an ambulance. Traffic noise is replaced by falling water drops in the very end of the first part. This assemblage runs smoothly and seamlessly, retaining the feel of field recording throughout (i.e., if electroacoustic transformations are involved, it doesn't show). The first half could be described as cold or devoid of human presence (save for the traffic sounds) compared to the second half. It begins with a playground recording. A passing airplane buries the children's laughter, soon abruptly cut by something (crate? door?) shut close. This sudden move introduces a section of electronic sounds, startling at first considering what came before but interesting and pertinent nonetheless, adding more human presence as the hand of the composer is felt for the first time. Church bells seep in for the finale. Recommended. [The LP edition is pressed on clear vinyl.]

Sundar, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Eureka!

(O'Rourke has an alb. titled Remove The Ned?? Oi shame on you, Jim!)

t**t, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"Why won't he make a new album??? =("

one reason (that he told me a while back) is that he got pretty frustrated with working so hard on the production when most people these days just listen to things in MP3 anyway.

he's currently living in Tokyo and much more focused on breaking into the Japanese film industry (as a filmmaker, not a musician), his Japanese is supposedly superb.

jon abbey, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

and a lot of people watch movies on DVD, or on their iphone/ipod/laptop. i find it hard to believe that he'd give up and blame it on other people's lack of appreciation sincerely. i'm sure he knows he has plenty of adoring fans with proper hi-fi's

oo, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, I'm just passing it on. he is still playing the occasional improv show there, in different combos with Otomo Yoshihide and Kahimi Karie usually (and he's on quite a bit of the recent Otomo soundtrack disc "Prisoner", which I have copies of for sale in the US), but I don't think he's too interested in music anymore, and that's one of the reasons, like I said.

jon abbey, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Bad Timing. 94 the Long Way is one of my favorite pieces of music ever.

The best concert I've ever attended was O'Rourke at the Empty Bottle just before Eureka came out circa 1998. He played one song: "Women of the World." For 50 minutes. Just him, a guitar and a drum machine. The same riff, the same vocal lines, repeated over and over and over. It was the most sublime musical experience I've ever had.

I'm a huge fan and would love for him to continue with music, but I understand that sometimes you have to move on for a while.

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow! I wish I could've been there, that sounds, well, sublime indeed.

willem, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought this thread was gonna descend into p-rock / p-fork snarkiness. Glad it didn't.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

heh i just blubbed abt my love for Bad Timing on a ILE thread, probably still my favourite of his solo albs (esp for the ompa-pa-pa horn explosion at the end)

yeah, halfway to a threeway is prob the best 'song'-based disc he made, but I also have a fondness for Remove the Need (treated guitar) and Happy Days (hurdy gurdy noise drone). also think Jess is being v. harsh on Gastr Del Sol - I don't really see that much resemblance to Faust, more an attempt to marry indie-alt rock songwriting tropes with free improv/post-classical sound-styles/methods - no other rec sounds quite like 'Crookt, Crackt or Fly', imho

the recent Merzbow/Giffoni/O'Rourke noize summit released on No Fun sounds awesome, dude's still got it

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

'Get a Room' manages to be simultaneously one of the funniest and bleakest song I know.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that last half of 'insignificance' is pretty dark and funny.

i was too hard on gastr up there. i still really love 'upgrade and afterlife' and 'camofleur' although it's been forever since i've listened to them, so the faust comparison was probably off the mark. still need to hear crookt, crackt, or fly.

and for the record i am not jess. should have chosen a less confusing login name!

strgn, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

oh im so confused...have you posted under another name on ilx?

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

fauxhemian -> struggin -> strgn. i mostly lurk.

strgn, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I sure do love "Halfway to a Threeway." It even has the best cover art!

Davey D, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"Halfway to a threeway" & "Bad Timing" are total classic, as is the newest collaboration with Merzbow & Carlos Giffoni "Electric Dress" - a live dismantling of analog synths. I still find the sampling of "Expecting to fly" by Neil Young profoundly touching on "Return of Fenn O' Berg".

Operator plug, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, the while it is a group effort, the brise-glace album to the thread. Holy fuck. What an album that one is.... If you haven't heard it, track it down. Pummeling rock band with O'Rourke on guitar, recorded by Albini and then cut up, reedited and mixed down by O'Rourke.

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Bad Timing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else I've heard by him. The guitar-playing is PHENOMENAL, and it doesn't even get boring, even though the songs are all like ten minutes long!

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

There was a period in maybe 2002 or 2003 when I listened to either Bad Timing or Dylan's Nashville Skyline every morning as I roamed about my crap apartment in Eugene making coffee and breakfast and what have you. Whenever it occurs to me now to play Bad Timing in the early AM I get this nice nostalgic "This is gonna be a good day!" feeling, even though those years in Eugene were just like the worst years of my life easy.

So, then, Bad Timing.

Clay, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link

the ompa-pa-pa horn explosion at the end

This always reminds me of John Fahey's Old Fashioned Love record, which also busts out the horns toward the end, though not mid-song like on Bad Timing. I know he was into Fahey, but does anyone know if this thing on Bad Timing was inspired by that thing specifically?

dad a, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

The jazz band absolutely comes in mid-song on the title track of Old Fashioned Love, don't know if Happy Trails is a copy tho. I want to stick up for Gastr del Sol too, probably prefer those records to most of the solo O'Rourke that I've heard.

ogmor, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I always tend to like his duo recordings the best. I've always felt that Jim just shines in a duo setting, maybe better than any other player I can think of. 'Slow Motion' with Müller. 'New Kind of Water' with Null. (I attended that 1992 show at Lounge Ax where the live portion was recorded.) 'Third Straight Day Made Public' with Prevost. that Kaiser disc that Sundar mentioned. even his hated 'Indicate' record with Hampson. These were some of the most thrilling records of the 90s for me. And hey, if Gastr counts as a duo them too for 'Upgrade and Afterlife' alone, which totally ruled.

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread just cost me £7 on Brise-Glace.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah. That is a good disc too.

but of the *solo* stuff that comprises the poll ... i'm actually sorta ignorant of large chunks of it. I heard all the early Extreme label stuff back when it came out, and then 'Bad Timing' (great) and the Tzadik disc, and that's about it. always more to discover with him.

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

oh wait, shit, and 'Happy Days' of course, I have that one. Might even vote for that!

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 06:20 (fourteen years ago) link

brise-glace is fantastic, i still listen to that pretty often (on cd, sold the vinyl like an idiot - apparently skin graft had a warehouse find of the lp a few weeks ago but they're all gone).

hstencil, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

the two Müller/O'Rourke duos are excellent. so are the Prévost, Null, Kaiser. two favorites were O'Rourke/Mats Gustafsson's Xylophonen Virtuosen(2000) - lots of fun, that one - and the O'Rourke/Loren MazzaCane-Connors In Bern on Hat Noir, which gets a bad rap but i like it. Müller/O'Rourke/Voice Crack is another great one. ahead of its time.

Brise-Glace seemed a lot less impressive after hearing the This Heat and Luc Ferrari. still sounds good, just not all that original in its execution.

who hates Indicate?

Terminal Pharmacy is a dud. Jim's big, formal 'i am a composer. take me seriously' statement, and it fell flat. heavyhanded and way too serious. even the experimental guitar albums - Tamper, Remove the Need, Disengage - are leavened with some humor.

what's Use?

how is The Ground Above Below Our Heads? i know Jim all but disowned his recorded debut. but if i really like his concrète pieces, a la Scend, is it worth a listen?

voting for... Bad Timing, i think. yeah.

Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I know he was into Fahey, but does anyone know if this thing on Bad Timing was inspired by that thing specifically?

For some reason, I was under the impression that it was a Charles Ives homage, although I don't remember how or where I read that.

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

jim always referred to b-g as being an homage to this heat, sometimes even as a "cover band," so originality isn't really the point.

hstencil, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Well then I must hear Brise-Glace, and soon.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

who hates Indicate?

Jim, apparently! I recall someone telling me that he "disowned" it.

Brise-Glace definitely a bit of a This Heat tribute. but hey, why not. don't forget to seek out the Brice-Glace track from the AC/DC tribute on Skin Graft! Jim goes wild with a razor blade and reels of AC/DC lps .. awesome.

Jim's big, formal 'i am a composer. take me seriously' statement

I remember browsing the classical section at the Tower in Chicago on Clark in the early 90s, and bumping into copies of Scend that were marked as consignment. I found that kind of funny, the mental image of Jim walking in there clutching a bunch of the CD and sort of going "These belong in your classical section."

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

It's listed now...

Best that you do this for me is also up on Bandcamp.

EvR, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:07 (ten months ago) link

Steamroom 53 up today too. The man doesn't stop!

J. Sam, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 21:03 (ten months ago) link

what a giant. occasionally i'm just really moved by his dedication to exploration, usually when everything else in the world seems shit.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:49 (ten months ago) link

'6 views of a secret' turns into an organ fugue or something. fantastic.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:51 (ten months ago) link

I've never really paid much attention to this guy, which is odd because he ticks all the right boxes, but I'm listening to Steamroom 53 right now and it's incredible.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:31 (nine months ago) link

St 53 is great - one of the most "ambient" of his releases. All the recent Steamrooms are really nice.

jvc, Thursday, 4 February 2021 21:50 (nine months ago) link

Week-End Mixtape:

https://www.mixcloud.com/weekendfest/week-end-mixtape-18-jim-orourke/

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 10:16 (nine months ago) link

That's a fantastic mix, thanks for posting. When I first opened it in Mixcloud the tracklist was available when swiping, but it now seems only available for premium members. The blurb describes the tracks to an extent, it's neither in order nor complete though.

Włodzimierz Kotoński
"Time Captives" by Kingdom Come
Autechre "Sinistrail Sentinel”
Jaap Vink “Stroma”
Sand “Helicopter”
Frank Zappa
Julius Eastman
Xenakis’s saxophone quartet “Xas”
Wim Mertens “Circles”

willem, Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:19 (nine months ago) link

Hmm... yes, I'm sure the tracklist was visible on desktop also, but now it's gone. Should've copypasted it.

jvc, Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:43 (nine months ago) link

apologies for horrible formatting:

#
Time
Song
Artist
01
no time
Antiphonae
Wlodzimierz Kotonski
02
no time
Xas
Iannis Xenakis
03
no time
Listen to the Silence
George Russell
04
no time
Stroma
Jaap Vink
05
no time
Helicopter
Sand
06
no time
Sinistrel Sentinel
Autechre
07
no time
Shun X
Hino Terumasa
08
no time
Wait Until Day
Loren Connors
09
no time
Time Captives
Kingdom Come
10
no time
Low Budget Music for Orchestra
Frank Zappa
11
no time
Joy Boy
Julius Eastman
12
no time
Circles
Wim Mertens

toby, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:07 (nine months ago) link

Thanks toby!

willem, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:26 (nine months ago) link

Seconded, thanks Toby! There really is an addon for everything :)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 11 February 2021 19:50 (nine months ago) link

attention! jim o'rourke is doing an online event monday mar 1!
part of this series, there is a fb event but i didn't want to link to it https://ess.org/option

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 13 February 2021 15:26 (nine months ago) link

Cool, thanks for the heads up!

J. Sam, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:40 (nine months ago) link

Jim had a guest spot at NTS on the 19th, playing an hour of minimal/experimental cuts. The show can be found here (tracklist is included)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 February 2021 10:20 (nine months ago) link

That live convo La Lechera mentioned is happening now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8AUUVq6Wck

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 01:30 (nine months ago) link

Making Eureka, telling Vandermark "Play stupider! Stupider! Saturday Night Live! More like David Sandborn!" And Vandermark says "I can't do it!" And he says, "That's why I want you to do it!"

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:02 (nine months ago) link

That was so great. Very interesting to learn that everything on Loose Fur's Born Again In the USA--except for vocals--was recorded with Shure SM57 mics. Just because he wanted to see how it would sound!

J. Sam, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:32 (nine months ago) link

^ Love the sound of (and songs on!) that second Loose Fur album--sort of as much the unofficial sequel to Insignificance as to LF1 in certain ways.

I also found it very subtly telling how when O'Rourke demurs that he's not the most social person, Vandermark counters with "Well, you are and you aren't"...

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:19 (nine months ago) link

Ha, I've always loved that anecdote about Eureka, which was the subject of a blog post I wrote 18 (!!!) years ago.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:20 (nine months ago) link

Interesting review on All About Jazz (!!) of the Another Timbre-release.

EvR, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:51 (eight months ago) link

I've *finally* got through this interview. It's kind of interesting to see how Jim handles his uh... divorce from the USA (recording engineer, Roeg/Drag City records, Sonic Youth, Wilco, Loose Fur, etc) and never really returned.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:16 (eight months ago) link

My rationale for posting this every so often in a few different places is to increase the chance that I or the world won't forget it exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJWxkYu8WgU

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 20:43 (eight months ago) link

anyone wanna recommend their favorite steamrooms? i have 40, 50, and 53. all great.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Saturday, 20 March 2021 01:11 (eight months ago) link

I've only heard 52 and 53 so far. The latter blew my mind, just a sublime marriage of ambient compositional principles and so-called contemporary classical, whereas the former was decent enough, but a bit nondescript in comparison. If RYM is anything to go by, they seem to highly rate nos. 4, 5, 17, 30, 46, 47 & 50. I wouldn't mind making my way through the whole series in chronological order, but that's quite the commitment.

pomenitul, Saturday, 20 March 2021 01:23 (eight months ago) link

46 is as good as cosmic synth music gets imo

J. Sam, Saturday, 20 March 2021 03:17 (eight months ago) link

nice

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Saturday, 20 March 2021 18:32 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

Jim O'Rourke - Too Compliment lp announcement

EvR, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 07:29 (six months ago) link

pretty epic write-up / review of Too Compliment towards the bottom of this feature. it's the very last review in the series. nice DG interview, too-
https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-065-david-grubbs

Lowell N. Behold'n, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 22:54 (six months ago) link

*epic, or obnoxious, depending on how you're feeling. i can't help but calboti (chuckling a little bit on the inside, man) at the fact that JOR doesn't put this stuff out on cd, forcing me to listen to his output on mp3 (or flac), often on laptop speakers. is vinyl really superior for this type of music? Too Compliment recalls the vibe of some of the more dense, percussive Steamroom releases.. harsh, alien world -sounding, synthesized environments. maybe it's more dynamic and concise. i suppose that i'm in the minority of listeners, desiring a CD release (or any physical format, for that matter) for this stuff

Lowell N. Behold'n, Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:43 (six months ago) link

always think vinyl is pretty dumb for this stuff, too, fwiw

massaman gai (front tea for two), Friday, 28 May 2021 12:22 (six months ago) link

*epic, or obnoxious, depending on how you're feeling. i can't help but calboti (chuckling a little bit on the inside, man) at the fact that JOR doesn't put this stuff out on cd, forcing me to listen to his output on mp3 (or flac), often on laptop speakers. is vinyl really superior for this type of music? Too Compliment recalls the vibe of some of the more dense, percussive Steamroom releases.. harsh, alien world -sounding, synthesized environments. maybe it's more dynamic and concise. i suppose that i'm in the minority of listeners, desiring a CD release (or any physical format, for that matter) for this stuff

Interesting point, I was thinking the same thing. I can't help but thinking vinyl is a very expensive luxury product compared to cd's and downloads. Shipping vinyl is also not cheap, adding to the price of the product. With small quantities being released to cover the production costs, it's no surprise that vinyl releases such as this new O'Rourke album sell out quickly.

EvR, Friday, 28 May 2021 15:59 (six months ago) link

I'm with you, I haven't bought a new O'Rourke record physically since Simple Songs. I continue to be bummed by all of this being vinyl only, but we are in the minority. While some niche labels are sticking with the format, others are sprinting away from it. Numero Group is already done with the format completely and less than half of the 2021 releases Drag City have announced have gotten CD releases. I kinda get it, but then when I see they get cassette releases (ffs!), I really don't get the economics that drive which particular allegedly dead format gets a release and which doesn't.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 May 2021 16:04 (six months ago) link

CDs will be cool again eventually

brimstead, Friday, 28 May 2021 18:21 (six months ago) link

Ironically, I've always felt O'Rourke's production/mix style lent itself more to digital formats? which would seem to go against his own assessment. I own several latter day albums on vinyl but the dynamics of the music ("Shutting Down Here", "The Visitor", "Simple Songs") make it a more pleasurable listen via Tidal. I keep the vinyl out of affection for the format and the artist

CDs will be cool again eventually

― brimstead, Friday, May 28, 2021 7:21 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

thankfully not yet, they're still cheap! used cd shops are a fucking boon right now.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:54 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

Going the Wu Tang, one-of-one edition route

... (Eazy), Friday, 13 August 2021 15:33 (three months ago) link

one million dollars

Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 14 August 2021 03:40 (three months ago) link

$5k pharmabros be perkin'

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 14 August 2021 04:20 (three months ago) link

Jim O’Rourke has something like 50 billion albums out there and 49 billion ninety-hundred ninety-nine million of them are ambient/experimental bollocks. I like acoustic folk guitar stuff like Bad Timing and The Visitor. Does he have anything else like that?

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 16 August 2021 23:11 (three months ago) link

closest is his song albums, eureka, insignificance and simple songs

ufo, Monday, 16 August 2021 23:18 (three months ago) link

I like Eureka a lot, didn’t much care for Insignificance, sounded a bit too rock band-ish for me. Simple Songs I haven’t heard. Will definitely check out. Thanks!

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 16 August 2021 23:45 (three months ago) link

The Halfway to a Threeway EP is my favorite in that folk/acoustic vein. The two Loose Fur albums have some songs (real songs) in that style, too.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 08:15 (three months ago) link

xps as opposed to those of his regular releases which were only bought by one person, but not by design

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 08:44 (three months ago) link

i was listening to either robert wyatt's rock bottom or ruth is stranger than richard the orther day thinking, this is very eureka. i think somewhere ilx jim fans agree that mid-late period Gorky'S zygotic mynci (spanish dance troupe onwards) is very jimo. or i guess you could try those ralph towner / john abercrombie duo discs or abercrombie's "characters"
this: https://laloi.bandcamp.com/album/feed-a-pigeon-breed-a-rat or other zach phillips has a comparable tangled proggy bacharach vibe.

massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 09:23 (three months ago) link

oh yeah the first loose fur album is one of the best things both o'rourke & tweedy have done

ufo, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 09:50 (three months ago) link

xp thanks for mentioning that Zach Phillips album; I had been meaning to check it out. "Tangled proggy Bacharach vibe" is right, and I love the avant radio show concept. So good

J. Sam, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:57 (three months ago) link

I have spent most of today listening to Bad Timing, Halfway to Threeway and Eureka. He is ridiculously good. I swear 'The Workplace' is like walking through the world, only with six inches of air in the soles of one's shoes.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 21:07 (three months ago) link


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